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Open Thread: Weigel Is Back

by Anne Laurie|  August 10, 20108:41 am| 13 Comments

This post is in: Excellent Links, DC Press Corpse, Wingnut Event Horizon

David Weigel’s started his new gig at Slate. So far, he seems a little more subdued than he was as an official WaPo blogger:

… On Monday, FreedomWorks displayed the latest version of its target list—the people its PAC would most like to defeat—the latest signs and fliers printed up for its candidates, the reading list handed out to activists (it includes Atlas Shrugged and the new manifesto by FreedomWorks Chairman Dick Armey and Kibbe, Give Me Liberty), and advice for contacting the media. (“Always try to do personal emails or be sure to use the BCC field. Never advertise which other media outlets you are trying to score a hit with.”)
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This event was scheduled weeks ago. Unfortunately, meet-and-greet coincided with Ken Vogel’s latest Politico write-up of those “growing pains” that Kibbe wanted to downplay. The story points out that FreedomWorks raised only 5 percent more in 2009 than it raised in 2008, peaking at $7.9 million.
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So Brandon changed tack slightly: The article just showed that FreedomWorks is a low-budget, grass-roots, non-Astroturf operation. “We’re one of the smallest PACs in the game,” said Brandon. “We’re going to spend, at most $10 million. We don’t know those Karl Rove donors.” He leaned down and tapped a stack of Rand Paul fliers that were bound for FreedomWorks members in Kentucky. “These cost less than one cent per flier. Fractions of a cent.” —

… but the article is titled “Tea Party Boot Camp: The Tea Party movement teaches itself how to elect Republicans“, so he’s still more honest than one might expect from the venue.

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Shut Up You Whiney Bitches

by @heymistermix.com|  August 10, 20108:12 am| 144 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads

Robert Gibbs:

The press secretary dismissed the “professional left” in terms very similar to those used by their opponents on the ideological right, saying, “They will be satisfied when we have Canadian healthcare and we’ve eliminated the Pentagon. That’s not reality.”

Of those who complain that Obama caved to centrists on issues such as healthcare reform, Gibbs said: “They wouldn’t be satisfied if Dennis Kucinich was president.”

You wouldn’t be satisfied if I gave you an open thread full of unicorns, ponies and stardust, so all you’re getting is a regular open thread.

Update: Forgot to mention that this is via Glenn Greenwald who is in a bit of swivet on Twitter this morning.

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Open Thread: Comment of the Day

by Anne Laurie|  August 10, 20102:22 am| 44 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, Fools! Overton Window!

From Batocchio:

I thought all BJ commenters received a set of pearls to clutch. That’s the only reason I’m here. Hey, free pearls. And swine. What more does a blog need?

Also, a commentor whose name I’ve misplaced linked to this, which I found entertaining as an example of how philosophical opposites, taken to a sufficiently high level of purity, seem to end up moving in a circle:
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“It is immoral to use private property to alleviate the horrible evils that result from the institution of private property! There is a certain type of misanthropy which is much better as a social attitude than this cheap, charitable optimism!”

How badly could we shock Megan McArdle by telling her she was nodding in agreement with a committed… Socialist?
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FYWP margin problems: “In IE, the margin problem goes away if you turn off javascript (Tools>Internet Options>Security>Custom Settings>Disable Active Scripting). This is comparable to using the High security setting.”

Hope that is helpful.
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Open Thread

by John Cole|  August 9, 20105:54 pm| 82 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads

I’m so stressed out that even my dogs are pissing me off. I took their damned collars off so I could concentrate rather than hearing them pacing behind me because they want to go out every damned ten minutes.

Anyone want two dogs?

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Open Thread

by John Cole|  August 9, 201010:16 am| 49 Comments

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A little early in the morning for cute overload, but what the hell:

Looks like I’ll have to make the bed later.

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Rights of Victims

by Kay|  August 9, 20109:58 am| 73 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, Blatant Liars and the Lies They Tell, Fucked-up-edness

Now that every rational argument against the planned religious-sponsored community center has failed, now that the opponents have conceded that the First Amendment protects minority religious rights, and opponents lost at the local level, we’re given the rights of victims argument.

The country’s political and policy leaders should oppose the planned center out of deference to the feelings of the victims of the September 11th attacks.

This is dangerous, and wrong-headed, and a fundamental misreading of our system, but it’s not new. We’ve been heading in this direction for a long time. I think of it as the “Nancy Grace School” of law and policy.

The September 11th attacks were a crime, or act of war, or both, take your pick, against the people of the United States. If and when OBL or any other perpetrator is every captured, the complaint or indictment will read “United States versus OBL”. If there is victim participation it will be in the form of testimony, or an “impact statement” at sentencing. When we invaded Afghanistan, we invaded as the United States.

This distinction is vitally important, and it’s grounded in the idea that any one of us could have been in that building and, further, that the attack was a violation of our laws and our norms. We can’t lose sight of that. When we respond as a country to events on the basis of sentimentality or closure or healing of the individual stories or wishes of victims, we lose that idea, and we always, always end up with bad law or bad policy or both.

I saw this play out in the Roman Polanski debate, again and again. “But, the victim has forgiven him!” You know what? It doesn’t matter. It was never Victim versus Polanski. Never. It was State of California versus Polanski, because the offense was against all of us, or any of us. That’s harsh, but there it is.

I’ll tell you the flip side of adopting this idea, because there is a flip side. When we ground an analysis in the relative worth, individual character or opinion of the victim, we end up (inevitably and always) at the “innocence” of the victim, because we’re human. This cuts both ways, which is why all crime victims should reject it.

We can (and have) ended up at “she asked for it”, or, “he shouldn’t have been there”, in the criminal system. That’s the flip side of letting this get muddled, and letting it become about the individual victim. It doesn’t end well, and we already know it.

The offense was against the People of the United States, and the People of the United States adopted and follow the First Amendment. Any legal or policy or bully pulpit response from democratically elected leaders starts and ends there. It’s harsh and it’s unsentimental and it can border on cruel, but there’s a reason for it. It won’t work the other way. It never does.
We can (and should, and have) respond to individual victims as individuals. I read the stories just like all of you, and they were heartbreaking. Our national response has to remain grounded not in those individual people, but in the larger idea, or we’ve completely lost our bearings.

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Early Morning Open Thread

by Anne Laurie|  August 9, 20105:59 am| 7 Comments

This post is in: Music, Open Threads


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… And it’s a miracle that keeps coming around, every day of the year…

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