[Warning: NSFW]
The full Eminem dragging of Trump on @BET: “We love our military and we love our country but we hate Trump.” pic.twitter.com/2hk34KAfcS
— Keith Boykin (@keithboykin) October 11, 2017
To be honest, I assume Fox News doesn’t cover the BET Awards, and so Trump won’t hear about Eminem, at least in time for his morning tweet-tantrum. But the Media Village Idiot courtiers (helloooo, Mr. Cillizza) who dance attendance on Lord Smallgloves have heard, and it’s gonna make them that little bit more uncertain about him. Kidz, these days! Who knows when they’ll turn on you? Anybody got Rex Tillerson’s booker’s number?…
Monique Judge, at the Grapevine:
… On Tuesday night’s presentation of the BET Hip Hop Awards, a pre-recorded video from Oct. 6 showed Em flowing for four-and-a-half minutes on the dangers of the Trump presidency made everyone stand at attention…
Em threw the gauntlet down and told everyone to put their fists in the air and keep them there. He called out the shenanigans of Trump warring with the NFL over player protests. He told everyone that Trump is going to “lead us into a nuclear holocaust” and then “fly around in his plane until the bombs stop.”
Accurate.
“This is his form of distraction. Plus he gets an enormous reaction, when he attacks the NFL, so we focus on that, instead of talking Puerto Rico and gun reform for Nevada. All these horrible tragedies, and he’s bored and would rather cause a Twitter storm with the Packers,” Em seamlessly flowed acapella.
He called your president everything but a child of God, and it was magnificent…
Apart from being grateful that The Youngs are willing to take some of the weight, what’s on the agenda for the day?
Also I see some folks seemingly angry at the attention this freestyle is getting saying it’s only cuz Eminem is white.
THATS EXACTLY WHY.
— Elon James White (@elonjames) October 11, 2017
My cousins went to the same HS as Eminem, my grandparents lived in the same working class neighborhood.
Kid Rock grew up in a mansion.
— Dana Houle (@DanaHoule) October 11, 2017
(For those who don’t pay even a little attention to Michigan politics, there was some silly-season enthusiasm about car-dealer’s kid Robert ‘Kid Rock’ Richie running for Debbie Stabenow’s seat, before the enthusiasts realized it was all a publicity stunt for RR’s arena tour. Kid Rock will challenge Stabenow right after Curt Shilling successfully challenges Elizabeth Warren, and that will happen on the twelfth of Never.)
OzarkHillbilly
He nailed it.
lollipopguild
So when donnie 2 scoops approval rating is at 0% will the media stop fluffing him? Asking for a friend.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@lollipopguild: Tell your friend: yes, of course they’re still fluff him. That’s what fluffers do.
p.a.
@lollipopguild: the huey long/edwin edwards quote is applicable here: the fluffers may stop fluffing if the pResident is caught “in bed with a live boy or a dead girl”. But not a live, urinating/urine soaked girl.
Baud
I’m not Eminem’s biggest fan, but props where it’s due. At the end, he told his Trump supporting fans to fuck off. Good stuff.
Baud
@lollipopguild:
“He has no where to go but up.” — Chuck Todd
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Baud: “To the moon, Alice!”
Amir Khalid
They dropped audio on some of the choicest bits. Is there an uncensored version? I want to appreciate this in all its righteous anger.
eclare
Wow, just wow…
Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism
@Amir Khalid: I found lyrics, but no uncensored video yet. That’ll be hard to catch between being posted and being taken down by BET.
rikyrah
Good Morning, Everyone ???
Baud
@rikyrah: Good morning.
Baud
@Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism: I didn’t realize it was taken down. Good. That’ll encourage more people to watch it.
JGabriel
Anne Laurie @ Top:
Erm, The Slim Shady LP came out waaay back in the last millennia, in 1999. I think Eminem’s like 44 or 45 now. Not really a young’un anymore. Mathers is older now than Kennedy was when he became president.
JGabriel
@lollipopguild:
Of course not. A man needs fluffing when he’s down.
Baud
@JGabriel: It’s all relative, but, yeah, he’s no spring chicken.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@JGabriel: I see what you did there.
Baud
That feeling when you forget to change the channel after watching Rachel and Morning Joe is on when you turn on your TV the next day.
Ugh.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Baud: I solved that problem, I don’t get MSNBC anymore.
Kay
Early vote starts today in Ohio. Early vote is very popular with the public so Democrats should expand it to all 50 states.
People like it! It’s convenient. It makes a huge amount of sense too, because it lessens the crush on election day and (probably) reduces errors by poll workers. If you think about a poll workers day, the most exacting part is at the end of a 12 hour shift, when they reconcile the poll book with the ballots, etc. They’re tired. It’s the worst time to do detail work. It should be 2 shifts, w/ 2nd shift starting at 5 PM. More people would do it if it wasn’t such a long day.
Let’s turn voting back into a nice, customer-oriented service rather than a combative, hostile police action where we’re accusing everyone of committing a felony. Don’t let the Right ruin voting, like they ruin everything else. It’s a state recording process. It doesn’t have to be poisoned with conspiracy theories and nastiness and hostility. None of that is to benefit VOTERS- it’s to benefit incumbent Republicans. Voters are the point, not Kris Kobach or Donald Trump or multimillion dollar media celebrities on FOX. Take it back. Re-establish the civic norm.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Kay: How about vote by mail, I know the folk in states that do it that way are really happy with it. Guarantees a paper ballot and no problems with polls and machines.
OzarkHillbilly
@JGabriel: 6 more days till 45 for him.
Baud
@Kay:
WaPo
Amir Khalid
@Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism:
Many thanks.
Baud
@Kay:
For what?
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
So yesterday morning, mom got terminated from her job. The charity she’s been working for over the past 18 years has gone from being an organization that was friendly, mission focused and a place with great positive employment energy (even if not particularly well paid in lower management and among the grunts) to one which is a way-stop for LinkedIn “management category aggregators” that bounce from company to company every two years. This has been about a 3 year process, and it brings everything you’d expect – lots of corporate buzzwords while the paradigms are shifted and synergies implementalized. From where I sit, the door got opened by a couple of hires from the ranks of a local RWNJ megachurch/business networking cult, and those hires started filling the ranks with likeminded business school climbers with GREAT and fulsome LinkedIn presences.
This group seems to be shoving out everyone over 40 and everyone with over 10 years’ dedication to the organization.
For mom, everything went way downhill last winter, when she realized that a set of boxes in an open break room were full of employee W2s from two years before. She reported it to the chief accounting officer (there had been a data breach the year before, and the organization paid for a year of credit monitoring for 400 employees) and was unofficially reprimanded for not slamming down the lid on the box the instant she realized what they were. Interestingly, it was made clear to her that this matter was closed and needed to remain confidential between her, the comptroller and two HR reps.
As I had been saying to mom in the past, she needed take my offer to contact the SEIU about organizing a union at the workplace, and that even if an effort were unsuccessful, the notion that employees were unhappy enough to seek a CBA and union representation would shock the board into reviewing the way that the charity is being managed. Being an RWNJ, though, she cowers and cringes before authority and is all “OMFG – unions. LIBRULS!!!”
The termination was handled in as hamhanded a fashion as possible. Took her into a windowless utility room with bare walls – think a Lubyanka execution room with a couple of mismatched chairs and stained rattan table. Told her that they were consolidating the position under a recent LinkedIn management category aggregator hire, and eliminating her job. Read a vague letter, appreciated nothing, said it was “just business” and said she couldn’t go collect her stuff in her workspace. Said she could let them know by Friday if she wanted to apply for any other openings in the organization (she says there aren’t any). Argued with her over taking her personal briefcase (she keeps bills, an iPad and a couple of checkbooks in it), and made some vague assurance about her personal wall hangings, desk knickknacks and that sort of thing coming to her next week. Inasmuch as dad dropped her off yesterday, there was that bit of awkwardness, too. Didn’t get to say goodbye to the people she worked with in the workplace and got hustled out the side door like a thief.
Anyhow, at 73, she found the process humiliating and demeaning. I’d hope that she learns something about always deferring to white authority, but I doubt it.
Kay
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
I like vote by mail a lot but I’m saying work within the existing system to turn voting back into what it was 20 years ago, instead of this fucking hostile fever swamp conservatives have cynically created. They muddle it all up because they want to set the stage for suspicion and speculation- turn it into yet another unknowable where everyone can just talk out their ass and make shit up. It’s a recording process. It can be done well or poorly. People like Kobach and Trump want you to believe it’s complicated and corrupted with malicious bad actors – oppositional- “good” people versus “bad” people. It was NEVER like this before. They are ruining it. Kobach’s wide-eyed insistence that no one knows what goes on in polling places is just nonsense. He made that up.
Baud
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: I’m sorry, but not sorry.
Sorry.
Kay
@Baud:
For local issues and primaries and statewide ballot measures. There’s a crackpot “victims rights” initiative- named after a person- WARNING- probably bad law! It essentially turns the victim of a crime into a party which is an absolutely horrible idea.
People already believe (wrongly) that criminal matters are victim versus perpetrator, because they don’t understand anything about their own system- this would make that TRUE. I don’t know what’s wrong with people- they have bad ideas.
Baud
@Kay: Yeah, those things are usually no good.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Kay: Agreed, it should be simple because it is a simple thing. I go to the polling place with my sample ballot and sign the sheet and get a ballot. No fuss. We’re starting to move to more of a vote by mail system here in CA.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Baud: Make up your damned mind. //
Ohio Mom
@Kay: There is also that confusing prescription drug issue on the Ohio ballot, which I still don’t fully understand.
BlueDWarrior
@JGabriel: Yeah that’s the scary thing. Eminem is now a grizzled ol’ veteran of the rap game.
Christ it’s almost 20 years since the Slim Shady LP, where the fuck has the time gone?
gene108
Somewhat related to yesterday’s thread on Weinstein and how Republicans are spinning it as to why Democrats are enablers.
Listened to part of the NJ governor’s debate last night. The Republican candidate, current Lt. Gov. Kim Guadagno went on a screed about Weinstein and how Democratic candidate Phil Murphy accepted the dirty money and what is he going to be about it.
Phil’s response “I have no idea what you are talking about” and that killed all of Kim’s mojo on that point dead.
Baud
@gene108: Excellent.
debbie
Five tweets before 7am. Good. I hope this is eating him up.
Kay
In ’16 I was invited to be the Democrat on a voting process panel at the high school. I know the Republican who was invited quite well and we agreed ahead of time (by emails) that we would stick to facts on voting and not venture into voter fraud accusations, because that enrages me and I won’t validate it by arguing with her about this (crackpot) theory.
That’s not an even match because she’s speculating and I’m arguing what they’ve PROVEN, which is “nothing”. I won’t do it.
So we get there and she breaks the rule and I get het up and she tells the students I’m “passionate” in this patronizing way.
She’s running in the GOP primary for mayor and she asked me to take her yard sign because she’s (allegedly) a moderate so I’m validation of her bipartisan appeal and I told her “no” and I told her why- because she broke her promise. It felt good to be able to (politely) tell the truth. I was proud of myself for keeping my temper.
satby
@rikyrah: Good morning ?
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: that’s tough for your mom, sorry. Maybe at 73 she’s ready to retire and smell some roses, once she’s over the shock.
Baud
@Kay: Good.
Betty Cracker
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: Poor thing. It’s gotta be tough to get the heave-ho like that after such a long time.
@Kay: The War on Voters.
bystander
So if BET transmits the uncensored version, can Trump sic the FCC Decency Squad on them?
OzarkHillbilly
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: Sorry to hear that. It sucks the way they do things these days.
aimai
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: So sorry for your mom. How demeaning and destabilizing for her. Poor thing–its hard to take a cynical, oppositional, stance and still do any kind of work with equanimity. Sometimes people just have to believe the lies they are told to get through the day. I’m sorry that her fictious world turned out to be as nasty as you were predicting.
magurakurin
@?BillinGlendaleCA: vote by mail should be Tom Perez’s number one goal at the DNC. it’s the solution. instead he’s fucking around with those backstabbers Konst and Zogby.
vote by mail nation wide should be coming out of every Democrats mouth every time they talk about anything.
Baud
@bystander: No. BET is a cable channel.
Highway Rob
@Baud:
The Hard Rhymer, the Rhyme Animal, Chuck T? (This is what happens when I mix Eminem and Emessem before coffee.)
debbie
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes:
I’m smelling discrimination in there somewhere, but at least she got to get her personal stuff out of there.
MomSense
That was fucking fantastic, Eminem. He did a great anti-Bush anti Iraq war video BITD.
Baud
@magurakurin: Who?
debbie
@Ohio Mom:
Also Marsey’s Law, which would give domestic violence victims the same kind of rights that perpetrators “enjoy.”
bystander
“Historical/deplorable” and the fecal imagery…and so early in the morning.
JPL
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: What bastards.
Amir Khalid
Aunty Beeb’s Entertainment & Arts page has a story savouring Eminem’s best lines from this freestyle. If this gets mainstream media coverage in the US, then … well, His Orangeness will have one more thing to rage-Tweet about.
magurakurin
@Baud: I like the cut of your jib, son. 2020 will be your time. President Baud…
debbie
@Amir Khalid:
You’ll need to be patient. I’m not sure even Stephen Miller wants to tell him about this. If there’s any justice in this world, Barron will have seen it and will tell his dad all about it.
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
@Baud:
LOL
Yeah, I know.
magurakurin
@JPL: it could be a blessing. I got fired from my last job and now I work for myself and it’s great. She may realize they did her a favor. they are still scum to let someone go like that.
Kay
@Betty Cracker:
I’m changing tactics for ’20. If they get to claim massive voter fraud I get to claim Russia changed vote totals. They don’t get special “reality” rules anymore where I have to stick to it and they can just speculate out their ass.
That’s a fair fight. Every voter fraud theory will be met with a Russia changed vote totals theory. One is just as credible as the other. I can read the internet too.
rikyrah
@Kay:
Preach it, Kay
Baud
@Kay: Do it! Call them comrades.
magurakurin
of course your conspiracy theory has the virtue of being true. so, there’s that.
Baud
@magurakurin:
Baud! 2020!: I don’t know these people!
rikyrah
@Kay:
I honestly miss your front page posts. Nobody tackles this issue like you do.
rikyrah
@gene108: .
??
Baud
@rikyrah: I blame Kay’s retirement for Trump’s election.
rikyrah
@Kay:
You are a better person than me, Kay.
Kay
@Baud:
Ugh. She did the “lawyer” thing. “Her with her fancy lawyer talk – I’m just being commonsensical!” SUCH a fraud. She was at one time a secretary in the prosecutor’s office and she was extremely savvy at office politics. Her whole country bumpkin persona is just bullshit.
We have a “weak mayor” system- all the power resides with the Board of Public Affairs- they spend the money, so it doesn’t matter if she wins.
rikyrah
@Kay:
Kick azz, Kay???
Dorothy A. Winsor (formerly Iowa Old Lady)
Maybe a reporter can ask Sarah Huckabee Sanders if Eminem should resign.
OzarkHillbilly
@Kay: This idea, I like.
Baud
@Kay:
“I commend you on your English, comrade.”
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
@debbie:
She did stand her ground on her personal briefcase – said she wasn’t going anywhere without it. The art and tchotchkes are still in the air, and became part of a pointed and tense set of exchanges between myself and senior management yesterday afternoon.
I like to say, I wiped some smug off of several faces. They invoked their own counsel, who is very sad that their actions are perceived to be as thoughtless and cruel as I described.
I’m evaluating the severance offer with a guy in my shop who does wrongful termination and retaliatory discharge today. They’re offering 34 weeks pay at the moment, while I’d like to make it at least two years while keeping her on the books for insurance purposes.
Amir Khalid
@gene108:
Harvey Weinstein’s political contributions are now considered dirty money? He’s a very nasty man, true; but he got his fortune honestly by making hit movies. And no one has accused him of having Democratic politicians in his pocket. Unlike a number of rich Republicans many of us here could name.
Kay
@rikyrah:
We have a retired 4th grade teacher running for school board. She’s great. 3 of my 4 had her. She did the best thing- she would have the kids come to parent teacher because she doesn’t say anything about them behind their back. I loved that, that she treated them like serious people, with such respect. THEY had this kind of professional relationship with her that ran on trust. It was sort of humbling, that they have this whole life outside my sphere.
debbie
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes:
Assholes will be assholes. Hope you get that better deal for her.
debbie
@Amir Khalid:
No nastier than Roger Ailes’s largess.
Baud
@Amir Khalid: It’s fake outrage when it comes to the Democrats. Just like the War on Hillary.
OzarkHillbilly
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: Screw them like a cork.
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
@OzarkHillbilly:
Somebody started presenting this method at business schools about 30 years ago. “Avoid workplace drama” became the mantra, but it ignores what the effect is on the morale and loyalty of employees which remain, not to mention the humiliation for the employee who is excessed out the door through no fault of their own.
My favorite application of this principle of business management came about during the early 90s, after Pepsi acquired KFC. KFC HQ had an administrative staff with great longevity, and they knew their jobs well. These are 20 year plus people, with obligations, kids in college, budgets to match pay. Pepsi had been in place for about a year and had been engaging consultants to review methods for some months in “Operation Renew”, which was to improve workflow and to better integrate with Pepsi. On December 21, they schedule a slew of sudden meetings under a lockdown with a contracted security crew, and terminated 25% of the administrative staff in a “streamlining” process. People were sobbing in the hallways and it was devastating for everybody. It completely shattered company loyalty.
Interestingly, they wound up needing to contract in about half of the people fired, at an expense greater than what they were ostensibly saving on compensation.
Another Scott
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes:
Funny how that works. :-/ I sometimes wonder if that’s part of the grift too – the managers somehow directly benefit from the contracts even though it costs the company more…
It’s terrible how they treated your mom. I’m glad you’re fighting for her, and have some ability to force them to make things better. Actions like these will never stop unless there is sufficient push-back. Thanks for pushing!
Good luck.
Cheers,
Scott.
Kay
So why should anyone make a deal with the United States? We don’t honor the terms. Any random moron can get elected and renege on anything and the moron’s employee is more than happy to break our word for us. We’re third rate political hacks who can’t be trusted.
bystander
@Baud: That’s what I thought. Don’t tell twitler. I’d rather watch him make another empty threat at a celebrity.
OzarkHillbilly
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: I absolutely loathe those people.
Kay
These supposedly smart people are having a LOT of trouble with this Weinstein thing. Romney was “accused” because of his stated policy positions and his ability to put those into law. No one “accused” him of sexually assaulting women.
They make category errors. The confusion seems to start with making dumb lists that include two Presidents and a private sector person and pretending they are the same. The Weinstein thing was such an unequivocally good thing for media- an investigation that actually produced results -and they STILL managed to ruin it with their idiotic comparisons and “this is JUST LIKE this” 7th grade thought process. Get better. Try harder.
Betty Cracker
@Amir Khalid: I’m on a lonely one-woman Twitter crusade to count the days since BuzzFeed revealed Trump’s former chief strategist Steve Bannon and top donors Robert and Rebekah Mercer bankrolled Nazi outreach and demand that the GOP repudiate them and return donations.
NotMax
FYI.
satby
@OzarkHillbilly: Me too! And I’ve had to witness the same “streamlining” both as a victim or other times as a survivor. Loyalty to a company used to be a thing, back when companies also used to treat their people better. Now it’s a suckers game.
A Ghost To Most
Fuck Kid Rock. Don’t know much about Eminem, but he sounds like he is on our side.
raven
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: About 5 years ago our “leadership” taught it was a good idea to call a number of people in one-at-a-time, tell them there were gone and then have an armed guard walk them to their desk and to the door. They then emailed the rest of the staff and told people that there termination had nothing to do with their performance and to “treat them wth respect”! Many of them were hired back but I don’t think anyone ever got over it.
Lapassionara
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: Glad to hear they offered her a severance package, at least, but what a personal humiliation.
I was driving all yesterday, so heard some of NPR’s talk programs. Did anyone else hear Robert Kuttner talk about his interview with Bannon? Someone called in with “this is fascism, and why and Kuttner said something like “our democracy is resilient” without mentioning Russia.
And the gremlins won’t let me edit to close the quote or to add my “wth” response.
OzarkHillbilly
@NotMax: See what happens when you arrest white people?
ETA should say “sympathetic looking white people”
Amir Khalid
@raven:
These people have a strange idea of what constitutes respect, don’t they?
Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism
So the Raleigh NC municipal election was yesterday. Granted that we’re a blue-violet island, but I’m cautiously optimistic. We’re probably looking at three runoffs next month.
The incumbent mayor is Unaffiliated and had never faced a serious challenge before this year. (Margins of victory of 31, 51, and 50.) Local Dems decided to make a real try and are close enough to force a runoff. U 48, D 37, R 15
A four-term Unaffiliated incumbent on the city council with ties to the city’s developers is within runoff distance of his Dem challenger, who (like the Dem mayoral candidate) put affordable housing front and center in her campaign. The challenger is 10 votes shy of 50% in a three-way race according to this morning’s unofficial numbers.
And an open at-large seat will almost certainly have a runoff between a long-time environmental activist (D, 23%) and a trial lawyer (R, 17%). This was a seven-way race for two at-large seats; the other seat was won outright by the incumbent with 28%.
Matt McIrvin
@JGabriel: Yes, and he was very publicly knocking George Dubya during the 2004 campaign too. It seemed like a big change from some of the questionable shit he was saying in his early superstar years–I think he just matured.
raven
@Amir Khalid: Apparently that is SOP for technology organizations.
Another Scott
Relatedly, ICYMI – BBC:
:-(
(Weinstein wasn’t the attacker in Crews’ case.)
Rmoney was right about being upset with people who feel Entitled!, but he was missing the log in his fellow 0.01%ers eyes…
Good for President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho for speaking up.
Cheers,
Scott.
OzarkHillbilly
@satby: As a union carpenter I only ran into that kind of “synergistic” crap once, got into an argument with the management tool before I’d even lifted my hammer. (“We’re all family here.” “Uh, I already have a family and you aren’t in it.”) Made me want to puke. My wife on the other hand has to deal with that crap every day and it is thoroughly demoralizing. Been with her company for 22 years and goes into work half expecting every day to be her last.
ETA meant to say that union carpenters got “streamlined” regularly, part of the deal. Easy to hire, easy to lay off, but well compensated while working,
Steeplejack (phone)
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes:
I love the fact that they probably didn’t realize that Mom had a mean SOB lawyer for a son. Have fun mauling them.
low-tech cyclist
WaPo op-ed: “Ignore the late-night hosts: The left does not care more than the right” (Hell if I’m gonna link to it.)
As I said there under another handle, you can’t measure caring. But you can measure actions.
The left fought hard to get health insurance for tens of millions of people, and showed up repeatedly this year to keep it from being taken away. (Looks like we’re not done yet, but I digress.)
And who was trying to take it away? The right.
Seems pretty obvious who cares more.
msdc
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: Sounds like they fucked with the wrong Monte Cristo. I love it. Give ’em hell.
NotMax
Now that’s a chilling statistic (emphasis added).
Enhanced Voting Techniques
That’s the point with these people; Eminem doesn’t know the place The Free Market Baby Jesus assigned him. Instead like Bill Clinton, Barrack Obama, blacks and women Eminem cheats by being more competent than his betters.
NorthLeft12
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: I am very sorry to hear how your Mom was treated. I have been ragging on HR people and managers about this for years. I tell them it is unprofessional, humiliating, cruel, and demoralizing to their co-workers. I get the usual defences for the practice, which are quite frankly ridiculous for about 98% of employees. If they were any kind of managers they would have a pretty good idea which employees might be a problem, but alas, they don’t.
Also, fuck LinkedIn. I got called an unemployed mooch on FB because I supported raising of the minimum wage in Canada, and some dim bulb looked up my Linkedin profile and since it is blank, she assumed I did not have a job. Well done Sherlock, or Miss Marple if you will.
NotMax
Hm. Site has reverted from having a thin solid line separating comments back to the roll of toilet paper look with dashed lines.
Kathleen
@Kay: What’s your take on Issue 2? I can’t sort through it to save my life.”Both Sides”seem fishy to me.
In Cincinnati we are voting for Mayor and City Council also.
Kathleen
@Ohio Mom: Yes. I just queried Kay in above comment before reading thread.Glad I’m not the only one confused. I think that’s the intent.
rikyrah
Megyn Kelly is Destroying NBC’s Morning Ratings
http://pagesix.com/2017/10/10/megyn-kelly-is-destroying-nbcs-morning-ratings/
BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA H HA HA HA HA HA
Kathleen
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: Interesting insight into the state of non profits. Since I’m still working at age 68 and plan to continue until Rethugs murder me because they’ve robbed me of my Social Security and officially designated as a “Moocher”, I can empathize.
Steeplejack (phone)
@NotMax:
It has been like that (for me, at least) for a month or so, since the last round of non-trivial changes.
Also, we’re back to socialist and specialist being naughty words. Progress! Two steps forward, one step back.
rikyrah
Eminem unleashes on Trump: The 11 fiercest lines
By Deena Zaru, CNN
Updated 6:05 AM ET, Wed October 11, 2017
CNN)In what is perhaps the fiercest and the most exhaustive attack against Donald Trump in hip-hop, Eminem “came to stomp” Tuesday night, calling the President everything from “Donald the b—-” to a “racist grandpa” in an explosive 4.5-minute freestyle rap.
The Detroit rapper challenged his fans at the ET Hip Hop Awards to “decide who you like more” — Eminem or Trump. He has slammed the President previously in the nine-minute 2016 freestyle “Campaign Speech” and in Big Sean’s “No Favors.”
“The Storm” (Freestyle) https://t.co/QLPjtgS5n3
— Marshall Mathers (@Eminem) October 11, 2017
“And any fan of mine who’s a supporter of his, I’m drawing in the sand a line, you’re either for or against, and if you can’t decide who you like more and you’re split on who you should stand beside, I’ll do it for it for you with this. F— you,” he said toward the end, raising his middle finger.
A request to the White House for comment was not immediately returned.
The latest freestyle, which Eminem revealed on Twitter is called “The Storm,” comes as anticipation for Eminem’s eighth studio release builds. The rapper decried Trump’s comments following the white supremacist rally in Charlottesville, questioned the President’s own patriotism following his attacks on athletes and Sen. John McCain, and in closing, issued a passionate tribute to Colin Kaepernick.
Here are the 11 most explosive lines from his newest anti-Trump freestyle in the order that they appear:
1) ‘A kamikaze that will probably cause a nuclear holocaust’
2) ‘Trump, when it comes to giving a s— you’re stingy as I am’
3) ‘Racism’s the only thing he’s Fantastic 4 cause that’s how he gets his rock off, he’s orange’
4) ‘Cause he cannot withstand the fact we’re not afraid of Trump’
5) ‘All these horrible tragedies and he’s bored and would rather cause a Twitter storm’
6) ‘Who’s going to pay for his extravagant trips’
7) ‘Same shit that he tormented Hillary for and he slandered then does it more’
8) ‘This racist 94-year old grandpa’
9) ‘To him, you’re zero cause he don’t like his war heroes captured’
10) ‘F— that, this is for Colin, ball up a fist and keep that s— balled like Donald the b—-‘
11) ‘The rest of America stand up. We love our military and we love our country but we f—— hate Trump’
NorthLeft12
@NotMax:Well, that is some good news. Although the more cynical among us will note that the actions were taken for the mistreatment of a white female nurse.
Leto
@Kay:
You’re expecting the moon from people who can barely wipe the drool from their faces. It’s the continuing saga of BOTHSIDERISM. Honestly, that’ll be the header on history’s tombstone of the 1980’s-20XX: “BOTH SIDES!” while right below will be “BUT HER EMAILS!”
Kathleen
@Dorothy A. Winsor (formerly Iowa Old Lady): Hillary had better be ready with a condemnation.
rikyrah
Richard Branson: Michelle Obama told me ‘we’re free’ after leaving White House
BY JACQUELINE THOMSEN – 10/10/17 09:45 PM EDT
Entrepreneur Richard Branson said Michelle Obama told him “We’re free” after leaving the White House in January.
Branson wrote in his new book, “Finding My Virginity”, that the former first lady said she felt liberated after the couple left the White House in January, according to passages of the book provided by People Magazine. The Obamas spent a 10 day-long vacation with Branson in the British Virgin Islands in January.
“It’s so nice to have my name back after eight years,” she told Branson, according to the book.
The British entrepreneur wrote that the Obamas insisted on staff at the island calling them by their first names and hosted a party for the employees at the end of their trip.
Michelle Obama told Branson that it was the first time she was sad to end a vacation and asked, “‘Can we just bottle this up and keep this vibe?’” Branson wrote.
rikyrah
Krugman Says Potential Fed Chair Warsh Is ‘Wrong About Everything’
By Agnel Philip
October 10, 2017, 4:17 PM CDT
Nobel Prize-winning economist Paul Krugman didn’t mince words when asked about former Federal Reserve Governor Kevin Warsh’s candidacy to run the institution: “He’s been wrong about everything,” from inflation to fiscal policy, Krugman told Bloomberg Television in an interview Tuesday.
But that may not stop President Donald Trump from nominating Warsh, 47, for Fed chair, because he has solid family connections and a Republican pedigree, according to Krugman, a consistent critic of the GOP. Warsh is married to Jane Lauder, daughter of Trump friend Ronald Lauder.
“It’s kind of almost awesome. You could almost make money by taking whatever he thinks is going to happen and betting the other way,” according to Krugman. A spokesman at the Hoover Institution, where Warsh is now a fellow, did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
hw3
Is it an act of resistance to block @RealDonaldTrump on Twitter? Not that I follow the fool, but I imagine if people with the Twitters just up an block him, it might be the only way to get the message through that he is not universally loved.
NotMax
@rikyrah
FOX chyron in 3… 2… 1…
First thing Obamas claim after fleeing country: “We’re free!”
El Caganer
@Amir Khalid: Back when the Enron scandal broke, there was a lot of hand-wringing in the Houston nonprofit community, as Enron had been a major benefactor (with the money it stole) for a wide variety of organizations. I read an article (IIRC, in the Chronicle of Philanthropy) where a number of people were asked their view on what nonprofits should do with funds they receive from corrupt people or organizations. Best answer was from a college professor: “The only problem with tainted money is there tain’t enough of it.”
clay
@rikyrah:
I do like this one. I imagine that if it wasn’t freestyle — if Em had time to flesh out the metaphor — he would’ve gone on an extended run in this direction: calling Trump a Thing ’cause he’s been grim, noting that Ivanka’s just an Invisible Girl, noting the Storm (Front) with the Humans carrying Torches…
Leto
@rikyrah: I still miss Melissa Perry Harris and want Joy Reid to have more than just a weekend show/fill-in for X role. Dear NBC: quit hiring Fox rejects, and stop firing important voices. Stupid jackwagons!
Kay
@Leto:
It’s compare/contrast. It’s fine but it can’t be the only tool in the toolbox! They’re jamming these things into boxes where they don’t fit and it’s just making everyone dumber.
They don’t have to do it. Maybe it’s “like” Romney or maybe it’s not. Just use some other method of analyzing something.
I’m irritated by it. I hear “this is like…” and I think “No. Stop. No categories” It’s a crutch.
bystander
So is Putin behind this? Why would anyone do his? Clicks?
gvg
My dad’s old company had that kind of policy no warning and security guard for you to clear out your desk and leave every time, but he worked for a defense contractor that had had sabotage by a fired employee and they built missiles and had explosives on site until the city got to big and close to them. Still was not nice to worry about. No normal company has any business treating people like that and MM could have protected themselves but not been such jerks if they wanted to.
Dad’s company also had a history of laying off people a year before retirement. they even did it well up the management ladder. It was proven to be policy by rather obvious statistics and they got caught. Not sure of the penalties but they acted better for awhile. Always struck me as stupid that they did it to their own management, like asking for trouble but unable to not act like dicks.
Amir Khalid
@rikyrah:
I clicked on your link. Among the other stories there was this one about Lindsay Lohan, who posted a video on Instagram in defence of Harvey Weinstein. I tell you, that girl’s not right in the head.
El Caganer
@rikyrah: Good for her. I can’t begin to imagine what it’s like to take shit 24/7 for 8 years from people who don’t even know you.
Humboldtblue
Welp, looks like Eminem won that rap battle, is he now the president because he beat Donald’s ass like a drum?
NotMax
@bystander
Rumors of celebrity deaths are nothing new.
Formerly disgruntled in Oregon
@?BillinGlendaleCA: I love vote by mail!
Leto
@Kay: That’s been the default tool for over 30 years, so much that it’s basically its own axiom. You’re correct that it’s lazy thinking, but we have lazy people running most of the news apparatus. At least on the picture machine. It’s big part of the reason I come here for analysis: Balloon Juice- Where Lazy Thinking Dies.
rikyrah
Trump’s Approval Is Down in All 50 States
by Martin Longman
October 10, 2017
Looking at the Morning Consult state-by-state poll numbers, there are a few interesting things to observe from the Electoral College perspective. Here are some of them:
Trump has a lower approval number in Michigan (a state he won by 10,000 votes), than he does in Colorado (which he lost by 136,000).
He’s polling worse in Arizona (+91,000) than he is in Pennsylvania (-44,000).
The results in Iowa, Wisconsin, Colorado, and Virginia are all about the same, despite the wide variance in the results in those states last November. Iowa is the outlier here, since Trump won the state decisively.
While he’s still net positive, he’s below 50 percent approval in Missouri, Montana, Indiana, Nebraska, Georgia and Florida.
His five best states are Wyoming, West Virginia, Alabama, Louisiana, and Oklahoma, in that order.
The six states with the closest approval/disapproval numbers are Arizona, Florida, Pennsylvania, Ohio, North Carolina and Georgia. It’s hard to see much distinction between them, but he’s near parity in the three formerly Confederate states. He’s barely negative in North Carolina and barely positive in Georgia and Florida.
rikyrah
* Carter Page has been one of the few members of Trump’s team who has been absolutely chatty on cable TV when it comes to questions about the Trump/Russia investigation. Apparently something has changed:
NotMax
@Not Max – @bystander
Case in point: “Paul is dead.”
Leto
@Humboldtblue: By the rules of Epic Rap Battle, that is correct.
Kay
@Humboldtblue:
I’m just glad there’s an alternative to Kid Rock who seemed to be getting WAY more attention as a political operative than he ever did as a musician. Which reminds me- do conservatives and media really want to lay Weinstein on Hillary Clinton when Ted Nugent is an honored guest at the White House? This is endless. We’re going to need a scorecard.
rikyrah
* Charlie Cook says that events this week have changed the outlook for the 2018 midterms.
Kay
@rikyrah:
It’s interesting to me that the economy doesn’t matter anymore. I wonder if that’s part of stagnant wages and increasing income inequality. It’s never “better” to people, there’s no upward mobility energy- it just sucks slightly less. Stuck on “bad to middling” for MOST people. Maybe Bush was the last President to get a boost from a “good economy”- his two terms really locked in structural inequality so that would make sense.
rikyrah
The lies Donald Trump likes a little too much
10/11/17 09:20 AM
By Steve Benen
It’s not exactly a secret that Donald Trump tells a staggering number of lies on a nearly daily basis, but I’m especially interested in the ones he returns to, over and over again, even after being told he’s wrong.
In this week’s interview with Forbes, for example, the president boasted, “I’ve had just about the most legislation passed of any president, in a nine-month period, that’s ever served. We had over 50 bills passed. I’m not talking about executive orders only, which are very important. I’m talking about bills.”
This is, of course, demonstrably ridiculous, as Trump surely knows. But there’s a rationale behind the lie: the president is embarrassed by his failures, and he can’t explain his lack of accomplishments, so he’s made up a legislative record that exists only in his imagination.
Similarly, Trump needs a rationale to sell his plan for massive tax cuts. The truth won’t do, so as Politico noted, the president is clinging to a specific lie.
Kay
@rikyrah:
It’s like they’re fresh out of “bubble” ideas and now they don’t care because economic inequality is so locked in they don’t have to worry if the natives get restless. Not a damn thing the angry majority can do about it.
rikyrah
Trump World isn’t done running against Hillary Clinton
10/11/17 08:40 AM
By Steve Benen
For much of 2017, the line from Hillary Clinton’s conservative detractors was simple: she lost last year, so it’s incumbent on her to retreat from public life. No one, the argument went, wanted a failed presidential candidate to be a prominent voice on the major issues of the day. It was time for her to exit the stage.
Oddly enough, the argument recently flipped. Clinton’s detractors, after demanding her silence for months, have begun condemning her for not saying more about controversies such as the sexual assault allegations surrounding Hollywood producer Harvey Weinstein. Suddenly, everyone wants the failed presidential candidate to be a prominent voice on a major issue of the day.
So, Clinton issued a statement yesterday expressing her disgust with Weinstein, prompting Republicans to complain that she didn’t speak out quickly enough.
………………………………..
I suppose the obvious response to this is to focus on Conway’s audacious hypocrisy, working for Donald Trump – a man who was repeatedly accused of sexual assault – while criticizing Clinton for not issuing a statement condemning Weinstein at a speed Conway considers acceptable.
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
@NorthLeft12:
Here were my partial thoughts on the brilliant managerial types they’ve been hiring, an excerpt from my blowtorch email to the organizational Powers that Be:
“You operate a charity, not a bank, and need to consider that when sweeping away older employees in your crusade to enable whatever brilliant business strategy that the LinkedIn management category aggregators that you’ve been hiring of late have been suggesting. Your continued operations rely on community goodwill, and that, my friends, can get spent very quickly, particularly when you terminate people in as humiliating a way possible.
I eagerly await your response, should any of you have the courage to make one.”
Leto
Trump needs the help of those 52 idiots to even try to get anything done, but will instead probably back Bannon’s effort for more “loyalty”. It’s too much to ask that this would permanently cripple the party at the federal level, but one can hope. Good job, Shit Midas. Keep doin’ what you’re best at.
NotMax
@rikyrah
Amended for accuracy.
rikyrah
@Kay:
Who are they going to blame?
They don’t have Democrats to blame anymore.
And, the people they vote for never gave two shyts about economic inequality in the first place.
It became an issue because the Black man was in the White House.
rikyrah
Two months later, Trump’s inaction on opioids is ‘not good’
10/11/17 08:00 AM
By Steve Benen
It started on Aug. 10. That was the day Donald Trump, speaking from one of his golf resorts, used the words many in the public-health community wanted to hear.
“The opioid crisis is an emergency, and I’m saying officially, right now, it is an emergency,” the president said from Bedminster. “It’s a national emergency. We’re going to spend a lot of time, a lot of effort and a lot of money on the opioid crisis.”
As regular readers know, Trump’s use of the word “officially” stood out because of its procedural significance: when a president makes an official emergency declaration, a series of steps are supposed to kick into action. NBC News reported at the time, “Experts said that the national emergency declaration would allow the executive branch to direct funds towards expanding treatment facilities and supplying police officers with the anti-overdose remedy naloxone.”
Yesterday, meanwhile, was Oct. 10 – exactly two months later – and the official written declaration still hasn’t happened. New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie (R), the man the president appointed to lead a White House opioid commission, conceded yesterday that Trump’s inaction is “not good.”
Kay
Now. Why wasn’t this covered as “struggling working class who are rightfully angry that elites ignore them”?
I would suggest it’s because these workers are not that white and not that male. There’s just no recognition of these people as akin to Donald Trump’s 25,000 coal miners and there are a LOT more of them. Something wrong with that, in terms of reporting reality. Is the work they do less worthwhile or honorable than pulling coal from the ground? Why aren’t they respected as workers?
bemused
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes:
Jesus, they wouldn’t let her take her personal items, her briefcase with ipad and her checkbooks? I suppose this happens a lot more than I know but ain’t right. Legality?
Just One More Canuck
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: please keep us up to date on this – I would love to read the cowering response they are likely to give you
Leto
@Kay: There’s an interesting article on The Guardian about automation coming to the trucking industry, and the reaction to that. It’s similar to coal miners (can’t wait for the coming trucker wars), but your comment about “stagnant wages””
End of the Road
danielx
@rikyrah:
Shades of Bloody Bill Kristol.
I am happy to note that while Kid Rock’s Senate candidacy was a head fake, the Baud!2020 campaign is very much alive.
rikyrah
THE RACHEL MADDOW SHOW 10/10/17
Sexual allegations against Weinstein expose open Hollywood secret
Rachel Maddow looks at how recent stories of powerful men accused of sexual misconduct evolved from backstories of secrets.
THE RACHEL MADDOW SHOW 10/10/17
Hollywood women accusing Harvey Weinstein in growing numbers
Ronan Farrow, contributor to The New Yorker, talks with Rachel Maddow about his months-long reporting on allegations of sexual harassment, assault, and rape against Hollywood producer Harvey Weinstein.
THE RACHEL MADDOW SHOW 10/10/17
Abuse of power a recurrent theme in accusations against Weinstein
Ronan Farrow, contributor to The New Yorker, talks with Rachel Maddow about why the abuse of power depicted in the allegations against Harvey Weinstein makes it a story that resonates beyond Hollywood.
rikyrah
THIS MUTHAPHUCKA HERE!!
THE RACHEL MADDOW SHOW 10/10/17
Nunes lunges back into Russia investigation with subpoenas
Rachel Maddow reports on Rep. Devin Nunes, supposedly removed from the Trump Russia investigation, inserting himself again, this time with subpoenas for Fusion GPS, the firm behind the Trump Russia dossier.
THE RACHEL MADDOW SHOW 10/10/17
Nunes goes rogue with Trump Russia subpoenas
Congressman Eric Swalwell talks with Rachel Maddow about how it an be that Rep. Nunes is issuing subpoenas in the Trump Russia investigation when he is supposed to have stepped aside because of his conflicts.
Betty Cracker
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: Torched those mofos! Bravo!
rikyrah
Meet the 2017 MacArthur Fellows (#MacFellow), 24 creative people who inspire us all: https://t.co/pqjqXrvo0O pic.twitter.com/wJMxSpZINR
— MacArthur Foundation (@macfound) October 11, 2017
rikyrah
BWA HA HA HAH A HA HA AHH AH A
Trump’s UK state visit downgraded, “he will not be guest of the Queen”. https://t.co/eZ0XrQgB3n
— Ale (@aliasvaughn) October 11, 2017
Spikester
@Another Scott:
Modern Management 101: Get the olds off the health insurance.
Patricia Kayden
@Baud: Yes, not a fan but you have to give Eminem props for that righteous anger. It was palpable.
NotMax
@rikyrah
Dolt 45 needs extra time so he can practice a frowny face and astringent glare northward during his upcoming planned stop at the Korean DMZ.
Patricia Kayden
@rikyrah: I’m sure the Queen didn’t want that Vulgar man anywhere near her castle. Ditto Mrs. Plagiarism.
NotMax
@Patricia Kayden
“Her majesty sends her regrets but that’s her day to wash her hair.”
:)
rikyrah
They are trying to kill those people in Puerto Rico.
US officials “privately acknowledge” serious Puerto Rico food shortage: https://t.co/e78ye6CTmG
— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) October 11, 2017
SFAW
@rikyrah:
Of course they do. That’s like saying they don’t have Hillary to blame (for anything/everything) anymore. They will continue doing that until they’re all dead, or all the Dems are dead.
Actually, even if all the Dems died, they’d continue to blame them. Because when has “The Party of Personal Responsibility” ever accepted ANY responsibility for ANY of the fucked-up results they have produced?
Ruckus
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
Starting?
I vote by mail, have for years. I’d bet though that you are talking about the goal of making all voting in CA vote by mail. Yes that is being attempted. Don’t know how far along it is or how far along it will get.
rikyrah
Tucker Carlson actually just did a segment about how Clinton is a Weinstein enabler, from the chair where O’Reilly sat, on Ailes’s network.
— Lauren Duca (@laurenduca) October 11, 2017
NotMax
@sylvania
Jeeze, that’s almost painfully forced. Suggested alteration:
Sickly tan, more a baby than a man.
SFAW
@NotMax:
Or floss her doggies.
“It’s not you, Shitgib- … er, uh, sir — it’s me.”
NotMax
@rikyrah
Picture of Tucker in the dictionary, as example of “vapid.”
/wishful thinking
rikyrah
SCOOP: NBC had the NYPD audio, women on camera talking about Weinstein’s abuse. For MONTHS. https://t.co/JAHAdl2Xwc
— Lydia Polgreen (@lpolgreen) October 10, 2017
SFAW
@rikyrah:
Fucker Carlscum needs to have a closed-door session with Mr. Hillerich and Mr. Bradsby.
Major Major Major Major
@rikyrah:
That’s a better morning read than the news from Trumpistan for me, thanks.
NotMax
@rikyrah
It’s hardly uncommon for a major news organization to have info such as that on file while they work behind the scenes to flesh out a story.
A Ghost To Most
@SFAW: I prefer Fucker Tarleton, but that works too.
A Ghost To Most
@danielx: Has Baud denounced Weinstein yet?
NotMax
@A Ghost To Most
Hey now, one of my most fondly remembered high school teachers was named Tarleton.
Steeplejack
@rikyrah:
Ronan Farrow implied on Rachel Maddow’s show last night that NBC spiked the story before he took it to The New Yorker.
NotMax
@Steeplejack
After (unfortunately) inadvertently watching Farrow’s hour of shallow insipidness a couple of times when he had an MSNBC show, doubtful of his bona fides as regards professional journalism.
Miss Bianca
Dag. Wow. “The rest of the country stand up”. Thank you, Eminem!
Steeplejack
@NotMax:
What snobbish bullshit. His story is solidly sourced and reported, and it was good enough for The New Yorker, which is still a blue-chip news outlet with rigorous vetting.
TV host <> reporter. You can fail at one thing without failing at everything.
NotMax
@Steeplejack
He lucked into a solid story.
’nuff said.
Corner Stone
@NotMax: I was not a big fan of his short stint on MSNBC but this looks like solid, down to earth digging, with multiple sources on record. He didn’t say, “NBC spiked me.” But NBC sure as hell spiked him.
Gretchen
Bernie for Kansas City Facebook group is celebrating that a “true progressive” is going to primary Claire McCaskill. Idiots. They’re blaming her for Obamacare not being better and think that if they get their unknown into a Republican-majority Congress they could magically get Medicare for All. No word on how she would beat the Koch-funded Republican who is already running attack ads.
clay
@rikyrah:
Oh fer….
Clinton “enabled” Weinstein by… doing what, exactly? I hate to be the “well, let’s check the dictionary” guy… but let’s check the fuckin’ dictionary.
Now, how in the seven hells did Hillary give Harvey the authority or means to do anything? He had the ‘authority’ by owning a company, and he had the ‘means’ by having lots of money and lots of young women who wanted to succeed in his business.
Did Hillary give him any of those things? No? Then stuff it in your fuck-hole, Tucker.
Miss Bianca
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: Monsieur Le Comte, if I ever got in any sort of jam where I need legal representation, I sure would like to have you on my team! Altho’ I’m sure I could never afford you!
germy
http://nomoremister.blogspot.com/2017/10/when-weinstein-wanted-to-trash-victim.html
Dorothy A. Winsor (formerly Iowa Old Lady)
@rikyrah: Thanks for sharing that. What a great group of people.
Jeffro
Trumpov is tweeting about how the economy is doing totes awesome; therefore of course we need massive tax cuts to get the economy going. Um…
Miss Bianca
@Leto: I read that article yesterday. Sobering. Particularly the part about the stagnant wages and the obsessive regulation of the truckers’ time.
I keep thinking of the words of brecht’s Galileo, speaking to the Little Monk: “I have seen the divine patience of your people. But where is their divine wrath?”
A Ghost To Most
@rikyrah:
One small ray of light – people are rejecting the fascist mouthpieces who leave Faux.
Chyron HR
@Gretchen:
That’s fine. They are welcome to run as many primary challenges as they like. It’s the “burn the country down out of spite when you lose the primary” thing that’s the problem.
Jack the Second
@JGabriel: Generation X gets it coming and going.
A Ghost To Most
WaPo Daily 202
Chyron HR
@rikyrah:
Who the hell does the Queen of England think she is?
If England can do without Trump, then America can do without England!
Bill
Haven’t read all the comments, so I’m not sure if this was covered above, but I hate the fact that Mr. Mathers is being lauded as an anti-Trump spokesman this morning. This is a guy who’s written and unapologetically released some of the misogynistic and homophobic lyrics imaginable. It’s cool that he roasted Trump and all, but I’d prefer that the left not strongly associate itself with this particular musician.
germy
Miss Bianca
@germy: Rose-Marie!! She’s still alive and kicking hard! Somehow, this makes me so happy right now!
Nelle
@raven: Years ago, my husband was confronted by security and HR and told to gather his things and leave. Humiliating, but not really threatening as he had already sent in his two week notice a week earlier and this happened a week later, when they got around to reading his letter of resignation. He was quietly gathering his things and he picked up a stack of invoices that he had been about to send out. He said, “Can I take these?” “Absolutely not,” replied the security guard. So he calmly tore them up and tossed them in the wastebasket, while they watched with approval. He was told he was not allowed to talk to anyone at the company anymore. About three weeks later, he got a frantic phone call about the invoices (it was a lot, a lot of money). He replied, “Oh, I was told I’m not allowed to talk to you” and hung up. Pretty good exit, right?
PaulWartenberg
Any chance Eminem releases his rant as a single?
Also, trump just threatened to go after NBC News’ broadcast license. Say goodbye to the 1st Amendment, kiddies…
PaulWartenberg
@Nelle:
Ouch.
I was a lot nicer when I got canned.
A Ghost To Most
@Nelle: Nice. Fuckem.
PaulWartenberg
@rikyrah:
Quick, everybody book all the hotel rooms in the UK for that week!!!
trollhattan
@Leto:
I wonder if we’re ready to cede control of the Interstates to robot truck trains. I’m not, I prefer trains to be on rails.
germy
@Miss Bianca:
What an amazing career she’s had. Belting out blues songs during the Great Depression when she was still “Baby Rose Marie” kept performing during WWII and into the ’50s, then had a great role as a wisecracking comedy writer on the Dick Van Dyke Show in the ’60s. She was a great singer through all those years.
And her tweets are priceless.
trollhattan
@PaulWartenberg:
Remember the faux freakout over new President Obama restoring the Fairness Doctrine? Good times.
rikyrah
Trump takes an interest in the NFL’s ‘massive tax breaks’
10/11/17 10:07 AM
By Steve Benen
Donald Trump recently decided it’d be a good idea to expand the nation’s culture wars to include athletes who engage in civil-rights protests. Yesterday, as the Washington Post reported, the president took the conversation in a very specific direction.
President Trump on Tuesday escalated his tirades against the NFL in an ongoing controversy over players who kneel to protest racial injustice, questioning tax breaks for professional football and attacking an ESPN commentator who has been critical of him and the league.
As a rule, I don’t much care about the eagerness with which the president wants to feud with athletes who hurt his feelings – though he really should have better things to do with his time – but Trump’s tweet got me thinking. Just what kind of “massive tax breaks” do professional football teams actually enjoy?
Up until a couple of years ago, the NFL was organized as a 501(c)(6) tax-exempt organization, which exempted the league from taxes on some of its activities. Some congressional Democrats, most notably Sens. Maria Cantwell (D-Wash.) and Cory Booker (D-N.J.), made the case in 2015 that it was time to take that benefit away.
clay
@: Why on earth do US government agencies have Russian software on their computers?
Miss Bianca
@germy: I remember her from the Dick Van Dyke show. I think it subconsciously influenced me, seeing Rose Marie holding her own professionally and trading jabs with Dick and Morey Amsterdam – counteracted some of those messages I was already absorbing about women’s place in the professional world. I forgot about the “Baby Rose Marie” period of her career!
germy
rikyrah
Trump finds new ways to condemn reporting he doesn’t like
10/11/17 11:27 AM
By Steve Benen
Last week, Donald Trump’s authoritarian instincts got the better of him, and he called on Congress to investigate American media outlets that publish news he doesn’t like. This morning, apparently bothered by the latest reporting on his July 20 meeting at the Pentagon, the president went just a little further.
On the one hand, it’s not at all healthy in a modern democracy to have a chief executive publicly threaten the broadcast licenses of news organizations that publish reports he disapproves of. We’ve all grown quite accustomed to Trump’s posturing, but that doesn’t make his antics any easier to defend.
Steeplejack
@rikyrah:
What a maroon! Wouldn’t taking away the tax breaks hurt the owners, not the players? Rhetorical question.
ThresherK
@Chyron HR:
rikyrah
The Chefs can find these towns in Puerto Rico, but FEMA CAN’T?
They are trying to kill these American citizens.
…………………
LIVE: food crisis in Puerto Rico! We’re #ChefsForPuertoRico—we can feed the island here & now with heart. Puerto Ric https://t.co/exxHVWwXwI
— José Andrés (@chefjoseandres) October 11, 2017
Kelly
@?BillinGlendaleCA: I’m another Oregonian that likes vote by mail.By the way Are us blue staters just missing all the rampant illegal voting that goes on in our communities or does rampant illegal voting only happen in red states?
JGabriel
PaulWartenberg:
Well, there’s no backing track in the video. Eminem will probably just let people mash it up with various riffs and beats on youtube.
Chyron HR
@ThresherK:
No, a whore has sex for money. Melania just takes her clothes off for money!
Jamey
@Betty Cracker: Geesh. Tough crowd. I’ll look for your tweets and help to make it a two-nobody campaign. (“I am Spartacus.”)
Bess
@p.a.:
We might be missing the big point here. It’s not so much about Trump’s depravity.
Apparently he was watching them piss on the bed in which President Obama had slept.