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Afternoon Open Thread

by WaterGirl|  December 11, 20251:45 pm| 102 Comments

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  1. 1.

    Old Dan and Little Ann

    December 11, 2025 at 1:50 pm

    I am currently in a PD with about 30 other educators.  The lady presenting just asked who has ever diagrammed a sentence.  I was the only one who raised a hand.  Get off my lawn!

  2. 2.

    Suzanne

    December 11, 2025 at 1:54 pm

    Today brought yet another episode of I Can’t Make it Bigger On The Inside Than It Is On The Outside. I feel like I’ve seen this show before!

    I blame HGTV.

  3. 3.

    TheOtherHank

    December 11, 2025 at 1:56 pm

    @Old Dan and Little Ann:

    I am currently in a PD with about 30 other educators.

    I was completely unaware that Police Departments were concerned about diagramming sentences. I guess you learn something new every day

  4. 4.

    SiubhanDuinne

    December 11, 2025 at 1:56 pm

    Does anyone remember a former* BJ commenter who made the most gorgeous hooked rugs? I don’t remember her nym at all; I think her name on her shop’s website was Donna Something. I recall she did a a rug of Christopher Robin and Pooh, and donated it to a children’s library. I’d like to get in touch with her and ask permission to use that image to illustrate a course I’m teaching. Can anyone give me a lead? Many TIA!

    *It’s possible, of course, that she is a devoted lurker, but I’m sure I haven’t seen her around for at least a few years.

  5. 5.

    Ealbert

    December 11, 2025 at 2:02 pm

    My mother was a teacher and she used to talk about diagramming sentences with her middle schoolers. But the school district I went to would teach grammar by starting alternating years of doing nothing and starting at the beginning, teaching us about nouns, verbs adverbs and adjectives. Any knowledge I have of grammar comes from being a voracious reader and knowing what “sounds” right.

  6. 6.

    Old School

    December 11, 2025 at 2:10 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: Looks like donnah

    Edit: Her website.

  7. 7.

    mrmoshpotato

    December 11, 2025 at 2:11 pm

    @Old Dan and Little Ann: PD?

  8. 8.

    Old Dan and Little Ann

    December 11, 2025 at 2:12 pm

    Deleted.

  9. 9.

    mrmoshpotato

    December 11, 2025 at 2:13 pm

    @Suzanne: Sounds work-related.

  10. 10.

    SiubhanDuinne

    December 11, 2025 at 2:13 pm

    @Old School:

    Bless you!! That’s the one! Many, many thanks.

  11. 11.

    Professor Bigfoot

    December 11, 2025 at 2:14 pm

    @TheOtherHank: I’m more concerned with why is the PD rounding up educators?

  12. 12.

    Omnes Omnibus

    December 11, 2025 at 2:14 pm

    In addition to diagramming sentences, does no one use read for context anymore?  Professional Development, maybe?

  13. 13.

    Old Dan and Little Ann

    December 11, 2025 at 2:15 pm

    @mrmoshpotato: Professional Development.

  14. 14.

    bbleh

    December 11, 2025 at 2:15 pm

    @Professor Bigfoot: you round up if it’s 0.5 or greater.

  15. 15.

    Baud

    December 11, 2025 at 2:15 pm

    Penile Dysfunction?

  16. 16.

    Professor Bigfoot

    December 11, 2025 at 2:15 pm

    @Old Dan and Little Ann:  Well, that’s a relief. ;^)

  17. 17.

    mrmoshpotato

    December 11, 2025 at 2:17 pm

    @Old Dan and Little Ann: ie. No School Day!  Woo hoo!

  18. 18.

    TheOtherHank

    December 11, 2025 at 2:17 pm

    @Professor Bigfoot:

    I’m more concerned with why is the PD rounding up educators?

    Well we don’t want any of those clever readers out there knowing things.

  19. 19.

    NotMax

    December 11, 2025 at 2:18 pm

    Omnes Omnibus

    I read B-J for protext.
    :)

  20. 20.

    Mr. Bemused Senior

    December 11, 2025 at 2:18 pm

    @Suzanne: you aren’t a Time Lord? I’m disappointed.😁

  21. 21.

    Baud

    December 11, 2025 at 2:18 pm

    Q: You voted for President Trump. Why did you vote for him? Minister: Because I was an idiot

    Lots of clips on Reddit today of Dems at hearings.

  22. 22.

    Mr. Bemused Senior

    December 11, 2025 at 2:19 pm

    @NotMax: I’m here for the photographs. Also snark.

  23. 23.

    Baud

    December 11, 2025 at 2:19 pm

    @Suzanne:

    Your real name isn’t MC Escher?

  24. 24.

    Old Dan and Little Ann

    December 11, 2025 at 2:21 pm

    Teachers, like Jackals, have their own secret language.

  25. 25.

    Belafon

    December 11, 2025 at 2:25 pm

    @Old Dan and Little Ann: We had to do that when I was a kid and I sucked at it and still do.

  26. 26.

    Harrison Wesley

    December 11, 2025 at 2:26 pm

    First they came for the educators; but because I couldn’t diagram sentences, I said nothing.

  27. 27.

    scav

    December 11, 2025 at 2:28 pm

    @TheOtherHank: Reading: A gateway drug to Higher Education.

     

    sic.

  28. 28.

    comrade scotts agenda of rage

    December 11, 2025 at 2:31 pm

    Former Senator Sinema on Fox & Friends Nazis saying,

    “this administration is doing a good job of telling the truth”

    “We’re actually using less water with AI data centers than in the past,”

    x.com/atrupar/status/1999135311998193786

    This is my shocked face.

  29. 29.

    Sister Golden Bear

    December 11, 2025 at 2:35 pm

    @Suzanne: Time to call The Doctor!

  30. 30.

    Belafon

    December 11, 2025 at 2:38 pm

    @Sister Golden Bear: Suzanne just needs to open the fob watch she’s carrying.

  31. 31.

    SiubhanDuinne

    December 11, 2025 at 2:42 pm

    @Harrison Wesley:

    I haven’t diagrammed a sentence in 70 years or more. Wonder if I still could. I was good at it, and enjoyed it, so maybe…?

  32. 32.

    Suzanne

    December 11, 2025 at 2:49 pm

    @Belafon: I need to open a can of whoop-ass.

  33. 33.

    Timill

    December 11, 2025 at 2:50 pm

    @Suzanne: The extra space is in the closet, but you need a left-handed blivet to open it…

  34. 34.

    Central Planning

    December 11, 2025 at 2:51 pm

    @Old Dan and Little Ann: How did you all end up in a Police Department? :P

  35. 35.

    Old Dan and Little Ann

    December 11, 2025 at 2:51 pm

    @mrmoshpotato: I never miss any days so it’s a nice break from the classroom. We even got out an hour early.

  36. 36.

    Harrison Wesley

    December 11, 2025 at 2:57 pm

    I remember diagramming sentences, but not how I did it. Of course, I’m 74 years old, so it’s been a while.

  37. 37.

    JaySinWA

    December 11, 2025 at 3:00 pm

    I remember diagramming sentences, but could never get beyond basics. I had no clause wits ETA so I had no plan of attack.

    ETA I did study computer language grammar and syntax. BNF anyone?

  38. 38.

    cain

    December 11, 2025 at 3:01 pm

    @Old Dan and Little Ann:

    My wife used to do PDs all the time and she was good at them! She did one for equity and inclusion. It was a gold standard.

  39. 39.

    trollhattan

    December 11, 2025 at 3:02 pm

    @TheOtherHank: ​
     
    “Is you taking notes of a criminal fucking conspiracy?”

  40. 40.

    zhena gogolia

    December 11, 2025 at 3:02 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: I used to love doing those, but I tried a few years ago and couldn’t remember how.

  41. 41.

    trollhattan

    December 11, 2025 at 3:03 pm

    @comrade scotts agenda of rage:

    “We’re actually using less water with AI data centers than in the past,”

    Uh…is that like Lincoln telling the nation that America has never lost a single astronaut in flight?

  42. 42.

    Melancholy Jaques

    December 11, 2025 at 3:04 pm

    @Old Dan and Little Ann:

    Retired last year and while I occasionally miss the classroom, how I do not miss PDs.

    I once had students diagram sentences in an AP English class. I was trying to get them to be more comfortable reading and writing complex sentences. They did two every day at the start of class. And I shit you not, they enjoyed it.

  43. 43.

    RevRick

    December 11, 2025 at 3:06 pm

    @JaySinWA: But you knew how to start a war!

  44. 44.

    Mr. Bemused Senior

    December 11, 2025 at 3:07 pm

    @Melancholy Jaques: a man of parts… of speech.

  45. 45.

    Josie

    December 11, 2025 at 3:07 pm

    @Old Dan and Little Ann: ​
     When I first taught, I taught freshman and sophomore English to students for whom English was a second language. I used diagramming as a way to teach them to write complete sentences. We didn’t do intricate stuff, just subject, verb, object, sort of thinking. It was very helpful to them.

  46. 46.

    RevRick

    December 11, 2025 at 3:07 pm

    @cain: I thought PDAs in school were frowned upon.

  47. 47.

    Geminid

    December 11, 2025 at 3:08 pm

    @comrade scotts agenda of rage: Evanston Mayor Daniel Biss keeps racking up endorsements for the IL-09 primary. Last week Illinois Attorney General Kwame Raoul gave Biss his endorsement. So did the Illinois AFL-CIO.

    And Rep. Pramila Jayapal delivered her personal endorsement:

        Daniel Biss is the kind of leader our movement needs: principled, thoughtful and rooted in community.

    I’m thrilled to endorse him and look forward to working alongside him in Congress.

  48. 48.

    Melancholy Jaques

    December 11, 2025 at 3:08 pm

    @comrade scotts agenda of rage:

    She is a total asshole, no doubt, and I’m sure FOX considers her a good “even the Democrat” stooge, but everyone on our team already knows what Sinema is all about.

  49. 49.

    Belafon

    December 11, 2025 at 3:08 pm

    @JaySinWA: Same. And I can write interpreters and byte code compilers, but parsing speech goes well beyond that.

  50. 50.

    BellyCat

    December 11, 2025 at 3:09 pm

    @Harrison Wesley: First they came for the educators; but because I couldn’t diagram sentences, I said nothing.

    You owe me a new keyboard!

  51. 51.

    Old Man Shadow

    December 11, 2025 at 3:09 pm

    Semi-regular Christmas reminder that: a.) Mary did know, and b.) the gospel involved a lot more social upheaval and justice for the poor and oppressed and a lot less “mumbo jumbo magic prayer support the oppressors and coddle the rich” bullshit.

    51 “He has done a mighty deed with his arm;
        he has dispersed the proud in the thoughts of their hearts.
    52 He has brought down rulers from their thrones,
        and has exalted the lowly.
    53 He has filled those who are hungry with good things,
        and those who are rich he has sent away empty-handed.”

  52. 52.

    RevRick

    December 11, 2025 at 3:13 pm

    @Old Man Shadow: In the Gospel of Luke, the Christ Child is welcomed by the stinky, dirty shepherds, the most marginal of people in society. In the Gospel of Matthew, he is met with political violence and oppression. And in all the Gospels the overarching context is always the empire and its ideology.

  53. 53.

    RevRick

    December 11, 2025 at 3:15 pm

    At 4 o’clock MrsRev and I will get shot. At CVS.

  54. 54.

    p.a

    December 11, 2025 at 3:15 pm

    Think it was 8th grade, about 1972, middle school english, book by or inspired by Noam Chomsky involved lots of sentence diagramming: descending “tree” structure.  Did not go over well.

  55. 55.

    Old Man Shadow

    December 11, 2025 at 3:19 pm

    @RevRick: Yeah. Sort of stunning just how much of a 180 it’s done in the years after.

  56. 56.

    Rachel Bakes

    December 11, 2025 at 3:20 pm

    @TheOtherHank: my thoughts exactly

  57. 57.

    trollhattan

    December 11, 2025 at 3:21 pm

    @RevRick: ​
    Remember to smile at the camera.

  58. 58.

    Karen Gail

    December 11, 2025 at 3:24 pm

    Not only do I remember diagraming sentences, remember the lecture about dangling participles; but have no clue what grade any of those things took place. Strong is memory of writing essay and having it returned, graded and marked up with red pencil and note at bottom. “See me after school.”

  59. 59.

    MisterForkbeard

    December 11, 2025 at 3:29 pm

    @Old Dan and Little Ann: Seriously? I’m not an educator and I did a ton of this.

    My 10 year old daughter was actually complaining about this last night

  60. 60.

    Gloria DryGarden

    December 11, 2025 at 3:29 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: all the folks in education work knew it was professional development. Other career tracks, too?

  61. 61.

    MisterForkbeard

    December 11, 2025 at 3:33 pm

    @Old School: Oh, some of those are gorgeous. Wish I’d heard about this earlier, because some of these would be great xmas gifts

  62. 62.

    RaflW

    December 11, 2025 at 3:35 pm

    @trollhattan: More like Delta airlines trying to say that their flight that crashed so dramatically in Toronto (DL 4819 – the flip-over one where everyone escaped alive) ‘landed on time.’

  63. 63.

    zhena gogolia

    December 11, 2025 at 3:36 pm

    @Gloria DryGarden: I’ve been in education for many years and I had no idea what PD meant.

  64. 64.

    Gloria DryGarden

    December 11, 2025 at 3:38 pm

    @Melancholy Jaques: if it would help me write better complex sentences, it might be worthwhile to look up how to do it again.
    forgotten even the terminology for sentence diagramming. Prepositional phrases, etc.

  65. 65.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    December 11, 2025 at 3:38 pm

    @TheOtherHank:

    I was completely unaware that Police Departments were concerned about diagramming sentences. I guess you learn something new every day

    Does knowing how to diagram help you to plant a lethal object on a subject.

  66. 66.

    Karen Gail

    December 11, 2025 at 3:38 pm

    So visitors are going to have to submit five years worth of social media screening; that is going to make sure that tourists stay away. I was thinking of all the “small” places that see international tourists that will fail. Lived 90 minutes away from Wisconsin Dells, it is a “small” tourist attraction; population is around 3,000 people. They depend on tourism to keep the town running, without tourism many of the small businesses that supply the basic needs will go out of business. People think no tourists means the casinos, resorts and attractions suffer; but everyone in town will suffer. Once again the interconnection between visible income, tourists, and invisible income workers will impact a few people first season but will having lasting impact on towns, cities that rely on tourism.

  67. 67.

    Gloria DryGarden

    December 11, 2025 at 3:39 pm

    @zhena gogolia: must be that the lingo varies by district, then. I rescind the word all, and replace it with many.

  68. 68.

    cain

    December 11, 2025 at 3:40 pm

    @RevRick: my wife got shot just now ! For her migraine. They will shoot for anything these days !

  69. 69.

    trollhattan

    December 11, 2025 at 3:43 pm

    @Karen Gail: ​
    My imaginary US of A reentry includes an imaginary conversation in which I respond “What social media?”

    Because I have none. Never have. Would the punk understand my “You mean My Space?” quip? I think not.

    An open Chrome tab to Balloon Juice would get me the boot I expect. “Who’s this ‘Betty Cracker’ and how do you know her?”

  70. 70.

    trollhattan

    December 11, 2025 at 3:45 pm

    Welp, buckle up.

    The Senate Thursday rejected plans from Republicans and Democrats to ease soaring health care costs, making it more likely many Californians face health insurance premiums that could double shortly. Covid-era credits for people with Obamacare-inspired health care policies will expire at the end of this month. That is likely to mean an increase averaging about 97% for Californians who now have those policies.

    Senate Democrats proposed extending the subsidies for three years. That effort was blocked as it received 51 votes, when 60 were needed to proceed. Sens. Alex Padilla, D-Calif., and Adam Schiff, D-Calif., were for the Democratic plan, joining the other 43 Democrats as well as two independents and four Republicans.

    A Republican alternative was also thwarted. All 47 senators who caucus with Democrats and one Republican, Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., blocked consideration, which also needed 60 votes. Padilla and Schiff voted no.

    sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article313621116.html#storylink=cpy

  71. 71.

    Belafon

    December 11, 2025 at 3:49 pm

    @trollhattan: this place comes close to being a social media site.

  72. 72.

    Professor Bigfoot

    December 11, 2025 at 3:55 pm

    @cain: My wife shoots herself every week, now.

    I tell you, this modern world…

  73. 73.

    Matt McIrvin

    December 11, 2025 at 3:56 pm

    @Old Dan and Little Ann: I diagrammed sentences,  traditional style, in the third grade. I know now that linguists regard most of what was taught in that exercise as incorrect, but it did instill the idea that English syntax had a recursive structure with specific grammatical features.

  74. 74.

    comrade scotts agenda of rage

    December 11, 2025 at 3:57 pm

    @Melancholy Jaques:

    Sure, we all know, heh heh, it wasn’t an educational comment, more of a “Big Tech’s funding a *lot* of voices” given she’s a lobbyist for them.

    And as somebody said in the comments “Is she auditioning for a position at Faux “News?””

  75. 75.

    Karen Gail

    December 11, 2025 at 4:01 pm

    @trollhattan: Since antichristianty is one of the negatives all my pagan sites; especially, Wiccan would keep me not only out but deported to some prison. Balloon juice wouldn’t be as much a problem as Stonekettle Station where I comment often.

  76. 76.

    comrade scotts agenda of rage

    December 11, 2025 at 4:04 pm

    @RaflW:

    Any landing you can walk away from…

  77. 77.

    stinger

    December 11, 2025 at 4:08 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: ​
     It’s so funny this topic has come up — I got three diagramming workbooks last week and am working my way through the first one. The early stuff is easy; I find what I’ve forgotten are some of the terms: intensifier, adverbial noun, predicate adjective, appositive, correlative conjunction. But it’s all coming back to me! I loved diagramming as a kid, and taught it when I was a sixth grade teacher.

  78. 78.

    Gloria DryGarden

    December 11, 2025 at 4:11 pm

    @Karen Gail: you’re making a good case for enlarging the broom closet, in case one needs it.
    im careful what I repost and like on Facebook, and paraphrase lots of things, as a way of hiding in plain sight. Wonder if I need to readjust.

  79. 79.

    Just look at that parking lot

    December 11, 2025 at 4:13 pm

    48 years ago today,December 12th, 1977, the film Saturday Night Fever premiered in NYC.  I hated that movie & would rant on about hating disco music. But a lot a women liked it , so I held  my nose and jumped in. To a young twenty something year old, having sex was more important than having any principles in regards to music preferences.
    Latter on I did gain a little self respect and have refused to ever do the Macarena.

  80. 80.

    RaflW

    December 11, 2025 at 4:20 pm

    Putting this here for now, may circle back to it later if there’s a newer politics open thread (the new thread is on immigration).

    I got rolling on Bsky this afternoon, after driving across the upper midwest/planes states the past couple days:

    —

    Trump is hovering around 36/60 approve/dis right now. And this is before what is likely to be some pretty rough economic times arriving soon. Even farmers are mad. Heard a Nebraska grower say y’day they want to sell soybeans not get handouts (and his entire crop is in storage waiting for a customer).

    $12Bn is not nearly enough to cover their losses. It will get them through the winter to buy inputs for next year. But they can’t sell what they’ve grown now. Who is going to buy 2X as much next fall? [And other countries are growing more beans to meet global demand, so the world market is now long-term shifted!]

    These are *proud* people. They don’t want, but will take, the aid offered. But it rankles. They’re not getting up at 5am tilling fields or fixing fertilizer spreaders to just cash checks from Trump. Their honor is bound up in what they produce, not in being on the dole. We’re already seeing Deere warning of big cuts in equip. sales and related jobs, too, across the farm belt.

    Local elevator co-ops are going to be next in feeling pressures. They need the farmers to sell whats in the elevators to keep cashflows going, and to make room for the next (planned) crop. The rural economy is precarious. I’m very frustrated that these people vote for politicians who don’t fix their issues. That sucks! It’s counter-productive! But they’re in a bind none the less.

    They’re mad, and we – Democrats and liberals – should be finding ways to provide real solutions and to take them seriously, even as they piss us off. Or none of the bad voting will change, and we’ll swirl the drain all the more. /fin

  81. 81.

    Karen Gail

    December 11, 2025 at 4:28 pm

    @Just look at that parking lot: So of the disco was so bad; but it was still way better than the Macarena. Some of us 20 somethings did find disco offensive but then I liked swing dancing.

    Still don’t get why anyone thought John Travolta was sexy; not my idea mine was more Sean Connery.

  82. 82.

    Scout211

    December 11, 2025 at 4:32 pm

    @Karen Gail: Still don’t get why anyone thought John Travolta was sexy

    He rode the Vinny Barbarino coolness train for a few years, but that train soon crashed.

  83. 83.

    lowtechcyclist

    December 11, 2025 at 4:36 pm

    @Old School:

    Looks like donnah

    Edit: Her website.

    She sounds like a happy hooker. ;-)

  84. 84.

    dnfree

    December 11, 2025 at 4:37 pm

    @zhena gogolia: Maybe at your level of education you aren’t required to do professional development?

    My husband is a social worker, degreed and licensed and certified, and he had to complete a certain number of hours of continuing education/professional development every couple of years or lose his license.  Another example of a “profession” that the Trump administration doesn’t think is one.

  85. 85.

    coin operated

    December 11, 2025 at 4:41 pm

    @RaflW: What is needed is comprehensive farm reform and a goddamned immigrant worker program. Row crops ain’t cutting it anymore. What’s left requires serious terraforming, greenhouses, and a lot of manual labor. Good luck getting any of that out of this administration, and good luck getting any previous row cropper to buy into the change.

  86. 86.

    lowtechcyclist

    December 11, 2025 at 4:45 pm

    @Old Man Shadow: ​

    Semi-regular Christmas reminder that: a.) Mary did know

    Well, we know what ‘to know’ means in the Bible (at least in the King James) so the question is, who did she know? If she knew Joseph, then a lot of theology has to be reworked!

  87. 87.

    Karen Gail

    December 11, 2025 at 4:56 pm

    @coin operated: The biggest problem with giving up the row crops is that it can be done by machinery; very few people are needed. To switch to something that would not require massive machines would also mean dealing with what has been done to the soil. First they poison the land, then heavy machines compress the soil until it is rock hard below the few inches of dirt that row crops use. Now since the soil is dead very little other than thistles and dandelions can survive. You can’t even put the land in pasture until something is done to heal the land. With the land dead and open, it becomes dust and blows away; many farms have tiled the land so that where there were once wetlands and places where water collected are now gone.

    Terraform, green houses all sound good but it leaves out the number of years it would take to make the land safe to grow food crops or even be able to pasture animals.

  88. 88.

    coin operated

    December 11, 2025 at 5:00 pm

    @Karen Gail: Yeah…I get that. Gotta start somewhere eh?

  89. 89.

    Gloria DryGarden

    December 11, 2025 at 5:01 pm

    @lowtechcyclist: excellent point!
    on the level of mythology, and mystery religions, and symbolism and archetypes, it all makes a lot more sense.

    I’ve been listening to a lot of Dr Richard Carrier, on historicity of Jesus, which parts of the New Testament were written when, by whom, or that had forgeries and non real events in them. He explains it well, with tons of historical research and evidence, kind of soothing. Here’s one on pagans in Roman culture valuing science more than Christians. Dr Carrier on Rome, pagans and science

  90. 90.

    catclub

    December 11, 2025 at 5:02 pm

    @Suzanne: ​ 

    Today brought yet another episode of I Can’t Make it Bigger On The Inside Than It Is On The Outside. I feel like I’ve seen this show before!

    I think in CS Lewis’s “The Last Battle” (Narnia series)there is a tent that is bigger on the inside than on the outside. Deus ex sewing machina​

  91. 91.

    Gloria DryGarden

    December 11, 2025 at 5:08 pm

    @Scout211: in classes of four year olds, during movement time, I have been known to slip in that famous dance where Travolta points diagonally up, then down to the other side. The kids got into it, some showed their parents, and a few parents came back the next day and asked about if I really did show them that. They were amused.
    that song from the famed disco dance, stayin alive, is now out on YouTube in a madrigal form, sung as if in the 1600s. Pretty amusing.

  92. 92.

    Gloria DryGarden

    December 11, 2025 at 5:11 pm

    @dnfree: I suspect it gets called continuing Ed, CE, in some places, and PD in other places. It was required for ongoing membership in my professional organization for massage therapists. Probably required in many professions, whatever it’s called.

  93. 93.

    WaterGirl

    December 11, 2025 at 5:15 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne:  I see someone found her in fewer than 5 comments!

  94. 94.

    Deputinize America

    December 11, 2025 at 5:16 pm

    @Gloria DryGarden:

    I’m convinced that the transition from a pagan state to monotheism betrayed humanity.

    This is based on the simple premise that monotheism leads to stagnant societal development because a “Team Ethos” by those in power becomes inevitable. More scientific developments would have arisen under paganism as it withered and died.

    Roman systems of governance survived the end of the Imperial lines at the hands of the waves of Germanic assimilations, while the empire in the East endured nearly another thousand years. It wasn’t the religious stuff that the tribes were emulating, either – it was the basic structure of government, and that went on for another century or two. All the Christianism did was destabilize the base society.

  95. 95.

    Karen Gail

    December 11, 2025 at 5:26 pm

    @coin operated: Guess the best visual would be where a desert has been slowly turned into green; because that is what would have to happen. The “good” part is that soil scientists now know that hemp can pull the poisons from the soil but they have only tested how much and how long on small patches. Think square yards not acres; at this point they have been using the hemp in building materials and haven’t fed that hemp to animals.

  96. 96.

    Karen Gail

    December 11, 2025 at 5:28 pm

    @Deputinize America: Christianity was meant to destabilize pagan societies to make them conquerable by the Romans.

  97. 97.

    rikyrah

    December 11, 2025 at 5:28 pm

    Team Talarico
    @TeamTalaricoHQ
    .
    @JamesTalarico
    : My family’s from South Texas. Voters there feel betrayed by both parties, and many voted for Trump last year. Now everything is more expensive and corruption is the worst it’s ever been. It is incumbent upon us to make the case to these voters and persuade them to join us in this effort to stop the extremism and corruption
    x.com/TeamTalaricoHQ/status/1998938943673233583?s=20

    Tim
    @trouble_man90
    The “yea we suck too” approach has been tried time and time again, and it is a proven loser argument that doesn’t work. It doesn’t inspire democrats and doesn’t disarm being a democrat in the eyes of independent and conservative voters that you’re trying to appeal to.

    x.com/trouble_man90/status/1999041312344211777?s=20

  98. 98.

    rikyrah

    December 11, 2025 at 5:37 pm

    Citizens for Ethics
    @CREWcrew
    The DOJ’s demands for states’ voter rolls raises serious privacy concerns for voters who have entrusted their personal info to their state—not the federal government.

    That’s why the courts should dismiss the DOJ’s lawsuits against California and Oregon.
    x.com/CREWcrew/status/1999117043602272320?s=20

  99. 99.

    strange visitor (from another planet)

    December 11, 2025 at 5:42 pm

    @rikyrah:  so much for states’ rights.

  100. 100.

    Timill

    December 11, 2025 at 5:57 pm

    @Gloria DryGarden:

    Stary Olsa – Child In Time (Deep Purple cover) LIVE

  101. 101.

    Kayla Rudbek

    December 11, 2025 at 10:42 pm

    @Gloria DryGarden: for lawyers, it’s continuing legal education (CLE)

  102. 102.

    Kayla Rudbek

    December 11, 2025 at 10:45 pm

    @Karen Gail: you can turn hemp into yarn, paper, and rope as well.

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