Time to phone John Hall.
I just got off the phone with Congressman John Hall’s office (NY-19). I assumed he would vote for HCR but he is undeclared. I gave money to elect Hall. His staff said I was one of only TWO calls in support of HCR, and the office has been flooded with calls opposing the bill. He will make up his mind on Sunday, but the staff member said calls are needed, and if I care about what happens we need to contact friends and family to call Hall’s office to voice support. I could hear the worry and fear in her voice.
If you have already called, send a fax as well. Faxes are as close as you can get to the gold standard of written letters, which take too long to arrive ever since the anthrax business.
The Grand Panjandrum
Tim, I take it you aren’t getting much lab work done today.
FreeAtLast
WTF??!!!
I worked to get him elected in 2006 even though he’s not in my district (he’s in a in a neighboring district). He’s gonna hear from me!
Tim F.
@The Grand Panjandrum: Trying to write a review at the moment. Paper for Science (cross fingers!) went out for collaborators to read two days ago so I’m slightly less frantic than usual.
aimai
I just got off the phone with Capuano’s local rep. Really sweet chat. She wants him to vote yes (and I take it that he is going to) and she told me that they keep a separate tally of in state/out state votes, and that Lynch is secretly “anti choice” and that’s the real reason for his “no” vote (while Mike is pro choice). She let me go with the cheery, whispered, information “and you know what? the nuns are calling in!” We agreed that we want the nuns to mail in rulers in support of the bill.
aimai
The Main Gauche of Mild Reason
Seems like the switchboard is overwhelmed right now….
Tazistan Jen
Good idea. I think I will fax a picture of me holding the sign I brought to visit Udall’s office. My three reps/sens are all on board, but if they are getting yelled at by teabaggers, I guess they need to hear from me one more time/
PeakVT
Parkinson’s disease hero speaks on health care reform.
FormerSwingVoter
I’m having difficulty getting through on the phones. Is there an easy way to fax them from my computer?
A quick search found this: http://faxzero.com/ – but I don’t know how legit it is.
cleek
given that i’m smack in the middle of NC, i’m so happy to have a reliably liberal rep: David Price.
Jules
I just heard on NPR that Rep. Peter DeFazio from Oregon has switched to no.
Jules
Oh and Lynch from Mass is a no.
WTH is the matter with these people?
patrick II
just called glenn nye of virginia’s second. He is “still reading the bill” and undecided. I told him his district share of the 45,000 deaths each year from poor health insurance comes to about 95 and there is nothing better he could do for his constituents than pass health care.
For anybody else in nye’s district — he is still on the fence.
jibeaux
@cleek:
You know, I had the misfortune of meeting the moron who challenged him last time and who was out trying to glad hand for votes this time saying that the dynamics were going to be very different this time around.
Delusional fuckwit, you’re talking about Chapel Hill and Durham.
Violet
@PeakVT:
Wow. Awesome. Thanks for the link. This needs to go viral. This guy is a real hero. Thanks to him for coming out to the rally and testifying in the face of all those cretins.
Kevin @ Political Amorality
Yes, let’s ignore the will of the majority of Americans. Support this unconstitutional bill and the unconstitutional technique to pass it! Go Amerika!
The Grand Panjandrum
@Jules: Pete has a history of last minute histrionics. He’ll vote yes on Sunday.
The Disgruntled Chemist
For anybody in MD-3, John Sarbanes is still undecided according to his Annapolis office. The staffer said they’re getting an even number of calls from each side.
aimai
I don’t think “unconstitutional” means “things Kevin doesn’t like.” It sort of has a technical meaning.
aimai
Tim F.
@Kevin @ Political Amorality: Cool! A real teabagger. Who wants to test whether he’s immune to logic?
Da Bomb
@Kevin @ Political Amorality: Why don’t you slither on back under the rock you crawled from under.
Ignorant twit.
Kevin @ Political Amorality
@Jules:
You should be asking what’s wrong with the bill, not the people who oppose it.
It will bankrupt America. Do you support that? Find me one legitimate number in the CBO scoring that wasn’t fabricated by accounting gimmicks.
Kevin @ Political Amorality
@Tim F.:
Go ahead…I’m all ears. Let’s hash this out so the public can see that your position is horribly incorrect.
FormerSwingVoter
@Kevin @ Political Amorality:
The Constitution clearly gives the federal government the ability to spend money and make laws, while the courts have established that deem-and-pass is completely Constitutional since a vote is required, and simply counted towards both bills.
Yet you still hold up a Constitution you have clearly never read in full as justification for blindly repeating what your radio tells you to.
Sir, you are a coward.
slag
@Kevin @ Political Amorality: I sure as hell wish we also would have ignored the will of the majority of Americans before we went to war in Iraq. Sometimes, the majority of Americans are just wrong. This is one of those times.
Belafon (formerly anonevent)
@Kevin @ Political Amorality: Don’t feed the troll, don’t feed the troll…
“Mom, Phineas and Ferb are trying to improve health care for Americans.”
zmulls
I called Sestak, Casey and Specter today. All of them are still giving out the “the [Senator/Representative] has always been very supportive of Health Care initiatives, but he will want to see the final bill before commiting, etc. etc.” line.
I emphasized to all offices that at this point, there will certainly be things in the bill that we will have to hold our noses about, and this is a necessary first step. I told them that I’d like *my* Pennsylvania [Senator/Representative] to not be one of the guys sitting in back waiting for the last minute, and I’d prefer him out in front helping convince people to get on board.
I always feel like I’m wasting my time. It’s not like I expect Sestak to really vote No…..
Fitzwili
If you are calling a district with conservative or catholic voters- mention the nuns to the staffer- every office I have called has responded favorably to the mention of the nun’s support.
slag
@Tim F.:
You might as well ask whether this glass of water I’m drinking is wet.
Tim F.
@Kevin @ Political Amorality: You already lost when you brought up the CBO conspiracy theories. Hard experience taught me not to bother with creationists, 9/11 troofers and conspiracy fans like you.
zmulls
There’s nothing in the Constitution that says you’re guaranteed to have water
Jules
@zmulls: That “but he will want to see the final bill before commiting” is just such a bunch of weasel word BS.
Chyron HR
@Kevin @ Political Amorality:
Wouldn’t it save time for you to tell us one number in the CBO scoring that WAS fabricated by accounting gimmicks?
Surely you already have proof of these gimmicks or you wouldn’t be saying it, right?
Belafon (formerly anonevent)
@Kevin @ Political Amorality: Wait, it saves money. The only reason reducing the cost of health care will bankrupt us is if the Republicans get back in charge and decide that all that money needs to be returned to the people in the form of tax cuts for the rich.
Neutron Flux
@Kevin @ Political Amorality:
Kevin @ Political Amorality
@FormerSwingVoter:
The constituion does not give the government the authority to create a health care insurance exchange, a public option, or anything else. Nor does it give the government the ability to mandate that all people buy a good or service.
The Supreme Court has said that “the exact text” must be approved by both houses of Congress and if not, the law violates article 1, section 7. It’s very clear:
http://www.politicalamorality.com/ahem-article-1-section-7
jeffreyw
@FormerSwingVoter: I’ve used that, it works great.
Kevin @ Political Amorality
@Chyron HR:
We can start with the 940 billion cost. Want to explain the 10 years of taxes for 6 years of benefits gimmick?
Violet
@Kevin @ Political Amorality:
Looks like he studied at the “Moran Skool for Spellyng.”
Xenos
@Kevin @ Political Amorality: It is a really tired complaint. After bitching about how the bill had to save money according to the CBO, now that the CBO supports the bill it is just proof that, in the words of McArblegarble the CBO has been “gamed” and is now meaningless.
So take this Kevin – If the bill does indeed cost money, that is OK because we are going to raise taxes on people just like you to pay for it. The we are going to laugh at you as we go out for our taxpayer funded gay abortions. Silly peasant!
jibeaux
Teabagger troll on the White House’s facebook feed was talking about how they are trying to “shove this up our a%$”. Between teabagging, ass-item-shoving and throat-item-ramming, do they have a single way of relating to anything other than homoerotic analogies? Are they going to start talking about how they need to take a wide stance against this?
Jeff
I called my congresscritter, Paul Tonko D-NY21, who is on the side of the angels on this one. and spoke to a very sweet staffer who said they’re getting a lot of calls. I told her to buck up, it’ll all be over in a couple of days– she laughed. I think a phone call like this can help a lot.
Kevin @ Political Amorality
@Neutron Flux:
Are you seriously that dense?
zmulls
@Jules
Yup. Very weaselly. So my message was, get out in front instead of bringing up the rear. I’m sure I was very effective. Not.
Xenos
@Kevin @ Political Amorality: So what? It is called paying for something. We could try irresponsible deficit spending like a bunch of republicans, but that would be acting like assholes.
Violet
@FormerSwingVoter:
I used MyFax for awhile and it worked great too. At the time they gave one month free. I eventually canceled the service and had a little problem with the online canceling, but when I called them their customer service guy took care of it without any problems. I think there was some computer glitch when I tried to cancel online.
jibeaux
Call congresscritters. Ignore trollcritters. Eyes on the prize. This blog is not “the public.” C’mon.
Chyron HR
@Kevin @ Political Amorality:
Okay, go for it. Show us the math that proves it won’t cost 940 billion. Actual math.
dmhlt
I have no idea if Table formatting HTML Code is supported – so I apologize in advance if this is just a waste of space.
But since I think it’s that important that we try – I’ll give it a go:
Name (State-District) Phone Address FAX
Rep. John Adler (D-NJ-3)
(202) 225-4765 The Honorable John Adler
1223 Longworth House Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20515-3003 (202) 225-0778
Rep. Jason Altmire (D-PA-4)
(202) 225-2565 The Honorable Jason Altmire
332 Cannon House Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20515-3804 (202) 226-2274
Rep. Michael Arcuri (D-NY-24)
(202) 225-3665 The Honorable Michael A. Arcuri
127 Cannon House Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20515-3224 (202) 225-1891
Rep. Brian Baird (D-WA-3)
(202) 225-3536 The Honorable Brian Baird
2350 Rayburn House Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20515-4703 (202) 225-3478
Rep. John Boccieri (D-OH-16)
(202) 225-3876 The Honorable John A. Boccieri
1516 Longworth House Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20515-3516 (202) 225-3059
Rep. Chris Carney (D-PA-10)
(202) 225-3731 The Honorable Christopher P. Carney
416 Cannon House Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20515-3810 (202) 225-9594
Rep. Travis Childers (D-MS-1)
(202) 225-4306 The Honorable Travis W. Childers
1708 Longworth House Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20515-2401 (202) 225-3549
Rep. Jerry Costello (D-IL-12)
(202) 225-5661 The Honorable Jerry F. Costello
2408 Rayburn House Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20515-1312 (202) 225-0285
Rep. Lincoln Davis (D-TN-4)
(202) 225.6831 The Honorable Lincoln Davis
410 Cannon House Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20515-4204 (202) 226-5172
Rep. Mike Doyle (D-PA-14)
(202) 225-2135 The Honorable Mike Doyle
401 Cannon House Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20515-3814 (202) 225-3084
Rep. Brad Ellsworth (D-IN-8)
(202) 225-4636 The Honorable Brad Ellsworth
513 Cannon House Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20515-1408 (202) 225-3284
Rep. Baron Hill (D-IN-9)
(202) 225-5315 The Honorable Baron Hill
223 Cannon House Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20515-1409 (202) 226-6866
Rep. Bart Gordon (D-TN-6)
(202) 225-4231 The Honorable Bart Gordon
2306 Rayburn House Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20515-4206 (202) 225-6887
Rep. Ann Kirkpatrick (D-AZ-1)
(202) 225-2315 The Honorable Ann Kirkpatrick
1123 Longworth House Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20515-0301 (202) 226-9739
Rep. Suzanne Kosmas (D-FL-24)
(202) 225-2706 The Honorable Suzanne Kosmas
238 Cannon House Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20515-0924 (202) 226-6299
Rep. Dan Maffei (D-NY-25)
(202) 225-3701 The Honorable Dan Maffei
1630 Longworth House Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20515-3225 (202) 225-4042
Rep. Jim Matheson (D-UT-2)
(202) 225-3011 The Honorable Jim Matheson
2434 Rayburn House Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20515-4402 (202) 225-5638
Rep. Alan Mollohan (D-WV-1)
(202) 225-4172 The Honorable Alan B. Mollohan
2302 Rayburn House Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20515-4801 (202) 225-7564
Rep. Scott Murphy (D-NY-20)
(202) 225-5614 The Honorable Scott Murphy
120 Cannon House Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20515-3220 (202) 225-1168
Rep. Glenn Nye (D-VA-2)
(202) 225-4215 The Honorable Glenn Nye
116 Cannon House Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20515-4602 (202) 225-4218
Rep. Bill Owens (D-NY-23)
(202) 225-4611 The Honorable Bill Owens
2366 Rayburn House Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20515-3223 (202) 226-0621
Rep. Earl Pomeroy (D-ND-At Large)
(202) 225-2611 The Honorable Earl Pomeroy
1501 Longworth House Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20515-3401 (202) 226-0893
Rep. Zack Space (D-OH-18)
(202) 225-6265 The Honorable Zack Space
315 Cannon House Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20515-3518 (202) 225-3394
Rep. John Tanner (D-TN-8)
(202) 225-4714 The Honorable John Tanner
1226 Longworth House Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20515-4208 (202) 225-1765
Rep. Harry Teague (D-NM-2)
(202) 225-2365 The Honorable Harry Teague
1007 Longworth House Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20515-3102 (202) 225-9599
Kevin @ Political Amorality
@Xenos:
So taxing people for 10 years and giving them benefits for 6 so you can make your bill appear deficit neutral is not a gimmick?
Ok, so what happens in the next 10 years when you have to give benefits for the full 10?
Want to stop hiding behind the smoke and mirrors and give a logical response?
Dannie22
Just called Marcia Fudge’s office. She’s still reviewing the amendments and is still undecided. I told the guy that if she didn’t vote for this bill, I would not vote for her. A lot of folks in her district are upset with her.
I’d like to know what kind of games she is playing. It’s her first term and she’s a nobody. She only got that seat because Stephanie Tubbs jones died.
Tim F.
People, do not let health care distract you from the real question.
WHERE IS THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE?
Flugelhorn
This dog will never hunt. Breath and effort are being squandered here.
Xenos
@Kevin @ Political Amorality:
No problem. As I stated earlier, we will raise taxes on assholes like you, and all will be peachy.
mr. whipple
That is so awesome. We’re gonna ram gay abortions down their throats!
The Dangerman
@jibeaux:
They’re one wetsuit short of a great Friday night.
Neutron Flux
@Kevin @ Political Amorality: Sure.
ETA But my spellchecker knows how to spell America.
Violet
@Dannie22:
Perhaps she just wants attention from the President? Everyone saw that Dennis K. got to ride in Air Force One. If they hold out, they up their chances of getting some one-on-one time with Obama.
Our elected Representatives are so ego-driven, it wouldn’t surprise me if this kind of thinking is behind some of their hedging.
gwangung
@Kevin @ Political Amorality: Stooopid ™.
I could puke a better argument than this.
Kevin @ Political Amorality
@Chyron HR:
The bill is front-loaded with taxes and back-loaded with spending. The CBO scored a 10 year bill that only showed 6 years of spending.
Second, the doc fix was left out and will be passed separately. Why? Because that would raise the cost over 1 trillion.
Third, no government entitlement program has ever come anywhere close to the 10 year cost estimate. Most are 50+% higher.
The list goes on and on.
tripletee
Oh dear. Kevin doesn’t believe the CBO. Anyone wanna bet that he wasn’t nearly as skeptical when the candy-and-flowers crowd was telling us how awesome and cheap Iraq would be? Anyone?
Yeah, didn’t think so.
dmhlt
Note to Self: Table formating code is NOT supported
Kevin @ Political Amorality
@gwangung:
Then do it, instead of talking about it. Or are you just copping out because you lack an intelligent response?
Figured.
jibeaux
@The Dangerman:
Saturday: tickle fights, saltiness.
Kevin @ Political Amorality
@tripletee:
The CBO has to score what’s put in front of them and what was put in front of them was a year long smoke and mirrors shell game to create an artificial cost estimate.
Do you think this just happened to come in at right under a trillion dollars by coincidence? Are you that naive?
Llelldorin
Kevin, you should really read the CBO report if you’re going to denounce it. They explicitly scored the second decade (albeit roughly, because it’s hard to extrapolate out that far).
It reduces the deficit by 1.2 trillion dollars over 20 years–the deficit reductions go up in the second 10 year period, not down.
Kevin @ Political Amorality
@Neutron Flux:
I was making fun of you idiot. Jesus Christ you’re stupid.
Chyron HR
@Kevin @ Political Amorality:
Yes, they did. Now prove that their score is inaccurate. With actual math. You have the math, right? Copy and paste. It’s that easy.
Or you can just whine that everything you don’t want to hear is a lie. I guess that would also be easy.
aimai
Holy Moley ignore the Trolly–CNN is reporting that Cao has gone from “no” to “maybe” after his personal talk with Obama yesterday.
This is retail politics done by a master hondler. Rahm should live so long. This and the friendly kiss on Marcy Kaptur’s cheek seem to have done more for wavering votes than you’d think possible. Hats off to Hawaii nice if Obama can flip two votes with kindness. I think there’s room in this political moment for both carrots and sticks, but the guy is really good with what he’s good with and it seems to be the carrots.
aimai
WereBear
If Troll was capable of self-reflection, Troll would ask themselves why they are dead set against Promoting the General Welfare.
That’s in the Preamble to the Constitution. It specifically tells the government they are supposed to do that.
Flugelhorn
@jibeaux:
I think that is the most intelligent thing I have heard in this thread. This is exactly the point. The people on this blog are so far down the rabbit hole and out of touch with the rest of the US. When you spend all of your time soaking in progressive marinade, you lose the flavor of the country as a whole.
Even if by some miracle this thing “passes” on Sunday, there is still a long road ahead. There will be further debate on “sidecar” packages and I imagine several constitutional challenges.
Kevin @ Political Amorality
@Llelldorin:
AHhhhhhhhhhhhhhh…you’re fucking dense.
They scored a bill that shows 10 years of taxes for 6 years of benefits and that double counted 500 billion in medicare savings TWICE. DO YOU NOT SEE HOW THAT MAY PRESENT A PROBLEM WITH CORRECT SCORING?????
Fuck me…no wonder this country is about to drive off a cliff. The ignorance on this site is mind blowing.
gwangung
@Kevin @ Political Amorality: You first.
Any argument that starts “The constituion does not give the government the authority to create a health care insurance exchange, a public option, or anything else. ” is a loser argument. It ignores jurisprudence over the last 3/4 of a century.
Try harder. Try to fit it into established court decisions.
Until, I’ll treat your arguments with the respect they deserve.
Neutron Flux
@Kevin @ Political Amorality: Sheez. Now I am embarrased. Why do you make fun of me?
Because I am dense?
Kevin @ Political Amorality
@gwangung:
Just because progressives like you have raped the Constitution with a misrepresentation of the general welfare clause and commerce clause doesn’t mean you’re right.
If you want to be Europe so much…GO THERE AND DON’T COME BACK.
Redshift
@Flugelhorn:
You mean like the one from our wingnut AG here in Virginia, who has declared that he’s definitely going to sue the federal government over it, but doesn’t have any idea on what grounds? Yeah, I expect there will be a bunch of those, since a bunch of states are governed by wingnuts.
This is one case where I could support “loser pays” for frivolous lawsuits, but only if Cuccinelli pays personally, not the VA taxpayers.
Jules
@Kevin @ Political Amorality:
Troll speaks:
blah blah blah wocka wocka wocka
jibeaux
@Flugelhorn:
Really, you liked that better than the “wide stance” thing, ’cause I was kind of thinking that would be a good distraction. Well, thanks. I actually borrowed it from the troll, who seems to think that feeding him is hashing it out for “the public”. Perhaps a streak of exhibitionism to the homoeroticism, with a hint of food pron….
Llelldorin
@Kevin @ Political Amorality:
Read the damned report–they score beyond the first 10 years, albeit roughly. In the second ten years the gap between the start of taxes and the start of benefits isn’t relevant.
I’ll admit, though, that it’s amusing to be called dense by someone who very obviously hasn’t bothered to read the report that he’s criticizing.
Kevin @ Political Amorality
Even the simple request that one of you dumbasses explain 10 years of taxes for 6 years of spending couldn’t get an intelligent, logical, or honest response.
Progressives are pathetic. Pass the bill and watch it get reversed by the Supreme Court. Then watch 1994 happen all over again.
You’re all an embarrassment to America.
4tehlulz
@Kevin @ Political Amorality: NO U
gwangung
@Kevin @ Political Amorality: Snicker, snicker. That’s all you got, ain’t it.
Besides, wrong continent. They also have government health care, though. Cheaper cost, better results.
Americans used to want to take the best from all systems. Now you refuse to admit anyone can do it better. Embarassing.
Tim F.
For god’s sake people, where is the birth certificate?!?
jibeaux
They resist the Ben-wa balls of Communism that the Domicrats seek to impose on them, they cry out after the whipping of Nancy Pelosi….
It’s not that hard, people.
John
Sarbanes? What is the deal with this ridiculous posturing. Who is he fooling? He’s obviously voting in favor, and I don’t understand what pretending otherwise accomplishes.
ETA: Fudge and DeFazio too, for that matter. All of those three are obviously going to vote in favor, and everybody knows it. I don’t understand what they think this kind of nonsense is going to accomplish.
Mike Kay
@Kevin @ Political Amorality: Did you freak out in 2003 when Bush pushed through a $1.2 trillion prescription drug plan, ALL of it unpaid for?
Violet
@aimai:
This is big news. Obama really is good at retail politics. Cao would be smart to vote yes. His district isn’t exactly conservative.
Genine
I just called Diana DeGette’s office and I, too, got the “she’s very supportive of health care but wants to read the bill carefully before deciding her vote, etc.” Yesterday, her office had more angry phone calls. Today is a mix. If you live in CO-1 district and support health care reform, give her a call.
Thanks!
PTDB
Cain
@Jules:
uh whut?!! Peter DeFazio is a fairly liberal and safe house seat. There should be no reason for him to vote no on health care reform. He’s known as a pretty good progressive so I’m not sure why he’s saying know. That said, David Wu from Oregon is leaning towards voting for the bill. They confirm that a lot of tea baggers have been calling them.
Maybe it is time for me to give Peter DeFazio a call…
cain
Violet
I wonder if people like Kevin have joined the Stop Medicare movement, since it’s soshulized medicine and all.
Genine
Btw, I LOVE how spending $940 billion over TEN years will bankrupt us, but spending $940 billion + in ONE year for blowing shit up won’t.
dr. bloor
@Tim F.:
Talk about an unnecessary diagnostic procedure.
jibeaux
The size of Obama’s package intimidates them.
Belafon (formerly anonevent)
@gwangung: And that’s the entire winger argument: Europe does it, so we can’t. If it’s happening in Europe it must be socialist, and therefore bad, because somehow, not getting socialist cooties is the goal, not continually trying to improve ourselves as a nation and make everyone’s lives the best possible.
Belafon (formerly anonevent)
@Violet: I had an old high school friend tell me that she thinks medicare needs to go away because of that whole self-reliance thing and all, while she collects a paycheck and get health care in the US Navy.
Violet
@Belafon (formerly anonevent):
Did you mention that little fact to her? Seems like everyone who is taking the government’s money has some sort of justification for it – “But I fought for my country – they owe me!” or “I’m old and I couldn’t get health insurance elsewhere!” or “I lost my job and I deserve unemployment!”
Doing without seems to be for everyone else.
Bobby Thomson
@dr. bloor: Win.
cleek
@Kevin @ Political Amorality:
i for one, always defer to pseudonymous internet dilettante trolls, especially when it comes to evaluating the cost of huge and complicated pieces of legislation.
after all, it’s a well-known fact that professional economists and analysts are terrible at dealing with numbers, and are notorious for doing things like double counting 500B items.
GReynoldsCT00
Chris Murphy from CT is now in the ‘yes’ column, just spoke with his office
martha
@Tim F.: It’s being hidden in a vault on Niihau by now…the native Hawaiians are protecting it…
CalD
I received an e-mail from the DSCC earlier today asking for a donation. The reply-to address was [email protected], so I sent them back this response:
celticdragonchick
@Kevin @ Political Amorality:
Thank you for demonstrating that personally in such vivid detail.
Unthinking and unreflexive political hackery is always amusing to watch.
tripletee
@Kevin @ Political Amorality:
Let’s say I’m building a house, and I have a set budget amount in mind. I spend a year doing research and removing/adjusting features to get the costs in line. (Needless to say, I will cut whatever else is necessary to keep the granite countertops in.) Then I go to the contractor and the quote I get is close to my budget. CONSPIRACY!!
The fact that the anti-HRC trolls are so droolingly stupid gives me hope that we might actually get this thing done.
CalD
Speaking of trolls, shouldn’t there be a lot more of them out by now? Whither the great right-wing troll herds of yesteryear?
John S.
How precious. The little troll things George W. Bush is still in office and anyone gives a rat’s ass about his faux-patriotic ultimatums.
The majority rules, elections have consequences, Obama is everyone’s president blah blah blah…if you don’t like America, GET OUT!
Yutsano
@Belafon (formerly anonevent): That is so WIN! I’m so glad I’m not at work otherwise I’d be getting stared at right now I’m laughing so hard.
Ouish
I’m delurking because, as it happens, John Hall is my representative. I had assumed he was a sure Yes, and I was sufficiently alarmed by this post to actually get up and make my first congressional phone call. While speaking to the staffer, I mentioned hearing that they’d been getting a lot of calls from HCR opponents, and he told that actually most of the calls they’ve been getting today have been in favor.
Go netroots!
Sarah in Brooklyn
i called my dad who lives in Woodstock and is very active poltically. he’ll get the word out and make some calls himself.