Five companies are pulling ads from Sean Hannity's show after his controversial coverage of the sexual assault allegations against Roy Moore. https://t.co/li8e0cIU2U
— Axios (@axios) November 12, 2017
Bring on the Brawndo!…
I pulled an "Office Space" with my Keurig… Would be a shame if everyone else joined me in the Keurig Smash Challenge #BoycottKeurig #IStandWithHannity #SundayMorning pic.twitter.com/yEADeRC006
— Angelo John Gage (@AngeloJohnGage) November 12, 2017
I just want to make sure i don’t miss the messaging. we’re smashing a thing we bought from a corporation that stopped advertising during a show that defended a politician accused of child molestation, and we want the guy that wrote Idiocracy to know we’re fans, is that accurate? https://t.co/PR9vBGoIGR
— Dan Harmon (@danharmon) November 12, 2017
Apart from wondering how some of our fellow citizens manage to feed themselves without sustaining severe fork injuries, what’s on the agenda as we start a new week?
.
You know what comes next:
Roy Moore , Pedophile, bigot and all around extremist nut job is now behind Doug Jones in multiple polls. There is to much defeatism in the air over Jones'chances. Dems, Independents and enough R's can say NO to a Pedophile in the US Senate
— Steve Schmidt (@SteveSchmidtSES) November 12, 2017
MattF
I guess ‘controversial’ is the new ‘disgusting’.
OzarkHillbilly
Headline of the year? Naked people rampage through Missouri town, barking and running around, police say
And they say nothing exciting ever happens around here.
Central Planning
That guy is right up there with the football fans that burn their favorite team gear. I’m surprised they aren’t burning their George Washingtons to protest the Fed or the government or something like that.
rikyrah
Good Morning, Everyone ???
?BillinGlendaleCA
@OzarkHillbilly: I see some folk found your magic beans.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Central Planning:
I’ll be happy to take that off their hands.
OzarkHillbilly
@?BillinGlendaleCA: So THAT’S where they went!!!
OzarkHillbilly
@?BillinGlendaleCA: You take their Washingtons. I’ll take their Benjamins.
Central Planning
@OzarkHillbilly: I wonder if they burn their Lincolns too since he caused the war of northern aggression.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Central Planning: Grant too.
OzarkHillbilly
@Central Planning: @?BillinGlendaleCA: I’ll bet they hold them hostage. I propose a prisoner exchange. We will give them their statues of Lee, Jackson, Davis, etc to be kept safe in the privacy of their own homes and they will give us all their money.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@OzarkHillbilly: Works for me.
?BillinGlendaleCA
What do you all think of this picture? I think the center’s a bit to undefined and a bit uninteresting.
evodevo
@OzarkHillbilly: How did they determine it was unusual ??
Betty Cracker
@?BillinGlendaleCA: I see a woodpecker in the vertical cloud mass in the center, so it’s defined and interesting to me! :)
OzarkHillbilly
@?BillinGlendaleCA: I feel like there is either too much or too little in the foreground, ie the house roofs are distracting. They should be cropped out entirely, or the houses should be shown in their entirety as a starting point for the eye. Which approach you might take depends entirely on what you want the photo to be.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Betty Cracker: I see you got some of OzarkHillbilly’s magic beans, also I’ve tweaked the picture a bit since I first linked to it.
Mustang Bobby
@OzarkHillbilly: Many years ago Lanford Wilson (of Springfield, MO) wrote a play called “The Rimers of Eldritch,” about a small town in rural Missouri with some very interesting characters; basically “Our Town” on meth. Sounds like these folks were auditioning for the revival of the play.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@OzarkHillbilly: I tend to agree, I was conflicted about that. That’s a really quick update. BTW, the Ozarks came up at the meeting of the jackals yesterday in Pasadena.
ETA: Houses are gone now.
OzarkHillbilly
@evodevo: Around here, most people bark with their clothes on.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@OzarkHillbilly: I know that was the tradition in my family.
rikyrah
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
I think it’s beautiful ?
satby
@rikyrah: Good morning ?☕!
David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch
Median age of Fox’s audience is 72 years.
I just don’t think many septuagenarians use a Keurig.
Makes no sense why they waste their advertising budget.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@rikyrah: Thanks, we’ve had some nice sunsets the past few days. I should try for a more rustic location than the top floor of a mall parking lot.
David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch
@?BillinGlendaleCA: Not bad – kinda looks like this one (photo)
Baud
@rikyrah: Good morning.
OzarkHillbilly
@?BillinGlendaleCA: Much better.
Central Planning
@OzarkHillbilly: I’m with you on the prisoner exchange. I’m just not sure how many Grants and Benjamins they really have.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch: I got more blue and less red in mine(Go Bruins, beat SC!).
?BillinGlendaleCA
@OzarkHillbilly: Thanks for the critique.
JR
@Central Planning: KLF famously did that in the 90s.
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
So I just drew a twitter timeout for calling Dana Loesch a moron.
Zero profanity. Yet Nazis run freely.
Barbara
@David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch: I gave my mom a Keurig for Christmas. She is 82 and uses it all the time.
OzarkHillbilly
@Central Planning: More than they deserve
@?BillinGlendaleCA: I live to serve (humbly bows)
Kay
This is interesting:
Tony J
@OzarkHillbilly:
Tell me that entire report doesn’t sound like an outtake from the ‘How We Got Here’ montage at the beginning of any of a dozen zombie horror movies.
“It started small at first. Isolated reports from middle-of-nowhere towns. People acting crazy, acting like animals. We all laughed. Until it started happening more and more, and the towns became cities, and suddenly there was crazy everywhere and we were the ones on the run.”
#youthought2016 was bad
Kay
@David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch:
Elderly people love them. They can make one cup at a time and it’s easier than measuring. They’re all over the place in assisted living.
Betty Cracker
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: Twitter’s community standards are utterly incoherent. Loesch is not only a moron, it’s her JOB to foment rage and fear among heavily armed people to inspire them to buy even more semi-automatic weapons. If anyone needs a trip to the corner, it’s Loesch. And the many Nazis on Twitter, of course.
OzarkHillbilly
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: So much for “The truth will set you free.”
debbie
Hope they smash all their Keurigs and go back to ordering $8 Starbucks in the name of Donald Trump. Their financial ruin is our best hope.
OzarkHillbilly
@Tony J: I can not tell a lie.
Tarragon
So I’ve reffed Roller Derby a few times with the Bills streaker.
In derby he goes by Senor Wiener.
He lived up to it last night
Anne Laurie
@David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch:
It’s gifting season. I assume the reasoning is that elderly people will buy Keurigs to give to the coffee-addicted young folk in their lives — so modern! So convenient!
Of course, if the recipients are actually coffee snobs, they’d be appalled at the idea of using Keurig pods for their artisanal brew anyway, but the Fox viewers wouldn’t know that…
Yoda Dog
Good Morning!
Kuerig isn’t the only advertiser to drop their spots on Hannity. Could he be going the way of Halperin and O’Reilly? Is that asking too much?!
Shantanu Saha
@Betty Cracker: If they gave Loesch a timeout, they’d have to give one to Trump as well.
Baud
I thought Kuerig was bad for the environment.
debbie
@Yoda Dog:
Yes. Slime hangs on. Glenn Beck’s still here.
debbie
@Baud:
They’re starting to make cups that will compost.
hueyplong
Hannity, like Fox and Friends, skews extra stupid, so I can’t see him ever losing his audience.
Baud
@debbie: Oh thanks. Can’t wait to buy one and then destroy it.
Kay
@debbie:
One of the most amusing things in politics is when market-worshiping conservatives encounter actual corporate PR efforts. They’re such crybabies. They happily endorse health insurance companies kicking people to the curb and they’ll lecture you about it- “this is reality, grow up” they’re real tough guys- savvy in the ways of commerce- but when a consumer product doesn’t want the reputational risk of supporting Hannity all of a sudden “markets” go out the window and their rights are being trampled.
The Great God of Commerce loves Republicans! It’s such a betrayal!
Anne Laurie
@Kay: Ah. So maybe the Keurig campaign was based on Nanna telling the adult grandkids, Well, if you must waste your money buying me presents, there’s this wonderful contraption I’ve been seeing on the tv…
Baud
GMA is in PR and VI. Good.
More good.
The Atlantic
Yoda Dog
@debbie: A boy can have a dream…
In the meantime, watching these poor wittle babies get their fee-fees all hurt because pedophilia turned out to be a bridge too far for a german coffee machine company? Priceless.
Yoda Dog
@Baud: I feel like if we can take the Alabama seat, we could get the Senate.. Not sure how realistic that is, but Moore is so bad, I feel like its possible at least.
Baud
Could Roy Moore actually be peak wingnut?
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Shantanu Saha: As the kid said, “Trump destroyed Twitter”.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Baud: No, SATSQ.
magurakurin
@Kay: if I get to the point where I can’t measure a scoop of coffee into the filter over my cup and pour hot water over it…seriously, just fucking shoot me. I really don’t get the thing about coffee being some sort of chore that needs the convenience of those hideous machines. There is absolutely nothing hard, difficult, complicated or time consuming about pour hot water over ground coffee in a filter. Fuck Keurig machines.
rikyrah
@Kay:
Have read several comments on other blogs from former evangelicals, who have voiced this sentiment.
Kay
@Baud:
Good. They have to stop the tax law in the meantime, though. I know – I’m moving the goalposts- but they can’t let the Trumpists rewrite the tax code to benefit 100k rich people on the backs of everyone else:
It’s SO bad. 100k-200k get hit too. I don’t even know how they managed to come up with such shit work. It’s aggressively bad.
It is exactly the opposite of what they said they would do. There’s all kinds of small goodies in there for rich people too- a subsidy for high income private K-12 schools! I wonder who slid that in there. Can you imagine? They’re raising taxes on people who make 40k to help rich people with private school tuition. It’s like a parody “clueless plutocrats”
arrieve
@?BillinGlendaleCA: I love the picture — very dramatic. The contrails are a great effect. Maybe crop a little off the left side to move the center over a bit?
satby
@magurakurin: not to mention that it turns mediocre coffee into something you pay more than $20/lb for.
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
More Roy Moore, per Wiki:
Most men would be ashamed to admit something like this. Only an asshole who reveled in being an asshole would include it in an autobiography.
rikyrah
@Yoda Dog:
I know that it’s Alabama.
But, Jones is a good candidate.
And , as I have said from the beginning,.
If Democrats can’t go all out for someone who PUT THE KLAN IN JAIL…
Then, who should we support?
I am under no delusions that Jones doesn’t have an uphill battle. But, sometimes , you battle because it’s the right thing to do.
Betty Cracker
@Kay: Here’s your answer:
Baud
@Kay: It’ll get zero Democratic votes. Voters will be told Congress is to blame.
magurakurin
@Baud: it’s damn sure bad for coffee. that coffee is shit. Making a cup of coffee is the easiest goddamn thing in the world. Why anyone needs a machine to pour hot water over coffee…beats the hell outta me.
Baud
@Betty Cracker: Hahahahaha.
rikyrah
@Kay:
They had to STOP THE LIE that everyone was going to get a tax cut.
They want their sociopathic dreams, and they want them NOW.??
Tony J
@OzarkHillbilly: @OzarkHillbilly:
Bang goes your place in the upcoming Emergency Baudian Regime.
magurakurin
@satby: $20 a pound will get you some very fine coffee, what a waste.
rikyrah
@Kay:
Didn’t know about that goody. Will spread the word.
Baud
@magurakurin: I still don’t understand why I can’t buy coffee by the gallon like milk. That would save me some time in the morning.
Matt McIrvin
@Anne Laurie: I have a low-end Keurig (got it as a gift) but I don’t use the disposable cups, I have a wire mesh cup for it that I put my own grounds into. Which kind of defeats the purpose of using a Keurig in the first place, so a different single-serving drip coffee maker would probably be better, but this is the one I have. I was using a plastic French press for a while but I think it cracked.
Betty Cracker
@Baud: My supermarket started selling cold brew coffee in cartons in the dairy section, next to the half-and-half. I’m told you can heat it up or drink it iced. Supposedly it’s more caffeinated than regular coffee. Haven’t tried it yet.
Booger
@magurakurin: The appeal of Keurig is obvious: You can brew a single serving of mediocre hazelnut-flavored hot water, throw it out, then brew a single serving of mediocre mocha-flavored hot water, repeating as necessary.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@arrieve: I think cropping the left further(I’ve already cropped the left to remove part of a tree) would bring the sunset off center, the mountains as well.
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
@Baud:
Throw it in a cup and heat it in the microwave. Yum.
magurakurin
@Baud: you can here in Japan well by the quart anyway
Yoda Dog
@rikyrah: 100% agree and I’ve given him money and will again.
I just don’t want to get my hopes up too high.. Trying to keep an even keel is tough these days with a shitgibbon in my constant peripheral.
Baud
@rikyrah:
Depends. Where is he on single payer?
@Betty Cracker:
Progress!
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Baud: Fortunately, I don’t have this problem; I quit drinking coffee almost 30 years ago.
Kay
@magurakurin:
Oh, I don’t know. Really old people have all sorts of frustrating small problems. I get their frustration. I can sit with my mother in law and it turns into her handing me everything – “read that – is it a cup? open this. Put this away, I’m afraid I’ll fall” I would go insane at the lack of agency. Before she went into assisted living I once watched her unable to lift a big jug of laundry detergent. I felt like if I hadn’t have been there she would have given up and used dish detergent.
Whatever one can give them that lets them do for themselves is good, I think. They don’t want to ask for all this help.
She loves Obama. Her entire political analysis is whether pols have “a nice family” – he does, so he makes the cut- so one of my brothers in law gave her some huge Obama biographical tome. The book is too heavy. She would have to rest it on her lap to read for any length of time. We brought it back to the bookstore and the clerk got her problem immediately. Imagine that – “this book is too heavy for me to read”. She’s frail which makes me sad because she was such a force to be reckoned with when she was younger- opinionated, blunt, funny but with an edge. I was afraid of her when I first met her. Now she’s like a little bird.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Baud: Has Bernie endorsed him?
Dorothy A. Winsor (formerly Iowa Old Lady)
Our son gave us a Keurig that we don’t use, but they serve a purpose. A friend of mine doesn’t drink coffee so when I go to stay with her, she gets out a Keurig for me. And they dropped Hannity, so good on them.
Eric S.
@David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch: My mother, who just turned 73, uses a Keurig. On the other hand, she does not watch Faux News.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Kay:
Wait, they’re different?
Another Scott
@rikyrah: Thank you for making that point so well and so early.
That really is the bottom line in this election.
Too many people complain that Democratic candidates aren’t good enough. Well, what about Doug? Is he really not good enough? Is he really “the lesser of two evils”?
Really?!
Come on, people, step up and support the man if you’re able.
Cheers,
Scott.
magurakurin
@Matt McIrvin: just get a filter holder at the dollar store, a pack of paper filters, your favorite mug cup, and a teapot. You’re good to go. Simple, easy, fast. I use an electric kettle instead of my gas range because gas is so damn expensive here and the electric kettles are really fast to boil.
Baud
@?BillinGlendaleCA: I hope not. He doesn’t have the best track record.
Kay
@magurakurin:
Things that let people who can’t do things do for themselves are good. When they started selling giant apples I realized my small children could barely eat them. The curve is too long for their mouths. They’re like scraping the sides of this apple attempting to bite it. They need smaller apples! :)
Companies figured it out. They have small apples they market to kids now.
PAM Dirac
@Baud:
My brother says he has been Robin Roberts’ pilot (helicopter) for a lot of her work there.
gene108
@Baud:
So are disposable ball point pens versus fountain pens, but convenience always wins out.
satby
@Betty Cracker: Cold brew is concentrated, you’re supposed to dilute it. But again, it’s easier, cheaper, and better tasting to make your own.
Just One More Canuck
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: isn’t the truth a defense?
HeleninEire
@Betty Cracker: That’s brilliant. Gotta look for it.
magurakurin
@Kay: I can’t say for sure, but I honestly don’t want to be around if I can’t boil water, dump a spoonful of coffee into a filter and pour water over it. I get what your saying, and I’ve seen people use those machines. The way I make coffee is easier. It isn’t a complicated process. It doesn’t involve precise measurements or timing. It doesn’t involve heavy lifting. If people get their jollies with those machines…god bless them I suppose. But it just beats the hell out of me why making coffee is thought of as some sort of high effort chore.
Baud
@PAM Dirac: Cool.
@gene108: I didn’t know that.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Baud: I still use a quill and inkwell.
Another Scott
@magurakurin: As was said earlier, I think a big part of the appeal is that there’s a variety of flavors, and (IIRC), one can adjust the brewing time. It’s convenient if one has a bunch of people over who like different things.
We don’t have one, and I’m not a coffee drinker. I’m glad that the inventor guy (reportedly said he) was horrified by all the waste generated by the cups, and that the company was working on ways to reduce the environmental impact.
Oldsters have issues, also too. Anything that makes things easier for them is a big plus.
And anyone who finally sees that advertising on RWNJ shows is destroying our country should be applauded. The quickest way to change the MSM conversation is to take away the money.
Cheers,
Scott.
hueyplong
I hope Moore follows through with his threat to sue the Washington Post. Moore will love the discovery process. How TF did he become a judge?
gene108
@Yoda Dog:
Like Ginsu knives, Keurig is an American product, with a foreign sounding name. Green Mountain coffee, I think they are based in Vermont, invented the single serve K-Cup and started started selling single serve machines under the brand name Keurig, because I guess someone in marketing thought it sounded cool.
magurakurin
@Another Scott: different strokes for sure. My family has a house by the shore, it was my grandparents. Lots of people stay there now in the summer, all my different relatives. My mom is there for the month of August. There is a Keurig machine there that someone else bought. The first thing my mom does is put it away in the attic. Nobody who is there that month has any need for it. Whatever wiggles your waggle, I suppose.
Another Scott
@Baud: Yalda Hakim of the BBC had a pretty good (extended) report, there.
It’s a disaster, but it was pretty bad before the hurricane(s) as well. I’m uncomfortable with the (IMO) emphasis (though it wasn’t at all over-the-top) on the “debt” – that’s a symptom, not a cause. She talked with real people and highlighted many of the real issues.
Cheers,
Scott.
Baud
@hueyplong: They are elected in Alabama.
And John Edwards and Anthony Weiner had long careers before they were found out. Of course, we now reject them given what we know.
satby
This coffee conversation is making me laugh. Right now I’m drinking my third cup of coffee that’s using carmel iced coffee as creamer.
Why yes, I might have a dependency problem.
chris
@?BillinGlendaleCA: Perfect shot of the chemtrails! I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.
(Beautiful colours. Might pop more if you cropped out the chemtrails?)
Spanky
@Baud:
Ohellnaw.
I’ll say it again: There is no peak wingnut.
Baud
@Another Scott: I get that. All anyone can ask for is a decent government response, not miracles. I hope that aspect has stabilized at least. Haven’t heard much recently, but I don’t know if that’s simply because the media has moved on.
Betty Cracker
@Kay: It’s sad the way age whittles people down.
SFAW
@hueyplong:
I’ve said before: put Hannity (The Stupidest Man on TV), Louie Gohmert (The Stupidest Man in Congress), and Jim Hoft (The Stupidest Man on the Internet) into a locked room, with appropriate weaponry, and tell them they’re all vying for the title — and only one can survive. (Kind of a combo of WWE and Highlander.) With any luck, none of them does.
gene108
@Baud:
Fountain pens are reusable, and made from metal. You run out of ink, you go to your glass ink jar (recyclable and/or reusable) and refill your pen.
They are a lot harder to write with than ballpoint pens.
Cursive, I think, was (is?) taught the way it was to accommodate people writing with fountain pens to not get ink splotches all over a page.
They are pretty though, compared to ballpoints.
Montanareddog
@rikyrah: There were knuckledraggers defending Moore this weekend literally saying better a child molester than a Dem because Dems are evil. That is what the US is up against now – a tribalism so intense that a sizeable section of the population backs a pedophile over someone who sent child murderers to prison.
Baud
@gene108: Fair. I would have assumed they use more ink though. Maybe not.
Amir Khalid
@satby:
I believe that is what marketing people refer to as “adding value”. As for the Keurig device itself, it makes no sense to me. In the now-ancient days when I still drank coffee, it was black Nescafé sans sucre from the vending machine outside the editorial floor. Being Nescafé, it tasted awful, but it got caffeine into my system at minimal cost.
magurakurin
@?BillinGlendaleCA: yeah well, you’re in California, right?
“They’re way ahead out there.”
SFAW
@Baud:
I thought we were down on (as opposed to “down with”) the whole single-serving thing?
Dorothy A. Winsor (formerly Iowa Old Lady)
@Baud: A friend of mine works for the Corps of Engineers. I’ve mentioned her before. She’s the archeologist whom they sent to Laos to work on recovering and identifying MIA and POW remains. She’s been told she might be deployed to PR next month, not as an archeologist, but as an extra pair of hands to distribute generators.
Immanentize
@Baud: There is a good article in the FTFNYTimes this morning about how Whitefish is stealing in PR — linemen paid $69/hr, Whitefish bills $319 for that work.
Baud
@Dorothy A. Winsor (formerly Iowa Old Lady): Wow. Interesting.
@Immanentize: I thought that contract was cancelled after the uproar.
Joey Maloney
@David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch: Au contraire, mon frère! I know several oldsters who have bought them and love them. Older folks can have trouble handling a full pot and many can’t or don’t want more than the occasional cup anyway – and with the Keurig they can buy a wide selection of coffee, tea, even cocoa blends and have exactly what they want when they want it.
chris
For the serious caffeine hound only the Black Blood of the Earth will do.
Immanentize
@Betty Cracker: Life does that even when age doesn’t
I have an Aunt who seems like she is literally whittled down. She is like a smaller version of her old self. Her daughter describes her as “pocket sized.”. But still no one messes with her.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@chris: I have a shot without the chemtrails.
Amir Khalid
@Montanareddog:
Per NBC News, Roy Moore says he’s going to sue The Washington Post for printing those women’s horrible lies about him.
I wonder if he actually will.
Immanentize
@Baud: not entirely. They already had people on the ground. Also, a major HIGH VOLTAGE power line they installed failed, leaving the North of PR again with no electricity. Broken line? Sabotage? Who can say?
Thursday
I’m mostly a lurker here, but I’ve got to share this with somebody or I don’t know if I can take it. It’s just bouncing around over and over in my head.
I had a weird dream last night.
I somehow found myself in some big Washington DC event. Lots of press were there, along with Trump and most of his cabinet. There was some big international event happening – I think aliens might have been arriving, but I’m unsure.
So I realize I’m sitting beside the head editor at the Washington Post, and I compliment him on his paper, telling him I read it nearly every day. And soon after that, through some coincidence I don’t recall, a soldier came to have some rope around his neck.
And Trump proceeded to choke him for nearly ten seconds.
Pandemonium broke out, people were going crazy, and I saw some military police whisk Trump away. The editor and I couldn’t believe our eyes.
Then, thirty seconds later, Trump was back in the room, the soldiers were gone, and all the people around Trump were laughing loudly and avoiding looking at where the soldier had been.
And I screamed. I yelled, as loud as I could, asking everyone if they were really going to ignore that.
And the party went on as if they couldn’t here me at all.
I turned to the editor, desperate for confirmation that I hadn’t gone mad, and he too looked shaken.
After that I got a not-very-good version of Iron Man’s armor and just kinda flew around.
But the party bit stuck with me.
Anyway, long story short, apparently I can’t even avoid Trump in my dreams now. So yeah.
sixthdoctor
Would like to recommend a documentary I saw this weekend at the Virginia Film Festival. It’s called What Lies Upstream (whatliesupstream.com) and it starts with the 2014 chemical spill in West Virginia’s drinking water but goes into industry writing law, Flint, and systemic issues in the EPA. It will air on PBS next Earth Day and is playing at film festivals.
satby
@Thursday: that’s horrible.
Spanky
While I rarely commented on them, I find that I miss “On the Road” this morning. I hope Alain is doing OK.
BRyan
@magurakurin: I don’t get the aversion to a keurig. I don’t own one, but I will someday — it’s a good answer for those of us who never drink coffee and would prefer not to have to send guests out to starbucks for their morning fix. Doesn’t matter how easy it is to just measure out coffee and pour water over it if a tub of coffee (does coffee come in tubs?) isn’t something you routinely keep in the house.
JR
Keurig is like all products of convenience — works for some situations but never as well as the labor intensive process (I prefer aero press). Notable that Nespresso has the process down a little better — it has to do with the way they dry their coffee.
For a work environment or for people with movement impairment it is a great idea.
Baud
@Thursday: Take comfort. In real life, his little hands could never grip a rope.
TomatoQueen
@magurakurin: When you develop essential tremor in your dominant hand, as my father did at age 50 or so, and it looks like I’m doing also at a similar age, then yadda yadda about your environment, your gourmet tastes, and the correct boiling point of water. The Keurig and similar systems provide a cup o’ Joe, and prevent burns.
Immanentize
@Amir Khalid: There is no possible grounds for a lawsuit against WAPO. They printed a super well resourced piece, in which individuals made claims about a public personality. No case at all unless it was all lies fabricated by WAPO. Of course, he might think it is, because that is how FOX works.
BTW, How hard is it to just ask Moore whether he took this 14 year old on a date? Or had drinks with the 16 year old? Did he or did he not go out with these girls? Forget the sex stuff, just ask him whether he did in fact pick up a FOURTEEN YEAR OLD GIRL at the Courthouse during her mother’s custody hearing. Pretty simple question.
Baud
@Thursday: BTW, the Iron Man part means you are ready to fight back.
raven
@Kay: I worked at the Center For Rehabilitation Technology at Georgia Tech and we were always looking to improve accessibility for folks. It is now the Center for Assistive Technology and Environmental Access, if people think making things accessible is not a good thing I don’r know what to say.
Amir Khalid
@Thursday:
I suggest you contact Mnemosyne and see if she knows anyone who can help you get a movie deal for that dream. In the meantime, you might consider a temporary break from following the news.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Spanky: Here’s a pic for ya then.
Patricia Kayden
@Kay:
Horrific. Then we have creeps like that Duck Dynasty patriarch encouraging men to marry young teens. Huge sigh.
OzarkHillbilly
@?BillinGlendaleCA: That’s funny. I thought you used photoshop.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Amir Khalid: Wait, the Giant Evil Corporation makes movies?
JPL
@Thursday: The freedom girls and the Man in the High Castle caused me to have nightmares, and after that I had to be careful what I watched on TV. It’s horrifying that we have to live in the same country as the asshole.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@OzarkHillbilly: All the pics I linked to this morning were done in Lightroom.
Amir Khalid
@Immanentize:
Pretty much what I thought, too. And from my experience of the newspaper biz, I know the WaPo would have made damn sure a story this big and this sensitive was lawsuit-proof before they ran it.
Enhanced Voting Techniques
@Kay: eww that reminded of the father / daughter dances the Bible Thumpers do that’s basically sanctioned incest.
Yes Promise Keepers, that’s it
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Promise_Keepers
chris
@?BillinGlendaleCA: So you do. Beautiful.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@chris: Heh, you asked. Still want to subscribe to my newsletter?
Amir Khalid
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
I heard somewhere that it was in show business, or something.
Betty Cracker
@Immanentize: My great-grandmother was like that — nobody messed with her. Lived to be almost 100 and had everyone in the family cowed until the day she died.
FlipYrWhig
@SFAW:
All we want is life beyond the Thunderderp.
Immanentize
@Amir Khalid: If Moore was serious, he would sue the girls for slander. But he won’t. Because everyone knows they told the truth. Even the Alabamoron what wanted to prosecute the girls-now-women said it was for not reporting earlier.
different-church-lady
I’d happily smash a Keurig, simply because it makes some of the worst coffee I’ve ever had and yet the damn things are like an algae infestation.
germy
Woman Says George H.W. Bush Groped Her When She Was 16: ‘I Was a Child’
magurakurin
@TomatoQueen: whatever. My father died at 60 from alcoholism. My best friend just died at 58 from heart disease. My father in law is 81 and still climbs up trees and trims them as a landscaper. It’s shit road filled with trouble and then we die. But the fact remains that the overwhelming majority of people making coffee with those shitty machines are not suffering from palsy. Honestly, it’s not a fucking gourmet thing to pour hot water over coffee grinds. It just isn’t. It isn’t hard. It isn’t tricky. It just isn’t. If someone is incapacitated, that’s sad for sure. But there is no way in hell that company is existing on such a market share. whatever. No fucking way in hell I’m going to spend hundreds of dollars for something I can do with something I can buy for a dollar at the 5 and dime.
hueyplong
@SFAW
How stupid is Hannity? Here is one of his tweets:
“Deplorable friends, I am buying 500 coffee makers tomorrow to give away!! Details on radio and TV. Hint; best videos!!”
BUYING five hundred of the machines. That’ll teach ’em. Kind of the opposite of a boycott there, Sparky.
Immanentize
@Betty Cracker:. Whenever you mention your Gram, I think of Cold Comfort Farm? And I smile.
Quinerly
@Baud:
I thought the “Not a Witch” chick was peak wing nut. Fun times. I was so young and naive.?
different-church-lady
@Thursday: That was no dream!
raven
@magurakurin: What the fuck is your problem, you got the crabs or something?
chris
@?BillinGlendaleCA: Bookmarked your photostream
Spanky
@?BillinGlendaleCA: Thanks! I like this one better than the one up top.
OzarkHillbilly
@Immanentize: That is not a fair accounting. Whitefish is also providing food and housing and the necessary equipment in an extremely difficult situation. Mind you, it is still a rip off operation, so bad we don’t need to make it look worse than it is.
Enhanced Voting Techniques
So are people protesting Hanitry for defending Moore or not defending the little pedo enough? It’s hard to tell in this Post Ethics Era.
different-church-lady
@magurakurin: It’s not about the coffee. It’s not about the effort. It’s about the fact that you get to play with a machine. Keurigs are Fisher Price toys for adults
kindness
My parents were northeastern Republicans. They’ve been dead for 10 & 20 years now. I wonder what they would have thought of their party had they still been alive. btw – Reagan’s excesses embarrassed them. See up in the NE it used to be Republicans were fiscal conservatives but social liberals.
What happened to their party?
magurakurin
@raven: every fucking day. I’m just a crank. Ignore me. Everyone else in the world does. I just hate those fucking machines. Sorry. FIDO, brother.
Immanentize
God I love this whole comment stream….
sixthdoctor
OTOH, Keurig uses environmentally wasteful coffee pods which ALSO triggers liberals! Maybe we can catch Hannity in a mind blowing paradox loop…
magurakurin
@sixthdoctor: now I feel peace…
germy
@hueyplong:
So the manufacturer says “Great, we just sold a shit load of these things without having to advertise on his show.”
Spanky
@Immanentize:
Yep. And I’m thinking I’ll have another cuppa joe.
From the office Keurig machine.
Jeffro
@Kay:
And whatever insignificant cuts they’re putting in for the middle class as window dressing – get this – they plan on sunsetting those midway through the 10-year-window, while making the cuts for the rich permanent. Isn’t that something?
The Cynical Trick That Could Save The GOP Tax Plan:
cmorenc
@Baud:
Garrison Keillor, in the immediate aftermath of Trump’s election (and the GOP controlling both House and Senate) – sagely noted that the best corrective would be to let the electorate find out what GOP governance was really like.
Gremcat
There is a story in the Washington Post about a letter to Congress that was signed by 400 millionaires and billionaires asking them NOT to cut their taxes. The mentioned that the economy is doing fine and that it would increase the inequality, that is already at an all time high. I think this tax reform bill may not be a done deal,
different-church-lady
@magurakurin: Indeed. People are surprised by my coffee; “What are you doing?” It’s simple: a) recently roasted beans that are not pre-ground; b) grind just before brewing; c) don’t over-grind; d) pour hot water over it.
That’s it. The moment you grind a coffee bean it starts to go stale. So don’t grind it until you’re ready to brew it. There is no pre-ground coffee in the world that can avoid a nasty fate by the time it’s brewed, no matter how you package it.
OzarkHillbilly
@Thursday: Sucks to be you.
Jeffro
@Baud:(re: supporting Jones)
I’m smiling.
MattF
@Amir Khalid: I’d guess it depends on where the money to pay the lawyers is coming from. I doubt that Moore himself has the money.
Sab
@David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch: My dad is a nonogenarian. If I switch the remote off Faux he will never find it again. I do not understand why advertisers waste money on his channel, because he can’t work the phone well enough to buy what they sell, plus he can’t drive to the mall.
Jeffro
@Amir Khalid:
WaPo: “Please don’t throw us in that briar patch, Uncle Roy, please don’t”
Discovery should be a hoot and a half.
Kay
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
Hah! In her younger days she was an expert in fabric care. She’d give me gifts of clothing (nice- she has good taste) and say “don’t ruin that by putting it in the washer”. Merry Christmas!
She has nice bracelets that she loves so my husband had the clasps replaced with magnetic clasps. The store told him they do hundreds of these changes a year for older people. I want them now. I’m too clumsy to screw with little hinges.
Immanentize
@OzarkHillbilly: the NY Times:
Linky
Scotian
@Thursday:
Antwerp! Antwerp!!! For the sake of the species…ANTWERP!
(Obscure Lathe of Heaven reference)
More seriously, that would have woken me up screaming. Just reading your description did more to wake me up than a three cup mug of coffee has so far, as well as gave me one of the worst goosebump reactions in years, even worse than the the night Trump “won” (sorry, but when you are aided to the extent by outside forces, ie Vlad and Comey like that, and “win with such a narrow margin, I have to call its legitimacy into question, not because I want to, but because the conditions mandate it).
The truly scary part is that this feels like it really could have happened given all else we all see.
Thank GOD Justin Trudeau beat Harper a year before you got the current Officeholder. Not only is he far easier to look at and listen to (even with his irritating “ahs”) he won’t sell us out wholesale to Trumpism and the worst of the GOP power masters, whereas Harper was their protege in this nation. I can use my image of Justin to ward off that evil image you described…out out damned spot/Trump…
Sorry, been a weird weekend and its Monday. My humour has yet to default to the usual standard values of weirdness..LOL
Uncle Cosmo
@Baud: If he loses, he’ll be piqued wingnut, anyway…
Patricia Kayden
@Baud: Isn’t the Senate easier to win back than the House due to gerrymandering?
different-church-lady
@Kay: MIT has an “Aging Lab” where they study how elderly bodies interact with the physical world. They have this suit contraption that has a bunch of bungie cords and rubber straps in key places. The youngsters get into the suit and it simulates how hard it is for older bodies to do simple things like open a car door or reach for a seatbelt, and they try to figure out how to improve product design based on that experience.
I can’t help but think the suit also teaches a bit of empathy.
SFAW
@OzarkHillbilly:
Did the photographers at least get you from your “good side”?
OzarkHillbilly
@different-church-lady: I thought Legos were toys for adults. That’s why we keep stealing them from the kids.
SFAW
@FlipYrWhig:
We don’t need another zero ? (IQ, that is)
gene108
@OzarkHillbilly:
Lodging and meals and incidentals (per diem) are separate charges on top of the hourly billing rates.
They are charging a bit more for those than a typical high cost city in the mainland.
Edit: For clarity. Whitefish is billing the government $319/hr for labor. $79 and change for per diem (meals per day) and $300 or so per day for lodging its workers
Uncle Cosmo
@magurakurin: You java purists… Go down to the local dollar store & buy enough reusable single-serve K-cups to accommodate however many varieties of beans you carry home & grind yourself. Scratch a code # on each cup, make a master list of which takes what, keep list handy for your senior moments. Problem solved!
Fair Economist
@different-church-lady:
This is my experience. Cheap coffee is good when you open the can. Fancy-pants artisanal East African coffee is nasty if it was ground two weeks ago. Keurig is sealed, so it’s still fairly fresh.
Although I do think the beans age too, just more slowly.
Also while it’s not rocket science to pull out a filter, measure some coffee, clean the coffee grinder, grind the coffee, and run hot water, it does take time and attention. I get the convenience factor. I still avoid it because $$$ and plastic trash galore.
OzarkHillbilly
@kindness: Same with my parents, Ma gave up on them during W’s reign. Pop would have too if he’d still had access to his brain.
Immanentize
@Patricia Kayden: Yes it is, but not in 2018. Every two years, roughly a third of the Senate is (re) elected. This particular cycle is bad for the Dems as they are defending way more seats and few of the Republican seats are in close States. That’s because six years ago (when the current Senators were elected). Obama was on the ballot. It was a good year for the Dems. So it would have to be super good year for Dems to pick up many seats.
But 2020 will be, I think, a very good year for Senate Dems.
Uncle Cosmo
@FlipYrWhig: Blunderdumb.
Kay
@different-church-lady:
I think that human thing little kids have “I can do it BY MYSELF” is powerful. You have to respect that. To have HAD all that agency and control and see it slipping away must be brutal. A loss.
PaulWartenberg
Every Hannity fan threatening to smash some coffee machines is gonna hafta answer to 100 million coffee drinkers wondering where the F-CK their coffees went.
Fair Economist
@Patricia Kayden:
Generally yes, but not in 2018 because 25 of 33 seats open (IIRC) are already Democratic. This is our “triple miracle” cohort where we’ve had a Senate wave 3 elections in a row, even when the rest of the vote didn’t go our way (like 2000).
SFAW
@hueyplong:
That Hannity tweet is not unlike the Erick Ericksdumbfuck “campaign” to send ice melter to Olympia Snowe (Get it? Ice melter to melt “Snowe”? Example # 437 of why there are no good/successful RWNJ comedians) after some vote or something.
Morons, all of them.
PaulWartenberg
To every Roy Moore supporter out there:
THERE IS A SPECIAL HELL RESERVED FOR CHILD MOLESTERS.
And people who talk at the theater, which tells you just how f-cked up those child molesters are.
Ceci n est pas mon nym
Joining the coffee conversation late, I’m going to recommend two methods that might strike you as snooty and fussy but are super easy, easier than drip coffee.
1. French Press. I avoided these for years, thinking it would be complicated but it’s not. Dump grounds into glass beaker. Dump water in. Wait a few minutes. Pour. The “press” part is a piston you push in just before pouring that strains out the floating grounds.
2. Bialetti espresso maker. Fill with water up to line. Fill with grounds up to line. Screw shut. Heat on stove till you hear it boil. Pour.
Now one that should be easy but isn’t for sone reason. I love Greek/Turkish/Arabic coffee. You basically dump the grounds into the water and heat on the stove, but there’s some magic with getting just the right amount of heating. A Greek friend tried to teach me but it didn’t take.
magurakurin
@Uncle Cosmo: it’s not a purity thing. That’s the point. It’s just coffee. You pour hot water over coffee into a cup. finished. end of story. You want to make me some coffee some other way, I will happily drink it. But for myself, I can’t be bothered because nothing else is needed.
Immanentize
@different-church-lady: A few years back, my son’s robotics team worked with the lab and made kid-sized versions of the Old Person Suit.
Kay
@magurakurin:
I’m actually curious about this method you describe. I drink quite a bit of coffee so I need a giant drip pot but your way does sound easy. I have a Mr Coffee I got at a thrift store- there are tens of them. They probably never have to make another one. There’s sufficient numbers for the whole world, in existence. Like guns.
Montanareddog
@Jeffro:
Heh, heh.
I doubt that lawyer Roy Moore, even if he his moron lawyer Roy Moore, has any real plans to sue The Post. That is just the kind of empty threat that Trump is fond of. It’s always a few weeks down the line and is just a part of the Gish Gallop past bad news.
magurakurin
@Ceci n est pas mon nym: I have both. Sometimes use them, but I can’t be bothered to clean them. They make nice coffee though and are easy.
Ceci n est pas mon nym
@Kay: German friends of ours used to do it that way. You just need something to hold the filter and grounds over the cup, like a funnel, while it drips.
PaulWartenberg
@Patricia Kayden:
The Senate only has one-third running in one election cycle. So one party COULD conceivably sweep all 33 (or 34 one cycle) seats and STILL not gain control of that body.
There’s a Senate Election map at 270towin https://www.270towin.com/2018-senate-election/ and if you give every running seat to the Dems, that WOULD flip the Senate Blue 57 seats to 43. However, we’re talking about states like West Virginia, MS and AL, Texas, TN and MO and a couple of other Red States that are going to be hard flips. Sabato’s Crystal Balls predictative model has the Republicans securing 50 seats to the Dems 46 with 4 seats undecided at this point. Granted, by next year voters may be disgusted enough with the GOP to lower the Republicans’ odds, but previous midterms – and the fact that voter suppression efforts are GROWING in Red States – aren’t in the Democrats favor.
dr. luba
@Joey Maloney:
Tea? That is what astounds me: K-cups to make tea. Tea already comes in handy, biodegradable, single serve tea bags…..
OzarkHillbilly
@Immanentize: As I said, it’s bad enough on it’s own with a full accounting that we do not need to make it look worse than it is.
Back when I was working real jobs my compensation package we over $50 per hour. I’m pretty sure the contractors I worked for were charging $100 per hour. So, $69 x 2 = $138** plus housing and food and equipment (which I have no idea how much they are costing
**Their profit would be something smaller than $69 as it also covers all their costs which I also have no idea of.
rikyrah
I hear these cases and just get enraged.
PoliticsNation with Al Sharpton 11/5/17
Locked up for 40 years was he the wrong man?
Rev. Al Sharpton has Kevin Brinkley on, a man wrongfully convicted for a crime as a juvenile who after 40 years has finally been released. Hear his story alongside his uncle Greg Brinkley.
Barbara
@Kay: Re: Keurig
Plus, you don’t throw out what you don’t use. People like me would rather throw out some extra coffee than create masses of plastic cup waste, but I can tell you that elderly people don’t see the world the same way. My mother in law used to SAVE coffee and reheat it for the next morning.
JR
@Gremcat: “the object is to shear the sheep, not to skin them”
SFAW
@magurakurin:
Co-sign. Coffee is just a Caffeine Delivery Vehicle. Some people love the taste, and make a big deal about it. Others (e.g., yours truly) are of the mindset that, as long as it doesn’t taste like the proverbial cat piss, taste is immaterial. [Note: I do not know what cat piss tastes like, of course, but “I been told.”]
magurakurin
@Kay: I actually put my filter holder over a stainless thermos pot so I can make two mugs. The thermos keeps the second cup hot. You can use pretty much any coffee, but if the grounds are really big the water drips a bit fast and the coffee is weak. The filters are just regular brown or white filters for drip machines. It’s super easy. I broke down and bought a ceramic filter holder for seven bucks, but cheap plastic ones work fine.
Tenar Arha
@Kay: @David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch: My father preferred instant at the end of his life. But that’s because we realized he would do that elderly thing and not use the Keurig even if we bought him one. It was a bad idea because he was ornery, not because it was something he couldn’t use.
Like Kay said, when your hands shake it’s much easier to handle 8-12 oz. of water and a k-cup.
OzarkHillbilly
@SFAW: At my age nobody has a “good side”.
magurakurin
@dr. luba: yes, it’s madness.
Fair Economist
@PaulWartenberg:
That prediction gives us North Dakota *and* West Virginia and seems a bit optimistic. I think I’d say 50 to 44 with a bit of a lean to the Dems in the undecided seats.
This is why Alabama becomes so important because if we win it then the map is 49 to 45 and flipping requires “only” a solid wave, not a historical event.
Barbara
@Kay: Dare I say she might like an e-reader? No book is ever too heavy when it is digital. But I miss real books, and she probably would too. Still, I read both. It depends on the likelihood that i will want to read it again whether I get the real format or the e-format. Sometimes I get the e-reader and then buy the real thing.
OzarkHillbilly
@gene108: Ah, so it’s even worse than my cynicism could imagine. Thanx for the correction.
geg6
@different-church-lady:
True. And I’m not a huge coffee drinker. But good coffee is ridiculously easy to make yourself and no machine can do it as well as we can just by grinding our own beans and pouring boiling water over it.
Those Keurig things are, IMHO, pretty dangerous, especially to the elderly, disabled and anyone with illness or disease. I’ve read numerous articles about how disgusting and filthy most of them are in a very short time, filled with very bad bacteria. And they are apparently the devil to get clean and bacteria-free. You want grandma and grandpa to have a cup of coffee safely? Your Keurig is most definitely not the way to go about it.
different-church-lady
@dr. luba:
Unless it comes in one of those new synthetic tea bags that I can’t put in the compost… I mean, are people ACTIVELY looking to destroy the planet at this point?
Fair Economist
@rikyrah:
OMFG. His whole adult life lost to racism and lies.
schrodingers_cat
The Kuering hate here is pretty silly. You can get reusable Keurig cups from Amazon and use your own coffee. Its just a convenience and works for some people and situations. We got ours as a gift. I am not much of coffee drinker, I make my tea the old fashioned way with loose leaves and a kettle of boiling water. Keurig is good for the occasional cup of coffee, an entire pot is wasted on me, and as others have said for guests. Coffee purist husband kitteh, uses French press.
Barbara
@Ceci n est pas mon nym: The thing with French press is to get the size that suits your needs. Mine is too big. I should get a smaller one, or even two, in case I need to make coffee for visitors. There are all kinds of contraptions. My cousin uses something with a name like aerocafe, which is made for camping, but he liked the coffee it made so much that he uses it every day. but it’s the same concept as a press, it’s just vacuum sealed and made for one cup only.
bemused
@germy:
Makes me wonder if gramps did this to his granddaughters, Jenna and Barbara.
Spanky
@SFAW:
Apropos of nothing else, this did remind me of something I’ve noticed. Has anyone else noticed the similarity between the smell of brewing coffee and skunk? Especially (only!) when faint.
I know only too well what it smells like when two skunks fight underneath your bedroom in an old house on piers. It ain’t that.
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
@gene108:
I use a fountain pen most of the time, anymore.
Hand cramps are way down.
schrodingers_cat
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: Me too. Handwriting is much better. My father gave me his entire collection and I lubs them. What ink do you use?
MCA1
@magurakurin: A to the Men. There’s actually a positive to the ritual for some of us. The connection you feel to the resulting coffee, having ground the beans yourself, waited for the water to heat up for 120 seconds, watched the first pour over bloom up and release that acidic edge, etc. is more than worth a couple minutes. Not to mention the shit quality of any coffee that was cheap and undistinguished to start with, harvested last year and then ground months ago and stuffed into a little pod.
Granted, it’s all better than the crap options we all had for home brewing a generation ago, but I don’t know how anyone who actually enjoys the taste of coffee wouldn’t do pour over with good, fresh beans as long as circumstances don’t prevent it.
Gremcat
@JR: You are probably right, but their arguments make sense. That they should raise taxes on people like them to pay for roads and schools. That the extra money they get wouldn’t be used to start new businesses but be merely be saved instead. However, since they are liberals and progressives, I’m sure the letter will be ignored by this congress.
different-church-lady
So for (a) all you folks who always suspected there was something deliberately creepy about Facebook and (b) all you other folks who think “it’s just a neutral tool and you get what you make of it”: here’s the founding president of Facebook in effect copping to pulling the same shit that cigarette manufacturers did, only doing it inside your brain:
Sean Parker unloads on Facebook “exploiting” human psychology
bemused
Speaking of coffee, our favorite coffee travel mugs for the car have finally worn out, the Thermos Nissan mug with handle, spillproof, kept hot and cold for hours and fit in cup holders. I should have bought new mugs sooner but waited too long and now they are not long available. I am very frustrated finding coffee mugs that are spillproof, fit in cup holders and have handles. Handles much easier to grab and sip while driving. Dammit.
Heidi Mom
@Spanky: Yes!!!
schrodingers_cat
@different-church-lady: We can high five each other for not being a part of the Faceborg.
ETA: I have just found the concept eerie from the get go. I resisted even after a lot of prodding from friends and relatives around the globe.
Immanentize
@OzarkHillbilly: It is kinda fun to see you out cynicalled by GOP reality.
O. Felix Culpa
@Quinerly:
Oh golly, I forgot all about her. So much has happened since then.
different-church-lady
@schrodingers_cat:
Somehow I could sense the exploitation before even trying it, based on what other people were saying about it. My every interaction with FB just confirmed what I was thinking — it not creepy by accident, it’s creepy because it’s designed to manipulate.
different-church-lady
@Quinerly: Peak Wingnut is a lie.
gbbalto
Keurig machines at the office avoid issues with the drip machines – the almost-empty pot that lingers because everyone is too lazy to dump it and make a new pot, the burnt out pot, and other issues. However, as noted in a WaPo article, they cannot make really good coffee because the water is not hot enough and the retention time in the coffee grounds is too short. The commercially packed cups that I have tried produce lousy results, with the single exception of Gevalia. The DIY cups with good quality coffee do make a drinkable brew. That said, I am switching to a French press at the office.
different-church-lady
@gbbalto: Offices have bio-based social concerns that override all attempts at technological solutions.
Tenar Arha
@Kay: I found out over the High Holidays that one of the necklaces that my mother left me has reached the point of not being wearable because of “too tiny clasp” for me. Thanks for the reminder!
Brachiator
@Kay:
This totally makes sense.
Steve in the ATL
@Immanentize:
You have worked in law firms, right?
Chip Daniels
@Kay:
As much as I would love to lay predation at the feet of conservatives or evangelicals, I think its more helpful to confront the fact that it is much deeper and widespread.
Wherever you have men in power (which is everywhere) we have reports of sexual predation.
Conservative men, liberal men; religious men, secular men; men in the business world, in politics, in education, and in civic organizations.
I think placing this in the context of the culture war or partisan battles allows an endless game of whataboutism and defensive circles.
The problem is that we consistently fail to police those in positions of power.
The Moar You Know
@hueyplong: I laughed when I read this. There will never be a lawsuit and both Moore and the Post know it. As you note…discovery. This is for the consumption of the rubes.
Bobby Thomson
Haven’t gone through all the comments, but Keurig treats the coffee maker like a loss leader. The real money is in the pods. In other words, these people are assholes and cutting their noses off, but it’s not completely illogical.
Brachiator
@MCA1:
I love coffee (before I had to cut back dramatically for health reasons). I have never enjoyed making coffee. Never. The only connection I have to coffee is when it’s in my belly.
Barbara
@Steve in the ATL: What you are implying used to be the norm. It isn’t anymore.
Aleta
@David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch:
I dislike them myself.
But if someone has strong tremors, it’s harder to make coffee, handle boiling water or pour. Or useful for vision impairment.
Also, if a person depends on others to do a lot of things they’d prefer to do themselves, I imagine you’d want to at least be in control of your own coffee consumption.
Aleta
@Baud: Cancelled but they’re working until Nov 30.
KS in MA
Just sent a few bucks to Doug Jones.
schrodingers_cat
@Chip Daniels: But the god bothering hypocrisy of the religious, makes their acts even more despicable, IMHO.
Elizabelle
Good morning all.
Gonna brew some coffee the old fashioned Mr. Coffee way, and catch up with your comments.
realtor.com dropped advertising on Hannity’s show too. Maybe it will become habit-forming.
Doug R
@Kay: Wow. Hitting $50-200,000 earners, he REALLY does HATE his rubes, don’t he?
But seeing that’s mostly middle management I’m feeling like Nelson right now.
Barbara
@Chip Daniels: Abuse of patriarchal power can be found across the political spectrum. No disagreement there. For those whose politics are progressive, the hypocrisy lies in exercising a kind of power that one affirmatively disavows in a political sense: agreeing with feminist goals, disagreeing that patriarchy is fair. For those whose politics are not progressive, the hypocrisy lies in betraying a different set of principles that revolve around sexual fidelity, not gender equality.
But the reaction to these betrayals by the two groups could not be more different, at least now:
Anthony Wiener has lost everything. Harvey Weinstein, Eliot Spitzer and John Edwards are not far behind. I believe that if Bill Clinton were running for office today, he would face a far more searching standard. For all that, only Wiener, and not the others, was associated with teenagers, or any woman under the age of consent.
Whereas, Roy Moore, David Vitter, etc. hung tough and continue to receive robust political support. As did Newt Gingrich and a plethora of other Republican politicians. Some have resigned. Let’s just say that the reaction has been a lot more varied, and smacks of political opportunism as much as it does of moral indignation.
And, of course, Moore’s whole reason for being in politics is to excoriate us liberals for our Godless, sexually libertine ways. He and his supporters might believe that his own failures are no biggie because he has repented (umm, not really) but the rest of us just see flaming hypocrisy.
Aleta
@The Moar You Know: That would mean Moore is capable of learning from Trump and Cosby; but he’s already gone and called the women liars. Former DA? There must be some shoddy work in his past record cause he doesn’t seem like the thinking kind.
different-church-lady
@Aleta:
That’s what he learned from Trump and Cosby.
Steve in the ATL
@Barbara: to be fair to Imm, that is an obscene markup
Elie
@schrodingers_cat:
I agree. If people don’t like them don’t use ‘em. Not a big deal but some folks start to sound authoritarian and shit about THEIR view What? We need coffee police now?
SFAW
@Elizabelle:
Maybe the Hannity morons will smash their houses up — that’ll show them Lie-beral realtors! You libtards won’t make any profit from MY house!
If it weren’t the case that their moronitude is in danger of destroying America via Shitgibbon, this would be popcorn-worthy.
Chip Daniels
@Barbara:
No disagreement.
The liberal reaction to Weinstein and Spacey is gratifying, and reflects well on us.
But the next scandal may very likely be a beloved liberal icon with real power over everyday American, and we have to be ready to suck it up and demand a scalp.
Even if it results in a Republican win.
That’s the hard part- which is worse: Condoning and enabling predatory behavior, or handing political power to a RWNJ?
Barbara
@Chip Daniels: Although not sexual in nature, you don’t have to look far to find that looming scenario: Bob Menendez. How I wish he had not run the last time. It’s not clear he will be convicted, the jury seems to be taking quite a while, and he is so recalcitrant I do not expect him to resign, so it looks increasingly likely that if he is replaced by an appointment, it will not occur before Chris Christie has exited stage right to the political oblivion he so clearly deserves.
JAFD
I should be drinking more coffee. The Mayo Clinic websites sez there’s some evidence that coffee lessens gout attacks, which is A Consummation Devoutly To Be Wished.
Have been meaning to make trip to Philly, meet up with foodie friends, spend afternoon wandering Italian Market, get Aeropress from Fante’s (probably along with lotsa other kitchengadgets), but plans have not yet come together. darn.
Anyway (to plug neighborhood biz), has anyone ever tried T.M. Ward Coffee ? – tmwardcoffee.com If so, your opinion is sought.
Jay C
@Chip Daniels:
Very hard. Not least because a variant of this argument has become the go-to talking-point for a non-trivial number of Roy Moore’s voting base: i.e., “he may be a creep/pedophile, but Democrats are worse“. It’s a terrible commentary on what politics has devolved into in this country: but it can’t be ignored.
Brachiator
@Chip Daniels:
How is this even a question?
Jay C
@Barbara:
Re Menendez: he has already said (IIRC) that he will appeal a conviction on his corruption charges, so there’s that. I think Senate Democrats have already said that they’ll boot him out of the caucus (at least) if convicted: I’m guessing that they wouldn’t balk at voting to toss him out of the Senate completely. Christie will be gone after 1/16/18 (?) so at least the new Dem Governor will have the chance to name any replacement.
In any case, New Jersey has a law that any Senate vacancy has to be filled by an appointed replacement until a special election is held (?? 90 days??), then the seat is up again at the next general election for the rest of the original term (how Cory Booker came be to NJ’s other Senator) Menendez’s term would end next year in any case.
different-church-lady
@Chip Daniels: I doubt Elizabeth Warren sexually abused anyone.
different-church-lady
@Chip Daniels: Hello? ANTHONY WEINER?!?
dogwood
@different-church-lady:
What’s your point? I doubt Susan Collins sexually abused anyone either.
different-church-lady
@dogwood: lousy attempt at humor.
dogwood
@different-church-lady:
I should have seen it as humor. I’m just getting nervous that dems are gonna start finding excuses for our own predators.
Citizen Alan
@Chip Daniels:
I would replace the word “men” with “people.” The issue is really about the fact that when one person’s power over another increases while their accountability decreases, abuse of some kind is more likely to result. Granted, it is generally far easier for a man to reach that level of authority over a woman than vice versa, but there have been too many female teachers having affairs with junior high boys to say it never happens the other way.
Gelfling 545
@Tarragon: In his mug shot he appears to be a good deal worse for an excess of adult beverages.
a thousand flouncing lurkers (was fidelio)
@magurakurin: For my mother, it’s the risk of wrestling with a kettle of boiling water–her hands have become weak because of arthritis. This is why she likes her small-serving coffee maker, as opposed to things like a French press or those filter holders that perch on top of a cup. Keurig has the same advantage–everything is fairly light-weight and there are fewer risks for those with decreased grip strength or hand tremors.
Uncle Cosmo
@magurakurin: Not trying to be a jerk, only saying that if you choose to make your coffee with fresh-ground beans, you can do it one cup at a time with a Keurig plus a refillable & reusable pod – & I’ve seen those in 2- and 3-packs at dollar stores. Wash it out each use. If you’re a real purist, spring for one for each variety of coffee you use.
Uncle Cosmo
@Ceci n est pas mon nym: I love French presses, but you have to be careful. Some years back I had a friend over for dessert & coffee, & after serving the pastries placed the press on the table & pressed down –
& it exploded. Glass chunks & steaming brown liquid everywhere. (Way to impress a date…)
Water is incompressible, & it only makes sense to push the plunger down verrrrry gradually – & stop if there’s too much resistance & remove it & brush out the filtering disk.
Uncle Cosmo
@Barbara: Your MiL? Helzbelz, I make a full pot of coffee & drink it over the next 2-3 days. Store it in a thermal carafe, or let it cool & put it in a bottle in the fridge. One of the few things at which the humble kitchen-nuke truly excels is reheating coffee by the cup without burning it.
Uncle Cosmo
@dr. luba: Decades ago, not long after the Mr Coffee machines came out, I saw Father Guido Sarducci on some late night show demonstrating his new invention: Mr Tea! Consisting, IIRC, of a Mr Coffee (brand name blanked out) with no filter in the basket & a cup underneath with a teabag in it…
It was parody, people! PARODY!!! Jeebus schlepped…/facepalm