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Site Rebuild Update

by John Cole|  March 17, 20123:26 pm| 102 Comments

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Here’s a sneak peak at the new header:

I think you are going to like the new look.

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  1. 1.

    Nicole

    March 17, 2012 at 3:28 pm

    Pretty! Like very much.

  2. 2.

    MikeJ

    March 17, 2012 at 3:29 pm

    That looks really nice, but I feel like I should complain about it or you wouldn’t know you were reading the right site.

  3. 3.

    Irving

    March 17, 2012 at 3:32 pm

    I pefer to put my heckling in the hands of experts. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14njUwJUg1I

  4. 4.

    Zam

    March 17, 2012 at 3:34 pm

    I DON’T LIKE CHANGE!

  5. 5.

    Daaling

    March 17, 2012 at 3:36 pm

    So basically the same non functioning site with the same crappy theme…but hey we got a new logo. The balloon has stripes n shit now. Wow!

  6. 6.

    Amir Khalid

    March 17, 2012 at 3:37 pm

    You laid off the guy standing on the line? How could you!

  7. 7.

    jwb

    March 17, 2012 at 3:40 pm

    For the left it’s daylight and “green balloons,” whereas for the right, all is in shadow. Nice allegory.

  8. 8.

    Raven

    March 17, 2012 at 3:47 pm

    Rock on Dawg.

  9. 9.

    Wannabe Speechwriter

    March 17, 2012 at 3:47 pm

    It’s worse than the Holocaust, the Khmer Rogue, and Obama’s Presidency (that one being the worst, of course) combined! You need to let David Brooks design your logo!!!

  10. 10.

    Donut

    March 17, 2012 at 3:48 pm

    That is very calming. Much like the comments sections of each and every post.

  11. 11.

    lamh35

    March 17, 2012 at 3:49 pm

    your last line made me think of the Mens Warehouse commercial…”you’re gonna like the way you look” tagline.

  12. 12.

    Tonal Crow

    March 17, 2012 at 3:49 pm

    So does the new look include working multi-paragraph blockquotes and the ability to spell “soshulist” correctly without getting kicked into moderation? Or only bolder stripes? Not that bolder stripes are bad, at least if you’re a mouse and the stripes are on the tabby that’s stalking you.

  13. 13.

    Horrendo Slapp (formerly Jimperson Zibb, Duncan Dönitz, Otto Graf von Pfmidtnöchtler-Pízsmőgy, Mumphrey, et al.)

    March 17, 2012 at 3:50 pm

    I don’t know if it’s too late to bring this up, but I happened to think of it earlier today. When I’m reading the comments, and one comment is an answer to an earlier one, when I put the cursor over the link to the first comment, it’ll give me a number like 2910488 or something, and if I want to see what the first comment was, or if I’ve forgotten what it said, I have to go up through all of them, looking at the “link” thingies, before I can find it. Is there a way to have the link in the followup comment tell what number on that thread the earlier comment was? It isn’t a big deal, but it would be helpful.

    Also, Daaling is an asshole and should fuck off forthwith.

  14. 14.

    Comrade Mary

    March 17, 2012 at 3:51 pm

    Looks pretty nifty!

    (So will the balloon change colours depending on your mood, John?)

  15. 15.

    Bondo

    March 17, 2012 at 3:51 pm

    @Wannabe Speechwriter: Good point. The logo should be Tunch eating at the Applebees salad bar.

  16. 16.

    Clime Acts

    March 17, 2012 at 3:51 pm

    Purty.

  17. 17.

    Shawn in ShowMe

    March 17, 2012 at 3:52 pm

    @Amir Khalid:

    Cole likes firing pixel people.

  18. 18.

    Tonal Crow

    March 17, 2012 at 3:53 pm

    @Wannabe Speechwriter:

    You need to let David Brooks design your logo

    You need to let David Brooks guest-write here. Really. He desperately needs to experience the evisceration skills we’ve honed on E.D.K.

  19. 19.

    Daaling

    March 17, 2012 at 3:53 pm

    @Horrendo Slapp (formerly Jimperson Zibb, Duncan Dönitz, Otto Graf von Pfmidtnöchtler-Pízsmőgy, Mumphrey, et al.): Awww, thanks for the shout out bro. Always appreciate it when my groupies express their devotion.

  20. 20.

    a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)

    March 17, 2012 at 3:54 pm

    @MikeJ: That was pretty much what I was going to write.

  21. 21.

    dmsilev

    March 17, 2012 at 3:54 pm

    Those stripes make the blog look fat.

  22. 22.

    Horrendo Slapp (formerly Jimperson Zibb, Duncan Dönitz, Otto Graf von Pfmidtnöchtler-Pízsmőgy, Mumphrey, et al.)

    March 17, 2012 at 3:57 pm

    @Daaling:

    Yeah, well, I’ve often wondered why you people who clearly hate this site spend so much time here whining about how awful it is. If you think you could do it better, then have at it. Go start your own site. Now, maybe I’m not that smart–and I wouldn’t bet against it–but it’s hard for me to see what you’re getting out of this.

  23. 23.

    cathyx

    March 17, 2012 at 3:58 pm

    @MikeJ: We have Daaling to do that.

  24. 24.

    cathyx

    March 17, 2012 at 4:00 pm

    @Horrendo Slapp (formerly Jimperson Zibb, Duncan Dönitz, Otto Graf von Pfmidtnöchtler-Pízsmőgy, Mumphrey, et al.): He’s doing that to rile people like you up and to hijack the thread. Congratulations. You made him successful.

  25. 25.

    Steeplejack

    March 17, 2012 at 4:01 pm

    @Horrendo Slapp (formerly Jimperson Zibb, Duncan Dönitz, Otto Graf von Pfmidtnöchtler-Pízsmőgy, Mumphrey, et al.):

    When I’m reading the comments, and one comment is an answer to an earlier one, when I put the cursor over the link to the first comment, it’ll give me a number like 2910488 or something, and if I want to see what the first comment was, or if I’ve forgotten what it said, I have to go up through all of them, looking at the “link” thingies, before I can find it.

    Are you saying that you can’t just click the hyperlink to the previous comment and go right to it? Like clicking your (hyperlinked) name in this comment takes you to the comment to which I am replying.

    And, pro tip, if you want to come back from there to this comment, just press the backspace key.

  26. 26.

    burnspbesq

    March 17, 2012 at 4:02 pm

    @Bondo:

    “The logo should be Tunch eating at the Applebees salad bar.”

    FTFY.

  27. 27.

    Smiling Mortician

    March 17, 2012 at 4:04 pm

    @Horrendo Slapp (formerly Jimperson Zibb, Duncan Dönitz, Otto Graf von Pfmidtnöchtler-Pízsmőgy, Mumphrey, et al.):

    In Chrome, at least, you don’t have to scroll & search. Just click on the name in the reply link. This takes you to the comment that’s referenced. Then click the back button to go back to the comment you were reading before checking out the link.

  28. 28.

    Redshift

    March 17, 2012 at 4:06 pm

    @Steeplejack: Or you can Ctrl-click to open it in a new tab, if you want to easily see the referenced comment without losing your place.

  29. 29.

    TBogg

    March 17, 2012 at 4:06 pm

    John Cole’s Jiffy Pop! I like it!

    Someone explain this to the kids…

  30. 30.

    Spaghetti Lee

    March 17, 2012 at 4:06 pm

    I would have gone with an enormous, mendacious, disembodied anus myself.

  31. 31.

    Shawn in ShowMe

    March 17, 2012 at 4:09 pm

    @Spaghetti Lee:

    I would have gone with an enormous, mendacious, disembodied anus myself.

    I think you need permission from Getty Images before you post pictures of Tom Friedman.

  32. 32.

    gogol's wife

    March 17, 2012 at 4:09 pm

    @Spaghetti Lee:

    I thought this should have been mentioned on the earworm thread. Every time I see that phrase, then I have that stupid tune in my ears the rest of the day, whatever that Beach Boys song was, Kokomo or something, only with these disgusting lyrics.

    I hate change too. But as long as nothing big changes, I guess it’s okay.

  33. 33.

    Legalize

    March 17, 2012 at 4:10 pm

    The new header is worse than Bush. Your move, Cole.

  34. 34.

    Egg Berry

    March 17, 2012 at 4:11 pm

    Where will the rotating tag lines go?

  35. 35.

    RSA

    March 17, 2012 at 4:11 pm

    I must register the complaint that since up until late 2008 (sample: http://web.archive.org/web/20080814135408/https://balloon-juice.com/) we were getting a full balloon of juice, but since then the balloon has been only half-full.

  36. 36.

    cathyx

    March 17, 2012 at 4:12 pm

    @TBogg: John knew this new logo was appealing to him for some reason. Movie night with the folks.

  37. 37.

    Amir Khalid

    March 17, 2012 at 4:18 pm

    @TBogg:
    Oddly enough, I know what Jiffy Pop is, having heard Agent Mulder refer to it in the first X-Files movie.

  38. 38.

    WyldPirate

    March 17, 2012 at 4:22 pm

    @Spaghetti Lee:

    I would have gone with an enormous, mendacious, disembodied anus myself.

    Stop staring into the mirror you narcissist.

  39. 39.

    Maude

    March 17, 2012 at 4:22 pm

    I think the text should go up higher. The J breaking the line is odd.
    Then again, what do I know?

  40. 40.

    Anya

    March 17, 2012 at 4:22 pm

    I want my Balloon Juice back!

  41. 41.

    TaMara (BHF)

    March 17, 2012 at 4:22 pm

    @Steeplejack: fuckin’ A, all this time and I did not know about the damn backspace button! Thank you. (Now the rebuild will probably disable that function, but whatever).

  42. 42.

    Raven

    March 17, 2012 at 4:23 pm

    White Freightliner Blues

  43. 43.

    TaMara (BHF)

    March 17, 2012 at 4:25 pm

    @TBogg: I thought since Colorado made the Balloon Boy famous everyone knew what Jiffy Pop was, once again. (Still available at grocery store. Also. Too.)

    /ashamed for my state

    photo: http://www.notthelatimes.com/assets/photos/jiffy3.jpg

  44. 44.

    Jewish Steel

    March 17, 2012 at 4:26 pm

    No one is reminded of the hat that is worn by a character in the Mario world? I don’t know the character’s name. Not a gamer.

  45. 45.

    General Stuck (Bravo Nope Zero)

    March 17, 2012 at 4:27 pm

    I just hope it comes with a built in clown cannon. It was my one and only request, and doesn’t seem all that unreasonable .

  46. 46.

    Nix

    March 17, 2012 at 4:29 pm

    That’s great, let me file that with the other things in the world that do nothing for me.

  47. 47.

    pragmatism

    March 17, 2012 at 4:29 pm

    @dmsilev: Vertical stripes are slimming. It is tunch who makes the blog look fat.

  48. 48.

    David Koch

    March 17, 2012 at 4:32 pm

    oNLY rON pAUL cAN bRING bACK dA jIFFY pPOP

    pAUL/gLENN 2012!

  49. 49.

    JGabriel

    March 17, 2012 at 4:33 pm

    John Cole:

    Here’s a sneak peak at the new header …

    Nooo! I’ll miss the anachronistic little man with the cane, top hat, striped pants, tails, and barker’s horn.

    .

  50. 50.

    General Stuck (Bravo Nope Zero)

    March 17, 2012 at 4:34 pm

    @efgoldman:

    Is the clown the projectile, or the target?

    I see no reason why it can’t be both, depending on price, of course/

  51. 51.

    Daaling

    March 17, 2012 at 4:39 pm

    @Horrendo Slapp (formerly Jimperson Zibb, Duncan Dönitz, Otto Graf von Pfmidtnöchtler-Pízsmőgy, Mumphrey, et al.): Well lets see. It helps me cope with the fact someone like Bush could be elected TWICE by just the sorts of people like the one that runs this site. Besides, it’s cheaper than cable.

    In otherwords. I think people like Cole are the problem. Very dumb where it counts…at the polls.

  52. 52.

    JoyousMN

    March 17, 2012 at 4:40 pm

    Hey John, like the new design. But dont forget about those of us on mobile, android and tablet. The site is pretty good,but I’ve had some issues switching to desktop versionwhen on a tablet. If you designer is testing the user agent for mobile, tables gets lumped in with smaller screens. I find myself switching to desktop but it works and looks better on table. But I’m getting a site not found when I click the link at the bottom of the ballon juice page.

  53. 53.

    JoyousMN

    March 17, 2012 at 4:40 pm

    Hey John, like the new design. But dont forget about those of us on mobile, android and tablet. The site is pretty good,but I’ve had some issues switching to desktop versionwhen on a tablet. If you designer is testing the user agent for mobile, tables gets lumped in with smaller screens. I find myself switching to desktop but it works and looks better on table. But I’m getting a site not found when I click the link at the bottom of the ballon juice page.

  54. 54.

    Daaling

    March 17, 2012 at 4:41 pm

    @Horrendo Slapp (formerly Jimperson Zibb, Duncan Dönitz, Otto Graf von Pfmidtnöchtler-Pízsmőgy, Mumphrey, et al.): Well lets see. It helps me cope with the fact someone like Bush could be elected TWICE by just the sorts of people like the one that runs this site. Besides, it’s cheaper than cable.

    In case you haven’t figured it out yet people like Cole ARE the problem. Very dumb when it counts. On election day. Then spend the next 12 years pissing and moaning about it.

  55. 55.

    scav

    March 17, 2012 at 4:43 pm

    @General Stuck (Bravo Nope Zero):

    @efgoldman: Is the clown the projectile, or the target?

    I see no reason why it can’t be both, depending on price, of course/

    Both please, simultaneously, I’m looking for change under the couch.

  56. 56.

    WeeBey

    March 17, 2012 at 4:44 pm

    If the new logo doesn’t have wilifred’s dick in it, I’m not voting in November.

  57. 57.

    JoyousMN

    March 17, 2012 at 4:44 pm

    sorry for double post, was trying to correct. Meant to say “because desktop looks better on table”

  58. 58.

    Ash Can

    March 17, 2012 at 4:46 pm

    What, no free booze? Fuck this shit.

  59. 59.

    hildebrand

    March 17, 2012 at 4:51 pm

    Sure, change the logo and other things, soon enough Jane Hamsher, David Sirota, Tucker Carlson, McMegan and Glennzilla will be the frontpagers, and then where will you be. Hah!

  60. 60.

    Oz, The Great And Powerful

    March 17, 2012 at 4:51 pm

    I can’t come back … I don’t know how it works.

  61. 61.

    A Ghost To Most

    March 17, 2012 at 4:56 pm

    I for one welcome our new header overlord. I do miss the guy with the megaphone, though.

  62. 62.

    Citizen_X

    March 17, 2012 at 4:58 pm

    THIS PLACE HAS GONE TO HELL! PATHETIC, COLE, PATHETIC!

    Ok, actually, I like it.

    enormous, mendacious, disembodied anus

    Is there a better tagline anywhere? I’m half-tempted to have that put on my tombstone.

  63. 63.

    JGabriel

    March 17, 2012 at 5:00 pm

    @Daaling:

    It helps me cope with the fact someone like Bush could be elected TWICE by just the sorts of people like the one that runs this site.

    Didn’t you vote for Bush fils too?

    Not rhetorical, I’m asking in true puzzlement — I thought you were friends with wingnuts for the first 5 or 6 years of this millenium.

    .

  64. 64.

    Chyron HR

    March 17, 2012 at 5:01 pm

    @Daaling:

    No, actually, you started trolling this site when most of the people here didn’t automatically believe that Rep. Weiner wasn’t sending pictures of his penis to people.

    And you never forgave us for being right.

    Now make like a good bag lady and start incoherently screaming that I’m your “groupie”, or whatever your fillings are telling you to say today.

  65. 65.

    David Koch

    March 17, 2012 at 5:06 pm

    I can’t believe it.

    This logo is bullshit! Bullshit!

    It doesn’t contain the public option!

  66. 66.

    pseudonymous in nc

    March 17, 2012 at 5:22 pm

    @Citizen_X:

    Is there a better tagline anywhere?

    You know the backstory for that one, right?

  67. 67.

    Anne Laurie

    March 17, 2012 at 5:27 pm

    @Spaghetti Lee:

    I would have gone with an enormous, mendacious, disembodied anus myself.

    Cole’s left the Republican party, praise goddess.

  68. 68.

    Ozymandias, King of Ants

    March 17, 2012 at 5:31 pm

    Need moar Hayekian Modesty.

  69. 69.

    Kiril

    March 17, 2012 at 5:32 pm

    Bah! The new header makes me angry! A thousand poxes upon you all! Martial law is imposed! Tariffs and taxes on everything! All fruit is banned! I am angry! So, so angry!

    >ht giblets

  70. 70.

    irregardless

    March 17, 2012 at 5:47 pm

    Why do keep getting the mobile site on my laptop?

  71. 71.

    taylormattd

    March 17, 2012 at 5:59 pm

    Ooh, it’s pretty. Like.

    I’m crossing my fingers that the fucking mobile site will be wiped from the face of the earth. :)

  72. 72.

    Daaling

    March 17, 2012 at 6:02 pm

    @JGabriel: ahhhhh…that would be a no.

  73. 73.

    Daaling

    March 17, 2012 at 6:15 pm

    @Chyron HR: Okey dokey. If you say so.

    Like I said, I have a problem with this site because I basically think Cole is retarded. He voted for Bush twice and has shown he can be persuaded by libertarian ideas at times. He claims he is all better now and it was all stupid youth or whatever.

    However, less than a year ago he got all messed up on Libya and I think the record is pretty clear just how back asswards wrong he was on that.

    So say bullshit to talk he changed. You cannot fix mental retardation. People can learn to cope with it better and not partake in certain types of activities but it never goes away.

    If this were 1940’s Germany he would be a brown shirt convinced that all Jews must die.

  74. 74.

    A Humble Lurker

    March 17, 2012 at 6:16 pm

    @Daaling:
    So you don’t think Cole has voted Democratic since?

  75. 75.

    Sloegin

    March 17, 2012 at 6:17 pm

    So this fixes the 3 different site layouts that I randomly get on my desktop browser? Dat would be nice.

  76. 76.

    WaterGirl

    March 17, 2012 at 6:28 pm

    Cole, can we please have a link to reload the current thread at the bottom of the page on the mobile version? I can’t recall whether it’s on my iPhone or iPad, but you have to scroll all the way tot he top to refresh the page for new comments, and then you have to scroll down until you find the spot you were in before.

    thanks.

  77. 77.

    slag

    March 17, 2012 at 6:38 pm

    I will say, based on this tiny preview, I’m going to miss the mildly steampunkian aesthetic you currently got goin on.

  78. 78.

    WaterGirl

    March 17, 2012 at 6:40 pm

    Cole, before the last site rebuild, we could search on comment numbers. That was very useful in situations where someone doesn’t use the reply button and just refers to comment 15 (or whatever).

    Now we can’t, and I miss it.

  79. 79.

    dance around in your bones

    March 17, 2012 at 6:50 pm

    Oh rats. I always really liked the old-fashioned guy in the topcoat, swinging his cane and either smoking or shouting through some megaphone – and the balloon full of juice escaping, rope dangling.

    I guess you won’t bring back those beautiful curvy grey numbers either that made the site look so elegant. I have complained about that every chance I got, but my lone cries in the wilderness fall on deaf ears.

    Oh rats.

  80. 80.

    kansi

    March 17, 2012 at 6:59 pm

    Is it wrong that I love all the hate?

  81. 81.

    boss bitch

    March 17, 2012 at 8:03 pm

    The balloon isn’t doing anything. Its just sitting there like…a balloon. All stiff, well-behaved and generic. This blog isn’t any of those things.

  82. 82.

    SiubhanDuinne

    March 17, 2012 at 8:32 pm

    @JGabriel:

    I’ll miss the anachronistic little man with the cane, top hat, striped pants, tails, and barker’s horn.

    Every time I see that barker’s horn it looks like a big misshapen cigar to me. Smoke and everything. So I’m okay with changing things out.

  83. 83.

    SiubhanDuinne

    March 17, 2012 at 8:40 pm

    @dance around in your bones: Where have you BEEN? I’ve missed seeing you, in fact was going to ask at the next opportune moment if anyone had heard from you. How are you doing?

  84. 84.

    SmoovP

    March 17, 2012 at 8:50 pm

    Love the balloon. Wish y’all would fix the typography.

  85. 85.

    dance around in your bones

    March 17, 2012 at 9:16 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: Oh, I just broke my hip, is all.

    No, seriously! Long story, but end result is I snapped the ball right off the top of my femur and had to have surgery to get it all screwed back together (writing about this sounds vaguely dirty, no?)

    So I am recuperating. I’m always here, lurking. Just haven’t felt like commenting much. Humping around on a walker tends to make me grumpy – though I do still have my sense of humor, which tends toward the blah ….haha!

    Thanks for asking :)

  86. 86.

    Jim Pharo

    March 17, 2012 at 9:59 pm

    I HAVE A VERY STRONG OPINION ON THE LOGO!

  87. 87.

    Schlemizel

    March 17, 2012 at 10:11 pm

    Here is what I don’t get, someone invoked the name of a specific troll early in the thread for no apparent reason. Of course said troll had to respond & it semi-hijaked the thread in pointless bickering. Its like that other troll, the one that can’t let a thread go by without dredging up the name of a lemon that had fortunately moved on.

    Whats the point? Trolls gonna troll why invite them? They add nothing of value to the site & have proven unworthy of attention. They are like any 3 year old throwing a tantrum for attention, ignore them & maybe they will go away.

  88. 88.

    Schlemizel

    March 17, 2012 at 10:16 pm

    @dance around in your bones:
    About 11-12 years ago I broke my pelvis into 3 pieces (fell maybe 4 feet maybe a bit less). The recover to pretty mobile & mostly OK took a year but it was probably a good 5 years before I could actually run any amount on even soft surfaces without days of pain. I still don’t run (bike & use elliptical) but I have jogged short distances (100 yards) with no pain. Hang in there the recovery is a PItA and really takes a while but you should eventually be OK

  89. 89.

    dance around in your bones

    March 17, 2012 at 10:50 pm

    @Schlemizel: I’ve heard pelvic fractures are REALLY painful and take longer to heal.

    I’m hanging in there, I just really dislike being semi-immobile. And the pain was…..intense. It’s getting better, slowly. I’m trying not to gobble up all the Percocet too quickly, but using a walker makes OTHER parts of my body hurt. Mostly I have to try and follow the doc’s advice, which is to take it slow and not try to do too much just now. “Walk like there’s an egg on the ball of your foot, and DON’T BREAK THE EGG!” Ha!

  90. 90.

    WaterGirl

    March 17, 2012 at 11:02 pm

    @dance around in your bones: This has definitely not been your year.

  91. 91.

    Ron Beasley

    March 17, 2012 at 11:03 pm

    When companies are in trouble the first thing they change is the logo. Does the same thing apply to blogs?

  92. 92.

    dance around in your bones

    March 17, 2012 at 11:08 pm

    @WaterGirl:

    Ha! You can say THAT again! It’s been Mr. Toad’s Wild Ride.

  93. 93.

    TooManyJens

    March 17, 2012 at 11:20 pm

    @dance around in your bones:

    I guess you won’t bring back those beautiful curvy grey numbers either that made the site look so elegant.

    Oh, I miss those.

  94. 94.

    Nylund

    March 17, 2012 at 11:26 pm

    COMPLAINTS! I am making them. About something! Maybe the logo change!

    I am drunk. Also too.

  95. 95.

    WaterGirl

    March 17, 2012 at 11:30 pm

    @TooManyJens: Me, too. Beautiful. And searchable!

    I get confused with all the Jens, but you are the Jen who lives in Champaign-Urbana, right? Are you voting for David Gill? I have gotten 2 polls for the past 2 days, just on that race. I wonder if that means it’s close.

  96. 96.

    WaterGirl

    March 17, 2012 at 11:31 pm

    @dance around in your bones: It’s time for you to catch a break, I think!

  97. 97.

    dance around in your bones

    March 17, 2012 at 11:38 pm

    @WaterGirl: heh, bad phrasing there, Watergirl!

    But I understand what you mean…..I keep wondering what I did to piss off the karma machine.

  98. 98.

    joel hanes

    March 18, 2012 at 12:06 am

    @pseudonymous in nc: Boy, do I miss The Editors at The Poorman Institute.
    And Max Speak (you listen)
    And Billmon
    And Jon Swift

  99. 99.

    TooManyJens

    March 18, 2012 at 12:33 am

    @WaterGirl: That’s me. I still haven’t decided how I’m voting. Gill seems like a firebagger and Goetten seems like his heart is in the right place but he’s very unprepared. I’m not crazy about our choices.

  100. 100.

    Anne Laurie

    March 18, 2012 at 1:25 am

    @joel hanes:… and Steve Gillard…

  101. 101.

    Thor Heyerdahl

    March 18, 2012 at 4:19 am

    @Anne Laurie: RIP Steve Gilliard – and FTFY!

  102. 102.

    WaterGirl

    March 18, 2012 at 10:01 am

    @TooManyJens: I thought that was you. I would love to hear why you think Gill is a firebagger. I think he’s clearly the better choice, and I think he’s the only one of the two who can actually beat Tim Johnson (R-vile & disgusting) in the fall. Plus, I don’t think the other guy is nearly as good on women’s issues.

    I have already voted, but still, I hate firebaggers, so I would love to hear your thinking in case there’s something I’ve missed.

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