I’m with TBOGG– it does seem a little unfair to run “How Obama Got Elected” underneath Sarah Palin’s smug mug for this entire interview, because John McCain made enough mistakes in his own right that you can’t pin the whole thing on the Wasilla Wingnut. On the other hand, I love her assertion that she would have been treated better had she been a Democrat. Always a victim, these Republicans, what with the media out to get them and everything.
I guess it is probably pointless to dig up all the fawning media coverage she got after reading the speech someone else wrote for her at the convention (I remember the terms “electrified” and the phrase “a star is born”) and what not. I guess it is pointless to mention that it was only after she lied repeatedly about the bridge to nowhere that the media started to question her, and that it was after she refused to answer any questions for weeks on end that they started to get pissy. I guess it is pointless to note that it was Palin’s own disastrous interviews with Gibson and Couric that cemented the view of her as a dim bulb.
She’s got her facts, and she is sticking to them, and I say “You go, girl.” If I know anything, it is that America hates losers, and Sarah Palin seems intent on spending the next few years reminding everyone what a loser she is. More power to her.
comrade baron elmo
Palin/Gingrich 2112!
STARBURSTS, bitches!
robertdsc
Call me a starburst-blinded wingnut, but I think she’s beautiful.
frogspawn
We are the priests
Of the temples
Of Syrinx
Comrade Stuck
LOL, was just reading about this. And guess what I learned, Sarah Serendipity thinks Keith Olbermann is tey EVIL.
From John Zeigler, master wingnut conspiracy theorist.
Thank you Keith!
harlana pepper
She should just start her own talk show and get it over with. Brought to you by Starburst!
Josh Hueco
@frogspawn:
damn, you beat me to it
The Moar You Know
OT: Let the circular firing squad commence firing.
demkat620
I just don’t understand why she thinks more talking will help her. Can’t anybody tell her to shut up?
She is so annoying.
Zifnab
She’s got my primary vote.
Sirkowski
Don’t know if want.
christian cunningham
i love it when they blaim the media. As long as their blaiming someone else, they overlook their stupidity. you cant fix something until you realize it is broke.
frogspawn
@Josh Hueco
Yes, just like Mrs. Palin, I am older than the President of Russia.
Just Some Fuckhead
No, she complained it was a class issue, not a Democratic/Republican one.
The Moar You Know
@demkat620: If there are any sane Republicans left (a dubious proposition) I’m sure that they are praying for exactly that. Me…me, I’d like to see her keep on talking. She is the boat anchor around the necks of the GOP.
The Other Steve
I saw a quote, something about how she’d be treated differently than Caroline Kennedy.
I don’t know. Caroline Kennedy has a Law Degree. Palin’s degree is in communications or something non-serious. It’s not just that Caroline is a Kennedy, it’s that she takes the law and government seriously. Palin does not.
If it is a class thing, it’s purely meritocracy class based.
The Other Steve
It’s pretty typical. I encounter this all the time in my work. The more incompetent someone is, the less likely they are to realize that they are incompetent.
There was some professors from MIT who did a study on this and came to this conclusion. Wisdom isn’t knowing a lot, it’s the realization of what you don’t know.
comrade rawshark
@robertdsc:
I’ll call you that if you think she can lead.
demimondian
@The Moar You Know: You know, this actually seems like much more productive arguing than I’ve heard before. Maybe I’m an unreconstructed Pollyanna, but the kinds of fights I’m hearing now seem more substantive than I was hearing a couple of weeks ago.
demkat620
@The Moar You Know:
Yeah I get that but her voice is like nails on a chalk board. She makes my ears bleed.
debbie
So her complaint is that the Couric interview "didn’t go well" the first day but then she went back for more questions. Well, whose responsibility is it that it didn’t go well? Could it be Governor I Know Foreign Policy Because Alaska is Next to Two Other Countries or Governor The Bailout has Something to do with Health Care and the Economy?
Hmmm…I thought Republicans were the Party of Individual Responsibility.
Please keep giving interviews, Sarah. And I wish you the very best in the fight for the Republican nomination in 2012.
Bubblegum Tate
That Big Hollywood site in general and the comments in that Palin thread in particular are weapons-grade hilarity.
The Other Steve
Wow, I’d not read Nate Silver’s interview with Ziegler before.
Just wow.
Just Some Fuckhead
@The Other Steve: It doesn’t actually have to be any issue at all. It could just be Palin playing the resentment card.
Balconesfault
I REALLY want to see Sarah v Mittens rearing it’s head starting in 2011. You could toss Hucklbee in there too, but I think he’d settle for VP on anyone’s ticket, and will hold his fire some.
But Sarah’s Christian Soldiers versus Mitt’s big-banks push pollers could be epic. It’s always classic to watch people fight to the death over something that doesn’t exist … in this case, the "soul of the Republican Party".
mapaghimagsik
Yay! Keep talking Palin. I can’t stand to listen to her, but I just love seeing that R by her name and watching people cringe.
FourtyTwo
My favorite part is how Sarah as candidate is treated so much meanier than Kennedy the candidate…
Except for the fact that Kennedy isn’t a fucking candidate, she’s a potential APPOINTMENT.
Natch, the Pubs can’t tell the difference…
gbear
I think the term ‘electified’ was referring to the condition of the people on the streets outside of the Xcel Energy Center. I’ll never forget what a police state St. Paul became during that week.
demimondian
@gbear:
Fixt. It was just a simple misunderstanding…
sgwhiteinfla
Listen, we need to stop the Palin bashing. Its not nice to make fun of the mentally handicapped.
Seriously folks in what world does she think she is doing herself any favors by giving interviews now? Especially in this age of youtube? I can just see her statement about how easy the media was on Obama then it cuts to her quoting the NYTimes about Bill Ayers. Then it cuts to her saying Tina Fey exploited her and it cuts back to her appearance on SNL. Then she talks about class warfare and they cut to a scene with Greta "crooked mouf" Van Sustern showing her big ass house, airplane and snow mobile and the story of her tanning bed in the Guv’s mansion. She is a walking talking attack ad against herself.As for her hate of Katie Couric, she reminds me of the dumb kid in class who fails all of the tests and then blames the teacher.
And please for the love of God/Allah/Buddah/Science will somebody tell her that UsWeekly is not considered the mainstream media
Incertus
@The Other Steve: There’s also the phenomenon of people who are too dumb to realize just how dumb they are–or maybe it’s related to what you’re talking about. I fall into that category sometimes.
jibeaux
I dunno, Wurzelbacher doesn’t seem content to let his 15 minutes die a dignified death, and it’s at least possible he survives his stint as a human shield. I say if you’re gonna bring the crazy, then Bring. That. Crazy.
gbear
That sounds like a Foxx News remake of Pink Flamingos.
oh really
At the risk of pointing out the painfully obvious, McCain chose Palin and is therefore responsible for her and any damage she did to his campaign. She deserves credit, but her credit is but a subset of the credit McCain deserves.
He was a terrible candidate who floundered week in and week out. He lost. He deserved to lose. And it is overwhelmingly likely that he would have lost no matter whom he had chosen for his running mate.
kth
If John Ziegler thinks that Keith Olbermann is any more pertinent than, say, Sean Hannity, to "the media’s" treatment of McCain-Palin, then he is even dumber than the Nate Silver interview indicated. Olbermann is a proud and fierce partisan, and under no obligation whatsoever to be objective in the way that straight news reporters are expected to be.
Balconesfault
@gbear:
BTW, did you see how they had an FBI Informant tip them off to the "Texas 2", a couple guys playing with Molotov Coctails?
Except that the informant wasn’t just a mole, but apparently according to people in the activist community he was a fairly incindiary rabble rouser who was constantly exhorting others to push the envelope. This seems to be one major reason a lot in the activist community were defending Darby against charges that he was the informant over the past months.
Agents provocateur, eh? Nice.
blogenfreude
Remember when she told Gwen Ifill she was going to answer her own questions? Good times ….
gbear
@demimondian:
Maybe ‘Tasered’ was the word I was looking for…
rob
Please, please, please God- let her be he Repubs nominee in 2012.
Sad_Dem
Reid is really on a roll on The Hill, he says:
and
Garrigus Carraig
@Sad_Dem: Oh, Harry Reid. How do you manage to squeeze ten pounds of Fail into a five-pound sack?
Incertus
@Sad_Dem: Based on his recent success rate, I’d say Obama’s got everything he wants sewn up into a pretty little bag then.
gbear
@Balconesfault:
The mole must have done a great job of egging those guys on. One of them plead guilty to the charges yesterday. People usually don’t do that unless they think they’re totally fucked. St. Paul undercover cops can be real bastards too.
Rick Taylor
Ohh, that video is painful to watch. I couldn’t bear more than a minute of it. So victimized and sorry for herself. Ugh.
demimondian
@Garrigus Carraig: Spandex. It all comes down to spandex.
El Tiburon
I think TBogg was being ironic, in an Alanis Morrisette kind of way, about this interview. The website’s purpose is to point out how the librul media elected Obama and this interview with the trampy-grandmother was being used to bolster this assertion.
That the title ran under her the entire time was an unintended and laughable bonus that the idiot Ziegler didn’t realize.
But anyhoo…
John Cole
Ya think?
Dreggas
@Sad_Dem:
Harry needs to be primaried.
Original Lee
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rawshark
They just keep shooting the messenger over and over. And it works over and over.
Palin gives a bad interview.
We all see it via the media.
They blame the media that Palin didn’t come off well.
I bet these losers blame the mirror for their pimples.
Jake Nelson
Gotta love 2008’s crop of New Republican Stars (TM)- between Palin and the hilarity of that banner on the left side of this page (Joe the Plumber in Gaza)… yeah.
Mike in NC
Spotted a wingnut’s pickup truck today in a mall parking lot. Among the bumper stickers plastered all over the tailgate was one that read "Don’t Blame Me I Voted for Palin!" Those morons have no concept of irony…
TR
"Don’t Cry for Me, Anchorage."
Krista
Fixed. And for fun, picture Michael Palin as Reid and John Cleese as Obama.
edit: the word "primaried" is supposed to have a strikethrough on it. Goddamned thing didn’t work.
Duke of Earl
@Balconesfault:
A dead giveaway, or at least it was back in the day.
Why do we have to relearn this crap every time?
SGEW
win
Because it was never learned in the first place.
Church Lady
My pity for the less fortunate seems to be coming to the forefront. I almost feel sorry for her, in the same way that I sometimes almost feel sorry for Bush. I cannot imagine going through life as an example for a verbal trainwreck.
I really don’t think either of them are as stupid as they are portrayed. Rather, I think both are unable to coherently articulate their thoughts, wrong as those thoughts might be. If they were capable of coherent speech, while we might not like what they stand for, our belief in their stupidity would not be as great.
However, I wish I looked as good as she does. I agree with robertdsc, I think she is beautiful.
differnt church-lady
She attacked the media IN HER CONVENTION SPEECH. She was on the offensive from the moment she rolled out.
metricpenny
PalinGingrich – sounds like a sex act performed by a political ticket.
In which they each put their head up the other’s ass.
Comrade Stuck
@Church Lady:
hey now CL. That’s some pretty good spoofin’. Or, put another way, The stupidity in their beliefs would be less great if they were not capable of incoherent speech — and their beauty, can’t leave that out. I might be about to cry from teh compassion, it is ever where.
Ash Can
Oh yes, please let her be the Republican presidential nominee in 2012. Pleasepleaseplease. Can you imagine her going head-to-head with Barack Obama in a debate? Oh, doctor.
And if she wants to call her treatment a class issue, does she really want to go there? As far as class goes, she’s got SFA. Case closed.
As for Harry Reid, I’d say he should be on the lookout for a knock on his door by Rahm Emanuel. At home. At about 2 AM.
Tsulagi
Does the lipsticked pit bull/hockey mom from Wasilla, the new great hope to bring Republican steel back to the WH, really want to whine that she was beat up by Katie Couric? Katie Couric, and Charles Gibson? Cracks me up. But to be fair, no doubt Katie could put down the entire RedState Strike Force. Katie’s vicious like that.
Also, can’t wait to hear war dispatches from Sarah’s sidekick, JTP. I’m betting right now in preparation he’s in deep study with a top R-Iraq war correspondent buddy, Tijuana Toilet Tramps star Matty Sanchez. I’m sure the non-plumber is eager to take whatever pointers the non-gay porn star Matty can give him.
What would comedy be like without these guys?
scruncher
Somebody please make her go away.
priscianus jr
SFA? Sustainable Farming Association? Sarcoma Foundation of America?
Oh, wait a sec … I think you mean "sweet f@ck all." So she’s right, it IS a class issue! Caroline Kennedy has class and Sarah Palin has no class.
DonnaInMichigan
Palin: Perpetual Victim. Also, too.
Beej
@christian cunningham: I’m sorry. I know it’s irritating, but I can’t help it. I was an English teacher in another life. The word is "blame" and in this particular instance it’s "they’re" as in they are, not "their", a possessive. Remember this for the quiz.
blogreeder
How many times do we have to hear that Sarah Palin didn’t write her speech at the convention? If that’s the first thing that comes to your mind when you righteously "put her in her place" , I guess that shows the shallowness of all your other criticisms.
Everyone has speech writers. Even that one.
Oh, I just got sucked into your shallow zone. I can’t wait for Obama to meet with her at some point. In public. On record. Not like when he met with her at the governor’s convention. What will you say?
Fulcanelli
@metricpenny:
I’d pay good money to see that. Twisted, I know but that’s what 8 years of Cheney, W, and the Jeebus Goopers topped off with a 2 year long primary season has done to me. Now where did I put that Adrenochrome and my Absinthe spoon? The tics are starting up again when I hear her voice…
oh really
If only Palin had had the presence of mind to tell Couric the truth — that she reads "publications" — I’m sure she would have been regarded as an intellectual force to be reckoned with. And, doubtless, McCain would have won.
Oops. Gotta go. I’ve got some publications that require reading.
theturtlemoves
@Church Lady: I thought she was vaguely attractive when first on the national scene, but the more she talks, the more the evil oozes out of her pores and the uglier she gets. I can’t even look at her anymore. Damn near turned me off of Tina Fey and that takes quite a bit.
Ash Can
@priscianus jr: Precisely.
Ash Can
@blogreeder:
Now, that’s what I’m talking about. Yes. Please. Today, if possible. In prime time. On all the networks. I’ll spring for the popcorn.
Alas, however, Obama has far more important things to do these days than babysit some backwater political wannabe. This spectacle will have to wait until 2012, if in fact the Republicans are crazy and/or stupid enough to nominate her.
BruceK
All this talk about a fight for the soul of the Republican party leaves out one very important point.
Whoever wins that fight is going to have to deal with Mr. Applegate.
John Cole
The difference between having a speechwriter and the fact that I mention Sarah Palin didn’t write her own speech is simple.
Most pols have a speechwriter. In this case, however, the one thing Sarah Palin didn’t screw up was her convention speech, and that was written for WHOEVER was chosen as the VP candidate. She hadn’t even been chosen, yet the speech was already written.
Understand the distinction now?
And where have I said I “put her in her place,” you jackass?
Josh Atkins
Totally agree, and great post.
She can’t enforce Reaganist values on her only family (and they’re not moral values anyway–the complete opposite), then she ought to question herself on the (perhaps somewhat important?) issue of whether or not she could do better than Dubya in federal office a la the (vice) presidency. Matt Damon put it pretty well in September when he said “I can’t understand why more people aren’t talking about how absurd it is [Palin’s candidancy]” SNL sums up the abstinence hypocrisy pretty well.
Some stuff on the net was certainly irresponsible and wrong.
But she has no right—none at all—to attack those who were merely pointing out that she was so hypocritical, in advocating staunch socially conservative ‘values’, whilst at the same time not enacting those ‘values’ in her own family—is wrong too.
Message for you Sarah: “Walk the walk, don’t just talk the talk.”
Tim Fuller
Her talk begins with "who is trig’s mommy’ redux, but she still hasn’t produced a birth certificate as far as I know. Andrew Sullivan will not be happy.
Enjoy.
Nemoudeis
And it was a pretty journeyman presentation in my book, to boot. Her pacing was fine, but not well-tuned. She had a basic understanding of the high and low points of her presentation; but she never showed she had a feel for it. And the most sophisticated emotional projection she ever managed to make was one of those "can y’all believe what Midgie wore to church today" kaffeeklatsch smirks.
It was the audience that made her debut look like a triumph. But they would’ve jumped and hallelujah’ed for the antics of a shaved chimpanzee in a tuxedo up there on that podium, if McCain had decided that was the mavericky-est move to make.
satby
@Church Lady:
She’s a lying, power-abusing, whining grifter. What kinds of values are they teaching at your church, lady, that you could look at her and see any kind of beauty?
It’s supposed to be more than skin-deep, remember?
Church Lady
@satby-
I was only referring to the external packaging. No matter how much one dislikes her, as long as she doesn’t open her mouth, she is still a very attractive woman.
Jamey
Right there in that sentence. Burn!
binzinerator
Some never thought that, even before she opened her mouth at the gooper convention. I know I never did. Physically she just does not interest me.
And when she opened her mouth, I’d think anyone who had thought her attractive would be reminded that ‘beauty is as beauty does’, but apparently I would be wrong.
As for Palin’s other attributes, there’s something else all the starburst boys and even some women are not noticing — her eyes. And I don’t mean the shape or color either. There’s a meanness in Palin’s and a lack of what I call the glint of the lively mind.
To get a sense of this thing about the eyes, compare Palin’s eyes with, say, Tina Fey’s. There’s lots of close shots of Tina here in this interview with Letterman.
Regarding Fey’s physical resemblance to Palin, there are a lot of moments where you can freeze the frame and see that Fey looks very little like Palin, especially in the long shots.
I find Fey’s face much more attractive when she’s not aping Palin. She also looks a helluva lot more fun to be with, and IMHO intelligent articulate women with a rich and playful sense of humor are also a helluva lot more fun in bed.
Palin is a loser on so many levels.