What is lame? I didn’t even listen to him- I will read it in the am. I was flipping through channels to see if it was over, and came across kaine, and the eyebrow freaked me out.
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Joey
He eats breakfast 300 yards from 3000 Confederates trained to kill him.
I love the quotes. That movie was just on the IU movie channel today. I was watching it instead of the shrub. I’d never seen it before. Great movie.
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M.A.
Here’s the real question: why isn’t Ezra Klein going on pundit shows? He’s young, good-looking, funny, good at making arguments quickly (you have to be, if you blog all day). For that matter, why are so few of the youngish liberal pundits — at the American Prospect, the Washington Monthly, and so on — seen regularly on TV? Instead the right-wing magazines supply their writers, and the liberal response is some pathetic “senior Democratic strategist.”
I guess part of it is that Fox News is cross-pollinated with a magazine (The Weekly Standard) owned by the same company. The American Prospect can’t put its people on TV as easily as Murdoch can. But still, part of the liberal disadvantage in the media is that they’re not finding a way to get their young talent onto the airwaves.
What is lame? I didn’t even listen to him- I will read it in the am. I was flipping through channels to see if it was over, and came across kaine, and the eyebrow freaked me out.
LOL. Ok I admit it, his raised eyebrow freaked me out too.
He did have some good stuff to say though. Especially about the budget,
I also, on another blog comment thread, wrote about the eyebrow. And the coached hand-gestures, and some other close-watching bits.
But although President Bush said some stuff I’m just fine with, and a bunch of other stuff I’m ok with, I’d didn’t appreciate this Big Lie: “A sudden withdrawal of our forces from Iraq would […] put men like bin Laden and Zarqawi in charge of a strategic country …”
What an effing blatant whopping lie.
Also the usual false framing of the NSA issue, about which pretty much no one contests that we should not be spying, or listening to al Qaeda, just not Americans on the say so of the King alone, without either Congress changing FISA or a warrant.
What Bush says is a tad more important than the newbie.
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Steve
Kaine gave a good speech. It was a lot better than that snooze-fest from Reid and Pelosi last year. It would have been nice if he could have said something in response to Bush on the NSA scandal, but even though it’s called a “response,” this wasn’t exactly the sort of speech that was written on the fly. Bush sure did give a full-throated defense on that issue, though? Wow. The Dems better do something if they want people to realize Bush told lie after lie after lie.
Imagine, for a moment, that Bush is telling 100% of the truth, and the only people we ever listen to are people on the phone with al-Qaeda. We all know the FISA court would approve a wiretap for that call in a heartbeat, retroactively if necessary. Why the heck make this your hill to die on? Why make it a huge secret and go through Congressional hearings and all that, just to make sure you can do something without a warrant that you could easily obtain a warrant for?
I think intelligent people who have been following the issue pretty much understand that isn’t the full extent of calls they’ve been eavesdropping on. Their position makes absolutely no sense if that’s the case.
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Geek, Esq.
I wonder about the conventional wisdom that a party needs to have pretty faces. Might make more sense to have regular or even funny looking folks out there if you want to go populist.
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Angela Ferguson
“The eyebrow” …
HA! That’s actually pretty funny! I thought the same thing as I watched him speak but I didn’t think others would focus on the same thing. We are all a bunch of humor freaks! Always looking for a laugh!
:)
Other than that, I thought his speech was really good. Could’ve covered NSA and maybe even Abramoff … maybe … but it was still good.
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BettyCrow
I was just thinking that.
*wince*
Pooh
He eats breakfast 300 yards from 3000 Confederates trained to kill him.
Mike Quinlivan
I didn’t even notice until just now; but, yeah, that was a crazy eyebrow. Speech was ok I thought.
Ah, and the grusome twosome of McCain and Biden are up next. Joy….
Blue Neponset
I thought Kaine did a pretty good job. Eyebrow and all.
The Disenfranchised Voter
L-A-M-E.
Pathetic, John.
You know you agreed with what Kaine said about the budget.
Pooh
Kaine’s speech was actually pretty good. Except I don’t think he mentioned NSA. Which is worrisome if the Dems are going to puss out on that as well.
John Cole
What is lame? I didn’t even listen to him- I will read it in the am. I was flipping through channels to see if it was over, and came across kaine, and the eyebrow freaked me out.
Joey
I love the quotes. That movie was just on the IU movie channel today. I was watching it instead of the shrub. I’d never seen it before. Great movie.
M.A.
Here’s the real question: why isn’t Ezra Klein going on pundit shows? He’s young, good-looking, funny, good at making arguments quickly (you have to be, if you blog all day). For that matter, why are so few of the youngish liberal pundits — at the American Prospect, the Washington Monthly, and so on — seen regularly on TV? Instead the right-wing magazines supply their writers, and the liberal response is some pathetic “senior Democratic strategist.”
I guess part of it is that Fox News is cross-pollinated with a magazine (The Weekly Standard) owned by the same company. The American Prospect can’t put its people on TV as easily as Murdoch can. But still, part of the liberal disadvantage in the media is that they’re not finding a way to get their young talent onto the airwaves.
The Disenfranchised Voter
LOL. Ok I admit it, his raised eyebrow freaked me out too.
He did have some good stuff to say though. Especially about the budget,
Gary Farber
I also, on another blog comment thread, wrote about the eyebrow. And the coached hand-gestures, and some other close-watching bits.
But although President Bush said some stuff I’m just fine with, and a bunch of other stuff I’m ok with, I’d didn’t appreciate this Big Lie: “A sudden withdrawal of our forces from Iraq would […] put men like bin Laden and Zarqawi in charge of a strategic country …”
What an effing blatant whopping lie.
Also the usual false framing of the NSA issue, about which pretty much no one contests that we should not be spying, or listening to al Qaeda, just not Americans on the say so of the King alone, without either Congress changing FISA or a warrant.
What Bush says is a tad more important than the newbie.
Steve
Kaine gave a good speech. It was a lot better than that snooze-fest from Reid and Pelosi last year. It would have been nice if he could have said something in response to Bush on the NSA scandal, but even though it’s called a “response,” this wasn’t exactly the sort of speech that was written on the fly. Bush sure did give a full-throated defense on that issue, though? Wow. The Dems better do something if they want people to realize Bush told lie after lie after lie.
Imagine, for a moment, that Bush is telling 100% of the truth, and the only people we ever listen to are people on the phone with al-Qaeda. We all know the FISA court would approve a wiretap for that call in a heartbeat, retroactively if necessary. Why the heck make this your hill to die on? Why make it a huge secret and go through Congressional hearings and all that, just to make sure you can do something without a warrant that you could easily obtain a warrant for?
I think intelligent people who have been following the issue pretty much understand that isn’t the full extent of calls they’ve been eavesdropping on. Their position makes absolutely no sense if that’s the case.
Geek, Esq.
I wonder about the conventional wisdom that a party needs to have pretty faces. Might make more sense to have regular or even funny looking folks out there if you want to go populist.
Angela Ferguson
“The eyebrow” …
HA! That’s actually pretty funny! I thought the same thing as I watched him speak but I didn’t think others would focus on the same thing. We are all a bunch of humor freaks! Always looking for a laugh!
:)
Other than that, I thought his speech was really good. Could’ve covered NSA and maybe even Abramoff … maybe … but it was still good.