Another sad milestone in the slow degradation of our armed forces. If anybody has not yet recalibrated their assumptions about Iraq, here are a few pointers:
* The “surge” will not go on because it cannot go on. Sooner rather than later there will be no more wounded, stop-lossed and unrested troops left to send to Iraq.
* Staying in Iraq by definition means leaving America open to external threats. We have already cannibalized our reserve troops, making it impossible to respond to any new threats unless al Qaeda fields a blue water navy. Staying now just prolongs the repair time before our army is ready to fight again.
* We cannot win in Iraq. The “surge” has just squeezed the violence to places where we are not surging, we lack the forces to hold regions that we clear and even that effect will end when we draw down the “surge” troops.
Some of these points may be open to debate, but as far as I can tell the opposing arguments are mostly based on misinformation and gross distortions of fact (see McCain, John). Barring a game changer along the lines of the arrival of the 12th Imam or the Spanish Flu our narrative is already writ in stone. It’s just a matter of when.
Davebo
When considering the total cost of this cluster fuck of a war we have to add in the 400 to 600 billion we’ll be spending to repair/replace equipment used in Iraq as well as the millions in ongoing disability payments and medical care to those brave service members returning home with broken bodies and souls.
To be blunt, we are already at the 1 trillion dollar mark on this blunder.
It’s time to cut our losses, support our troops with more than chinese manufactured magnets, and get the hell out of Iraq.
Perry Como
im in ur military, depleting ur d00ds
Bubblegum Tate
Oh, but we are winning in Iraq, moonbat! In fact, we’ve basically already won, we’re just tying up the loose ends–meanwhile, you sit at home and cheer for America’s defeat.
Sorry…just had to get the obligatory voice from wingnutville out of the way.
Zombie Santa Claus
Clinton fucked up way worse than this. Haven’t any of you moonbats seen “Black Hawk Down”?
28 Percent
That is so wrong. How are you helping our soldiers you are only hurting htem by saying you do not believe our Army is the best. What do they have to be proud of if they cannot do whatever it takes to show how great America is? Especially if we lose to insurgents who are not an Army we beat their army now we can not beat a bunch of people wh just shoot at us and hide. It is telling the world you can do anything if you can hide where we can not find you! If there is a timetable then they will just wait and hide until the time is up and you may think it is like when you play hide-and-go-seek with a kid and let them hide while you fold laundry and watch some TV in peace and quiet until they get tired of hiding and just go play in their rooms but it is not, because this is not a game and if we do not play to win we will be LOSERS! You want to make our brave Soldiers who make sacrifices LOSERS after they have given somuch you just want them to feel bad and keep them from knowing that they won and America is the best. Whether you care or not it is important to some why you do not understand this I do not know.
ed
Dear 28%:
Spoofing is a form of vandalism. And you’re not very good at it.
28 Percent
Whatever you can not answer my argument so you use ad-hominem attacks. It just goes to show that you know that I have the TRUTH on my side.
sfHeath
I first thought 28 Percent was a spoof (I can’t remember the names of all the spoofers in these comments) but the phrase “brave Soldiers who make sacrifices” hit me in the gut and it was no longer funny. Now I return to outrage at the CiC (and at Congress for letting it happen) for sending these men and women off on an undersupported, understaffed, hopeless mission that (even if “successful”) will – at this point – make even more enemies for the USA. How is that worth asking for our soldiers’ sacrifices?
Chad N. Freude
This is what gets to me the most. “We’re fighting them over there so we don’t have to fight them over here.” Right, as long as we keep them busy building IEDs they won’t have the time or the people to slip into the US and, oh, I don’t know, set off a dirty bomb maybe. As long as we pour all of our resources into the whack-a-mole war, they won’t have the resources to, oh, I don’t know, slip a nuclear device through a seaport that we aren’t protecting because the money and personnel are all in Iraq.
How can the Bush Patrol not understand this? But maybe, God help us, this is really the administration of the Manchurian Candidate, and they do.
Chad N. Freude
I hope this is a spoof, but in case it’s not:
He certainly did. Just a few disastrous guys-on-horseback-with-rifles episodes and Clinton stopped pouring money and manpower into a non-Western tribal ethnic war.
Chad N. Freude
Could we kind of ignore 28?
Zombie Santa Claus
Sorry, son. This blog’s Ground Zero of the Spoofosphere. We were here long before you, and we have too many IPs for them to get rid of us even if they wanted to.
Jake
I wonder how this goes with Bush’s promise to protect traditional marriage and family. The last time I checked prolonged deployments are not conducive to happy, healthy one mommy, one daddy families.
Zombie Santa Claus
You’re pretty new around here, fella, so let me suggest that you consider my name, click on the link, and ask yourself if anyone the slightest bit serious would ever post like this.
Zombie Santa Claus
At least Bush has a PLAN to fuck up American families. What’s the Democrats’ alternative?
Fruitbat Jones
I plead The Schultz on this one.
Oh…and Clinton f’ed up our military. Messed it up good. So bad, in fact, that Hannity even acknowledges it. What a handsome man.
Jonathan
tinyurl.com/2uwqn3
Zombie Santa Claus
He almost let teh gayz in. Unforgivable!
Darrell, D'Souza, Delay and Strauss
While Talibani works on dragging the Shia out of Kirkuk, Al-Sistani says screw the Baathists
We’re just a few walks through the market to victory…
Alas, there’s always a silver lining. It’ll be at least a generation before we get into another preventive ground war, and by then we’ll just be using drones and robots.
gex
Bubblegum Tate,
Valiant effort, but the current political climate has taught me one thing – even the most brilliant satirist cannot write a post that will be more extreme than the true 28%ers.
Chad N. Freude
Sorry, Dude. But around here, sometimes it’s hard to tell. Anyway,
My hope is realized.
BTW ZoSaCl, re 28, there are spoofs that demonstrate a modicum of sarcastic wit and spoofs that are simply obnoxious noise. I’ll engage the former (and sometimes be taken in by them, but I’m still new here) but I prefer to ignore the latter.
gex
Running a bunch of presidential candidates with only one marriage a piece?
Chad N. Freude
Gay marriage.
Perry Como
Like we’re supposed to believe some far left radicals like tinyurl.com.
Chad N. Freude
Harvard!! Yale would never publish such subversive defeatist lies.
Fecapult
Spoof or not, I’m fairly amused.
Perhaps we could win if we were the better hiders… :)
28 Percent
This may be true I do not know but I think that if I wrote that if we only outlawed abortion we would have so many more poor young people to join the army and go kill people and get killed and maimed and we cannot stop this because that would hurt the soldiers feelings and if we did this we would finally stop being a Culture of Death that the LIBERALS here would just scream about how stupid and awful I am. Stupid heh go figure how stupid you have to be to say I cannot tell if you are a spoof or not but if you are a spoof you are a bad one and yet they do.
Zombie Santa Claus
True. We have a lot of friendly-fire mishaps on this blog. That goes with the territory when you’re spoofing, though.
Well, before I outed myself and picked this ridiculous name, I considered myself a deep-cover spoof. Had to be believable enough to draw out the moronic wingnuts. Nowadays, that’s behind me, but I have no problem with obvious spoofs like 28% and Darrell keeping up the good work, fighting the good fight so I can take it easy and come up with bizarre crap about The War on Christmas instead.
Touche.
The GOP’s family values are so superior, they have to start two or three families apiece. Meanwhile, feeble Democrat parents can’t even plan a second family. Yet I’m supposed to trust these people with running two wars AND an invasion of Iran?
Zombie Santa Claus
See, personally I think this is pretty good. I like the disjointed, rambling, tirade-style inanity. It’s almost like a prose version of BIRDZILLA.
Davebo
Raed comments on McCain’s shopping trip.
Sort of shrill for an Iraqi I guess but…
raedinthemiddle.blogspot.com/2007/04/dear-john.html
Chad N. Freude
Shouldn’t that be “Tushy”?
Jake
Nice try ZSC but it is a well known fact that Democrats don’t have families. They have weird commune/hive set ups that are run by any number of promiscous “matriarchs” who copulate with wandering tribes of patcholi smeared Birkenstock wearing males and raise the resulting off-spring in large pens. Once the male offspring (colts) learn to walk they are sent to roam with their fathers.
Of course, because the Libs hate life they tend to use birth control and so far their numbers haven’t gotten out of control.
Zombie Santa Claus
No, I ain’t gay. I just ain’t. Mrs. Claus and I have an understanding, but it don’t involve none of that.
I’m hoping that President Huckabee or Brownback or whoever figures out a more permanent solution to this infestation. States like Vermont and California are overrun with clusters like these.
cleek
i ask that we all remove our hats and observe a moment of silence for all the pronouns needlessly slaughtered in the quoted text.
Zombie Santa Claus
They fought and died for America, for freedom.
demimondian
Um, Chad — posting at BJuice is as much performance art as it is bloviating. Sometimes more.
Trust me…you can trust me. Or any of us.
BWAHAHAHAHA!
Perry Como
I see a whole army of pronouns here in defiance of tyranny! You have come to fight as free pronouns. And free pronouns you are! What will you do without freedom? Will you fight?
Fight and you may die. Run and you will live at least a while. And dying in your bed many years from now, would you be willing to trade all the days from this day to that for one chance, just one chance, to come back here as young pronouns and tell our adjectives that they may take our lives but they will never take our freedom!
Chad N. Freude
Not true. The whole world is family.
I don’t want to be rude (which probably disqualifies me from posting here), but I can’t resist this: Oh, bloviate me!
But because pronouns are sometimes ambiguous, they can’t serve in the military.
Chad N. Freude
Take it easy, you look a little Haggard.
Jake
That Foley catheter keeps him up at night.
OT: Under normal circumstances this story wouldn’t make me say “uh oh.” Now, if a young blonde woman goes missing in Iran you’ll know the shit is about to hit.
28 Percent
We are winning they should lose because they hide. If Israel had done what God told them too in Numbers (be sure to read all the comments they will make you think) and wiped out everybody then we would not have any problems witht he middle east today but they did not. So the jews have allowed terrorism ot exist but I do not blame them really I am only saying what is true. Now we have to fight because peace in the middle east is a sign of the Anti-Christ. We have to fight the Anti-Christ because we are God’s nation even though he will bring about the end times which are good because then LIBERALS you will all see how wrong you were and how we won, so it would be good if the anti-christ showed up. I think at least it would be exciting. Because then we would win and not even you peace-mongers could take that victory away no matter how hard you tryed. But I will be sad that you will not be saved too, at least a little bit maybe.
Andrew
Chad is just a spoof who is spoofing ignorance of spoofers.
You have all been had.
Chad N. Freude
Cute.
Face
It should. Watch this story just blow up by the end of the week. Fox will lead with this tonite, and it will get bigger and bigger.
Any….and I mean any…way to connect the U.S. with Iran beligerence (real or imaginary, the righties dont care)…
Andrew
… as a button!
Perry Como
If the Iranians picked this guy up as a suspected spy, the Geneva Conventions wouldn’t apply, right? If the Iranians used unconventional interrogation techniques (like water boarding) would the US have any moral authority to criticize the Iranians?
Chad N. Freude
Of course we would! We have God on our side and really great lawyers to parse out the differences between our behavior and theirs.
scarshapedstar
Yeah, sure, cut and run and let Them think They’ve won. We cannot allow a thought gap! Currently the only reason They don’t know They’ve won is that we have secret mind control devices installed in the Green Zone.
NEVER FORGET
Tsulagi
It depends on whether it’s Jesus or Mohammed telling you Geneva Conventions don’t apply, and how quaint you view them.
Krista
Contender for POTD. Nicely done, sir!
Jake
I believe this was an argument put forward by McMaverick (or one of the Maverettes) back when they were against Unconventional Interrogation Techniques (TM). We should be nice to their guys when we capture them so they’ll be nice to our guys. Of course, since we’ve never had an official list of UITs the US could always say whatever an enemy did to a prisoner Shocks the Conscience or whatever the new standard is these days.
ThymeZone
Heh.
Chad N. Freude
What does the P stand for?
Chad N. Freude
Almost as funny as Andrew Dice Clay.
Punchy
TanKKKredo just announced he’s in fer the Preznetsee thang. Looks like him and Highly Unfortunately Named Since He’s in the Cracker Party Brownback are going to do battle to see who can come up with the most outrageous ethnic slurs on Mexicans.
I think TanKKKredo with start with “beaners”, then I Dont Really Have a Brownback will counter with “Border Pheasants”, or some such bullshit. In the end, they’ll cancel each other out and completely hand the ENTIRE Hispanic voting bloc to the Dems.
Hooray.
Krista
Are you serious? Someone clever enough to have picked the name Chad N. Freude doesn’t know what POTD stands for? Sigh…well, I’ll bite, then. It stands for Post Of The Day. And no, we don’t actually have anything official, it’s simply a way to express admiration for a well-written comment.
Punchy
How about a date with Punchy? (for the lady posters, only…please…not that there’s anything wro….nevermind)
Jake
Sorry Punchy, Newter Gangrene already has that covered and then some.
Newt doesn’t fool around (except with his aides). In just a few terse sentences all tells all non-English speakers to Cheney themselves. Truth2Power. Will he start complaining that the gubbmint wastes our hard earned tax dollars on translation pamphlets for emergency response workers? Stay tuned!
Chad N. Freude
I was when I asked, then I had a smacks-forehead-doh moment but didn’t put up a never-mind post (saving the bandwidth for the troops).
Thank You for the compliment.
Wait — I mean Oh, it was nothing, just a little tidbit that occurred to me one day when I was experiencing the feeling.
Too bad. I was hoping for a statuette, or at least a plaque.
Chad N. Freude
Pathetic plea for help: Would some kind soul please tell me how to consistently get a blank line at the end of a post.
Punchy
You’ve got to be fucking kidding me
For the lazy, here’s the money shot (anyone surprised?):
I’ll again ask–is there ANYBODY in gov’t who’s not a partisan hack? Jesus H….
Chad N. Freude
Who’s in charge here? Lewis Carroll?
Krista
Well, you could have gotten a date with Punchy, but unfortunately, you do not meet the qualification requirements.
And yeah, the name is quite clever, although I’ll bet you that there probably IS someone out there with that exact name. A lot of people just don’t think when naming their kids (case in point, a fellow – now deceased, I believe – from my hometown, who was named Purdy Good. I shit you not, that was his name.)
Chad N. Freude
Ah, but on the internet nobody knows that for certain.
Thanks for thinking I’m clever. It’s you and me against the world, kid. When I disclosed my nom d’écran to a very good friend, he thought it was inane because (a) in his opinion I don’t look like a “Chad”, and (b) he completely missed the pun.
Omigod, as I was typing the above, I flashed on someone saying “Hi ya, Chad, how ya hangin’?” I really need help.
ed
A
Let us never forget Texas oil heiress and community pillar, Ima Hogg.
Rome Again
try typing an html tag for “break” at the end.
Here, let me see if it works, may not, but can’t say without trying…
Rome Again
nope, didn’t work
Rome Again
perhaps a paragraph tag?
I’m not going to try it, you try it this time. LMAO
Krista
Well, you’re in the right place.
No, you won’t get the help you need here, but at least you’ll encounter people who will make you look like the ne plus ultra of sanity.
Grrr
There can’t be much debate when “misinformation and gross distortions of fact” are now seen as the nominal operating standard for conservative apologists these days.
So what. As long as they think that emulating empty-souled tools like Orrin Hatch is the Ultimate Way To The Top of The Dickhead Pyramid, the quicker their doom.
Fuck them. The plug on this stupid war will soon be pulled, and they will all be proven to be liars and idiots.
Zombie Santa Claus
To be fair, Brownback is actually taking a lot of shit from the KKK wing of the RepubliKKKan Party on the issue of granting amnesty to illegal aliens. It’ll probably end up costing him the crucial racist support he needs to win the nomination, since the theocrats and neocons aren’t going to carry him over the top. If you guys read up on your batshit insane rightwing blogs, you’d know this.
Chad N. Freude
Why did you do this??? I looked at that website and must now blind myself and have my brain decontaminated!
Chad N. Freude
Need I add “Aieee!
Zombie Santa Claus
Batshit insanery is the wellspring of spoofdom. You’ve got to read it to learn it.
Chad N. Freude
This is priceless. From a fair and balanced Fox News poll:
Clearly the answer must be a resounding “NO!” It’s unthinkable to have a party taken over by its members!
Darrell, D'Souza, Delay and Strauss
Orrin Hatch for Attorney General. Now that would be funny.
Zombie Santa Claus
I think I should run for President, maybe. I’ll appoint Orrin Hatch. If you’re going to have a government of, by, and for spoofs, you really might as well go balls-out.
Zombie Santa Claus
Bear in mind, you govern a country with the spoofs you have, not the spoofs you wish you had.
Chad N. Freude
As in “What’s that funny smell?”
Zombie Santa Claus
That Brownback blog is funny. Here’s a post where the guy bitches about heliocentrism:
Zombie Santa Claus
They link to Rathergate, too. I always liked Rathergate. Funny, funny, spoofy posts.
Tulkinghorn
blogsforbrownback is art. Tasteless, perhaps, but art.
Chad N. Freude
ZSC, that has to be satire. It cannot possibly be serious. Although some of the commenters appear to be deadly serious about it.
A simple perusal of Genesis… Now there’s a killer argument.
It’s the funniest thing I’ve read in — well, six thousand years. Thanks for this one.
Chad N. Freude
Like Chocolate Jesus. Oh, wait, he’s tasty.
jake
Break out the condoms. Wade Horn has left the building.
Now, someone please tell me that brownbacking blog is a joke. I don’t think Freep would like competition for the fRightiest Blog on the Internons.
p.s. I said horn.
Krista
I wonder if anybody will be making little chocolate Jesuses (Jesi?) in time for Easter?
Krista
Good lord. That’s seriously disturbing to realize that there are people out there who think that way.
jake
You mean like these?
Jesus Christ on a … chocolate crutch they’ve got cruxifixtion lollies. I’m sure if I searched I’d find a confectioners that features different saints achieving martyrdom.
So I ain’t lookin’.
Krista
You know, I’m not even Christian (lapsed Catholic, now agnostic), and yet, I actually do find that chocolate crucifix lolly to be a bit over the line.
Chad N. Freude
I like Girl with Torah Lollipop. Vermeer is one of my favorite Dutch painters.
Tulkinghorn
Anybody offended by the ‘girl with a Torah’ chocolate lollipop? It may be loss offensive to eat a little girl than to eat the Torah, but I am outside my culture on this one…
Rome Again
::knows I’m gonna get flamed for this::
Satan at his finest!
Rome Again
They make the Torahs on Friday, and the Crucifixes on Saturday.
The Easter Bunny
You know, I’d love to make some chocolate Saviors for Easter. Unfotunately, I’m spending all my time wading through the Godforsaken maple fields of Canuckistan, watching my Peeps suffer and die for freedom while you dicklicks piss and moan on this blog about how tough your lives are. Have you ever stepped in a sticky gob of melted marshmallow and sugar that used to be one of your friends, moonbats? Have you? Yeah, I didn’t think so.
Really, fatty? If the walls of the communal showers you had installed in the elf dorms could talk, I bet they’d tell a different story.
What’s a “spoof”?
Chad N. Freude
Only to the extent that I’m offended by vulgarity, inanity, and the transformation of iconic images into something “cute” for kids. Lest that be misunderstood, I do not consider the chocoChrist art(?)work an attempt to be cute nor is it aimed at children, and I don’t find it the least bit offensive. Although it does have a … you know, and some say that’s offensive.
Chad N. Freude
Only to the extent that I’m offended by vulgarity, inanity, and infantilization.
Digital Amish
Come on now, the truth. That’s just you Scrutator folks having a little fun again, isn’t it?
Chad N. Freude
Sorry ’bout that. John’s server seemed to die on the original, so I posted the condensed version. I can’t believe I actually wrote “iconic images.” I will be taken out and shot by a firing squad composed of all my English teachers.
Tulkinghorn
It is hard to tell, which itself tells you something.
Have there been any mirror-image spoof sites where right-wingers pretend to be stupid leftists in order attract a following of ditto-heads to make fun of?
ConservativelyLiberal
Tulkinghorn Says:
Hey, if Jesus floating in a jar of piss is art, just about anything is art…lol!
While that quote sounds like the ultimate spoof, I have to say that I know a few nuts that sound just like that. You can bet I keep them at arms length too as I DO NOT want to engage these nuts in conversation about religion and evolution. It would be a total waste of time, that is for damn sure.
Anyone who knows about carbon dating knows that the bible is a fairy tale. I love reading religious sites that dispute carbon dating, the arguments are so bad that your head feels like it is going to explode trying to understand their verbal contortions. I was an A student in Chem in college, and understanding that was a breeze compared to the religious right and their twisted logic disputing evolution.
While carbon dating will be pretty much useless from the Industrial Revolution onward, it is damn accurate prior to that. We know how Carbon-14 is created (neutrons from cosmic rays striking Nitrogen-14 atoms, converting them to C-14) and that while it is dispersed atmospherically, more of it is created in certain areas of the world that others. Knowing this, it is pretty easy to find the age of something (that was once alive) IF it falls within the age range C-14 dating is accurate to 50,000 years, or up to 100,000 years using more sensitive detection methods like an electron microscope. There are other more sensitive isotopes out there that they can use too, but C-14 is the most common.
That blows the creationism time scale out of the water, and that just pisses them off. And BTW, I am an ex-Catholic and I was brought up to believe in the bible. Heck, I was an altar boy for four years…lol! As a teenager, I realized that what I read in the bible did not match the emperical evidence at hand. When I was able to confirm this, the bible became a book with some odd stories in it.
I am not an atheist, but I do not believe in God in the way that Christianity does. I have no idea what my concept would fall under, but I do not care as I do not feel the need to worship some unknown entity/deity to earn my way into heaven. I will live a good life and treat others well, helping out those I can while I wander my way through life. I do not need an assurance that after my life is over that I will have another one that will last forever. I am quite happy to live the one I am, and that is enough for me.
If I go to hell, so be it… ;)
jake
All of this crap is bizarre. It’s like a well-intentioned alien thought: People like chocolate, what can we make out of chocolate? Don’t ask me to explain but it makes my brain itch.
Plus on this same site one can purchase such essentials as the “I love BJ Kit” and, possibly the worst idea of the 21st century: edible condoms.
No, no, no, no. Religion and dick-shaped candies don’t go together. [Insert Catholic Priest joke here.]
Tulkinghorn
Actually, there is a whole set of arguments against carbon-14 dating. Since relatively recent items can give you a date such AD 1200 +/- 350 years it is a small step to convince the uneducated that all c14 dating is dubious. As usual, the creationists ignore all the other isotopes, or Electron Spin Resonance, or the entire fields of Geology, Astronomy, and so on. If you argue on the basis of C14 alone, they will be pretty resistant.
Now of course you can just ask them where the Bible literally states that the earth was made 6000 years ago, and watch all the inferential steps the literalists will have to take…
jake
Heh. For yet more amusement, ask them how they know a “day” to God is the same as our 24-hour day. You can also request a cogent explanation of how God created just two people, they had two sons, one son whacked the other and then the remaining son went off and got married to a woman from some other group of people.
Scruffy McSnufflepuss
God, those people are fucking nuts.
J.D. Rhoades
The problems with satirizing wingnuts is that so many of them are so far out, their rantings sound like satire when they’re serious.
Tim F.
They start Kos diaries. For them it’s a two-fer, since they can and use their real blog to gin up outrage at the crazy people at Kos.
Tim F.
there’s an ‘and’ in there that don’t belong. anyhow.
Punchy
Incest, baby. Incest. Had to be. Also, ask them who actually knows what God did vis-a-vis creating the Earth, since no one was around until Day 7. How do they know what God did on, say, day 3, besides probably (cuz if you’re God, why not?) pop open a brew or three and check out some online porn….
Chad N. Freude
Ha! God was around from before day 1, and Genesis is the Word of God. Therefore we know exactly what happened before people were intelligently designed into existence. QED. So there, Smartass! Another victory in the War Between Revealed Religious Certain Knowledge and Atheist Evolution Lies.
Fecapult
This begs the question: What all excatly was he doing before day 1? And how long was that anyway? Was he just real lazy before he up and decided to get around to, you know, actually DOING something with himself? How long did it take him to self-motivate, without a mother to call and nitpick on a daily basis?
Zifnab
Humanity existed on Day 6, lib-tard. This just shows you for your stupid aethist devil lies that you are.
Andrew
Hey guys, have you heard about the “suiciders who kill innocent lives?”
Question to Republicans: What the fuck is wrong with you?
Scruffy McSnufflepuss
Either that, or they fucked the space aliens. It isn’t ruled out in the Bible, so it’s what I’ll believe. Chariots of the Gods, baby. The moonbat’s retort to religious fundamentalist crazies.
Good stuff. Suicide should be illegal, punishable by the death penalty. That’ll make people think twice before killing themselves.
Scruffy McSnufflepuss
I used to think some of the liberals who posted around here were actually conservative spoofs. Paddy O’Shea was almost like a wingnut parody of a leftist, for example.
Jake
I thought perhaps the fight between Cain and Abel was over an attractive sheep. That would explain the large numbers of sheeple.
28 Percent
That is a very good question Fecapult (if that is your real name). That is what GOOD science is all about, proving what we know is true from the Bible. So it would be good to use science to find out what happened before The First Day. Maybe nothing because that was the first day and there was no time before then I do not know. But it is a good question.
Pb
Name that quote…
John S.
You are either a spoof or an idiot. Pick one.
ConservativelyLiberal
As you said, C-14 is only one method of dating, but lately it has been refined tremendously by further study as to how C-14 is created and dispersed on earth. Knowing this, they have been able to further narrow down the +/- factors better. But not everyone is queued in to it yet. Still, even with +/- factors it still blows the 6,000 year timeline out of the water. Or the 12,000, or the 13,000 (they keep moving the target…).
What I like to point out too is that how on earth is God going to find the 144,000 male virgins for heaven during the apocalypse. Not just any 144,000 people, but 144,000 MALE VIRGINS…
Heaven sounds like a sausagefest… I think I like the 72 virgins that Islam offers…lol! Regarding Adam & Eve, I think the fight over the sheep is right. There are far too many sheeple today.
chopper
the story of cain and abel is a metaphor. it’s an announcement essentially saying ‘attention reader: here’s a story to let the idea really sink in that your ass shouldn’t take all the stuff that follows too seriously‘.