Justice Ginsburg is the first female U.S. government official to lie in state at the Capitol.
VP Biden and Senator Harris are there, according to Rabbi Lauren Holtzblatt, who is officiating now. Open thread.
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Justice Ginsburg is the first female U.S. government official to lie in state at the Capitol.
VP Biden and Senator Harris are there, according to Rabbi Lauren Holtzblatt, who is officiating now. Open thread.
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Quinerly
I have been watching from the beginning. Quite beautiful.
The honor guard carrying her casket up the Capitol steps was amazing. Nancy and Chuck were at the top to greet her. ?
SiubhanDuinne
They said on MSNBC that only two Republicans are there — Steve Scalise, and a Congresswoman from Indiana whose name escapes me.
SiubhanDuinne
@Quinerly:
Yes, incredibly moving. There is a real beauty in that meticulous precision.
Betty Cracker
@SiubhanDuinne: Scalise? WHY?
germy
Somehow, Jon Karl won’t call that “another sign of the divisive nature of our politics” (the way he did when ABC News showed the “Vote him out!” footage last night).
TaMara (HFG)
@SiubhanDuinne: That sure tells us all anyone needs to know, doesn’t it?
SiubhanDuinne
@Betty Cracker:
Got me. But the fact there are only two Repubs there is telling, and insulting.
Elizabelle
@SiubhanDuinne: I’m fine with that. It did not dishonor John Lewis one bit that
trumpwas not one of his mourners.For RBG and EFG: Fuck ’em.
I liked the rabbi’s comment that dissents to improperly decided cases eventually become how Americans come to view the issues. Always fight, always dissent.
germy
Republicans can’t attend these services. They’re too busy screaming for help on Hannity’s show.
Elizabelle
We have the best lawmakers.
Increase their ranks. Do it for RBG, and EFG and all of us.
SiubhanDuinne
@Elizabelle:
I dunno. You’d think Mitch McFuckingConnell could have shown up with his fellow Congressional leaders. I understand most members of Congress weren’t invited b/c of social distancing, and may visit privately later on, but c’mon, man.
I really like that rabbi.
Quinerly
@SiubhanDuinne: you are watching with JoJo and me (JoJo is the only dog I have ever had who actively watches TV. He was transfixed on the casket, the steps, the “click click” of the honor guard).
I was coming back to the thread to say several Repugs invited, only 2 showed up.
Doesn’t Nancy look great? And, Joe… I have always thought he was a handsome man. ?
debbie
@SiubhanDuinne:
They’re afraid of getting booed like Trump did yesterday.
Quinerly
@Elizabelle: I am with you. Fuck the Repugs who didn’t show up. Fine with me.
I really enjoyed just reading Denyce Graves Wiki page.
Quinerly
@Elizabelle:
Just reading about your governor and his wife testing positive for Covid. Damn.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Betty Cracker:
Scalise is part of the minority leadership in the House, guess the Minority Leader couldn’t be bothered.
Almost Retired
I was looking for a list of the invitees, so that the Republicans can’t shriek that the guest list was politically lopsided. I really want to know who, on the Republican side, was invited and elected to skip out on honoring this brilliant and gracious woman. But, alas, my google skills are inadequate. Or maybe it’s just not public.
Quinerly
@Almost Retired: would be interesting to know. Chuck Todd commented that several were invited. That is was supposed to be bipartisan. I’ll try to find a list.
debbie
@Almost Retired:
NPR just reported that Pelosi said the Big Four (whatever that is) had been invited. I’m assuming McConnell and McCarthy, but I can’t figure out the other two. Scalise may have been one. That still leaves one person who didn’t show up.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@debbie: “Big Four” would be the House Speaker and Minority Leader and the Senate’s Majority and Minority Leaders.
debbie
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
Okay, so aside from McConnell, McCarthy’s the only no-show then. I assume Scalise was his stand-in.
Ceci n est pas mon nym
I had thoughts while watching this, which I won’t say very elegantly.
We don’t all live to see the end of the fight. RBG and John Lewis did not live to see the regime overturned, but they fought every day with all their heart. Others, like Al Franken and Hillary Clinton, were political casualties while they still had years of service to give us.
The women who started the Suffrage movement in 1848 in Seneca Falls died before seeing the fruits of their labors in 1920. African-Americans have been fighting for equality for 400 years and have seen progress made in millimeters undone over and over.
Yet they fought, and they fight, and they will fight.
We don’t know what the end of the fight will look like. We don’t know if we’ll personally see it.
Nevertheless, we persist.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@debbie: Kevin’s sock drawer needed organizing.
Omnes Omnibus
@Ceci n est pas mon nym:”And I’ve looked over. And I’ve seen the promised land. I may not get there with you. But I want you to know tonight, that we, as a people will get to the promised land. And I’m happy, tonight. I’m not worried about anything. I’m not fearing any man. Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord.”
Chris Johnson
@Omnes Omnibus:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4Xz7WV_qJs
Judy Garland, “Battle Hymn Of The Republic”, shortly after the assassination of John F. Kennedy.
Aleta
Guess they figured the so-called political “optics” were much more important than honoring the institution and the woman who represented it. To recognize her today after dishonoring her last week — omg their hypocrisy might be denounced on one TV show while another outlet was criticizing them for being near the casket of the justice who said
schrodingers_cat
@Ceci n est pas mon nym: That’s a lovely comment. I concur. We fight because we must.
Catherine D.
My niece just moved to Washington and walked over to the Supreme Court yesterday to pay her respects. Too late for the “vote him out” chants, though.
Betty Cracker
Justice Ginsburg’s husband Marty did all the cooking in the family and teamed up with other SCOTUS spouses to produce a cookbook. Here’s what the Ginsburgs had to say about that (NPR):
Within the last week or so, I read that when Marty Ginburg was dying, RBG’s clerks dropped by with food to keep the family fed and had to show RBG how to work the new fangled oven.
The Ginsburgs were also famous for trading off parenting duties to accommodate their careers at the early stages. Truly equal marriages are still somewhat rare in my neck of the woods.
opiejeanne
And fuck Ted Cruz for blocking the Senate resolution honoring her.
mad citizen
@SiubhanDuinne: There are two women in our (Indiana) delegation, both Republicans. I’m thinking it could be mine, Susan Brooks, who is retiring, so no campaign considerations. Also she was a U.S. Attorney. Nothing about RGB on her website, though.
debbie
@Betty Cracker:
I heard an anecdote this week where her son pleaded for his father, not his mother, to make him a snack.
mad citizen
Feb 20, 2016, from similar event for Scalia, per CNN: “In the afternoon, President Barack Obama and first lady Michelle Obama visited the court to honor Scalia. They were greeted by Chief Justice John Roberts and then met with members of Scalia’s family, including Army Lt. Col. Matthew Scalia, the late justice’s son, and his wife, Michelle, in the Solicitor General’s office.
The President and first lady stayed for roughly 25 minutes.”
(Obligatory) Sigh.
mrmoshpotato
@opiejeanne: What. The. Actual. Fuck?
Why? Why would you do that? It’s a resolution.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@opiejeanne: From Al Franken:
SiubhanDuinne
@Ceci n est pas mon nym:
I can argue with only one sentence of your comment:
Au contraire, the whole thing is elegant, eloquent, and profoundly true.
Omnes Omnibus
@mrmoshpotato: It was Ted Fucking Cruz, that’s why.
Ruckus
@germy:
Lindsey just doesn’t understand, we have been helping. We’ve been donating to Jamie Harrison. Oh wait he meant helping him…..Well we are helping – to throw his ass out.
SiubhanDuinne
@opiejeanne:
WHAT? Jesus Christ, really? Is there no bottom to their petty meanspiritedness? (Don’t bother to answer that; it’s a rhetorical question.)
SiubhanDuinne
@mad citizen:
I think that’s the name, yes. Thanks. Must admit I had never heard of her.
germy
@Ruckus:
I sensed a certain amount of… contempt… from Hannity. He’s trying to end his show while Lindsey babbles like a televangelist begging for donations. And Hannity smirks and says something about “maybe Rosie O’Donnell and Barbra Streisand…”
It’s like Hannity was repelled by Lindsey’s loser stench.
Ruckus
@mrmoshpotato:
It’s Ted Cruz. He doesn’t need a reason, he’s just that big an ass.
Ruckus
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
I understood TX sent him to DC to get him out of the state…..
mrmoshpotato
@Omnes Omnibus: True.
Gin & Tonic
@Ceci n est pas mon nym: History can move slowly. My grandfather was sent to the Gulag a half-century before the independent Ukraine he worked for came to pass. His son did not live to see it either. Yet now his great-grandson is an elected member of the Verkhovna Rada (i.e. Parliament.) I think my grandfather would view that as success.
Ruckus
@germy:
The only nice thing about any of the conservatives is that most of them don’t seem to like each other any more than we like them. It’s just that they just like hating others in the same amount.
Uncle Cosmo
@Ruckus: Three words: Back. Pfeifen. Gesicht.
opiejeanne
@mrmoshpotato: Because the Democrats added her dying wish, not to be replaced until after the election, to the resolution the Republicans had put forth.
The Moar You Know
@germy: Hannity’s just living his dream of bullying a gay man on national TV. The comments about O’Donnell and Streisand are the tell, as if you couldn’t tell already.
Graham is in a fight for everything this cycle. If he loses he’s going to get outed and worse. And he’ll have no friends, he sold everyone who might have felt a shred of sympathy for him out in 2017.
When he got a look at the kompromat package he should have told everyone to fuck right off and publish. One more term isn’t worth the rest of your life. He’d be in far better shape today for any sort of post-politics career than he is now.
Dupe1970
@Ruckus: We did.
Ruckus
@Dupe1970:
It’s understandable. Very, very understandable, but couldn’t one of the gun humpers just have accidentally pulled a Jack Ruby and done the world a favor? I can’t imagine anyone complaining. And plenty complained about who Ruby did in, we wanted answers. Do we need that from teddy?
mad citizen
@SiubhanDuinne: Because sadly Colbert never finished his 435- part Better Know a District series.
Wiki: “Better Know a District began as a “435-part series,” 435 being the number of United States Congressional districts; however, on November 29, 2005, Colbert banned California’s 50th District after his “friend” Randy “Duke” Cunningham, the 50th’s Representative, pled guilty to receiving over $2 million in bribes and resigned his seat. California’s 50th is now the lone member of the “Never Existed to Me” category, and the map showing the United States’ Congressional districts now looks as if the district does not even exist. This brought the series to a “434-part series”. After this, Texas’s 22nd congressional district was retired on April 4, 2006 when Tom DeLay announced that he planned to leave Congress. Texas’s 22nd was reinstated on June 8, 2006, with a fake interview in which video of DeLay in three previous interviews on other television networks was interspersed with questions from Colbert. The district was put back into retirement at the end of the segment.”
Brachiator
I almost want to say that this does not seem possible. It does not seem reasonable.
In any event, a suitable honor for Justice Ginsburg.
Another Scott
RIP Justice Ginsburg. You changed America for the better and were a great example for all of us.
In other news, BBC News:
It’s not how big we are, or how extraordinary our gifts, it’s what we decide to do with our lives.
Cheers,
Scott.