Snowball Snookie is at it again, opening up her rancid piehole:
With Hillary Clinton becoming a grandmother, Sarah Palin argued the former secretary of state will likely reconsider her position on abortion rights.
“Just knowing that her daughter Chelsea is pregnant, with a baby–It’s a real baby!–It’s not some disposable something, and I know that’s going to be controversial,” Palin said in an interview set to air Wednesday on “Extra.”
Clinton, who’s thinking about running for president again in 2016, has said she supports efforts to prevent unwanted pregnancies and abortions, but she also defends a woman’s right to choose.
I’m sure Hillary, who has walked around with a vagina her entire life and has a grown ass kid, was pretty clear on the concept of where babies come from, you nutjob.
beltane
I am reserving judgment until I hear what Andrew Sullivan has to say on the issue.
Cacti
In terms of mothering skills I’ll put how Chelsea turned out up against any of the Palin sprogs.
Mnemosyne
Wait, so Snowball Snooki thinks that Hillary considered Chelsea to be disposable? If that’s the case, why would Hills change her mind just because it’s a grandchild and not her own child?
Also, I can’t be the only one creeped out by the notion that a mother would somehow think she’s allowed to control her grown child’s actions and medical decisions. I think Palin is revealing a little too much about herself here, as usual.
Omnes Omnibus
Showing again that people on the right don’t understand the concept of voluntary choice. Hillary made an affirmative choice to have a child. So it appears has Chelsea. As long as it was their choice, good for them. It isn’t fucking complicated.
jl
But is it clear that the Sarah Palin has it worked out where and how kids come from? Maybe she got it figured out when she became a gramma.
Villago Delenda Est
This, um, woman gets her fashion tips from the working girls along 7th Avenue in New York and she has the sheer chutzpah of lecturing anyone about sexual morality of any sort? Quite apart from the fact that her first grandchild (that has been publically acknowledged) was conceived out of wedlock?
beltane
@jl: It’s part of the education she received from John McCain’s campaign staff.
Morzer
That is an objectively despicable thing to say – and I am so proud of John Cole for saying it. We won’t even have to waterboard him into the true liberal faith!
Ooops, did I say waterboard? I meant baptize!
Villago Delenda Est
@Morzer: WIN! You really are on fire today!
balconesfault
Is it possible that she even things before the toxic word salad starts flowing from her lips? Or does crap just fly into her mind the moment someone puts a mic in front of her?
MattR
@Mnemosyne: You beat me to the punch. That is pretty much exactly what went through my head as I read John’s post.
Omnes Omnibus
@balconesfault: Oh, she things alright. ;-)
Hal
Um, what else would she be pregnant with? The way Palin talks drives me insane. It’s all word salad and jumbles and she just pulls some thoughts together and spews forth.
Also, reminds me of the image I see all the time of a woman holding up a sign that says “If Lilly Potter had an abortion, then who would stop Voldemort?” Reply: Neville Longbottom, jesus christ, read the books.”
http://cheezburger.com/7589582336
shelley
So…what is she saying? That Hillary found Chelsea in the cabbage patch? Oh, wait, maybe that’s the extent of ‘the sex talk’ she gave her kids; with predictable results.
dmsilev
If we’re speaking of so-called traditional family values, remind me again about whether Sarah Palin’s daughter was married before she got pregnant?
Villago Delenda Est
@balconesfault:
Honestly, I don’t see how it is possible. No thinking involved, the Salad Shooter Babbage Engine just starts babbaging in the general direction as soon as the sensors indicate a mic or camera is within effective range.
2liberal
she just wanted to get her name in the news, to get someone to pay attention to her. trolling – and it worked.
Violet
@Villago Delenda Est:
Lest we forget. Snakeskin heels and enhanced chesticles.
SiubhanDuinne
Now why in the everloving blue-eyed fuck would that be controfuckingversial?
Really, to call this woman a menace is to insult all menaces since time immemorial.
Jesus Murphy.
Calouste
@Villago Delenda Est:
Not just her first grandchild possibly. I count a whole 7 months and about 2 weeks between Palin’s wedding and the birth of her first child.
Citizen_X
Shut the fuck up, stupid lady. No one cares.
Frankensteinbeck
@Villago Delenda Est:
This is a major part of why her followers love her. They hear their own incoherent resentment, their snide self-righteousness, their prejudices, with none of the logic they resent because it so often proves them wrong.
gratuitous
File under It’s Always Projection: “It’s not some disposable something.” For a partial list of Republicans “disposable somethings,” see Joe the Plumber, Cliven Bundy, and Princess Dumbass of the Northwoods herself.
mai naem
When I heard the whole crazy story Snowbilly travelling to Texas for that speech during her ninth month of her high risk pregnancy and then travelling back to Alaska without even going to a doc in Texas or Seattle(where I assume they have better facilities than Alaska), I figured she was trying to intentionally lose the baby. I’ve known several pregnant women in my time and have yet to find somebody who traveled during her ninth month and we are not even talking about high risk pregnancies. Just go away, Sarah, you methhead. Nobody wants to listen to you anymore. Go away before you embarrass yourself to the point that you’ll have to built a cabin way far in the woods so that nobody can find you.
Violet
Let’s be fair…maybe Snowbilly Snookie only just learned that when women get pregnant it’s with a real baby and she is so excited about the news she wants to share it with everyone.
Iowa Old Lady
It’s a great comfort to me that most people snicker when Sarah Palin is mentioned.
Villago Delenda Est
@Calouste: You know, I really don’t mind that so much…that people have pre-marital sex. It’s not that big a deal. Sex is natural, sex is fun. Just be prepared for consequences and use contraceptives.
The problem is when you very obviously did it yourself and then scold others for having done it. The beneath contempt cowardly shitstain that is Pat Robertson has this particular problem as well.
Yes, these upright “Christians” setting the sexual morality example for everyone. Jesus did not obsess over human sexuality like these twits do.
Calouste
And btw:
The Republican Party launches effort to beat Democrats with data
How long before the stories come out about people leaving the team because the RNC doesn’t want to accept the data as it is generated?
And one of the commenters on the Verge has already pointed out that the project is called “Victory 365”, but presidential election years, being leap years, have apparently one day on which the GOP won’t have victory…
The Ancient Randonneur
Oh my, you notoriously nasty, awful, no good commenters have wounded that poor dear Freddie and his delicate feelings. Shame on you. I haz a sad.
danielx
Our Sarah, once again making an ass of herself.
Good to know you can count on some things.
SatanicPanic
I can’t believe the misogyny on display here and the blatant disregard for this woman’s right to free speech. I say this as a man who is a real feminist.
Punchy
You calling Chelsea an “ass kid”, eh?
Hyphens are yer friends
Patrick
As Keith Olbermann used to say about Palin, “that woman is an idiot”.
Frankensteinbeck
Sarah Palin talks like an angry drunk. She is the voice of conservatism. This is not a coincidence.
Villago Delenda Est
@Calouste: This will go over every bit as successfully as their last attempt at harnessing the power of computing to unskew the polls come election day.
Omnes Omnibus
@SatanicPanic: BONERS!
Villago Delenda Est
@SatanicPanic: BONER!
Villago Delenda Est
@Omnes Omnibus: Great minds, etc.
Anne Laurie
Beat you to it, John:
You should try reading your own blog sometime, they have some good writers there, I hear.
Violet
@mai naem: It’s worse than that. According to Sarah Palin, in her ninth month of pregnancy she flew to Texas from Alaska for a Governor’s conference. She claims that her water broke while she was in Texas. Keep in mind she’s 42 and pregnant with a Down’s Syndrome child (she and Todd and her doctor knew about the DS). She claims she phoned her doctor, who told her to get on a plane and come home to Alaska. No doctor would do this, but this is what Palin says happened.
Instead of going to a hospital in Dallas she flies from Dallas to Seattle with a layover then Seattle to Anchorage. Instead of going to a hospital in either Dallas, Seattle or Anchorage, this 42 year old woman whose water has broken lands in Anchorage and drives an hour to Wasilla to deliver the baby.
It’s malpractice if her doctor told her to do anything but go to the hospital in Dallas. It’s child endangerment or worse if she did anything but go to a hospital in Dallas. Or she lied about what happened. There is no other option.
Trollhattan
@SatanicPanic:
Well played.
Citizen Alan
@Villago Delenda Est:
Hell, her first CHILD was conceived out of wedlock. The eldest boy, IIRC, was born late in the seventh month of her marriage to the Toddster. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: I will hate John McCain until the day I die for making that vile creature into a national figure.
SiubhanDuinne
@SatanicPanic:
Criticizing an AA or other minority for saying or doing something imbecilic is not being racist, and criticizing a woman for saying or doing something idiotic is not being misogynistic. If any of the comments here had been along the lines of “Sarah Palin, typical woman, they always say these things,” then yeah, you’d have a point. But as it is, nope, no misogyny here.
Howard Beale IV
Sarah Palin is like herpes-we didn’t want her, we got screwed when we got her, and if we could get rid of her, we would-but we can’t.
dmsilev
@Calouste:
Now be fair. They know their Gregorian calendar and they’re shooting for victory in the 2100 electoral cycle.
Comrade Jake
Reminds me of the idiots who argued that “Knocked Up” was a pro-life movie, because she decided to keep the baby.
MomSense
Sarah Palin made a point of saying that when she found out she was pregnant with Trig (her youngest) she didn’t tell anyone at first, even her husband. She thought about it, albeit briefly, and decided to parent. It was an empowering decision she made to enter into parenting knowing the challenges she and her family would face. This is pro-choice in action.
What makes me crazy is that she is not asked why she would deny women the opportunity to make the same choice she made for herself.
Ash Can
So it was CNN that ran this gem? That place really has turned into a complete trash dump, hasn’t it?
Citizen Alan
@mai naem:
Yes! Thank you! I always thought that Andrew Sullivan was an absolute moron for concocting elaborate conspiracy theories about how Trig wasn’t really Palin’s child when the truth was both obvious and pitiful: she knew she was having a Downs Syndrome child but, due to some combination of religious fervor and political calculation, couldn’t have the abortion she secretly wanted, so she actively tried to force a miscarriage, even at the risk of her own life.
Trollhattan
@SiubhanDuinne:
That there was snark aimed at the infamous deBoner rant-whine, I do believe.
Villago Delenda Est
@mai naem: I know that some don’t like to dwell on this, since Sully latched on to this crazy story to display his gay male disdain for those vile females, but the story of Palin’s last pregnancy always bothered me as being just so illogical. I think you’re on to something with the desire to have a “politically correct” and sympathy educing miscarriage to solve her baby problem without the stigma of an abortion, which is what she really wanted, as actually going through with it would make her political life much more complicated on a personal level. Let’s face it…a special needs baby, especially when you don’t have truckloads of money for nannies and such, is pretty inconvenient. Sarah is all about convenience, and actually quit the governorship when it became inconvenient to her.
scav
@SiubhanDuinne: Gotta admit, I read that in a different font. Might be my meter being desensitized after most of today.
Villago Delenda Est
@Ash Can: Leslie Blitzer’s crowning achievement…transforming Ted Turner’s crown jewel into a garbage pit.
SatanicPanic
@Trollhattan: I just didn’t get enough jokes on the last 4 threads but I promise that was the last
Violet
@Citizen Alan: If you’re going to have an abortion it’s a lot easier to do it earlier in the pregnancy. She could have done that without anyone knowing. Going to the conference in Texas in the ninth month of her pregnancy to force a miscarriage is kind of stupid. At that point the baby is viable and if she went into labor a hospital probably could have saved it.
The airline she flew claims they didn’t know she was pregnant. They would not have allowed a woman in her ninth month of pregnancy to fly. It’s a major liability for them. No doctor would approve of that flight either.
Amir Khalid
@SatanicPanic:
Sarah Palin is reliably stupid, disingenuous and/or hypocritical; I reckon that’s always fair game. She’s being all three of these when she speculates that Chelsea’s pregnancy, that of a happily married woman who very much wants the child, might compel Hillary to rethink her position on abortions for women in other circumstances.
But has the Juicitariat crossed the line this time, into attacking her right to speak? I don’t think it crosses the line to call her ill-qualified to speak, and certainly wrong this time around. I like to think that this crowd is not too partisan to acknowledge Sarah Palin being right about something, should that ever happen.
MomSense
@Villago Delenda Est:
Yeah, I don’t believe the story. I think she made up a story thinking it would make her look tough and didn’t realize that people would be horrified by the irresponsibility that story demonstrated. She could have been having Braxton Hicks but I don’t think the rest is true. In my opinion, it was an embellishment gone wrong. I will say that it was irresponsible just to travel that late in her pregnancy and I’m surprised she was cleared to travel–if she was.
SiubhanDuinne
@Trollhattan:
@scav:
Ah, thanks. Totally missed the snark. My apologies to SatanicPanic.
Villago Delenda Est
@Amir Khalid: Forget it, Amir. It’s Snarkville.
burnspbesq
@mai naem:
Pat Summitt’s water broke in a recruit’s living room during an in-home recruiting visit. Don’t recall whether that young woman ended up playing at Tennessee.
Violet
@Villago Delenda Est: This doesn’t make sense though. If she wanted to have a “convenient miscarriage” then choosing to fly in her ninth month of pregnancy as a ploy to bring on the miscarriage wouldn’t work. She’d be excoriated for a putting her child at risk by flying at that time and her doctor would risk being investigated for malpractice for allowing her to fly.
Her story makes no sense when you look at what she’s said. It simply doesn’t add up.
SiubhanDuinne
@SatanicPanic:
Sorry, SP!
SatanicPanic
@SiubhanDuinne: @Amir Khalid: I have no problem with Palin jokes, but sadly, I think I’ve exhausted all mine, so I went with snarking on FdB, who is still producing snark-worthy commentary.
Amir Khalid
@Villago Delenda Est:
I, um, knew that.
Villago Delenda Est
@Violet: Well, that’s true. The story itself is just a pastiche of canards, untruths, fibs, and outright fabrication. So much of it makes absolutely no sense at all, and the morans of the MSM never bothered to investigate it because, well, it would be inconvenient to do so. It would conflict with the narrative.
And we can’t disrupt the narrative.
Roger Moore
@balconesfault:
That’s not word salad; it’s wingnut glossolalia.
Higgs Boson's Mate
@Omnes Omnibus:
Voluntary choice is the devil’s Makita cordless.
Villago Delenda Est
@Amir Khalid: I’m reading that as your very best attempt to imitate Pee Wee Herman’s reaction to the bicycle trick.
elm
I hope dear feminist Freddie weighs in on this. Presumably the one-true-leftist position is that we should listen carefully to Mrs. Palin and that a McCarthyite tone such as John Cole’s will alienate True Feminists who should back a Paul/Nader (or Paul/Paul) ticket in 2016.
SatanicPanic
@SiubhanDuinne: All in good fun!
SiubhanDuinne
@SatanicPanic:
I must admit, I’ve only barely skimmed the FdeB threads. Maybe if I had read them more carefully, I would have picked up on your snark.
scav
@Amir Khalid: seems all our meter batteries need a good liedown and nap with cookies. golly what a day. Ventra in Chicago apparently had fun too.
SiubhanDuinne
@SatanicPanic:
Oh good!
Violet
@burnspbesq: According to this her water broke on the charter flight to see the recruit. It’s still ridiculous she flew, but it was only a two hour flight, not two four hour plus flights between Dallas and Anchorage. Charter flights are not the same as commercial due to their flexibility. Sarah Palin flew commercial.
SatanicPanic
@Violet: The simple explanation that she was just doing something stupid and irresponsible seemed likely enough to me
ranchandsyrup
Trolling is all that Sarah has left.
Villago Delenda Est
One of Sarah’s perpetual problems is her first instinct when reacting to something adverse is to concoct a lie to explain it away.
She did this when she was confronted by Todd’s membership in an Alaskan separatist party, and the McCain people told her they would not fabricate a story to explain it away, because the membership was real and not some “dirty trick” djinned up by Sarah’s political enemies. They were not going to allow her to commit an unforced error that was so easy to detect that even the lazy bastards of the MSM couldn’t overlook it.
Violet
@SatanicPanic: The stupid and irresponsible thing she did is something she was praised for endlessly when McCain chose her. She was praised for her “pro life” stance yet according to her own words she knowingly put her baby at risk. She should be slammed for it.
Calouste
@mai naem:
Seattle doesn’t just have better facilities than Alaska, it explicitly covers Alaska (and Idaho, Montana, and the rest of Washington) for more specialized care.
kindness
John…Are you getting news by courier pigeon now? This one has been out there for a while. Maybe GOT ravens. I prefer ravens to pigeons any day except the Baltimore variety. Go Niners.
Violet
@Calouste: Even after her plane landed in Anchorage she drove for an hour to Wasilla. After her water broke. At 42 years old. Pregnant with her fifth child. A Downs Syndrome baby.
Completely responsible. Totally pro life.
Schlemizel
Sister Sarah changes my position from pro-choice to pro-abortion. If only her mom had had an abortion what a better world this would be.
h/t freddy DB
Citizen_X
@Violet:
Allow? Even if her doctor did the responsible thing and told her, “Hell, no,” no one on Earth could stop Sarah Palin from doing something really stupid.
SiubhanDuinne
@Violet:
I don’t remember where I first saw this, probably Sully, but apparently Miz Sarah wanted her child to be a “native-born Alaskan.” Just as if Alaska were a separate, seceded, sovereign country with its own passports or something.
Second and co-sign Olbermann.
Villago Delenda Est
@SiubhanDuinne: Yeah, I remember something about that…there’s some disparaging term for a “non-native” Alaskan, one not born there, and she didn’t want her child to be called that. Also, too, as I mentioned, Todd was a member of some separatist party.
Reminds me of the episode of King of the Hill in which Hank discovers not only was he actually born in New York City, not Texas, but he was born in Yankee Stadium!
Violet
@Citizen_X: By “allow” I meant that Sarah Palin claims her doctor said it was okay for her to fly. So she “allowed” her to fly. Yes, ultimately no one can keep her from doing what she wants. But airlines can refuse to allow a pregnant woman to board if they deem it to be risky. Some airlines require a note from a doctor for a woman in the last month of her pregnancy to fly.
@SiubhanDuinne: There was speculation about this issue. Todd’s involvement in the Alaskan separatist movement may have played some role in that too. If that’s what she wanted, that’s fine. Then don’t get on the damn plane. That woman is reckless, stupid and a danger to others.
Lurking Canadian
@shelley: clearly, Chelsea was carried and birthed by Vince Foster, and that’s why they had to kill him.
Citizen_X
@Violet: I know, but I wouldn’t bet a nickel on this
being actually true.
Howard Beale IV
Cam we please stop taking about Caribou Barbie? There isn’t enough Chartreuse to go around.
Violet
@Citizen_X: I wouldn’t either. Yet another lie from Mooselini. She lies, lies, lies and lies again and no one calls her on them.
danielx
@SatanicPanic:
Hey, I totally believe in her right to free speech, and wish her to speak even more. Just as I believe in my right to chortle and make mockery of her….speeches? Gibberish? Word salad?
Whatever, it’s all good…
Edit: and yes, I did catch it the first time.
Chris
@Villago Delenda Est:
She really is… a profoundly, breathtakingly stupid woman. More than is ordinary even on her side of the aisle. Not even a shred of sense, even the “from their point of view” kind, behind it.
Howard Beale IV
@Chris: Sad to say, she makes Michelle Bachmann look sane.
Olivia
@MomSense: Many people insist she wasn’t pregnant at all. Among those were the woman from the car pool to school who said they all had to cover for Sarah after she had her tubes tied when Piper was little and the woman who gave her a massage when Sarah was supposedly 7 months pregnant. Sarah signed a release before the massage saying she wasn’t pregnant.
Pseudonym
@Calouste: They’re looking ahead to 2100.
LanceThruster
Proceed, Mrs. Dumas.
bmoak
@Citizen_X:
And the doctor cannot confirm or deny the story because of HIPAA regs and patient confidentiality. Convenient, that.
Origuy
@Villago Delenda Est:
Cheechako
Jack the Second
@Calouste: Hey, the 11-pound preemie is a long and respected tradition.
HRA
Anyone who has ever had multiple pregnancies will tell you Sarah’s story is very difficult to believe. None of it can be true.
Also, yes some people do have children out of wedlock. It does not mean the mother is a tramp. I know a few of those mothers who have done an excellent job as a single parent.
Mike in NC
What an asshole. Thanks again, McCain!
mai naem
@Violet: I forgot about the final ride from Anchorage. I’ve talked to several women who’ve had kids about my theory and before I explain my theory I always ask them “Would you have traveled during your ninth month and would you have traveled if you were having problems during the pregnancy?” and every single one of them are essentially “hell,no.”
BTW, I thought that Snowbilly being preggers during her first wedding was common knowledge. I didn’t think there was any big controversy about that.
Violet
@mai naem: Sarah won’t admit she was pregnant during her first wedding. She also won’t discuss the fact that her first child looks like the spitting image of Sarah’s previous boyfriend. The one who conveniently died in an airplane accident a short time later. He doesn’t look much like Todd.
Shana
@Villago Delenda Est: in their morality it’s less of a sin to “get carried away by the moment” than it is to deliberately plan to have premarital sex. And the rest of us all pay the price for that twisted logic.
Bill Arnold
@Violet:
Evidence-less speculation (“It would be irresponsible not to speculate”) suggests another possibility, that she may have promised Todd that the kid would be a native-born Alaskan, to maintain his (conditional) forgiveness for some transgression on her part. None of these scenarios make much sense though.
chopper
@Violet:
I don’t know how it’s possible that the airline didn’t notice she was pregnant. When you’re on your fifth pregnancy, when you’re 3 months along you look like you’re six months along, and when you’re nine months along you look like you’re 3 months overdue. Plus, being in labor is kinda attention-grabbing, no?
satby
@mai naem:
And you aren’t the only one.
I and several of my friends all thought the same thing (they all were nurses). They don’t believe in abortion, but if a baby tragically doesn’t survive birth, a baby they already knew had Downs, well… god’s will and all that.
Violet
@chopper: And now you’re down the rabbit hole of “was she really pregnant”? Her stories and timelines simply don’t add up. Plenty of craziness in that story.
Thlayli
@burnspbesq:
It was Michelle Marciniak, and she did.
Jay in Oregon
@Amir Khalid:
I’m waiting for confirmation, but I would be willing to admit that Sarah Palin is right about Chelsea Clinton being pregnant.