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Live so that if you miss a day of work people aren’t hoping you’re dead.

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This country desperately needs a functioning fourth estate.

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The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand.

This blog will pay for itself.

My years-long effort to drive family and friends away has really paid off this year.

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You are so fucked. Still, I wish you the best of luck.

I desperately hope that, yet again, i am wrong.

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This must be what justice looks like, not vengeful, just peaceful exuberance.

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And the re-design is, for all intents and purposes, complete.

There will be a few additions and adjustments tomorrow, I think we are adding some addons and stuff so you crazy kids can DIGG things, but right now I am pretty satisfied with the basic layout and look.

It is clean, functional, loads quickly, the comments work, and just has a nice, shiny, new look to it, and the color scheme is pretty much as it was on the last version.

And, if you need your site designed, let me recommend Sekimori, who does a great job and is super easy to work with.

*** Update ***

And the image is creating an optical illusion making the website look slanted.

First post with the new design- FAIL.

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222Comments

  1. 1.

    Comrade Snark Based Reality

    There is a bug in the previous post. The page goes completely black after comment #191 or somewhere around there.

  2. 2.

    Comrade Fedorovich Stuck

    There is a bug in the previous post. The page goes completely black after comment #191 or somewhere around there.

    Yea, I was going to say the same thing. More bugs to be chased away in coming days, I suppose.

  3. 3.

    ninerdave

    First post with the new design- FAIL.

    Good job, way to fuck the new site up.

    There is a bug in the previous post. The page goes completely black after comment #191 or somewhere around there.

    Actually it looks like it just creates a ton of empty space. Scroll up to find the comments.

  4. 4.

    Comrade Warren Terra

    Let me be the nth to congratulate you. The site looks too shiny … it’s time to muck it up with comments sections full of medium-grade snark, occasional profanity, and flamewars! We’ve got to get some especially loathdome trolls installed ASAP!

  6. 6.

    Comrade Snark Based Reality

    Actually it looks like it just creates a ton of empty space. Scroll up to find the comments.

    Nah, this is a rendering bug or something. It is totally black and covering up comments.

    Also it would be nice to get the bold attribute removed from blockquotes as the resulting font is way too large on my system.

    Otherwise I like the look, good work! :)

  9. 9.

    Comrade Incertus

    Very very nice. If I had the traffic to warrant burning actual money on a redesign, I’d take your recommendation. Instead I’ll deal with blogger templates and try not to fuck them up too badly.

  12. 12.

    Comrade Snark Based Reality

    Still bugged for me. The post trying alert() wasn’t the cause.

    Would a screenshot help?

  15. 15.

    DrDave

    It looks nice but I will bet that you are going to miss us telling you

    YOUR FUCKING SERVER SUCKS COLE

  16. 16.

    Dennis - SGMM

    Very nice. Thank you John, Annette and Sekimori for your work on the site and for being amazingly forebearing while some of us bitch.

  20. 20.

    tripletee (formerly tBone)

    There is a bug in the previous post. The page goes completely black after comment #191 or somewhere around there.

    I’m seeing this too, but only in Firefox 3 (renders fine in IE7 and Chrome). It seems to be affecting all of the longer comment threads (125+ posts).

    Also, the right sidebar is borked in IE7 – long lines aren’t wrapping properly.

  23. 23.

    amorphous

    Oh, and (maybe it’s old and I’ve just never noticed) the new motto should be something like “Consistently wrong from 2002 to say 2006 or so, then increasing in levels of correctness until hitting the nail on the head frequently in 2008. Plus: Michael D.”

  24. 24.

    Comrade Fedorovich Stuck

    I’m seeing this too, but only in Firefox 3 (renders fine in IE7 and Chrome)

    Firefox 3, my browser. Am allergic to IE/ hope can be fixed.

  25. 25.

    Comrade Snark Based Reality

    Oh, and (maybe it’s old and I’ve just never noticed) the new motto should be something like “Consistently wrong from 2002 to say 2006 or so, then increasing in levels of correctness until hitting the nail on the head frequently in 2008. Plus: Michael D.”

    Shouldn’t that be “Plus: Incoherent Posts From A Gay Guy”?

  26. 26.

    Polish the Guillotines

    There is a bug in the previous post. The page goes completely black after comment #191 or somewhere around there.

    Another confirmation: Happens with FireFox 2.x, but not with IE 7.x.

  30. 30.

    Polish the Guillotines

    All snark aside, this is a really nice upgrade.

    And returning to snark, the preview is dinky. I mean it’s really, really tiny. And it still lies like McCain.

  31. 31.

    NonyNony

    Oh, and (maybe it’s old and I’ve just never noticed) the new motto should be something like “Consistently wrong from 2002 to say 2006 or so, then increasing in levels of correctness until hitting the nail on the head frequently in 2008. Plus: Michael D.”

    Naw. The slogan still works. And it should keep our esteemed host humble since it should remind him of his vast archives that he can visit when he starts to feel good about himself :)

  33. 33.

    kvenlander

    This makes me very very happy. (via Emptywheel).

    Today in the Senate:

    Obama stood chatting with Democrats on his side of the aisle, and McCain stood on the Republican side of the aisle.

    So Obama crossed over into enemy territory.

    He walked over to where McCain was chatting with Republican Sen. Mel Martinez of Florida and Independent Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman of Connecticut. And he stretched out his arm and offered his hand to McCain.

    McCain shook it, but with a “go away” look that no one could miss. He tried his best not to even look at Obama.

    Finally, with a tight smile, McCain managed a greeting: “Good to see you.”

    The guy knows what he’s doing.

  34. 34.

    blogreeder

    The comments page turns black in firefox 2 also. It’s a pretty cool effect. You’re scrolling down through the comments and then it’s like “Sorry you can’t go any further” and the whole page gets blacked out.

    I switched over to IE 7 but got a lot of error popups.

  38. 38.

    Polish the Guillotines

    The comments page turns black in firefox 2 also. It’s a pretty cool effect. You’re scrolling down through the comments and then it’s like “Sorry you can’t go any further” and the whole page gets blacked out.

    Seriously. It’s like FireFox has an adult bookstore plug-in.

  39. 39.

    Comrade The Other Steve

    The ie6sux.js sucks…

    var sfEls = document.getElementById(“navbar”).getElementsByTagName(“li”);

    Throws a big null reference, because there is no element with the id of navbar.

    I don’t see a navbar anywhere, so I have no clue why this is there.

  40. 40.

    cain

    Penguano? Is this some kind of penguin shit? You dissing GNU/Linux, motherfucker? Don’t make me put a cap in your candy ass, bitch!

    :)
    cain

  43. 43.

    Martin

    I’m seeing this too, but only in Firefox 3 (renders fine in IE7 and Chrome). It seems to be affecting all of the longer comment threads (125+ posts).
    Also, the right sidebar is borked in IE7 – long lines aren’t wrapping properly.

    Everything looks great in non-shitty browsers, aka Safari.

    Nice job.

  45. 45.

    demimondian

    Penguano? Is this some kind of penguin shit? You dissing GNU/Linux, motherfucker?

    So, does anybody have the heart to tell Mr. Cain what I think of Gnot/LinSUX?

  47. 47.

    Comrade Peter J

    There is a bug in the previous post. The page goes completely black after comment #191 or somewhere around there.

    I too get them in Firefox 3.
    No problems with Opera though.

    Penguano? Is this some kind of penguin shit? You dissing GNU/Linux, motherfucker? Don’t make me put a cap in your candy ass, bitch!

    Penguino!!!

  48. 48.

    Annette

    Can’t see the problem in FF 3.0.3 or IE7 or Safari. Looking through the comments in that thread, I also don’t see anyone playing games with tags. Odd…

  51. 51.

    Dennis - SGMM

    Annette, I’m running FF 3.0.3 on Win2K and the page is black from the middle of comment #202 to the bottom.

  52. 52.

    Notorious P.A.T.

    McCain shook it, but with a “go away” look that no one could miss. He tried his best not to even look at Obama.

    Finally, with a tight smile, McCain managed a greeting: “Good to see you.”

    What’s he got against Obama?

  53. 53.

    tripletee (formerly tBone)

    Everything looks great in non-shitty browsers, aka Safari.

    Safari? I thought you were one of those latte-slurping OmniWeb elitists.

    Speaking of elitists – I posted about this in the other thread but I think it got lost in the shuffle. Anyone else tried posting from mobile Safari since the WP upgrade? I’m getting really bad keyboard lag and trying to backspace usually results in the key sticking and deleting the entire comment. (And no, this is isn’t the keyboard lag from the 2.0/2.1 firmwares – I’m only seeing it here.)

  54. 54.

    Comrade Mary, Would-Be Minion Of Bad Horse

    Hey! I take one freaking evening off with my boyfriend and you sneak this one by?

    *sigh*

    Looks good. You’re forgiven.

    (Let’s see if Preview still lies about asterisks not bolding text.)

  57. 57.

    Citizen Kit

    Quite nice. I especially like the banner at the top of the page. Very crisp and elegant.
    Seems pretty fast, too!

  59. 59.

    Beej

    Really nice, John! Clean, interesting, and the new font is easier on these old eyes. Nice work all.

  63. 63.

    KRK

    Wow. Very impressive. Thanks, John and Annette and whomever else was involved.

    I’m one who tends to respond negatively to change, even improvements, so it was heartening to see this:

    First post with the new design- FAIL.

    Now that’s Balloon Juice I can believe in.

    As for glitches, at the risk of revealing myself to be a complete moran, it seems that I’m no longer able to scroll down on Balloon Juice. I used to be able to, and I still can on other websites, but the old PageDown button is doing nothing for me here.

  65. 65.

    The People's Glorious Pantload of Studliness

    At last, the revolution is at hand. The people of America are ready to stand up to tyranny, to the plundering of our great land, to the accursed Republican party, and look to a bold future, lead by Barack Obama and–

    Ooo, pretty font! Nice banner! And are those numbered comments in alternating tones?

    Quoth the raven, “Nevermore.”

    OK, the blockquotes are a tad loud. But, hey, the perfect is the enemy of good, eh?

  66. 66.

    Walker

    Testing blockquote.

    In preview blockquote looks okay (e.g. normal size, not bold). This post is a test to see what happens when it goes live.

  67. 67.

    Chuck Butcher

    Nice, faster and good looking, comfortable comments separations. Now if it just lets me in fairly regularly I’ll be damned near ecstatic. I miss a fair amount because I honestly don’t have time to keep screwing with BJ.

    thanks Annette and …

  69. 69.

    Martin

    Safari? I thought you were one of those latte-slurping OmniWeb elitists.

    I go back and forth (looking at the new inspector tools in the webkit nightlies). OmniWeb uses webkit, so for rendering they’re the same thing anyway, but OmniWeb has per-site prefs, better tabs, workspaces, and preserves windows (remembers all your tabs when you quit and reloads them).

  71. 71.

    binzinerator

    I like it except for most of the fonts. They render grainy on my windoze xp box using ‘Fox (I’ve not tried it with anything else yet).

    But oddly, the text for the post title

    Thar She Blows… Balloon Juice v. 3.0

    looks great. Smooth, crisp, even the curvy ‘S’ and the slanty ‘w’. It looks very good even though it’s bold. The bold text in the comments looks like krap. The comment text, which is finer/smaller, is worse. Hard to read. Like I said, fonts looks grainy. Maybe it’s my machine…

  72. 72.

    Polish the Guillotines

    I like it except for most of the fonts. They render grainy on my windoze xp box using ‘Fox (I’ve not tried it with anything else yet).

    Do you have ClearType enabled in XP?

  73. 73.

    Calouste

    The site completely disappears in IE8 btw (i.e. white browser window), although it does work in compatibility mode.

    Other than that, and that the font of the posts is a bit too tiny, it works fast and looks great (about as great as Obama’s current polling figures).

  74. 74.

    Bad Horse's Filly

    McCain shook it, but with a “go away” look that no one could miss. He tried his best not to even look at Obama.

    If someone can find a clip of this incident, I ask that John post it on the front page of BJ. It’s great to read, but I want to see it go viral, if at all possible.

    Did I mention I really like the new design?

  75. 75.

    The People's Glorious Pantload of Studliness

    KRK @ 63: I got that too, but now – *poof* – it’s gone, and my arrow keys and page-up and page-down keys are fully functional.

    I’m rather unused to getting such great service without having to leave a bunch of twenties on the dresser…

  76. 76.

    binzinerator

    I meant of course the font used for the post title ‘Thar She Blows… Balloon Juice v. 3.0’ looks great. The text when blockquoted looks bad.

  77. 77.

    iluvsummr

    Latest lizard tongue sighting from the Des Moines Register (video title – John McCain: I’m an underdog).

    Happens after McCain says “I’m very proud of my running mate.” Hmm.

    <img src=”http://www.ogunyemi.net/lizardtongue.jpg” alt=”Lizard Tongue” >

  78. 78.

    Annette

    Exclamations are being picked up as image tags, with the source being the mark itself. Now that’s a weird one.

    single !

    double !!

    triple !!!

  81. 81.

    The People's Glorious Pantload of Studliness

    Triple exclamation marks wigged out that way in ye olden days, too. Perhaps a built-in feature to keep everyone from getting too excited?

  83. 83.

    Alan

    I like it.

    BUT…

    I just looked at it from my iPhone. The mobile edition’s font size is way WAY too small. If you could get the designer to bump up the pixel size a few points it would make it readable. Or dump the mobile version completely. The regular site should be work fine.

  84. 84.

    Alan

    I like it.

    BUT…

    I just looked at it from my iPhone. The mobile edition’s font size is way WAY too small. If you could get the designer to bump up the pixel size a few points it would make it readable. Or dump the mobile version completely. The regular site should be work fine.

  86. 86.

    Chuck

    Wow, it’s gorgeous in Firefox, IE, and Chrome. I don’t know if anyone else has seen this, but the text appears a distressingly low-contrast gray in Opera 9.51 for me. But not a real issue, since there are about 22 other people in America who use this browser. And I can override the styles in the browser anyway.

  88. 88.

    iluvsummr

    Trying this again:

    Latest lizard tongue sighting from the Des Moines Register (video – John McCain: I’m an underdog). Happens right after McCain says “I’m very proud of my running mate.”

    <img src=”http://www.ogunyemi.net/lizardtongue.jpg” alt=”Lizard tongue” >

  89. 89.

    Annette

    OK, here’s the deal with exclamations, which should be fun for those of you having trouble posting images. The exclamations are a shortcut that allow you to post an image without bothering with any code. Prepend and append your link with exclamations. Image posted as above, no fuss, no muss, no tinking with the HTML or the weirdness of the plugin. This is why the triples alone are not working: there is no image called !

    Handy.

  90. 90.

    Cain

    Chuck Butcher, Stacy did the design. So you can thank her.

    So, does anybody have the heart to tell Mr. Cain what I think of Gnot/LinSUX?

    Looks like you made it quite clear. [smirk] We can do my OS is dah awesome, your OS sucks your momma’s ass on a slow news day, ya bum.

    cain

  91. 91.

    Alan

    Strange, in Safari I see two scroll bars off to the right. The regular page scroll bar and one just inside of it. When I add a character into the text editor the inside scroll bar disappears. Odd.

  95. 95.

    The People's Glorious Pantload of Studliness

    McCain’s lizard tongue thingy could just be an idiosyncratic tic. I kinda have one of my own, where I tend to curl my lip over my front teeth for no reason. That, or it’s a remnant reflex from when he had to snatch flies out of the air for protein back when he was a

    POW!!

  96. 96.

    TenguPhule

    Happens after McCain says “I’m very proud of my running mate.” Hmm.

    John McCain, “V” Alien.

    It would be irresponsible not to investigate with a full body scan.

  97. 97.

    iluvsummr

    For me the new BJ design looks best in Safari (gorgeous and crisp), followed by Opera and worst is Firefox 3.0.3 (text in the masthead is blurry). I mostly use Firefox. Is there going to be a Mac OS X version of Google Chrome? I’d really like to test that.

  98. 98.

    ThymeZone

    From the senior bitch and moan specialist around here:

    Just a damn minute!

    Oh, wait. It looks good. Nice job. Good work.

    Congrats.

    Wait! NO SMILEY SELECTOR?

  99. 99.

    Alan

    Ah, I found out the reason for the double scroll bars in Safari. It’s something I did by increasing the font size. It’s not a design flaw at all.

  101. 101.

    ThymeZone

    Looks good here on the Blackberry, too.

    The new moderation scheme sucks though. Can you fic post 99? Thx

  102. 102.

    Martin

    Is there going to be a Mac OS X version of Google Chrome?

    Yes. I know the person working on it. It’s got a ways to go.

  106. 106.

    etoipi

    the right-hand scroll bar in both Camino and Safari for Mac cover part of the right-hand column rather than sitting to the right of everything… never seen that before.

  107. 107.

    The People's Glorious Pantload of Studliness

    Oo, Annette, le’me try! If it works, yer a goddess! If not, yer – er, just an average, Jane six-pack immortal.

    Wonder exclamation points — reveal the image

  108. 108.

    iluvsummr

    The People’s Glorious Pantload of Studliness Says
     
    McCain’s lizard tongue thingy could just be an idiosyncratic tic.
     

    I have a hunch it happens mostly when he knows he’s lying his ass off. But it’s just a hunch :).

  109. 109.

    Annette

    The People’s Glorious Pantload of Studliness @ 108

    Just a single exclamation before and after your image link. That will do it for you.

  110. 110.

    iluvsummr

    Martin says
     

    Is there going to be a Mac OS X version of Google Chrome?

    Yes. I know the person working on it. It’s got a ways to go.

    Good to know someone’s working on it.

    Now let’s see if those nested blockquotes work…

  112. 112.

    The People's Glorious Pantload of Studliness

    Man, I just ain’t got the mojo.

    Think I’m gonna go drown my sorrows in a maritime border, somewheres…

  114. 114.

    Alan

    Honestly ThymeZone, couldn’t the font be bumped up a couple pixels to make is just a little bit more readable? On my iPhone, it’s like reading the extra fine print on a legal contract–the print that’s not intended to be read.

  116. 116.

    ThymeZone

    Honestly ThymeZone, couldn’t the font be bumped up a couple pixels

    Yeah, I saw your earlier and so I was on the lookout for that on the Bberry. Amazingly, it looks really good. But the blackberry is not usually representative of other devices out there, so your mileage may vary considerably. The Fruit has a mind of its own …..

    I’m fine with making it a little bigger on the mobile version if necessary for all the various devices out there.

  117. 117.

    CIRCVS MAXIMVS MMVIII

    I’m so proud of John, that when he got more nuanced and decided to expand his world from black and white, he added “Democratic Blue”

    ;)

    Looks good. Congrats.

    Oh, and I see a new email link that WORKS? WOW, amazing shit!

  118. 118.

    CIRCVS MAXIMVS MMVIII

    Do we still have to use multiple ellipsi to include multi-paragraphed blockquoted text? Just checking.

  122. 122.

    HumboldtBlue

    Seems awfully “Carolina Blue” to me. Then again, that’s just me.

    Maybe it’s the Confederate gray.

    Grant did make use of balloons.

  123. 123.

    CIRCVS MAXIMVS MMVIII

    What exactly should work? I would like to know so if I choose to add images (I’m a graphic artist but no one here knows that, except TZ) I can follow the directions.

    ;)

  124. 124.

    CIRCVS MAXIMVS MMVIII

    The Carolinas are typically red states, this is Democratic Blue.

    ::sticks out tongue::

  126. 126.

    iluvsummr

    Thanks Annette – the exclamation mark trick worked with a .jpg. Looks like it doesn’t work with .png files which is what studly pantload linked to.

  128. 128.

    CIRCVS MAXIMVS MMVIII

    Is there anyway we can add a “add a graphic” button to the comments buttons so it works effortlessly? Just curious.

  130. 130.

    bago

    According to RFC 3986 BNF ‘!’ is a Uri sub-delimiter. Might want to choose another character.

    gen-delims = “:” / “/” / “?” / “#” / “[” / “]” / “@”
    sub-delims = “!” / “$” / “&” / “‘” / “(” / “)” / “*” / “+” / “,” / “;” / “=”

  135. 135.

    Martin

    png’s don’t render in IE due to a transparency issue and some legal thing.

    That legal thing is that MS is fucked up.

  136. 136.

    stickler

    ….
    I am all atwitter. What a beautiful site.

    Now for the iron test: will I get the dreaded WordPress Error?

    The world waits with baited breath …

  137. 137.

    CIRCVS MAXIMVS MMVIII

    “Consistently wrong since 2002”

    John, I think it’s cute, but you’re never going to hear the end of that. It will be used against you constantly by right-wingers.

  138. 138.

    Annette

    bago @ 136

    IE renders .png files without any problem at all, so I’m not sure what legal (or other) issue you’re referring to there. The image to which those attempts to link were made is here and it works fine when called directly in any browser. There seems to be something about .pngs in the src tag that’s the problem.

  140. 140.

    Martin

    The world waits with baited breath …

    It’s ‘bated breath’, btw.

    Apologies, I have kids. Everything has become a lesson.

  142. 142.

    KCinDC

    Looks good, John.

    I hope Gwen Ifill has her countertops in order. The wingnuts are a-buzzing at Wikipedia and elsewhere spreading the dirt. So far she’s guilty of living in federally subsidized housing at one point in her childhood as well as being over 50 and unmarried, and she got her first job in journalism only because someone wrote a racially offensive note to her when she was an intern and the newspaper was afraid she would sue. Presumably new horrors will be dredged up tomorrow and Friday.

  144. 144.

    CIRCVS MAXIMVS MMVIII

    Sarah Palin is NOT the next vice president. Have you looked at the polls?

    Even CNN is stating John McCain is going to have a really difficult task winning the presidency.

  145. 145.

    ripshaw

    Way to go you fucking douche bag liberals. You fucked the house vote up, now we have a pork laden bail out bill $100 billion over Paulson’s. Good job.

    Idiots.

  147. 147.

    CIRCVS MAXIMVS MMVIII

    Does this mean we can substitute the exclamation mark for the image source tag?

  148. 148.

    Martin

    Win

    The comments picking movie titles are hilarious. I’m ashamed that it’s happening at politico and not here.

  149. 149.

    iluvsummr

    CIRCVS MAXIMVS MMVIII says
     
    Does this mean we can substitute the exclamation mark for the image source tag?
     

    Yup – and you don’t need quotes around the url.

  150. 150.

    josephdietrich

    One note: CSS “background-color” is your friend. I have my browser’s default background color set to a bright purple for web-development purposes, and now Balloon Juice looks like Grape Juice.

  151. 151.

    Annette

    Does this mean we can substitute the exclamation mark for the image source tag?

    One leading and one trailing mark, yes:

    (exclamation)(image link, remember .pngs don’t seem to work)(exclamation)

    Hopefully the above won’t set off some other hidden trick in this thing.

  152. 152.

    CIRCVS MAXIMVS MMVIII

    Martin, you get your jollies easily. It takes much more than that for me. And of course, the only appropriate title would have been “Drill Here, Drill Now”.

  153. 153.

    CIRCVS MAXIMVS MMVIII

    One note: CSS “background-color” is your friend. I have my browser’s default background color set to a bright purple for web-development purposes, and now Balloon Juice looks like Grape Juice.

    LMAO!

  154. 154.

    bago

    Well, It’s had a rough histroy with IE. I last worked on the IE team doing their anti-Phishing tech, and that was right around the launch of 7.

    NG has a fair share of issues, which prevent it from being used on the web to its full potential, especially with Internet Explorer (Windows).[15]

    * 4.0 crashes on large PNG chunks.[16]
    * 4.0 does not include the functionality to view .png files[17], but there is a registry fix[18].
    * 5.0 and 5.01 has broken OBJECT support.[19]
    * 5.01 prints palette images with black (or dark gray) backgrounds under Windows 98, sometimes with radically altered colors.[20]
    * 6.0 fails to display PNG images of 4097 or 4098 bytes in size.[21][22]
    * 6.0 cannot open a PNG file that contains one or more zero-length IDAT chunks.[23]
    * 6.0 sometimes completely loses ability to display PNGs[24], there are various fixes[25]
    * 6.0 and below fails to display PNG images used as CSS background.[26]
    * 6.0 and below has inconsistent/broken gamma support.[27]
    * 6.0 and below has no ICC-profile (iCCP) support.[28]
    * 6.0 and below has no color-correction support.[29]
    * 6.0 and below has progressive display of interlaced images (replicating method).[citation needed]
    * 6.0 and below has broken alpha-channel transparency support (will display the default background color instead)[30][31][32]. However there are various fixes:

    It’s fixed. Yaay!

  155. 155.

    Big E

    re:Penguano? Is this some kind of penguin shit? You dissing GNU/Linux, motherfucker? Don’t make me put a cap in your candy ass, bitch!
    :) cain

    dewde…. chill…. yo crazy boy…..
    it’s like a NHL hockey team in Pissburg, ya know,

  156. 156.

    PC

    The comments picking movie titles are hilarious. I’m ashamed that it’s happening at politico and not here.

    Holy fuck. “Meat the Press” is brilliant.

  157. 157.

    bago

    Curious, what is the reasoning for the br blockquote cutoff? If it’s a quote it’s oing to be pasted, and not massaged for this particular filter. If it’s a trolling protection measure, you might want to up the bugger a bit, as the (I assume DIV holding the blockquote doesn’t have THAT much of a border. Perhaps a script to scan blockquotes for blank newlines and cutting them off after a threshold of ten or so. About one screenworth.

  158. 158.

    CIRCVS MAXIMVS MMVIII

    Yup – and you don’t need quotes around the url.

    Very cool. Thank you.

    I get the format, exclamation marks where the tags would have been. I won’t be linking to any png’s.

    :)

  162. 162.

    Johnny Pez

    you’re never going to hear the end of that. It will be used against you constantly by right-wingers.

    As a great man once said, “I welcome their hate.”

  164. 164.

    Billy K

    “Balloon Juice V3.0 – Now Only 5 Years out-of-Date!”

    Kidding. KIDDING. This is my favorite blog or something, blah blah blah…

  167. 167.

    The Glorious People's Pantload of Studliness

    CIRCVS MAXIMVS MMVIII:

    Wassamatta U? Touch a nerve? Gawd, I farkin’ hope so. There’s still five weeks to go — get out there and go Tanya Harding* on those die-hard Republican voters, mate!

    *Figuratively, kids. Figuratively.

  168. 168.

    SGEW

    Holy spitoons of Pazuzu!

    I come over to check out B-J before bed, and this is what I find?

    . . .

    Change is scary.

  169. 169.

    bago

    Also, PC. Short for PlanetCrap. A website with no trolling control methods. An interesting site where the break the page threads and absurd posting was funny. Because of the history of strict non-moderation trolls either became members or cooked up even better trolls. Are you Nutty?

  170. 170.

    SGEW

    All these changes, and yet all I ever wanted was for the Pajamas Media ads to go away.

    Oh well. One thing at a time, I suppose.

  171. 171.

    Annette

    Well, It’s had a rough histroy with IE

    Most things do. However, a technical limitation that sometimes does/sometimes does not cause problems with displays of certain filetypes is not the same thing as those filetypes never displaying at all. The very history you quote reflects that.

    With regard to your troll control comment relative to blockquotes: no idea what you’re talking about, since that has no relevance in any such control.

  172. 172.

    Ninerdave

    Seems on Camino, that after ~150 posts, the comment box goes away and is instead replaced by a ton of white space and some weird rapid scrolling behavior after the last post.

    I’m probably the only Camino user on this blog (seriously Mac people it’s a great browser) but it would be nice to see if this fixed.

  173. 173.

    A la lanterne les aristos

    The comments picking movie titles are hilarious. I’m ashamed that it’s happening at politico and not here.

    Too true, ImPalin’ Sarah and Putin Rears His Head made me lol.

    And I must say, the quality of their trolls over there is far inferior to our lot. I do hope the shiny new redesign doesn’t scare ’em off.

    …

    Hmmm, didn’t there use to be a preview around here somewhere?

  174. 174.

    bago

    As the history shows, it’s not the filetype, but particular rendering errors. In general MS avoided using PNG because any one of those bugs could bite them in the ass. As a rule of thumb, microsoft sites didn’t use PNG files.

    There’s the whole political thing too, where DHTML was kind of put on hold after IE 4 because it was about to make webapps too easy to develop, and why you see chrome moving into that market from google.

    Also, that history of the bugs was supposed to be included in the blockquote, but it cut off early, hence my comment.

  175. 175.

    ShouldKnowBetter

    By the by; In Firefox, after the last post the page was cut off halfway through the reply box and blackness ate the rest of the page.

    In Chrome it looks (more or less) fine, preview and all. Although it did load a little slow.

    For yucks I checked IE and the bottom of the page looks fine, the font is gorgeous, but the text on the right of the page (blogrolls, etc) continue past the page. Also there’s an extra scroll bar, from an extra frame I guess. But the text sure looks purty.

    All of which you probably know.

  177. 177.

    xyzzy

    Are you seriously still a part of that Pajamas Media bullshit, John? If not, take it off your sidebar.

  178. 178.

    Calliope

    The new design looks great. Nice job!

    I was just going through the McCain Des Moines Register interviews and came across a gem. A woman asks McCain if he’s always, in his adult life, been covered by a taxpayer financed health care plan?

    McCain: “I was out of the military for a while before I went to Congress, but, uh, you know, that’s an interesting statement, isn’t it. So…and I have never been an astronaut, but I think I know the challenges of space.”

    WTF?

    Apparently Krista’s great crack came to McCain’s attention — but he got it wrong. Or perhaps he does believe that seeing the moon out your bedroom window makes you a fucking astronaut.

    And bless his little heart, I certainly believe that after living on his wife’s hundred million dollars for 30 odd years, McCain is keenly aware of just how little health care his $2,500 per individual is going to buy. NOT.

  179. 179.

    Ash Can

    He walked over to where McCain was chatting with Republican Sen. Mel Martinez of Florida and Independent Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman of Connecticut. And he stretched out his arm and offered his hand to McCain.

    im in ur senate fuckin with ur hed

  180. 180.

    bago

    In other words they ask for a png, it passes filetype filters, and tells some browsers to render the according bytes to Content-type text/html, and therefore injects a script in the bytes. Some browsers (like FF2) accept the body in body html violation and render the blob as a background element with color set to FFFFFF, making the black bar of death.

  181. 181.

    cain

    dewde…. chill…. yo crazy boy…..
    it’s like a NHL hockey team in Pissburg, ya know,

    It was in jest. :) You had to imagine it with that angry picture of McCain above.

    cain

  182. 182.

    null pointer exception

    Whoa! Whoa! Whoa!

    I just leave for a day to travel half way across the world, and everything here has turned pretty and shiny!

    Hey, this site looks really good in IE. Now if you could fix the issues with FireFox 3 …

  183. 183.

    null pointer exception

    Cool. Obama bought an entire Dish Network channel. Someone check it out.

    Hahaha I did a google search for this and ended up on Malkin’s website. Boy those wingnuts are undergoing a severe depression.

  184. 184.

    Comrade Scrutinizer

    I’m using ff2 and I get the dirty magazine black screen starting around the middle of comment 158 and extending to the bottom of the page. I don’t get this with IE.

  189. 189.

    cleek

    I’m using ff2 and I get the dirty magazine black screen starting around the middle of comment 158 and extending to the bottom of the page. I don’t get this with IE.

    i get it with FF3, as well. i had to turn off all page styling in order to post this.

  190. 190.

    DrDave

    And Mika needs to STFU about “poor Sarah is so mistreated.”

    Mika needs to STFU period. Or just go to FoxNews where they look for stupid blondes.

    I am using FF3 for Mac and don’t get blacked out.

  191. 191.

    Comrade Scrutinizer

    I also get the adult magazine black box of death after “Balloon Juice looks like Grape Juice” in block quotes on comment 158 using FF3. I disabled all add-ins and still get the same thing. IE7 okay.

    Love the redesign, by the way.

  192. 192.

    Comrade Scrutinizer

    Mika needs to STFU period. Or just go to FoxNews where they look for stupid blondes.

    But then Joe’s Hannity wouldn’t have his Colmes.

  193. 193.

    gypsy howell

    Just wanted to add my two cents to the first redesign post. Wish I knew what the heck all those new thingiedoodles above the comment box were for. H3? DD? NOBR?? Oy, I gots some googlin to do

  194. 194.

    Comrade Peter J

    Mika needs to STFU period. Or just go to FoxNews where they look for stupid blondes.

    But Mika is a Obama supporter, McCain told us that.

  197. 197.

    Comrade Peter J

    Just wanted to add my two cents to the first redesign post. Wish I knew what the heck all those new thingiedoodles above the comment box were for. H3? DD? NOBR?? Oy, I gots some googlin to do

    H3 – that’s the most enviromental friendly Hummer.

    DD – Double Down, that’s when McCain after finding out that his VP stunt is bombing tries to fix it by the suspending campaign stunt.

    NOBR – No BordeRs, push it and an illegal immigrant successfully crosses the border. Also, Lou Dobbs and Stalkin’ Malkin both feel a chill.

  200. 200.

    Annette

    bago posts removed with the GET from the remote location: that’s not the issue, since all the references to the .png have been removed, including yours.

  203. 203.

    Original Lee

    Love the new design, John. A very pleasant surprise with which to start the day!

    Re: the current financial mess – I miss Lou Rukeyser!

  204. 204.

    Punchy

    So help me God, if this becomes the next DailyKos, I will hunt you down and…..do…..something….like a sternly worded comment.

    Please no reader diaries, no “Breaking!”, and no Chicken-Little bullshit.

  205. 205.

    Comrade Napoleon

    I like it. Good job John.

    Too bad I don’t know jack about inserting pictures or any of that code stuff. I am use to sites that its completely idiot proofed.

  207. 207.

    RoonieRoo

    Okay, that was seriously freaky. Posted my first post and the comments flip out and all refresh in bold text and backwards? Is that supposed to happen?

  209. 209.

    Dork

    why no link, bold, or italics buttons?

    also, where did the list of topics/posts that used to be on the upper left-hand side go? How will I know when Cole has posted something even stupider that I need to comment about?

  210. 210.

    Comrade Some Guy Named Mattski

    NOoooooooooooooooooooooooo! With all the big bold type and
    intablitly to shrink the browser down to just the comments, Now
    anyone walking buy my cube )ahem, my boss) will know exactly how
    much and often i’m goofing off. fuck it, who am i kidding, they
    already know.

  213. 213.

    Anderson

    WOW. Looks so much better. Commenting is a drag though b/c there is
    a few seconds’ delay b/t typing an d the letters appearing on the
    screen — okay, more like a lot of seconds.

  214. 214.

    4jkb4ia

    Well, you got the site fixed up in time for a) 5769 and b) the
    folding of the New York Sun. It is so clean, I hardly recognize it.
    John, Tim, and company should have a year of rest, harmony,
    tranquility, wealth, and exaltedness. That was my way of getting
    around the KGB from earlier.

  215. 215.

    Punchy

    Comment tages are currently disabled while the black box o’ death
    is being investigated.,/blockquote> Racist.

  218. 218.

    Not My Fault

    Is it just me, or is Page Up/ Page Down somehow broken? Also – that
    is one big-ass text cursor I see.

  219. 219.

    Comrade Bey

    Love it. Great font. Nice new motto. Fast load. I even like the
    optical illusion. Thanks for doing this for us.

  220. 220.

    Stacy

    Still working on the Firefox BSOD, enlisting some Mozilla help in
    that. Note the arrow next to the comment timestamp, that allows you
    to reply directly to that comment. More fun plugins a’comin’…

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