“October 1964 should be a hit with old-time baseball fans, who’ll relish the opportunity to relive that year’s to-die-for World Series, when the dynastic but aging New York Yankees squared off against the upstart St. Louis Cardinals. It should be a hit with younger students of the game, who’ll eat up the vivid portrayals of legends like Mickey Mantle and Roger Maris of the Yankees and Bob Gibson and Lou Brock of the Cardinals. Most of all, however, David Halberstam’s new book should be a hit with anyone interested in understanding the important interplay between sports and society.”
Oddly enough – because for a while there he was touted as about to be cast for the lead in every movie being made – and as he’s almost never been a personal potential pick, could see Nicholas Cage in the role.
13.
Mr Stagger Lee
@raven: Fair point. One thing I remember the 2001 WS where the media implied if you rooted against the New York Yankees you wee some kind of traitor, like Osama Bin Laden had a Randy Johnson poster in his cave. I was glad Arizona won that year. America somehow survived.
“No beagles were harmed during the making of this film.”
:)
15.
Betty Cracker
@raven: I have not. Cranston was pretty darn good in “All the Way.” Good guy to consult!
16.
trollhattan
@NotMax:
Two local indicators it’s late October: Halloween decorations and the sun is awfully scarce in the morning and evening. So why am I driving around with the top down, using A/C instead of the furnace and seeing trees with all their leaves?
Weird year through and through.
17.
Mary G
Go Dodgers!
18.
frosty
So what’s with the pants in baseball these days? Some of them wear them so long they’re dragging on the ground, others are doing the high stocking thing. I noticed it last year. When did this trend start?
It’s been a disappointing day in sports so far. Penn State blowing a lead to Ohio State. Minnesota losing 3-2 to Wisconsin on three horrendous defensive zone blunders. The Gopher football team playing someone better than awful.
At least Iowa State beat their second Top 5 undefeated team this month, behind a quarterback who lost the starting job at Hutchinson Community College a couple of years ago.
Mentally filed away for future use as a catch-all for questionable brownish liquors is a scene recently seen in a movie.
Guy sits down at a bar and requests a shot of “Old Underwear.”
Even better, IMHO, than Rumpole’s habit of ordering “Chateau Thames Embankment.”
23.
Elmo
Open Thread! So I can bitch.
Grocery delivery is available in my area for six bucks – yay! So I indulge. Today the delivery guy took his heavily laden panel truck off my driveway onto my lawn to turn around. Bad idea, as we’ve recently had rain. Truck is axle deep in mud.
Not to be deterred – he spun the wheels enough to dig a six-inch deep furrow ten feet long. Sprayed mud and sod and grass everywhere.
Then he helped himself to my seasoned oak firewood to try and get out. Nope.
My brick stash. Nope.
My slate stone stash. Nope.
Mind you, this is all without saying a word to me.
When the tow truck finally came to get him out, he left the furrows, the brick, the slate, and the firewood, buried in eight inches of mud.
At first I felt bad for him, stuck because my lawn is soft and treacherous. Then he left that disaster behind and God help me I hope he gets fired.
24.
Ohio Mom
Any word yet about efg? I’m not liking the lack of news.
On another note, I am so tired from a very long week that I took two naps today and am about ready to call it a day. See you all tomorrow.
. Why do some Major League baseball players wear their pants so high above their socks?
A. Because whether they mean to or not, a few players are preserving a proud, 150-year tradition, a tradition that many lament is dying as baseball fashion has come full circle in the past three decades. Yes, just as some investors historically have studied women’s hemlines to predict how the stock market will fare, baseball purists have kept a close eye on a recent hosiery trend that they say is totally lacking in socks appeal.
Ironically, the pairing of short pants and high socks likely caused as much of a stir when the they were first worn as they apparently do now for people like you. Baseball historians say that when the sport began in earnest in the 1830s and ’40s, all players wore long pants just as most have gone back to now since the 1990s. After all, it was only natural to want to protect your legs if you were sliding into home plate or flinging yourself at a hot grounder rocketing up the middle.
Today was beautiful here ahead of the coming storm, so I got my bicycle out and went for a ride. First time since last fall, because of the slight unpleasantness toward the end of ski season. My physical therapist didn’t forbid it, when I saw her on Tuesday, and my surgeon had said back in September that if my strength was improving, I could give it a try around this time.
Only did 10 or so miles, because I didn’t know how the arm would feel and didn’t want to get stuck too far from home. But it felt fine, and now hours later, sitting here with a cold one it’s still fine. Cardio-wise, I was about where you’d expect given a year off, but the rest of it was automatic. “Like riding a bike.”
33.
Elmo
@amygdala: Already did. Emailed and called. The service reps in the phone were appropriately horrified, but we’ll see.
34.
Mary G
@Gin & Tonic: Glad to hear you’re back on the bike.
Did anyone see the “stand up to cancer” moment at the WS game? So touching and effective, especially “Mom” and “Dad” signs.
@Gin & Tonic: Good news that you’re doing well enough to give the bike a try. Glad the arm didn’t protest.
I got a new bike just before the weather turned cold and rainy. Had the local bike shop put it together for me, took it home, and promptly fell off on my first slight incline. Haven’t been on a bicycle in over 10 years and probably 30 lbs ago, so I’m way out of practice.
I vote old school socks: stirrups with sanitaries underneath. I even like the ‘50’s/‘60’s sleeveless top look. Not a fan of the pillbox hats the Pirates used to wear. And remember the Chisox collared shirts? With shorts, IIRC.
43.
PhoenixRising
@Mary G: and the link between Ted Cruz and cancer…I went there…is that the malignant growth on our body politic must be resisted and fought with everything we have.
44.
ThresherK
@frosty: Some call them “Manny Jammies”, after Manny Ramirez, which goes back a bit. Maybe a few players wearing them have to stumble when the cuff catches on the cleat at the heel to stop it.
I prefer high-cuffed on the calf, and with the socks showing. And striped socks, if at all possible.
45.
frosty
Ouch, tough way to lose the no-hitter. And the shutout, too.
Whoever wins, these have been some good games. The train is annoying me, though.
60.
Duane
@raven: The Cardinals won the ’67 series, defeating the Red Sox, 4-3.They lost in ’68 4-3 to the Tigers, after leading 3-1. A wonderful introduction to baseball for a youngster who became a Cardinal fan from then on. Gibson and Brock were the greatest.
@Duane: You’d love the book then. Halberstam talks about the time McCarver went to Gibby and said “there is a colored guy waiting for you outside”. Bob said “what color is he”?
Pro tip: From the Google search results page, click the little three-dot icon and select “View original image.” You end up with a much shorter hyperlink that usually gives the reader at least a little advance information of what they’re clicking on.
Also, your original link at #61 looks like it failed because you didn’t erase the http prefix that FYWP (un)helpfully provides in the link address box.
@Steeplejack: with the most recent ios upgrade, putting the cursor in the link box doesn’t activate the ipad keyboard. instead of backspacing the default http//, i have to paste the link, re-cursor at the original http//, which then will activate the keyboard, then backspace it out. the first, failed test, i also backspaced a “, which bollixed the link.
but thanks for the other tip.
73.
James E. Powell
Against all my expectations both my teams won today. I am happier than I have any right to be.
74.
Duane
@raven: When I was about ten or twelve, my parents and I went to St. Louis to see a couple of games and see the sights. One night, we went to a riverboat restaurant. (the Mississippi Queen, now resting at the bottom of the river).
I was standing at the railing and a man came and stood beside me . It was Bob Gibson. I said hi. He said hi.
I had read his book, “From Ghetto to Glory,” and knew he was a private person, so I said nothing else. We stood their together, looking at the river, like friends would do. Eventually, he walked away. I’m glad I didn’t say anything but hi, or somehow pester him away. In my mind, I made friends with Bob Gibson.
75.
suilebhan
Sorry, Betty, but it’s go Dodger Blue. The franchise that brought us Jackie Robinson definitely needs to beat Yuli’s team. Besides, the “stros” were originally named after a damned handgun. I’m old enough to remember the Houston Colt 45s.
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Mike J
Let’s go Dodgers, what with being less racist and all.
NotMax
It’s the freakin’ cusp of November.
So much for ‘the boys of summer.’
raven
Lot’s of sports ball tonight. I have 2 football games on the tube and the baseball on my new 7 Plus.
raven
@NotMax: Uh, The Boys of October : How the 1975 Boston Red Sox Embodied Baseball’s Ideals–and Restored Our Spirits
raven
October 1964
NotMax
@raven
Admitting the problem is the first step to recovery.
;)
Thought of you while re-reading this the other day:
LBJ’s shrewd moves to make Thurgood Marshall the nation’s first black Supreme Court justice
raven
@NotMax: Woody, who lives up the road from you, plays him in the new movie and said he has a whole new perspective on him now. Not me.
Mr Stagger Lee
@raven: Sorry but growing up a Cincinnati Reds fan, The Big Red Machine were my heroes, screw that East Coast Bias. Though I did like Luis Tiant.
raven
@Mr Stagger Lee: My point was that there is nothing new about when the series is played.
Betty Cracker
@raven: Having a tough time imagining Harrelson pulling off a portrayal of LBJ. ? Nope. Don’t see it. He’s a good actor, though. Bet he makes it work.
raven
@Betty Cracker: Have you seen the trailers? He said Brian Cranston really helped him with the role.
NotMax
@Betty Cracker
Oddly enough – because for a while there he was touted as about to be cast for the lead in every movie being made – and as he’s almost never been a personal potential pick, could see Nicholas Cage in the role.
Mr Stagger Lee
@raven: Fair point. One thing I remember the 2001 WS where the media implied if you rooted against the New York Yankees you wee some kind of traitor, like Osama Bin Laden had a Randy Johnson poster in his cave. I was glad Arizona won that year. America somehow survived.
NotMax
@raven
“No beagles were harmed during the making of this film.”
:)
Betty Cracker
@raven: I have not. Cranston was pretty darn good in “All the Way.” Good guy to consult!
trollhattan
@NotMax:
Two local indicators it’s late October: Halloween decorations and the sun is awfully scarce in the morning and evening. So why am I driving around with the top down, using A/C instead of the furnace and seeing trees with all their leaves?
Weird year through and through.
Mary G
Go Dodgers!
frosty
So what’s with the pants in baseball these days? Some of them wear them so long they’re dragging on the ground, others are doing the high stocking thing. I noticed it last year. When did this trend start?
(shakes fist at clouds)
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Mr Stagger Lee: The Reds were kind of the second choice team in my hometown if the Dodgers didn’t make it, since Sparky lived there.
Tissue Thin Pseudonym
It’s been a disappointing day in sports so far. Penn State blowing a lead to Ohio State. Minnesota losing 3-2 to Wisconsin on three horrendous defensive zone blunders. The Gopher football team playing someone better than awful.
At least Iowa State beat their second Top 5 undefeated team this month, behind a quarterback who lost the starting job at Hutchinson Community College a couple of years ago.
raven
@Tissue Thin Pseudonym: Hahahahahahaha, my Dawgs move into #2 at leasr=t!!!!
NotMax
Mentally filed away for future use as a catch-all for questionable brownish liquors is a scene recently seen in a movie.
Guy sits down at a bar and requests a shot of “Old Underwear.”
Even better, IMHO, than Rumpole’s habit of ordering “Chateau Thames Embankment.”
Elmo
Open Thread! So I can bitch.
Grocery delivery is available in my area for six bucks – yay! So I indulge. Today the delivery guy took his heavily laden panel truck off my driveway onto my lawn to turn around. Bad idea, as we’ve recently had rain. Truck is axle deep in mud.
Not to be deterred – he spun the wheels enough to dig a six-inch deep furrow ten feet long. Sprayed mud and sod and grass everywhere.
Then he helped himself to my seasoned oak firewood to try and get out. Nope.
My brick stash. Nope.
My slate stone stash. Nope.
Mind you, this is all without saying a word to me.
When the tow truck finally came to get him out, he left the furrows, the brick, the slate, and the firewood, buried in eight inches of mud.
At first I felt bad for him, stuck because my lawn is soft and treacherous. Then he left that disaster behind and God help me I hope he gets fired.
Ohio Mom
Any word yet about efg? I’m not liking the lack of news.
On another note, I am so tired from a very long week that I took two naps today and am about ready to call it a day. See you all tomorrow.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@raven: Got some happy fingers there.
hedgehog mobile
@Tissue Thin Pseudonym: Yeah Cyclones!
raven
@?BillinGlendaleCA: You try watching 3 games and writing spiffy comments all at once!
raven
@Ohio Mom: Nope, he’d be here dissing my Dawgs if he was ok.
amygdala
@Elmo: Can you lodge a complaint with the delivery service? Getting stuck in the mud is one thing, but the rest is unacceptable.
debbie
@frosty:
More than a few years. Still looks like they’re playing in pajamas.
raven
@debbie:
Gin & Tonic
Today was beautiful here ahead of the coming storm, so I got my bicycle out and went for a ride. First time since last fall, because of the slight unpleasantness toward the end of ski season. My physical therapist didn’t forbid it, when I saw her on Tuesday, and my surgeon had said back in September that if my strength was improving, I could give it a try around this time.
Only did 10 or so miles, because I didn’t know how the arm would feel and didn’t want to get stuck too far from home. But it felt fine, and now hours later, sitting here with a cold one it’s still fine. Cardio-wise, I was about where you’d expect given a year off, but the rest of it was automatic. “Like riding a bike.”
Elmo
@amygdala: Already did. Emailed and called. The service reps in the phone were appropriately horrified, but we’ll see.
Mary G
@Gin & Tonic: Glad to hear you’re back on the bike.
Did anyone see the “stand up to cancer” moment at the WS game? So touching and effective, especially “Mom” and “Dad” signs.
ETA: Just saw that Ted Cruz is at the game.
raven
@Mary G: Yea, it was nice.
Gin & Tonic
@Mary G: Thanks. It’s been a really long road to get to this point.
debbie
@raven:
I just can’t get used to them.
raven
@debbie: The announcers always have some cutesy comments about Turner’s hair and beard.
satby
Ef, if you’re lurking, we’re all thinking of you and hoping you’re going to be better soon. And we miss you dude!
satby
@Gin & Tonic: Good news that you’re doing well enough to give the bike a try. Glad the arm didn’t protest.
I got a new bike just before the weather turned cold and rainy. Had the local bike shop put it together for me, took it home, and promptly fell off on my first slight incline. Haven’t been on a bicycle in over 10 years and probably 30 lbs ago, so I’m way out of practice.
MomSense
EfG we hope you are ok.
p.a.
I vote old school socks: stirrups with sanitaries underneath. I even like the ‘50’s/‘60’s sleeveless top look. Not a fan of the pillbox hats the Pirates used to wear. And remember the Chisox collared shirts? With shorts, IIRC.
PhoenixRising
@Mary G: and the link between Ted Cruz and cancer…I went there…is that the malignant growth on our body politic must be resisted and fought with everything we have.
ThresherK
@frosty: Some call them “Manny Jammies”, after Manny Ramirez, which goes back a bit. Maybe a few players wearing them have to stumble when the cuff catches on the cleat at the heel to stop it.
I prefer high-cuffed on the calf, and with the socks showing. And striped socks, if at all possible.
frosty
Ouch, tough way to lose the no-hitter. And the shutout, too.
raven
@frosty: The Dodger Dawg!
Mike J
Did balloon-juice’s roger moore’s twitter account get hacked?
And bjdickmayhew too
Another Scott
@Gin & Tonic: Woot! Glad it went well!
Just don’t start competitive arm wrestling too soon, eh?
>;-p
Cheers,
Scott.
Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (Formerly Mumphrey, et al.)
Seems Twitter banned Roger Stone tonight for good. It’s kind of hard to understand why. He seems like such a nice, even keeled guy…
Gravenstone
@Elmo: If you haven’t already, get pictures (once light) and email them to the delivery service as well to document the damage.
frosty
@Gin & Tonic: Good news on the arm and the bike. Glad to hear if.
Gravenstone
@Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (Formerly Mumphrey, et al.): If only they saw fit to do the same to Trump.
MomSense
@Mike J:
Charles Gaba’s did.
amygdala
@Elmo: I hope you get a quick response. Would pictures be helpful?
Mike J
@MomSense: Same one.
Gin & Tonic
@Another Scott: My surgeon says between the bone and the plate, my right arm is stronger than it was before.
raven
@Gin & Tonic: Strong in the broken places. My spine has titanium rods and a bone graft where is was cracked and it is solid as a rock rock rock!
lgerard
@Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (Formerly Mumphrey, et al.):
Roger Stone always makes me think of this guy
Mary G
Whoever wins, these have been some good games. The train is annoying me, though.
Duane
@raven: The Cardinals won the ’67 series, defeating the Red Sox, 4-3.They lost in ’68 4-3 to the Tigers, after leading 3-1. A wonderful introduction to baseball for a youngster who became a Cardinal fan from then on. Gibson and Brock were the greatest.
p.a.
@lgerard: Or this guy
goddamnit. ios update now can’t linkee
raven
@Duane: You’d love the book then. Halberstam talks about the time McCarver went to Gibby and said “there is a colored guy waiting for you outside”. Bob said “what color is he”?
p.a.
test
p.a.
test 2
o.k. Roger Stone v.2
Duane
@raven: Thanks for the rec.
raven
@Duane: yo
Steeplejack
@p.a.:
Pro tip: From the Google search results page, click the little three-dot icon and select “View original image.” You end up with a much shorter hyperlink that usually gives the reader at least a little advance information of what they’re clicking on.
E.g., Roger Stone v. 2.
Also, your original link at #61 looks like it failed because you didn’t erase the http prefix that FYWP (un)helpfully provides in the link address box.
Doug R
Dodgers win
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Doug R: I hope that makes Ted Cruz sad.
Mary G
I usually never watch the talking heads after the game, but I love Big Papi. Arod looks like a politician.
Duane
Didn’t see that finish coming. Ru-roh!
p.a.
@Steeplejack: with the most recent ios upgrade, putting the cursor in the link box doesn’t activate the ipad keyboard. instead of backspacing the default http//, i have to paste the link, re-cursor at the original http//, which then will activate the keyboard, then backspace it out. the first, failed test, i also backspaced a “, which bollixed the link.
but thanks for the other tip.
James E. Powell
Against all my expectations both my teams won today. I am happier than I have any right to be.
Duane
@raven: When I was about ten or twelve, my parents and I went to St. Louis to see a couple of games and see the sights. One night, we went to a riverboat restaurant. (the Mississippi Queen, now resting at the bottom of the river).
I was standing at the railing and a man came and stood beside me . It was Bob Gibson. I said hi. He said hi.
I had read his book, “From Ghetto to Glory,” and knew he was a private person, so I said nothing else. We stood their together, looking at the river, like friends would do. Eventually, he walked away. I’m glad I didn’t say anything but hi, or somehow pester him away. In my mind, I made friends with Bob Gibson.
suilebhan
Sorry, Betty, but it’s go Dodger Blue. The franchise that brought us Jackie Robinson definitely needs to beat Yuli’s team. Besides, the “stros” were originally named after a damned handgun. I’m old enough to remember the Houston Colt 45s.