Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

These are not very smart people, and things got out of hand.

Their boy Ron is an empty plastic cup that will never know pudding.

My years-long effort to drive family and friends away has really paid off this year.

Imperialist aggressors must be defeated, or the whole world loses.

It’s always darkest before the other shoe drops.

Narcissists are always shocked to discover other people have agency.

I like political parties that aren’t owned by foreign adversaries.

Following reporting rules is only for the little people, apparently.

Democracy cannot function without a free press.

At some point, the ability to learn is a factor of character, not IQ.

Stop using mental illness to avoid talking about armed white supremacy.

The fight for our country is always worth it. ~Kamala Harris

There are a lot more evil idiots than evil geniuses.

The arc of history bends toward the same old fuckery.

Live so that if you miss a day of work people aren’t hoping you’re dead.

If a good thing happens for a bad reason, it’s still a good thing.

Why is it so hard for them to condemn hate?

Baby steps, because the Republican Party is full of angry babies.

The next time the wall street journal editorial board speaks the truth will be the first.

This country desperately needs a functioning fourth estate.

If rights aren’t universal, they are privilege, not rights.

Trump should be leading, not lying.

When tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty. ~Thomas Jefferson

It may be funny to you motherfucker, but it’s not funny to me.

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Open Thread: The Granite Staters Have Spoken

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(Jeff “Proud Vermonter” Danziger’s website)
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According to the NH Union-Leader:

Major broadcast networks declared Romney the winner as soon as all polls closed at 8 p.m…
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As returns poured in, Romney had 39 percent of the vote with nearly 90 percent of the voting precincts reporting…
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… Paul was at 23 percent and Huntsman at 17 percent, while former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich and former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum split the hard-line conservative vote, with 9 percent each.
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Texas Gov. Rick Perry, who did not campaign in New Hampshire in recent months, was at 1 percent. Perry said the battle to become the conservative alternative to Romney was now “wide open.”
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An exultant Paul sarcastically thanked the New Hampshire Union Leader “for not endorsing me,” and said, “Freedom is popular.”….

And the clown caravan moves onward to the state once labelled “Too small for a republic, and too large for an insane asylum“…

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  1. 1.

    Villago Delenda Est

    The King of Bain did better than I thought he would, and Huntsman not as well. Paul’s finish is unsurprising…there are enough looneytarians who have migrated to New Hampshire over the last 10 years or so to make a significant dent in the overall level of sanity, and NH was a bit iffy before they got there, what with all this “Live Free or Die” crap where some guy is fined for daring to cover it up on his license plate.

  3. 3.

    Mike Goetz

    My fear from two weeks ago is coming to pass: nobody is getting the fuck out of the race! I knew they wouldn’t leave! They’re all the clueless guests at the party that ended an hour ago. I’m so sick of them and they won’t go away.

    And Romney…oh my God. His victory speech was so offensive – crabbed, mean-spirited, full of bald-faced lies and personal insult. I cannot stand the man at fucking all. Please humble him, South Carolina, and I’ll take back any mean thought I ever had about you.

  5. 5.

    handy

    Nobody has Romney’s organization nor his cash, and people keep pulling their punches until it’s too late. That’s why this is starting to feel like a coronation.

    I don’t know SC politics at all. The bobbleheads keep repeating the “It’s socially conservative” line–gee ah, thanks. So I don’t know what combination of Not-Romney it’s gonna take to siphon off enough votes to drag this thing out a little longer.

  9. 9.

    Judas Escargot

    I really did think MittR would pull in over 40%.

    Anyway, fix is in. The GOP doesn’t do upsets.

  10. 10.

    Mike Goetz

    @Calouste:

    I believe it is spelled “Michele,” which goes to show how memorable she truly is.

    But by all rights Perry, Huntsman, and Gingrich should be out of there by now.

  12. 12.

    Mike Goetz

    On the plus side, as with Iowa, we don’t have to hear about New Hampshire any more. See you in four years, you flinty fucks!

  14. 14.

    butler

    @Mike Goetz:

    My fear from two weeks ago is coming to pass: nobody is getting the fuck out of the race! I knew they wouldn’t leave! They’re all the clueless guests at the party that ended an hour ago. I’m so sick of them and they won’t go away.

    I’m just the opposite. I love having every one of these nutballs in the race for as long as possible. Its entertaining, and every day brings more and more circular firing squad action, directed mostly at Mittens.

  17. 17.

    Hill Dweller

    @handy: Apparently DeMint was on a talk radio show and said some nice things about Willard during his speech. I think Newt going nuclear scared the big money in the party, and they’ve decided to get everyone in line.

    Romney will be the nominee, lying and alienating people with his stellar personality until November.

    The Obama campaign had to be downright giddy when Romney used that ‘politics of envy’ line. They’re going to beat him over the head with that quote until election night.

    Ultimately, it will come down to the economy. If it continues to improve, Romney has nothing.

  19. 19.

    FlipYrWhig

    @Little Boots: Um, Anne Laurie had a whole front-page post ripping into ABL because she suspended Corner Stone’s commenting privileges. I’m not sure what the dynamic was before or after that, but in the heat of the moment it didn’t seem like AL would be too upset about the prospect of ABL’s departure.

  25. 25.

    MildlyAmusedRainbowPerson

    @Little Boots:

    John Cole said publicly that she was welcome to keep blogging here, and she picked up her ball and went home. I don’t see how that makes him a bad guy, but YMMV.

  27. 27.

    Splitting Image

    Here’s my prediction from earlier today:

    Romney 35%
    Huntsman 22%
    Paul 18%
    Gingrich 12%
    Santorum 8%
    Perry 2%

    Actual results with 95% reporting:

    Romney 39%
    Paul 23%
    Huntsman 17%
    Gingrich 9%
    Santorum 9%
    Perry 1%

    So it looks like I won’t be starting up 539.com anytime soon. Seems like the late deciders moved to Paul instead of Huntsman.

    Turnout appears to be down from 2008, although not as disastrously as Nate Silver was predicting it might be earlier in the evening. I think Romney did sufficiently well that he can call this a clean win. Ron Paul tripled his vote total from 2008, and the G.O.P.’s concern may be how many of those votes are crossover Democrats. Huntsman’s total too. A lot of those votes will likely go to Obama rather than Robo-Mitt.

    On to South Carolina!

  29. 29.

    Cacti

    Romney will probably squeak out another win in SC because Frothy and Gnewt will split the Talibangical vote.

    Nobody’s going to deny Bobmitt Romdole his chance to lose. It’s his turn, dammit!

  31. 31.

    Redshift

    So, has anyone heard if Mittens beat McCain’s percentage or vote count? Seems like all the punditubbies got bored and went to bed once he had a clear win, so I guess they’ve already decided the storyline is going to be Romney’s big win, even though a day ago they were opining that if he didn’t top McCain, it would be a bad sign.

  32. 32.

    gaz

    former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum split the hard-line conservative vote, with 9 percent each.

    Excuse me, they’re all hardliners now. The ones I quoted are the certifiably insane candidates. Well, the *more* crazy. Danger to themselves and others crazy.

    Now where did I put my overton window?…it’s around here somewhere…

  33. 33.

    Little Boots

    @handy:

    maybe it’s us. maybe we must become worthy.

    okay, not, he’s prolly a douche.

    but stll, his blog, his rules.

  34. 34.

    Martin

    40,000 fewer GOP votes than in 2008. That’s almost 20% lower.

    They sound thrilled with the current crop of candidates.

  36. 36.

    Judas Escargot

    Politics depresses me.

    I’m so glad that I can find solace in Jesus Christ, our one and only Savior.

  37. 37.

    KG

    Looking at the polls, Romney pretty much leads everywhere. It’s his to lose at this point, but it’s been his to lose for about a year now

  39. 39.

    handy

    So is everybody in agreement then? In two weeks the discussion moves to possible running mates? Because that’s where it feels like it’s heading now.

  42. 42.

    Cacti

    @handy:

    In two weeks the discussion moves to possible running mates? Because that’s where it feels like it’s heading now

    Last time it was a token female.

    This time it will be a token non-white. Hell, maybe even a non-white female. Romneybot’s programmers know that they have to bump up their pitiful 23% standing with Latinos to have any real shot at winning.

  48. 48.

    The prophet Nostradumbass

    On another subject, have any of you seen the Canadian series ReGenesis? It’s quite strange, from the bit of it I’ve seen so far.

  54. 54.

    handy

    @Cacti:

    I’m sure whoever it eventually turns out to be everyone will be getting their collective freakout on, because OMG KARL ROVE DID IT AGAIN AND IDIOT AMERICA IS GONNA LET US DOWN DERP DERP!!! So Cole or some other FPer will have to repost the “I Got This” photo from 4 years ago just to get people off the ledge.

    And then we get 4 more years of Obot/Firebagger wars. Yay!

  55. 55.

    handsmile

    Hey, not so fast on the Palmetto State, folks!

    According to Public Policy Polling’s tally of 1,112 likely GOP primary voters there, Stephen Colbert is polling at 5%, one point ahead of the lesser Mormon and fully four points ahead of another actual candidate, Buddy Roemer.

    Feel that Colbert Bump! I credit his own SuperPac, “Americans for a Better Tomorrow, Tomorrow.” Mittens must be trembling at the thought of Colbert going negative.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/tv-and-radio/blog/2012/jan/10/stephen-colbert-polling-south-carolina

  56. 56.

    dead existentialist

    @gaz: Live Free or die, bitches!

    (They’re prolly sneaking across the border for the good stuff.)

  58. 58.

    RadioOne

    I think New Hampshire is one of the worst states in the Union, because the state combines the worst traits of New England banality with a hefty dose of populist libertarian conservatism, that no one else in the country could possible relate to it.

  59. 59.

    Jebediah

    I’m getting more and more comfortable with the idea of Mittens being the rominee. A personally awkward, out-of-touch vulture capitalist who retells his tale of animal cruelty as if it is funny and humanizing. Even knowing that the MSM will go wicked easy on him and look for every chance to trumpet any Obama stumble, real or not… even with my low opinion of the electorate, I don’t see him beating Obama. (And if he does, I am crawling into a bong and never coming out.)

  61. 61.

    Bnut

    Have not posted here in awhile, but I thought I would share this with you guys. Forewarned, it’s a Red State link. But read some of the comments and tell me that half of them don’t sound just like shit liberals would say. It’s a strange world we live in.

    And hello to Yuts and Asngirl since I know you guys have missed me lol. Life is fine, just got tired of the comments for awhile, coupled with starting a small business. Still read em, just couldn’t keep up with the BS.

  62. 62.

    The prophet Nostradumbass

    I think it’s wonderful how MSNBC spent five hours talking about the New Hampshire GOP primary, taking up the spots of Al Sharpton, Chris Matthews, Ed Schultz, Rachel Maddow, and Lawrence O’Donnell’s regular shows, for that, and are now repeating that five-hour block.

    And, by ‘wonderful’, of course I mean ‘stupid’.

  64. 64.

    GregB

    I congratulate the New Hampshire Republicans for choosing the son of an immigrant from Mexico to be their nominee.

  66. 66.

    Bnut

    @srv: Highlights:

    The problem most average Americans see is that Wall Street talks a good game about capitalism but then attempts to use the government and other factors to manipulate the market forces to which they claim to adhere. Big Business is not for competition, or free markets, or even labor at market value. Big business is for the bottom line even if that means discarding the principles of capitalism.

    When profit takes the place of God conservatives are reluctant to trust capitalism..

    Capitalists believe everyone should pay their fair share, or so I’ve been told. “Government has no business picking winners and loser.”

    Hahhhahahahahaha

  67. 67.

    Yutsano

    @Bnut: Has Southern Beale patronized your fine establishment yet?

    PS I mentioned you in the LSU-Alabama thread yesterday. I’m fully aware you’re pleased with the results. :)

  71. 71.

    Calouste

    @srv:

    I don’t think New Hampshire would get on well with the Scots. In the last UK election, the Conservatives just managed to hold on to the single seat they have in Scotland. The Nationalists run the Scottish government, and they are actually to the left of Labour.

  72. 72.

    srv

    @Bnut:

    When profit takes the place of God conservatives are reluctant to trust capitalism..

    I just loved that one, also, too. Could we divide the 27% between faithful to scripture and faithful to Wall St. Jesus?

    Something I stumbled upon tonight:

    “One of the great evils with which our own nation is menaced at the present time is the wonderful growth of wealth in the hands of a comparatively few individuals”
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    –Proclamation on the Economy 1875 from The First Presidency of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints

    Source. This Union-Loving, OWS Warrior Mormon Worker site is pure Romney-strangling gold.

  74. 74.

    Martin

    @Cacti:

    Last time it was a token female.
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    This time it will be a token non-white.

    We’ll see. Palin was chosen for pragmatic reasons. McCain was going to get crushed, and he needed a wildcard to hopefully turn things around. There was no apparent electoral calculus to a victory, so he went all in on an unknown variable. Palin was literally a ‘we have nothing to lose’ choice.

  77. 77.

    Bnut

    @Yutsano: This would have required me to be able to operate electronic devices at 3am. I was not quite dexterous enough for all that. I had to concentrate at the task at hand(s) lol.

    @srv: Which is right in line with the Mormons I know actually. The nicest people I know and who would have been Democrats if it had ever even occurred to them.

  82. 82.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    Yes! time for the Republicans to drink the non alcoholic wine that is Mitt Romney!

  83. 83.

    Joseph Nobles

    Romney/Pawlenty 2012.

    Timmeh came out of obscurity to start opening for Mittens in New Hampshire. Some kind of deal was struck. Don’t see Pawpaw settling for anything but Veep.

  84. 84.

    cokane

    Wow nate silver is so freaking good. He called 39 percent the most likely outcome at 140pm on primary day.

  85. 85.

    kdaug

    @Bnut: Never could work the houndstooth bra. Wife said I looked stupid and was embarrassing the neighbors.

    How’d it work out for you?

  89. 89.

    Schlemizel

    It was so easy for little boot to hijack this thread & so obvious that was its goal. Even the liar that calls itself truth is a better troll but can’t get the attention little nuts does.

  91. 91.

    WereBear

    @Martin: 40,000 fewer GOP votes than in 2008. That’s almost 20% lower.

    That’s a pundit tidbit… you’ll never hear from the pundits. I love a lack of Republican enthusiasm!

  93. 93.

    harlana

    well i finally located the undfortunate parting of ways between John and ABL, and may i say

    Twitter is more evil than FB, and that’s saying a lot – Twitter sucks a big bag of dicks

    That said, I’m not going to lie and say I don’t love drama, as long as i’m not personally involved (twisted, isn’t it?), so if people want to use and abuse Twitter, have at it – this is what you get

  95. 95.

    Xenos

    @WereBear: The press is loudly touting this as a record-breaking turnout… because the NH Secretary of State predicted there would be record turn-out.

    Not that anyone is looking at actual numbers, though.

  96. 96.

    WereBear

    @Xenos: Not that anyone is looking at actual numbers, though.

    Of course not! Numbers are teh eeeevil. So uncooperative.

    I never ever thought that Romney would appeal to moderates. He’s sure not appealing to the Talibangelicals in his own party. In fact, Romney really has only one personality trait: he’s stinkin‘ rich. And that only appeals to less than 1%.

    One thing that has been bugging me lately; even one of the Koch brothers gave some money to charity; for cancer. After he got some.

    After cruising a few sites and looking at Wikipedia, I cannot find signs of Romney ever giving any money to any charity ever. Heck, a fraction of what he’s dropped on pointless ads, given to an animal charity, or to an organization for his wife’s illness, multiple sclerosis, would go miles and miles towards “humanizing” him and taking the curse off his robotic ickiness.

    But no sign of that.

  99. 99.

    JPL

    @Valdivia: Are you sure that was meant as a factual statement? According to the rules of Jon Kyl you can just make up stuff and explain later.

  100. 100.

    Hal

    Howard Fineman at Huffpo says Romney winning spells trouble for Obama. Which confuses me because I thought this was a Republican primary?

  101. 101.

    Schlemizel

    @Hal:
    Howie was big in the “this is good news for McCain” movement 4 years ago. He IS the salted bag of dicks all the other pundits should eat.

  102. 102.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @Schlemizel: Yeah, for Fineman, a Paul win also would spell trouble for Obama, as would a Huntsman, Gingrich, Cain, Bachmann, Trixie LaRue, or None of the Above win.

  104. 104.

    nancydarling

    @Little Boots: Can we let this ABL business die a dignified death. I miss her too, but she’s just a click away
    @handy: I think John loves us one and all, even eemom and cornerstone.

  105. 105.

    harlana

    so if people want to use and abuse Twitter, have at it – this is what you get

    i forgot to shake my Granny-finger after saying that.

  110. 110.

    catclub

    @WereBear: “I cannot find signs of Romney ever giving any money to any charity ever.”

    1. gives to Church of Mormon. but tithe? hmmm.

    2. another reason to not release tax forms.

  111. 111.

    catclub

    @Valdivia: Romney’s numbers are up from 2008. About 95k versus 88k in 2008. Of course, he got only 31% of the total in 2008.

    It is not clear to me if the total for 2012 in the GOP primary is slightly larger than 2008 or a hair smaller.
    But everyone is noting that all the independents who voted this year bulked up the total, so the number of ‘real’ GOP voters is definitely down. Obviously, in 2008 almost all the independents voted in the democratic primary.

  112. 112.

    dogwood

    @catclub:

    Mormons certainly aren’t forbidden from donating to charity. But they are encouraged to target their charitable donations to other Mormons. They run their own food banks to aid needy families in their wards, and are very good about taking care of members in good standing who come upon hard times. Some here have suggested that one of the reasons he doesn’t want to release his returns is that he doesn’t want the Church to see that he isn’t tithing his fair share. I’d be shocked if that were the case. Romney is a phony politician and businessman, but he isn’t a phony Mormon. His faith is the only authentic thing about him.

  113. 113.

    chopper

    @dogwood:

    yeah, i’m pretty sure romney has his tithing in line. tho i wouldn’t be surprised if that’s it, and it certainly wouldn’t look too good if every dime he gave to charity was only earmarked for his own people. makes him look like a mormon first and an american second.

  114. 114.

    binzinerator

    Jeebus. 18 comments from Little Boots, wanting to know where someone is: Doug, Annie, John, Omnes, ABL, then back to Doug, and on to Mike J.

    It’s the blog equivalent of interrogative flatulence, 1 and 2-line farts with a question mark.

    I henceforth shall refer to Little Boots, at least in my own mind, as Little Toots.

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