Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

Their freedom requires your slavery.

If you can’t control your emotions, someone else will.

If you thought you’d already seen people saying the stupidest things possible on the internet, prepare yourselves.

“woke” is the new caravan.

We need to vote them all out and restore sane Democratic government.

“When somebody takes the time to draw up a playbook, they’re gonna use it.”

Mediocre white men think RFK Jr’s pathetic midlife crisis is inspirational. The bar is set so low for them, it’s subterranean.

You cannot shame the shameless.

A fool as well as an oath-breaker.

Fight for a just cause, love your fellow man, live a good life.

I’d hate to be the candidate who lost to this guy.

We can’t confuse what’s necessary to win elections with the policies that we want to implement when we do.

the 10% who apparently lack object permanence

Donald Trump found guilty as fuck – May 30, 2024!

“Can i answer the question? No you can not!”

Stamping your little feets and demanding that they see how important you are? Not working anymore.

This year has been the longest three days of putin’s life.

Is it negotiation when the other party actually wants to shoot the hostage?

Disagreements are healthy; personal attacks are not.

You are so fucked. Still, I wish you the best of luck.

Boeing: repeatedly making the case for high speed rail.

Republicans do not trust women.

Consistently wrong since 2002

We still have time to mess this up!

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  9. 9.

    Tony Jay

    Holy hell: Hope Hick’s email accounts – both the one she used as part of the Trump campaign and her personal account – were hacked!

    Lawyer – “Hope, they can supoena everything. Including all of your e-mail accounts.”

    Hicks – “…………”

    Lawyer – “Okay, so here’s our story. Hackers got in and planted fake messages, but you couldn’t know that because you were locked out….”

  11. 11.

    OzarkHillbilly

    @?BillinGlendaleCA: Gagging his campaign workers (NDAs of course)and hunkering down behind locked doors covered in black plastic. I haven’t been able to keep up with the Jeff City goings on. A script on the STL Post Disgrace’s web page bogs down the new laptop and locks everything up. The SU is gonna install a new ad-blocker this wkend and hopefully that will fix it.

    ETA: My bad. The committee that is investigating Gov Bondage is hiding behind locked doors. I assume they have signed an NDA with the Gov.

  13. 13.

    raven

    I don’t like Turley but he just said the Trumpers are saying “If I close my eyes they won’t see me”!

  15. 15.

    Mustang Bobby

    Frankly amazed here at the Florida legislature passing the gun laws. Yeah, they left out the assault weapons ban and kept the Arm the Lunch Lady provision, but in a state that Betty Cracker rightly calls the Gunshine State, that’s progress.

    A lot of credit goes to the kids at MSD. They did good, but it came at such an awful cost.

  19. 19.

    OzarkHillbilly

    “I can share that the arbitration was won in the president’s favour, and I would refer you to the president’s outside counsel on any details beyond that.”

    But he did NOT enter into an agreement with that woman because he NEVER had sex with her and he NEVER paid her a single dime. Also, I have some prime Florida beach front property for sale. Anybody interested?

  21. 21.

    p.a.

    Good morning. Remember when the CW was that the Brits had more interesting scandals than us? Good times…

  23. 23.

    different-church-lady

    This is no country for creepy old men.

    Well, not any more, at least…

  24. 24.

    different-church-lady

    @WereBear: Any evidence for this assertion? I gotta believe a lot of them are overtly proud he bangs pornstars.

  25. 25.

    Amir Khalid

    “This is no country for creepy old men.”

    The Democratic party and its candidates this year shoud quote this line at every opportunity. At the very least, it should be added to the tag rotation here.

  26. 26.

    different-church-lady

    @Amir Khalid:

    The Democratic party and its candidates this year shoud quote this line at every opportunity.

    Saying, of course, we don’t have any creepy old men running.

  29. 29.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    @Baud: This one’s looking further out, 70-100 miles as opposed to 50. It also would have better if I’d been up there earlier, the sun was a bit of a problem. As I said, it’s a work in progress.

  30. 30.

    WereBear

    @different-church-lady: Any evidence for this assertion? I gotta believe a lot of them are overtly proud he bangs pornstars.

    If so, they sure aren’t saying so publicly. The local fans who were loud and proud before are getting quieter and quieter. Because if they say anything, there’s so much ammunition to bring up in response that embarasses them.

    Because we don’t live in high up filthy-rich Republican circles. They’ve exposed themselves as things that were hidden before; things the community, thank goodness, disapproves of.

    My town didn’t go for Trump as a whole. Which is something to cling to these days.

  34. 34.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    @Baud: Yeah, there were alot more details since it was much closer. I think Downtown is twice the distance in this one. I was really stunned how far i could see in this one; Palomar Mountain, and San Clemente island are visible.

    @rikyrah: The clouds turned out nice.

  35. 35.

    MattF

    OT. The NYT has an ‘interesting’ front page article on women who didn’t get NYT obituaries. Two of them are Diane Arbus and Sylvia Plath. Unbefuckinglieveable.

    I’ll just note that Arbus is my candidate for greatest 20th century photographer. And Sylvia Plath…

  40. 40.

    OzarkHillbilly

    Just shoot me:

    Lying in bed about to fall asleep when Alexa on my Amazon Echo Dot lets out a very loud and creepy laugh… there’s a good chance I get murdered tonight.

    Saw an article yesterday, about people attacking driverless cars and sabotaging robots. They are my heroes.

  43. 43.

    Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes

    I got a great campaign ad:

    John Kennedy, Wayne Hays, Gary Hart, Bill Clinton and John Edwards didn’t have to pay for sex.

    Donald Trump does and has done so for years.

  46. 46.

    OzarkHillbilly

    @debbie: NOT TRUE NOT TRUE!!! He hires only the BEST of the BESTEST people! Or maybe, birds of a feather flock together? Stupid is as stupid does?

  47. 47.

    WereBear

    @debbie: Blows. My. Mind.

    Mr. and Mrs. “we are oh so moral you godless liberal scum” are now all, “he was chosen by god, who can use a flawed instrument” pivot.

    I guess once you justify cannibalism, torture, and murder, it gets really easy.

  49. 49.

    OzarkHillbilly

    @Baud: @debbie: What I don’t get, really don’t get, is why on dog’s green earth would you program it to laugh to begin with? What possible fucking reason would there be for that?

  50. 50.

    Baud

    @WereBear:

    Mr. and Mrs. “we are oh so moral you godless liberal scum” are now all, “he was chosen by god, who can use a flawed instrument” pivot.

    To be honest, I respect that more than, “I can’t vote for her, she said ‘superpredator’ once.”

  55. 55.

    satby

    @rikyrah: Good morning ?!

    I’m so out of fucks to give about the state of this country. I’m just hanging on by my fingernails until November.

  58. 58.

    debbie

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    Can you be sure Alexa was programmed to laugh? Amazon doesn’t seem to be reacting like it was a program error.

    I miss the halcyon days of innocuous Easter eggs, like QuarkXpress’s textbox-destroying alien.

  61. 61.

    OzarkHillbilly

    @debbie: The article I read says it is:

    After the publication of this article, Amazon announced a fix and apparent explanation for the ghostly laughter. The company suggested in an email that the laughs had occurred “in rare circumstances” because the speaker was picking up a “false positive” for the command “Alexa, laugh”.

    Amazon will change the command for laughter to “Alexa, can you laugh?” and disable the shorter command. It will also program Alexa to preface its simulacrum of human emotion with the phrase: “Sure, I can laugh.”

  62. 62.

    Patricia Kayden

    @?BillinGlendaleCA: And also because he was a Democrat. The MSM bends over backwards to not appear liberal so they constantly give Republicans the benefit of the doubt. They can barely bring themselves to call Trump a liar and a racist even though he has given them every indication that he is such.

  63. 63.

    Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes

    @WereBear:

    If you’ve ever noticed, God always commands exactly what the utterer wants to happen.

  64. 64.

    WereBear

    @OzarkHillbilly: What it all boils down to, does it not?

    Because there are plenty of Christians who read the same book and get the total opposite from it. I’m not Christian at all (SBC trauma) but I admire people like Blue Gal (Professional Left Podcast) who is.

    So the jerks have no excuse except that they want to be that way.

  68. 68.

    Patricia Kayden

    @Tony Jay: Remember when Republicans were hyper concerned about email servers? I do. That seems like such a long time ago.

  69. 69.

    JWR

    Hmm. From the above linked NBC report…

    Hicks indicated that she could no longer access two accounts: one she used as a member of President Donald Trump’s campaign team and the other a personal account,

    Shades of the infamous 18-1/2 minute gap? Is Hicks today’s Rose Mary Woods?

  70. 70.

    PVDMichael

    The Daniels DNA covered discussions about “paternity”. I don’t know much about NDAs with adult film stars, so I don’t know if that’s boilerplate (Couldn’t find the form on Legal Zoom).

    But is there a possibility this is about abortion and not an affair?

    It would be irresponsible not to speculate.

  71. 71.

    OzarkHillbilly

    @WereBear: God is speaking to them. Either that or they’re just having another acid flashback. But yeah, there are more than a few good Christians out there. Unfortunately, nothing they say is “news”.

    @JR: Can you be sure this isn’t Skynet?

    @Baud: Heh.

  73. 73.

    Elizabelle

    @Patricia Kayden: The MSM takes a lot of blame for the spread of fake news. Their ridiculous insistence on “balance”, rather than accuracy and truth, turned a lot of people cynical. Recall: we could watch a full speech by Obama or Hillary on MSNBC, and there was Andrea Fucking Greenspan on immediately after, giving a recap of her talking points which did not fit the speech we just heard and saw, with our own ears and eyes.

    This morning, I started watching Univision, and will probably stick with it. Very little Trump, and a lot of style and splash. I don’t understand most of the language, but can pick out some.

    Besides — they had a video of a husky dog that sings along to tango music — I think Astor Piazzolla; heavy on the accordion. Do you get that with USA MSM? I rest my case.

    (Plus a great segment on Wrinkle in Time; Ava Duvernay interview in English, with Spanish subtitles; that was muy helpful.)

  75. 75.

    Mike in DC

    @PVDMichael:
    The rumors out there are that Trump has paid for one or more mistresses’ abortions. Which would strain the “flawed instrument” defense past the breaking point.

  76. 76.

    Elizabelle

    Now Univision is covering the snowscape that is New Jersey. Drivers trapped in their cars.

    And they spell a neighboring state Pensilvania. And now: Stormy Daniels! Actriz Porno!

  77. 77.

    Gin & Tonic

    So after having lost power before 10:00 pm last night, and resigned to it being out for days, it came back on at about 2:30. Cat looked at me with surprise on her face, since a couple of lights and the TV in the bedroom came on. I can’t explain the restoration – I’m pretty sure the line crews weren’t working in the middle of the night in a snowstorm. Anyway, glad to wake up in a warm house. But shoveling the snow is like shoveling wet concrete.

  78. 78.

    Baud

    @Elizabelle:

    they had a video of a husky dog that sings along to tango music

    ¡Ay caramba!

    I’m learning Spanish so maybe I’ll make the switch one day.

  89. 89.

    Kayla Rudbek

    Since this is an open thread, Mattel is coming out with a Katherine Johnson Barbie doll here My only problem is trying to decide whether to order just one or to order several and donate them to our NSBE chapter, etc

  90. 90.

    OzarkHillbilly

    @Gin & Tonic:

    I’m pretty sure the line crews weren’t working in the middle of the night in a snowstorm.

    You can be sure they are out there working in the middle of the night in a snowstorm. It’s what they do. Chances are your outage was at a substation or similarly major component. They do arbitrage on outages. “Which work will do the most good fastest?”

  91. 91.

    HeleninEire

    WOO HOO. Booked a trip to NYC yesterday for the last week of May. A friend here is going to NYC in September and all his questions and plans made me a bit homesick. Only 5 days. Once I get it out of my system, I’ll be longing to return.

  92. 92.

    Elizabelle

    @Baud: Spanish will be muy helpful when we are extradited or just plain flee.

    @?BillinGlendaleCA: You have my respect for learning an Asian language. Exponentially harder, I am sure, than German, which looked (and sounded) quite daunting. (Even though same alphabet, and one could figure out some of the names and business terms.)

  93. 93.

    Gin & Tonic

    I hear the plow. I already cleared the mouth of the driveway. If he piles up snow there again I’m going to be really pissed off.

  98. 98.

    MattF

    @OzarkHillbilly: My bet is that it’s a non-innocuous Easter egg. Just imagine all the places and all the ways that an unhappy Amazonian code monkey could hide a bit of code and data that does that. Bear in mind that Alexa is connected to Amazon’s servers and Amazon has a vast array of cloud servers.

  99. 99.

    What Have the Romans Ever Done for Us?

    @debbie: Spotty record of paying them. The good ones don’t risk working for free.

  100. 100.

    OzarkHillbilly

    @Gin & Tonic: Yes, they won’t do anything to get themselves killed, but they are out there and working. I had a neighbor who was a lineman. He used to do 18 hour shifts with 6 hrs for sleep at his headquarters then head out for another 18 hrs, all in some of the worst weather imaginable.

  106. 106.

    Lapassionara

    Good morning all. I am getting whiplash from following the jaw-dropping scandals. Too many to count.

    But, we sure dodged that “poor classified information handling practices” bullet by sending Hillary packing, didn’t we? ?

  107. 107.

    OzarkHillbilly

    @MattF: Me @OzarkHillbilly:

    @debbie: The article I read says it is:

    After the publication of this article, Amazon announced a fix and apparent explanation for the ghostly laughter. The company suggested in an email that the laughs had occurred “in rare circumstances” because the speaker was picking up a “false positive” for the command “Alexa, laugh”.

    Amazon will change the command for laughter to “Alexa, can you laugh?” and disable the shorter command. It will also program Alexa to preface its simulacrum of human emotion with the phrase: “Sure, I can laugh.”

    Don’t know anything about programing, so everything I say comes from articles about it. Could be wildly wrong or absolutely correct and I’d have no idea one way or the other.

  109. 109.

    germy

    @Gin & Tonic:

    I hear the plow. I already cleared the mouth of the driveway. If he piles up snow there again I’m going to be really pissed off.

    The speed limit on my street is 30mph.

    The plows speed by at about 50mph, throwing snow all over the sidewalk and pushing a wall of cement-like snow/slush into my driveway.

    Younger people would just assume “that’s the way it is” but it wasn’t always like this.

    I have a clear memory of looking out my parents’ front window. I must have been nine or ten years old. A snowplow drove slowly down our street. Kindly looking older man driving. He lifted his plow before passing each driveway, so as not to snow in the elderly or infirm. I was glad, because my job was to shovel the end of the driveway and the sidewalk. The plow driver took his time and did a great job.

    The clowns who drive the plows on my street now are reckless thugs who smash mailboxes and car mirrors. They rush through their duties and then sit for hours in the local stewarts, ogling women.

    And while I’m being an old fart here… last week, before the storms, a street sweeper drove up and down my street about six times. He kicked up clouds of dust. It was insane. With each pass, more clouds of ash and dust and dried dogshit filled the air. A woman walked by and I could hear her coughing.

    Again, I remember walking to elementary school in my youth, and a street sweeper would drive past me (I remember being fascinated with the trucks) and there was no dust. The sweeper shot a small stream of water over the brushes to damp down the dust, and the streets would actually be… clean. A little wet streak all along the curb where the truck had passed.

    What the fuck is wrong with these people nowadays.

    Okay, I’m done.

  110. 110.

    OzarkHillbilly

    Judge Keeps Correcting Kobach Lawyers On Trial Procedure Yes, only the BEST of the BESTEST lawyers:

    As Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach defends his state’s proof-of-citizenship voter registration law in court, his team is having some issues following trial procedure.
    On multiple occasions, U.S. District Judge Julie Robinson has interrupted questioning to walk Kobach and his crew of lawyers through the intricacies of moves such as admitting evidence and asking witnesses about previous depositions. Robinson, an appointee of President George W. Bush, has even instructed Kansas’ attorneys on the correct ways to phrase their questions.
    Rather than rely on the representation of the Kansas Attorney General’s office, Kobach has opted to represent himself, with the assistance of other attorneys in his office. They haven’t exactly given the impression of crack litigators.
    ………………….
    Robinson’s consternation came as Becker was cross-examining Donna Bucci, a challenger in the case. The judge knocked Becker for not laying the foundation for evidence before presenting it during the cross-examination.

    “Evidence 101 — not going to do it,” Robinson said. “We’re going to follow the rules of evidence.”
    ……………………..
    Robinson said that according to the rules, Becker could only use that document in order to impeach testimony Ahrens was now giving.

    “I am not just going to let you read the contents into the record,” Robinson said.

    These guys would embarrass the Keystone Kops.

  111. 111.

    OzarkHillbilly

    @raven: Crawford County Electric Co-OP. They serve several counties, not just Crawford.

    ETA I should add that at some point in our neighborliness he became a supervisor. I’m not sure if the was before or after our discussion(s?) of his hours or how it might affect them.

  112. 112.

    Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    Kobach is a racist ideologue with a law license, and hires the same for his team. Ideologues – left and right – don’t do well when doing nuts and bolts law work, because they never focused on it.

  116. 116.

    SFAW

    Reason # 483 re: why I stopped reading Joan “Always Clueless” Vennochi: the title of her blurping in today’s Boston Glob:

    “Taking a DNA test could solve at least one of Elizabeth Warren’s problems”

    Were the Glob still a left-leaning/liberal rag, I would be tempted to write a Letter to the Editor asking what, exactly, is Vennochi’s fucking problem with strong, accomplished women? Shannon O’Brien, Hitlary, Elizabeth Warren, others have all been targeted by Vennochi’s misogyny. She’s like MoDo (I think), but without the ability to turn a phrase.

  117. 117.

    different-church-lady

    @Baud:

    To be honest, I respect that more than, “I can’t vote for her, she said ‘superpredator’ once.”

    Right: the first one is just stupidity. The second one is gross and willful misuse of intelligence.

  121. 121.

    germy

    still waiting for that mountain of Beltway columns demanding to know how First Lady stays while she gets publicly humiliated by husband.

    Hillary was buried by them during the '90s

    — Eric Boehlert (@EricBoehlert) March 7, 2018

  122. 122.

    Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    You forgot domestic violence orders filed against them, will contests where they’re aggrieved over being disinherited and suits against them for mishandled relative estate money…

  124. 124.

    schrodingers_cat

    @Baud: Purity lefties are worse than RWNJs, because they are always acting contrary to their supposed goals. Benching themselves to maintain their purity enables the worst of the righties by letting them win elections.

  126. 126.

    different-church-lady

    @germy: They’re not coming because the press knows everybody realizes Melania’s designated role in their relationship is to be humiliated anyway.

  127. 127.

    Tony Jay

    @Patricia Kayden:

    Remember when Republicans were hyper concerned about email servers? I do. That seems like such a long time ago.

    But that was totally different. Those servers were being used to hide super-top-secret evidence about The Conspiracy. Hope Hicks’ e-mails, all of them, regardless of topic, are completely free of anything untoward and so don’t raise any concerns. Except for the ones that seem to contain evidence of treason, criminal conspiracy, sexualised flirting with men who may or may not be Chief Executives, etc. Those were all planted by hackers working for The Conspiracy and are actually compelling evidence that Republican concerns about those e-mail servers back in the day were well grounded and based on patriotic concerns.

    See?

  131. 131.

    Tony Jay

    @Jeffro: It’s the first thing that occured to me. She brings that up unprompted? She knows what’s in them and has been instructed to muddy the waters as much as she can so Fox News can be tagged in when their contents get leaked.

    Won’t convince anyone with a brain, but the target audience is The Base and The MSM soooo…….

  132. 132.

    Just One More Canuck

    @OzarkHillbilly: It’s more basic for me – I don’t get why anyone would want or need Alexa. Now excuse me – I have clouds to yell at

  135. 135.

    Schlemazel

    Nunbergs admission that the request was no big deal confirms my suspicion that his whole circus act was simply to bury the story about Putin picking Dump’s Sec of State. Those people are not very bright, they have no strategy only that single tactic, distract & delay. It worked like a charm as the SoS story got buried & the great unwashed remain ignorant to the extent of Putin’s control over the current White House.

  136. 136.

    Calouste

    @germy: The Daniels affair was before the first iPhone was even out, so at least we’re going to be spared pics from that.

  139. 139.

    Wild Cat

    @MattF: Not suprising. They didn’t find the word “Ms.” fit to print until forty years after it was coined.

  141. 141.

    VOR

    @Calouste: Cell phones had cameras even before the iPhone. I remember I had a Motorola Razr circa 2007 which kept taking pictures of the inside of my pocket.

  144. 144.

    les

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    The committee that is investigating Gov Bondage is hiding behind locked doors.

    C’mon, it’s only to protect the witnesses!! The republican chairman said so!!! The amazing part is another repub argued for open hearings, cause otherwise the plebes might figure out the white wash.

  145. 145.

    TenguPhule

    @schrodingers_cat:

    Purity lefties are worse than RWNJs, because they are always acting contrary to their supposed goals.

    RWNJ: That won’t do! Now, hold our beer and watch this!

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