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Musings: How to Make Yourself Miserable

by WaterGirl|  August 4, 20255:18 pm| 43 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads

Several decades ago I bought a great book called  How to Make Yourself Miserable.

As you might guess from the title, it’s written in a “how to” format, and it’s quite humorous as it points out the ways we humans make ourselves miserable.

There’s a fun section about throwing a party.   Worry that no one will come.  Worry that too many people will come, and there won’t be enough room for everyone!   Worry that you might not have enough food.  Worry that you will have too much food!  And so on.

One of my favorite parts includes step-by-step instructions on How to End a Deep Romantic Relationship.  My memory is hazy on the details, but I think he offered two or three difference scenarios for doing that.  (I might have resembled one of them!)

 I cannot find my copy; I think it’s in a box somewhere that I packed up when the carpeting was being installed in my sunroom.  Found it!

Anyway, I’m pretty sure we could write our own chapter about protests.  

  • What if nobody comes?  What if too many people come?
  • What if a lot of people show up, but they aren’t the right kind of people?
  • Worry that 6 million people around the world might not be enough!
  • Worry that our elected officials won’t care.
  • Worry that even if a hundred million people show up, none of them will be Trump voters and no one will care.

Speaking of which, did everything fizzle out after the initial protests?

I’m also pretty sure we could write our own chapter about elections.  

  • What would that chapter look like, if we were to write it?
  • Can we write down all our worries, and then make sure we don’t let them derail us?

Seriously, sometimes I think we are our own worst enemy.  Perfect is the enemy of the good, and second guessing and nitpicking are exhausting.

Open thread.

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Something Positive Open Thread: Democratic Governors Angling for 2028

by Anne Laurie|  August 4, 20253:19 pm| 106 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, Proud to Be A Democrat

COLUMN: Democratic governors have a fix for the party, and they’re remarkably bullish, our Jonathan Martin writes.

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— Politico (@politico.com) July 30, 2025 at 11:17 AM

Too soon, yeah, but if even Politico / Jonathan Martin is noticing that we Dems are bullish…

… “Governors are extremely popular,” Hawaii Gov. Josh Green reminded me, adding that he and his fellow Democratic state executives “have a story to tell, whereas senators and congresspeople tend to have a conflict.”…

The thinking goes something like this: Past is prologue, and once voters absorb Republican overreach, Democrats will benefit in the short term and then can reclaim the White House by simply finding a strong candidate with a compelling message.

This tends to both underestimate the depth of their party’s brand challenge and, I think, gravely underestimate the lengths Trump will go to retain control of Congress and the White House. (See redistricting, mid-decade).

Yet to hear it from the Democratic governors, the so-called Big Beautiful Bill will age the same way one of the massive carp from the Broadmoor resort’s lake would out on the shadeless pickleball court all day. And the deeper fatigue from The Trump Show will ultimately dog Republicans, just as it did in his first term — and as two terms of George W. Bush did a generation ago…

“We will have a governor who has solved problems, whether it’s Josh who has solved the problems with when his bridge went down or Wes when they had that disaster in Maryland and we had the Maui wildfire,” said Green.

Now, the Hawaii governor may not run himself — though Green is a doctor, so look for him to be considered for health secretary — but his references to Pennsylvania Gov. Josh Shapiro and Maryland Gov. Wes Moore were not happenstance.

In private here at the Broadmoor resort and at a media-free gathering of Democratic women governors on Michigan’s Mackinac Island earlier this month, I’m told, the talk has turned to which of them will claim the mantle. And Shapiro and Moore, who are both in their first terms, have emerged as early favorites among their peers…

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This is no popularity contest. The govs are guessing who among them will have the most appeal with the electorate.

They’re fond of Illinois Gov. JB Pritzker as well as Kentucky’s Andy Beshear, if somewhat more skeptical either can claim a nomination and general election. Michigan’s Gretchen Whitmer is well-liked, especially among the other women governors, but there are doubts she’ll run for president. And former Rhode Island Governor-turned-Commerce-Secretary Gina Raimondo has her admirers.

They’re less enamored with California’s Gavin Newsom, to put it mildly, who has never really been part of the governor’s club…

In the end, I think, the eventual Democratic nominee will emerge because they can do (at least) two things: plausibly run against the political status quo as a changemaker and can claim the attention-economy crown that has reshaped politics. Which is to say: Who can hold your attention online for seven seconds or more?

Democrats will know it when they see it.

As Colorado Gov. Jared Polis, the outgoing NGA chair, put it, “we have all very much become content generators.”…

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Open Thread: Trump, Wrecking Our Strong Economy

by Anne Laurie|  August 4, 20251:27 pm| 59 Comments

This post is in: C.R.E.A.M., Open Threads, Trumpery

One of the hallmarks of Trump leadership has been them firing a dedicated public servant, only to learn that their replacement is also a dedicated public servant, so they just keep firing people & whining. Project 2025 was supposed to "fix" this but DOGE fucked it up

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— Chatham Harrison dba TRUMP DELENDUS EST (@chathamharrison.bsky.social) August 1, 2025 at 6:19 PM

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I am reminded of how many things there are that are neither illegal nor unconstitutional for the simple reason that it never occurred to anyone that someone would be SO BLOODY STUPID as to do the things.
This is into "technically it's not illegal to tongue a light socket" territory.

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— The Questionable Authority (@questauthority.bsky.social) August 1, 2025 at 5:30 PM

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The Mystery of the Strong Economy Has Finally Been Solved
Turns out it wasn’t actually that strong.
www.theatlantic.com/economy/arch…

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— Dark Knight (@d-knight2124.bsky.social) August 1, 2025 at 8:35 PM

Rogé Karma, for the Atlantic:

… After Trump announced his first sweeping round of “Liberation Day” tariffs, in April, the country appeared to be on the verge of economic catastrophe. The stock market plunged, the bond market nearly melted down, expectations of future inflation skyrocketed, and experts predicted a recession.

But the crisis never came. Trump walked back or delayed his most extreme threats, and those that he kept didn’t seem to inflict much economic damage. Month after month, economists predicted that evidence of the negative impact of tariffs in the economic data was just around the corner. Instead, according to the available numbers, inflation remained stable, job growth remained strong, and the stock market set new records…

The seemingly strong data spurred soul-searching among journalists and economists. “The Economy Seems Healthy. Were the Warnings About Tariffs Overblown?” read a representative New York Times headline. Commentators scrambled to explain how the experts could have gotten things so wrong. Maybe it was because companies had stocked up on imported goods before the tariffs had come into effect; maybe the economy was simply so strong that it was impervious to Trump’s machinations; maybe economists were suffering from “tariff derangement syndrome.” Either way, the possibility that Trump had been right, and the economists wrong, had to be taken seriously…

Then came the new economic data. This morning, the BLS released its monthly jobs report, showing that the economy added just 73,000 new jobs last month—well below the 104,000 that forecasters had expected—and that unemployment rose slightly, to 4.2 percent. More important, the new report showed that jobs numbers for the previous two months had been revised down considerably after the agency received a more complete set of responses from the businesses it surveys monthly. What had been reported as a strong two-month gain of 291,000 jobs was revised down to a paltry 33,000. What had once looked like a massive jobs boom ended up being a historically weak quarter of growth.

Even that might be too rosy a picture. All the net gains of the past three months came from a single sector, health care, without which the labor market would have lost nearly 100,000 jobs. That’s concerning because health care is one of the few sectors that is mostly insulated from broader economic conditions: People always need it, even during bad times. (The manufacturing sector, which tariffs are supposed to be boosting, has shed jobs for three straight months.) Moreover, the new numbers followed an inflation report released by the Commerce Department yesterday that found that the Federal Reserve’s preferred measure of price growth had picked up in June and remained well above the central bank’s 2 percent target. (The prior month’s inflation report was also revised upward to show a slight increase in May.) Economic growth and consumer spending also turned out to have fallen considerably compared with the first half of 2024. Taken together, these economic reports are consistent with the stagflationary environment that economists were predicting a few months ago: mediocre growth, a weakening labor market, and rising prices…

The Trump administration has found itself caught between deflecting blame for the weak economic numbers and denying the numbers’ validity. In an interview with CNN… Miran admitted that the new jobs report “isn’t ideal” but went on to attribute it to various “anomalous factors,” including data quirks and reduced immigration. (Someone should ask Miran why immigration is down.) And this afternoon, Trump posted a rant on Truth Social accusing the BLS commissioner of cooking the books to make him look bad. “I have directed my Team to fire this Biden Political Appointee, IMMEDIATELY,” he wrote. “She will be replaced with someone much more competent and qualified.” He then went on to argue, not for the first time, that Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell should be fired for hamstringing the economy with high interest rates. These defenses are, of course, mutually exclusive: If the bad numbers are fake, why should Trump be mad at Powell?…

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“This is the worst economic jobs report since the end of the pandemic.” – CNN

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— George Conway 👊🇺🇸🔥 (@gtconway.bsky.social) August 1, 2025 at 3:16 PM

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just a reminder that the good defense of BLS numbers to date has never been that Trump couldn't corrupt them, it's that we'd be able to tell if he did.
if after today you still can't tell, that's on you, I think

— post malone ergo propter malone (@proptermalone.bsky.social) August 1, 2025 at 4:37 PM

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there will be good faith attempts to work with what BLS puts out in future to determine how much it can be trusted.
but like, he just fired the person running it explicitly because the published numbers made him mad.
we must presume bad faith from here.

— post malone ergo propter malone (@proptermalone.bsky.social) August 1, 2025 at 4:40 PM

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Why do the jobs numbers get revised?
our markets and policymakers want data NOW but employer data dribbles in over months
1st estimate is based on the 75% of employers who respond promptly
Updates occur as more data rolls in: 95% response rate by final revision 1/N
www.bls.gov/opub/btn/vol…

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— Prof Dynarski (@dynarski.bsky.social) August 2, 2025 at 6:08 AM

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BLS *could* wait to report jobs growth until they hit that 95% response rate months later
But then we wouldn't have an any estimate of June jobs until August
Tradeoff is btw faster vs more accurate estimates
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— Prof Dynarski (@dynarski.bsky.social) August 2, 2025 at 6:20 AM

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Succinct summary:
www.bls.gov/opub/btn/vol…
3/3

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— Prof Dynarski (@dynarski.bsky.social) August 2, 2025 at 6:21 AM

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if i were a pro-trump financial type i might view the destruction of reliable government data with the kind of anger and apprehension that might lead me to reevaluate my politics, but then if i’m a financial guy throwing my weight behind strongman rule, i’m already too stupid to breathe

— jamelle (@jamellebouie.net) August 1, 2025 at 2:38 PM

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Democrats: Making Your Life Better

by WaterGirl|  August 4, 202510:18 am| 132 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, Political Action, Politics, Refusing To Let Those Fuckers Win

Way back in June, stinger posted a comment that I thought was so smart that I copied it into a draft post which sat there in the dashboard until today.

I’m hoping we can talk about it here.

stinger

@JML: Thanks for this list: “things like civil rights, tax policy, health care, social security, labor policy, tec”. Imma bounce off it below.

Apparently people don’t know what Democrats stand for, so here’s a plan to counter that.

If the Democrats had a central organizing body, which the DNC is not, this is what their marketing plan should be, at a national level and tailorable for local.

Slogan/tagline:

Democrats: Making Your Life Better

Each word for a reason.

  • “Making” in the present tense.
  • “Your”, not “our” or generic.
  • “Life”, with specifics in the rest of the ad.
  • “Better”, which is aspirational AND achievable.

Short enough for a bumper sticker and branded materials.

Then, two series of ads.  

In the first series, each ad focuses on one specific Democratic accomplishment.

  • Don’t name Biden, or Obama, or Clinton
  • Don’t use broad terms such as “civil rights” or “health care”.

Simply describe in plain language a specific change championed by Democrats and give a concrete example of an American whose life was improved by it.

  • Short, one-issue ads, lots of them, TV and print.
  • Make it unavoidable for people to identify with the idea that Democrats improve your life.

In the second series, each ad focuses on one specific proposed law or issue,

  • Do this during campaign season and afterwards.
  • We have to campaign year-round.

Local Democrats can then grab onto the slogan and use state/local examples.

I think this is really smart, and if Ben Wikler had been chair of the DNC I would have found a way to get this idea to him.

What do you guys think?  Is this as smart as it seems to me?  If so, what could we do to help make this a reality?

Also, let’s use this as a thread where you can tell us about your donations to the Four Directions Native vote efforts in Virginia.  We have a new $500 Angel Match, anonymous, matching up to $100 per person.

We’re closing in on the $10k mark, but until we get there, all donations up to $100 person that you tell us about by email or in the comments will have 6x matching.  As soon as your BJ Angel adds their match, we will be at $10,000.  Then we have a single external match, so while we have an angel donations will be 3x.  Not 6x, but still awesome!

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Monday Morning Open Thread: Wonders of Nature

by Anne Laurie|  August 4, 20256:46 am| 121 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads

Skyline cleanse.. his name is Emmanuel Savary…🔥🔥🔥

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— JazzReads📚 (@jazzreads.bsky.social) August 2, 2025 at 6:23 PM

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The first Senate vote after summer recess will be on Tuesday, September 2nd at 5:30pm on whether to limit debate on proceeding to the 2026 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA), approved by the Armed Services Committee 26-1 on July 9.

— Craig Caplan (@CraigCaplan) August 3, 2025


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A volcano on Russia's Kamchatka Peninsula has erupted for the first time in hundreds of years.

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— The Associated Press (@apnews.com) August 4, 2025 at 12:30 AM

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Another Weekend Update: Epstein & His Victims

by Anne Laurie|  August 4, 20251:28 am| 45 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, The War On Women, Trump Crime Cartel

the maxwell transfer is a distraction from the epstein story which is a distraction from the tariffs which is a distraction from the deportations which is a distraction from the BLS chaos which is a distraction from the fed business which is a distraction from doge which is a distraction from

— GOLIKEHELLMACHINE (@golikehellmachine.com) August 1, 2025 at 7:06 PM

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THEY KNEW. “the worst kept secret in the social society circles in both Palm Beach and NY. It wasn’t just Trump who was there. There were people in the media…in science. There were tons of people that were at these events and at these parties with young girls”
open.substack.com/pub/contrari…

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— Jen Rubin (@jenrubin.bsky.social) August 1, 2025 at 11:02 AM

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well, that should tamp down the speculation, great work everyone
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— GOLIKEHELLMACHINE (@golikehellmachine.com) August 1, 2025 at 5:41 PM


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it’s completely fucking crazy that ghislaine maxwell got a favorable transfer which she legally did not qualify for, based on a conversation with the deputy AG who used to be the president’s personal lawyer, that does not seem like it will ever become public, let alone be used in a prosecution

— GOLIKEHELLMACHINE (@golikehellmachine.com) August 1, 2025 at 6:14 PM


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fwiw, i’m not sure how likely it is, but i do think it’s not out of the realm of possibility that they just quietly release her without any paperwork and no one figures it out until she’s left the country
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— GOLIKEHELLMACHINE (@golikehellmachine.com) August 1, 2025 at 6:30 PM


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you can’t really pardon her, politically, it’s a fucking disaster; you can’t really kill her, that just pours a river’s worth of accelerant on an already-dangerous fire; but what if you could do a secret, third thing (functionally disappear her)

— GOLIKEHELLMACHINE (@golikehellmachine.com) August 1, 2025 at 6:34 PM

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Brown: Brad Edwards deposed Epstein’s accountant—she worked for Epstein’s modeling company
She gave more detail than we had heard before, including the fact that when Epstein formed that company, he told her he wanted it to be set up just like Trump’s modeling agency.
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— Acyn (@acyn.bsky.social) August 2, 2025 at 5:09 PM


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Since No One Else Seems to Care, Let’s Remember Epstein’s Survivors www.jezebel.com/since-no-one…
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— Gingerbird🦉 (@gingerbird.bsky.social) July 31, 2025 at 5:49 AM

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From Puck, “Johnson Loses the Epstein Caucus”:

When a House Oversight subcommittee voted to subpoena the Justice Department to release the so-called Epstein files last week, Georgia Rep. Brian Jack made a surprising decision. The freshman congressman and Trump loyalist, who served as the president’s political director during his first term and remains close with him and White House Chief of Staff Susie Wiles, was one of three Republicans to vote with Democrats. House Republicans generally rely on Jack for insight into the president’s thinking, and he’s been given plum assignments, including candidate recruitment for House Republicans and a seat on the powerful Steering and Rules committees. And yet here he was openly defying Trump in support of a Democratic amendment that would force the D.O.J.’s hand and metastasize a fomenting political scandal.

But Jack was in political survivor mode. Two weeks ago, as one of the members of the House Rules Committee, he and other Republicans had voted against Epstein-related amendments pushed by Democrats, causing a backlash online and from voters and eventually halting business in the House, as I reported last week. The voters in Jack’s conservative district—the same ones who propelled him to victory in a Republican primary runoff, and then a 33-point drubbing of his Democratic opponent—were demanding transparency on the Epstein issue. By Wednesday, according to a lawmaker who spoke to him, Jack had decided he had no choice but to back the subpoena before he headed home for recess to face his constituents…

As the meeting got underway, a frustrated Rep. Clay Higgins, chair of the subcommittee, told Johnson in a testy phone call, according to two people familiar with the situation, that his committee wouldn’t be able to beat back Epstein-related measures, putting members in the difficult position of having to choose between Trump and a demanding MAGA base. Higgins questioned why the committee was even gaveling in. Loudly echoing rank-and-file Republican members, he demanded to hear the speaker’s plan to address the wave of Epstein measures. Johnson didn’t have much of a strategy.

Two other Republicans joined Jack in voting for the subpoena: South Carolina Rep. Nancy Mace and Pennsylvania Rep. Scott Perry, a Freedom Caucus member in one of the most competitive districts in the country. When Perry was later asked about Epstein at a telephone town hall last week, he declared that he’d voted for transparency. “I have requested the files,” he said, according to NPR. “I have requested that the D.O.J.—and you can see the letter publicly—that the D.O.J. release the files. Not only that, they also provide a special prosecutor.”

Rep. Andy Biggs, another Freedom Caucus member, had seemed as though he was going to back the Justice Department subpoena but waited until after the other committee members had voted, and then voted against it. One Republican insisted that Biggs will lose his bid for governor in Arizona over that vote. I’m not sure that’s true, but it shows how paranoid Republicans have become about the Epstein issue. Others think Biggs probably voted against the measure because he’s seeking Trump’s endorsement for his gubernatorial race.

In any case, it appears that Johnson’s balmy six-month honeymoon with this Congress, thanks largely to Trump’s support, is over. He’s struggling to control his conference and lacks a coherent strategy to turn the page. Of course, it doesn’t help that Trump and the White House are also floundering. As it turns out, if you build a presidential campaign around “exposing the truth,” you get penalized when you look like you’re covering it up instead…

someone from the white house got on the phone with comer and told him that he should not under any circumstances be allowed to testify in front of congress.

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— GOLIKEHELLMACHINE (@golikehellmachine.com) August 1, 2025 at 6:47 PM

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New in PN: Why Epstein has Trump crashing out
“At this point, Trump might as well release all the files. They can’t do any more damage than he does himself whenever he opens his mouth on the subject.”
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— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com) August 1, 2025 at 8:09 AM

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Josh Marshall, at TPM:

… I’ve said several times that the extremity of Trump’s reaction and the level of apparent panic it’s driving must be in some degree proportionate to whatever he’s keeping secret. But what if it’s not? One long time TPM Reader put this to me over the weekend. He basically said: think how long and hard Trump fought to keep his taxes secret. And yet when they finally came out it was pretty underwhelming. So maybe this is just Trump’s reflex? He doesn’t want anyone in his business and he just goes to war even if there’s not that much reason to do so…

It’s a worthwhile cautionary note. But I don’t think this is the same as the tax return issue. Yes, Trump fought that for years. But that almost entirely amounted to saying “no” over and over again. Yes, he fought it in court. But that’s what Trump does. He fights things in court. He’s got plenty of money for lawyers. That didn’t require any real exertion on his part and, critically, it didn’t involve doing himself much political harm other than the general suspicions that his opponents had of him from all the way back in 2015. And in any case there’s always going to be a limit in what you’re going to find in anyone’s tax returns. It’s information you’re giving to the government! You’re not going to find: bribe from Saddam Hussein; miscellaneous payments for sex to underage girls.

The key is that the reaction is just very different. Trump has sustained a lot of damage from the last few weeks. It’s spurred a major fracture in his MAGA coalition, almost unheard of criticism from core supporters in the MAGA cinematic universe. It’s not too much to say that the story has completely consumed Washington, D.C. as well as the Congress and executive branch. At least for the moment it’s stymieing his whole agenda. This is hurting him a lot and I don’t think he’d be allowing himself to sustain this level of damage if he didn’t see what’s in those files (or what he fears is in those files) as a big threat.

Of course, it’s possible he doesn’t know for certain what’s in the files but he knows what he did. He can’t take the risk of finding out. You could turn my life upside down and review all my private notebooks and I have perfect confidence you wouldn’t find any evidence I ever played Major League Baseball. I’m 100% innocent. Trump clearly doesn’t have that confidence about this.

I still can’t imagine what could be that bad or frankly what he’s worried about. I really have a hard time believing any of this is happening. But it is happening. And I’m going to stick to thinking the black hole is there because of the gravitational force I see it exerting.

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How Does the Epstein Scandal End? 

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this remains such an incredibly strange way to answer a very easy question
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— GOLIKEHELLMACHINE (@golikehellmachine.com) August 1, 2025 at 8:32 PM

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Muppets, You Say?

by WaterGirl|  August 3, 202511:00 pm| 52 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads

I started this post in the first half of July but never finished it.

Omnes posted this video of the Swedish Chef in the comments, and I found it delightful!  I had no idea this even existed.

A couple of other Muppet favorites of mine.

Beaker sings Feelings.

Harry Belefonte – Turn the World Around

Harry Belefonte – The Banana Boat Song

Okay, one more.

I hate even numbers, so I’ll add the best Muppet song you guys share in the comments – right here. What’s it gonna be?

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It might be in the morning, though, unless I wake up in the night.

I made some killer jalapeño cheddar cornbread this afternoon.  My neighbor who is in the military reserves had been shipped to Africa for 6+ months and he returned yesterday.  He mortally loves my tomatoes and peppers and cucumbers and the extra sweet corn I always pick up for him at the farmer’s market, so I made him a basket of all that stuff yesterday.  He doesn’t really like sweets, but he loves cornbread, so I made him the jalapeño cheddar cornbread this afternoon.  It’s so good!

Happy to say that my jalapeño crop is very spicy this year!

Totally open thread.

Update Monday morning:  I had not seen many of the ones you guys linked to and I did not know it would be so hard to pick the best one to add to my list!

 

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