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You are here: Home / Open Threads / Open Thread: Getting A Little Too Overt, Dude…

Open Thread: Getting A Little Too Overt, Dude…

by Anne Laurie|  September 12, 20145:34 pm| 174 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, War on Terror aka GSAVE®, Assholes

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Then, slowly, he unDresden'd her with his eyes. pic.twitter.com/PrCzH47JfM

— Cuffé (@CuffyMeh) September 12, 2014

No, that’s not him on the screen, but The Hill says it was Edward Snowden’s would-be nemesis:

… Hayden was director of the CIA and the NSA under President George W. Bush…

The general cautioned that air power alone might not be enough to defeat the al Qaeda offshoot.

“We need to be wary of a strategy that puts emphasis on air power and air power alone,” he said.

“The sooner we take the fight into Syria against [ISIS], the better off we’ll be,” he added.

Asked about the remarks on Friday, State Department deputy spokesman Marie Harf said Hayden is “well aware” of the tools that the U.S. has to take down terrorists.

“General Hayden, all joking aside, knows very well the counterterrorism tools that we have at our disposal from when he was CIA director — some of which we obviously don’t utilize any more, as we’ve been clear, but some of which are tools we still have at our disposal, including, of course, direct action. So he is well aware of how you take the fight directly to terrorists.”

Harf reiterated that the the United States won’t be using American ground troops to fight ISIS…

My emphasis, because I have a sharp ear for the unspoken. Also bleakly entertaining, from a commentor at NYMag: “And like casual sex, someone probably overpaid for it.”
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Apart from waiting for the end of the world (just like every night!), what’s on the agenda for the start of the weekend?

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  1. 1.

    kc

    September 12, 2014 at 5:38 pm

    Ladies and gentlemen, Mark Sanford.

  2. 2.

    burnspbesq

    September 12, 2014 at 5:40 pm

    @kc:

    No way you’re getting me to click on that link. I still have work to do this afternoon, and it will be much harder if my keyboard is covered with vomit.

  3. 3.

    kc

    September 12, 2014 at 5:44 pm

    @burnspbesq:

    It really is barf-inducing.

  4. 4.

    hildebrand

    September 12, 2014 at 5:44 pm

    Same agenda as usual this time of year – grinding out application materials for positions in either history or religious studies, and then hoping like heck that I can at least get some interviews.

  5. 5.

    Dog On Porch

    September 12, 2014 at 5:50 pm

    Not only are corporate Doctor Strangeloves in control of the United States government, such is their arrogance that they openly mock us all.

  6. 6.

    srv

    September 12, 2014 at 5:51 pm

    So when we get drone pics, it’ll be Obama’s fappening?

  7. 7.

    Amir Khalid

    September 12, 2014 at 5:52 pm

    I seem to recall that only a few days ago President Obama was explaining why America cannot take ownership of the fight on the ground. Hasn’t General Hayden been paying attention?

  8. 8.

    Villago Delenda Est

    September 12, 2014 at 5:54 pm

    @kc: Sanford is a vile creature. He dares, dares to invoke the name of Jesus in his defense.

    Fuck him. I hope his ex takes him for every last farthing.

  9. 9.

    Villago Delenda Est

    September 12, 2014 at 5:55 pm

    @Amir Khalid:

    Hasn’t General Hayden been paying attention?

    I believe that the SATSQ on that is “negatory”

  10. 10.

    Corner Stone

    September 12, 2014 at 5:55 pm

    If allegations are true, and the indictment holds up, Adrian Peterson is a much bigger scumbag than Ray Rice ever thought about being.

  11. 11.

    Suffern ACE

    September 12, 2014 at 5:56 pm

    Yeah. The entire Iraq war has been like one long night of passion spent with a semi-drunk salesman you met at the regional office products distributers convention and trade show in 1997 when your marriage was starting to unravel. I see his point.

  12. 12.

    sparrow

    September 12, 2014 at 5:58 pm

    Open thread, huh.

    Well, I have a fun topic to bring up. I moved to Baltimore 2 years ago and have basically no friends. It sucks. I have my darling, lovely boyfriend (or partner, whatever, we’re committed), who is the reason I’m in this city in the first place. And we have a decent number of friends in DC from his previous life there, but that’s an hour away.

    I’m just over 30, and I really do not know how to make friends. It doesn’t help that I don’t really like most people. That is to say, I don’t dislike them either, but they usually kind of bore me. I don’t want to talk about what someone said to her cousin and oh my god for real did he really say that??! I don’t want to talk about what car you’re going to buy or how much you want the new iphone or whatever TV show kids are watching these days. If you want to talk politics, science, history, sociology… in short, if you’re an ideas person, great! We can be friends. But I never seem to figure out who those people are. Or they already have tons of friends and don’t really need new ones. I should probably try to make friends with whoever I can that isn’t a jerk at this point, but I just don’t know how to feign interest in the kinds of things the average person cares about.

    Bleh. I’m depressed today. Carry on!

  13. 13.

    scav

    September 12, 2014 at 5:59 pm

    On the more obvious news front, not all forms of religiously based objections are apparently to be deferred to: Illinois affiliate of NRA brands Catholic clergyman an Isis-style ‘terrorist’ following protest calling for tighter gun restrictions.

    Also getting a bit of a goggle remembering those innocent days when a brief-nipple-fash were the un-family-friendly images the NFL was worried about. What sort of child-switching is bad enough to get TX cops’ attention?

  14. 14.

    SatanicPanic

    September 12, 2014 at 6:00 pm

    @Corner Stone: OK, I’m going to ask a stupid question, but I don’t understand what he’s being indicted for.

  15. 15.

    Suffern ACE

    September 12, 2014 at 6:00 pm

    @Corner Stone: It would help if the article wouldn’t run the incidents together. Why is Texas indicting him for a crime another man committed in Sioux Falls? Is this the same incident? The article doesn’t mention what happened.

  16. 16.

    Bobby B.

    September 12, 2014 at 6:02 pm

    And so it goes (someone had to say it).

  17. 17.

    Suffern ACE

    September 12, 2014 at 6:04 pm

    Teen opens donut shop in Virginia, townfolks think she’s going to show her muffin.

  18. 18.

    Villago Delenda Est

    September 12, 2014 at 6:06 pm

    @Corner Stone: What the hell are the allegations? That Petersen failed to stop someone in Sioux Falls from killing his child?

    I’m having problems, from that article, understanding what is going on here. Whoever wrote it is an idiot, and whoever allowed it to be published so void of information is an idiot. It makes no damn sense at all.

  19. 19.

    Mnemosyne

    September 12, 2014 at 6:06 pm

    @sparrow:

    It’s the classic advice, but it’s a classic for a reason: go volunteer with an organization you find interesting. You’ll meet other people with similar interests by default because you all decided to volunteer there.

  20. 20.

    SatanicPanic

    September 12, 2014 at 6:07 pm

    @Suffern ACE: @Villago Delenda Est: Glad I wasn’t the only person who didn’t get that

  21. 21.

    Villago Delenda Est

    September 12, 2014 at 6:07 pm

    @Suffern ACE: “Christian” vermin in action, it seems.

  22. 22.

    Dog On Porch

    September 12, 2014 at 6:08 pm

    @srv: I’m inclined to credit Obama for the fact that we have thus far avoided war with Iran, and/or Syria, and/or Russia. If literally any republican had been president for the past 6 years, this country would be up to its eyeballs in blood.

    Or had Hillary Clinton been president.

  23. 23.

    Corner Stone

    September 12, 2014 at 6:08 pm

    @Suffern ACE: Sorry, multiple tabs open. He’s been indicted for physically injuring a child. A doctor reported injuries to the police.
    “Minnesota Vikings superstar Adrian Peterson has been indicted for child abuse in North Montgomery County, TX … TMZ Sports has learned”
    Not the incident with the other individual. Wrong link by me.

  24. 24.

    srv

    September 12, 2014 at 6:09 pm

    @scav: What does it take for someone to take Fantasy Football Assaults League seriously?

    Think of all the constructive debate people could have. Kids could know every players crime stats.

  25. 25.

    scav

    September 12, 2014 at 6:09 pm

    @SatanicPanic: Deadspin seems to updating with details now. Different kid and certainly case.

  26. 26.

    Villago Delenda Est

    September 12, 2014 at 6:10 pm

    @Corner Stone: Well, ESPN needs to get its act together, because mud is clearer than that link you gave us. They’re probably too busy fapping over Tebow or Manziel.

  27. 27.

    Corner Stone

    September 12, 2014 at 6:10 pm

    Yes, bad link by me. He’s not indicted for someone else hurting/killing a child. He’s been indicted after a doctor reported to LEO signs of physical abuse he sustained (allegedly) while in AP’s custody/care.

  28. 28.

    srv

    September 12, 2014 at 6:11 pm

    @Dog On Porch: He seems committed to something else.

  29. 29.

    JPL

    September 12, 2014 at 6:11 pm

    @burnspbesq: It’s worth reading the comments. They are about fifty/fifty so far. There’s a lot of keep the faith and Jesus will be with you crap, but there is also, Mark you are a drunk who has problems with anger. Oh, He and his love broke their engagement because of the ex-wife.

    I haven’t linked to the Peterson stories, so this might be redundant, but a doctor called the state authorities.

  30. 30.

    SatanicPanic

    September 12, 2014 at 6:12 pm

    @scav: Yikes, that’s awful. Sounds like something James Dobson would advocate.

  31. 31.

    JPL

    September 12, 2014 at 6:14 pm

    @Corner Stone: Yup, even TX authorities will follow up if a doctor calls.

  32. 32.

    Elizabelle

    September 12, 2014 at 6:15 pm

    @Suffern ACE:

    What a cool teenaged girl! 17 years old, and she’s started a great business. Has a great mother too. Glad to hear this story, and I think she’ll do great against those cowardly bullies.

    Shall make a pilgrimage to Front Royal to buy some donuts in October, once the leaves are turning.

  33. 33.

    Patrick

    September 12, 2014 at 6:15 pm

    @Corner Stone:

    If allegations are true, and the indictment holds up, Adrian Peterson is a much bigger scumbag than Ray Rice ever thought about being.

    Let’s be careful before we start piling on. Here’s from a different source:

    The charges stem from allegations Peterson beat a young son, according to the Isiah Carey of Fox26 in Houston. The station also reported Peterson was first ‘no billed’ by the grand jury when the prosecutor first presented this case but the District Attorney’s office took it a second time and this time the panel in Montgomery County accepted the criminal charge.
    http://www.startribune.com/sports/vikings/274946031.html

    The first Grand July no billed. Does this in essence mean that the DA in Missouri can take as many Grand Juries as needed until he gets an indictment against Wilson? I realize state laws are different etc etc, but can he in principle?

    By the way, a DA could get a ham sandwich indicted if he wanted to. So it is rather interesting here that the first GJ no billed it.

  34. 34.

    Villago Delenda Est

    September 12, 2014 at 6:17 pm

    @Patrick:

    Let’s be careful before we start piling on

    No, one should always proceed directly to the penalty phase on the initial report. ESPECIALLY if the suspect is, shall we say, of the surplus melanin persuasion.

  35. 35.

    Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN)

    September 12, 2014 at 6:18 pm

    I’m feeling better today than I was yesterday. I said fuck the job search and fuck the Kickstarter. I’m just writing. (More accurately, revising.) That’s it. Writing is stressful, but a completely different, more rewarding, kind of stressful.

  36. 36.

    Roger Moore

    September 12, 2014 at 6:19 pm

    @Amir Khalid:

    Hasn’t General Hayden been paying attention?

    Since Obama is of the wrong party, everything he says must be contradicted.

  37. 37.

    Corner Stone

    September 12, 2014 at 6:19 pm

    @Patrick: I hope you’ll note that I did not, in fact, pile on and pre-guilt him.
    He has allegedly admitted to “whooping” the child, but how badly can a 4 year old act out to earn open lacerations that a doctor *and* a colleague both feel are abuse?

  38. 38.

    Dog On Porch

    September 12, 2014 at 6:20 pm

    @srv: @srv: Commitment to avoiding bloodshed* is as good as it gets for any president.

    *(I know, “drones”).

    That said, if this country commits to war Congress should vote it up or down.

  39. 39.

    Roger Moore

    September 12, 2014 at 6:20 pm

    @Suffern ACE:

    The entire Iraq war has been like one long night of passion spent with a semi-drunk salesman you met at the regional office products distributers convention and trade show in 1997 when your marriage was starting to unravel.

    I think it’s more like Mark Sanford’s experience hiking the Appalachian Trail.

  40. 40.

    Villago Delenda Est

    September 12, 2014 at 6:20 pm

    @Corner Stone: From the photos I saw at Deadspin, that looks pretty severe. Obvious lacerations, akin to a flogging.

  41. 41.

    Corner Stone

    September 12, 2014 at 6:21 pm

    @Villago Delenda Est: This doesn’t make any sense. He’s guilty of abusing a 4 year old because he’s black?

  42. 42.

    srv

    September 12, 2014 at 6:23 pm

    Here’s what a real Texas man does with his son.

  43. 43.

    Keith G

    September 12, 2014 at 6:24 pm

    @Corner Stone: That’s Montgomery, Texas, Jake.

  44. 44.

    Another Holocene Human

    September 12, 2014 at 6:24 pm

    The war porn on NPR right now is nauseating. Mebbe I’m too uncritical about Obama. Think I had dreamy eyes watching his address the other day. But there’s no room to question him and god knows he knows more about this situation than I do. It’s that horrid feeling of giving oxygen to the war machine, dropping bombs funds their lobbying for more and MOAR WAR.

    Looking at medieval history, looks like the mess the Brits left in the middle east, authoritarian hereditary rulers, ethnic groups dumped in different countries randomly so nationalism, such as what is giving Ukraine a portion of cohesion, cannot develop or becomes destabilizing to the artificial state. It’s no wonder Iran is enemy #1 they have a border that roughly corresponds to an ethnic and language grouping and they’ve had two toss the imperialist bums out revolutions in one century. Anglo-elitist pigs furious over this one weird, old trick.

  45. 45.

    Corner Stone

    September 12, 2014 at 6:25 pm

    @sparrow:

    That is to say, I don’t dislike them either, but they usually kind of bore me. I don’t want to talk about what someone said to her cousin and oh my god for real did he really say that??! I don’t want to talk about what car you’re going to buy or how much you want the new iphone or whatever TV show kids are watching these days. If you want to talk politics, science, history, sociology… in short, if you’re an ideas person, great! We can be friends.

    This sounded like one of the greatest #humblebrags I have ever read.

  46. 46.

    Amir Khalid

    September 12, 2014 at 6:25 pm

    @Villago Delenda Est:
    Here’s what I understand from the story: Adrian Peterson was indicted for hitting one of his children with a switch. Another of his children was allegedly beaten and killed last October by another man, Joseph Patterson, the boyfriend of that child’s mother. Whoever wrote this story (I didn’t see a byline) just threw in the paragraph about the incident last year because it was also connected to Peterson. But this is a badly written story. The latter half is padding that has nothing to do with the indictment reported on in the first half.

  47. 47.

    Another Holocene Human

    September 12, 2014 at 6:26 pm

    OT: to Ozark Hillbilly, thanks for the encouragement Monday. Our arbitration went well, we pretty much licked ’em (they had nothing) and there’s been a sea change in management’s attitude already.

  48. 48.

    skerry

    September 12, 2014 at 6:27 pm

    @sparrow: Have you ever looked at meetup.com? There are hundreds of groups in Baltimore City and surrounding counties with lots of interests.

    If you are athletic, the City has a number of young adult sport leagues. My daughter, 27, plays on a kick-ball team in Patterson Park each week.

    There are lots of community organizations. If you are interested in climate change, let me know and I can point you to some. That’s where I spend my time when I’m not here.

  49. 49.

    Dr. Omed

    September 12, 2014 at 6:32 pm

    @Dog On Porch: In Turkey they speak of the derin devlet, the deep state, a congeries of elites exercising influence covertly. What America has is the derp state.

  50. 50.

    Keith G

    September 12, 2014 at 6:34 pm

    @Another Holocene Human:

    But there’s no room to question him…

    He is a politician and a mortal so there is always room for questioning and a critical examination. Whether there is evidence of poor policy formulation and implementation would be another story.

    And FWIW, I am not sure how anyone could put together a better course of action – though I guess one might exist.

  51. 51.

    Mnemosyne

    September 12, 2014 at 6:35 pm

    @Patrick:

    It’s probably going to be a tricky case, because most states have an exception if it’s the parent who causes bodily harm. There’s also a strong movement among evangelical Christians to follow a horrendous book called To Train Up a Child that advises parents to switch their children (even infants!) at the slightest hint of disobedience — Libby at LoveJoyFeminism has a long-running series about the book. There have been several fatal abuse cases that seem to be linked to parents following the advice in the book, but of course the authors deny any responsibility.

    I will be completely unsurprised if it turns out that Peterson was following the “parenting” advice given by that book because it was recommended to him by someone at church.

  52. 52.

    Another Holocene Human

    September 12, 2014 at 6:35 pm

    @Dog On Porch: Agreed.

    It feels wrong to throw up my hands and say, Hey, I’m no ME expert, let Obama handle it. Also, seems like he knows that another American invasion is no solution and he’s trying to empower, armtwist local players. The Saudis have been quietly pouring kerosene on this fire here, don’t forget. But yeah. Fuck it. How many times has this man kept us out of a war? He’s earned to us a degree of benefit of the doubt.

  53. 53.

    Trollhattan

    September 12, 2014 at 6:35 pm

    @skerry:
    Was gonna say, time to volunteer for a worthy cause. Lord knows, in any metro area the budgets have been slashed for community services, early childhood education, the arts, libraries, parks, etc. and there’s a bottomless need for help. I understand the Democrat Party(tm) will be happy to take some free time off your hands, and you can share in everybody’s contempt for the teabag set while dialing for voters.

    Or, join a gym, take ‘roids and in a couple of months, begin to yell at people.

  54. 54.

    Villago Delenda Est

    September 12, 2014 at 6:37 pm

    @Corner Stone: Well, given that the prosecutor had to go another round with a grand jury, it appears that SOMEONE has a hard on for doing something to this guy, and given the state we’re talking about, I have my doubts as to the blindness of justice.

  55. 55.

    Trollhattan

    September 12, 2014 at 6:38 pm

    @Mnemosyne:
    Speaking of loomingactual problems for the NFL.

    The NFL estimates that nearly three in 10 former players will develop debilitating brain conditions, and that they will be stricken earlier and at least twice as often as the general population.

    The disclosure Friday comes in separate actuarial data the league and players’ lawyers released as part of their proposed $765 million settlement of thousands of concussion lawsuits.

    Both the league and lead players’ lawyers expect about 6,000 of the 19,400 retired players, or 28 percent, to develop Alzheimer’s disease or at least moderate dementia. Dozens more will be diagnosed with Lou Gehrig’s or Parkinson’s disease during their lives, according to the data.

    The reports were prepared for Senior U.S. District Judge Anita B. Brody, who is presiding over the class-action lawsuit in Philadelphia that accuses the NFL of hiding information that linked concussions to brain injuries.

    The NFL report said the ex-players’ diagnosis rates would be “materially higher than those expected in the general population” and would come at “notably younger ages.”

    http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory/estimate-10-nfl-retirees-face-cognitive-woes-25462984

    Three in ten.

  56. 56.

    Amir Khalid

    September 12, 2014 at 6:38 pm

    Proof that Sarah Palin is really a cartoon character.

  57. 57.

    Villago Delenda Est

    September 12, 2014 at 6:39 pm

    @Another Holocene Human:

    How many times has this man kept us out of a war?

    This is precisely the problem the chickenhawks of the Village have with the guy. Other people and their kids need to die for the benefit of their ratings.

  58. 58.

    sparrow

    September 12, 2014 at 6:40 pm

    @skerry: Thanks! I am going to check that out for sure. I see a hiking group that looks promising.

  59. 59.

    Villago Delenda Est

    September 12, 2014 at 6:41 pm

    @Amir Khalid: Yeah, which is why someone at ESPN needs to be on unemployment right now.

    Very sloppy “reporting”, conflating two totally separate incidents and providing ZERO information on the crime that Petersen has been indicted for.

  60. 60.

    srv

    September 12, 2014 at 6:42 pm

    Sarah man’s up:

    Former Alaska Governor Sarah Palin said she owes America a “global apology” for the 2008 GOP presidential ticket’s loss to President Barack Obama and Vice President Joe Biden.

    During an interview with Fox News’ Sean Hannity, Palin spoke about Obama’s long-term strategy for defeating the Islamic State — a militant group formerly known as ISIS or ISIL — that he laid out in a speech Wednesday night.

    “As I watched the speech last night, Sean, the thought going through my mind is, ‘I owe America a global apology. Because John McCain, through all of this, John McCain should be our president,'” Palin said.

  61. 61.

    Trollhattan

    September 12, 2014 at 6:44 pm

    And also, also, too, too. FFS people!

    Ex-Baltimore Ravens star Ray Rice wasn’t playing in last night’s game against the Pittsburgh Steelers, but his fans were there in force, including many women who wore the disgraced football player’s jersey with pride.

    “Although I do not support Ray Rice’s actions, I do support him as a person,” Taylor Whitacre, 23, of Winchester, Virginia, told ABC News today. “You can’t allow one person’s mistake to define the person they are or the potential they have. If we didn’t support people even when we don’t always care for some of their decisions, a lot of us wouldn’t have friends.”

    “I wish [Rice] nothing but success and can’t wait to see him back in the NFL,” added Whitacre, who was at the game in her Rice jersey.

    Other women shared her sentiment, many saying they wore the jersey to make a statement.

    “There’s two sides to every story,” said Racquel Bailey, a 23-year-old waitress in Baltimore. “I saw the video. That’s their personal business, and it shouldn’t have affected his career. I don’t agree with domestic violence, but she’s still with him, so obviously it wasn’t that big of a deal. Everyone should just drop it.”

    Christina Burke, from Bel Air, Maryland, is another woman who supports Rice.

    “I just don’t believe one action or mistake should define a person,” she told ESPN

    http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/women-wearing-ray-rice-jerseys/story?id=25455609

    What, they couldn’t find anybody to say, “I think he’s dreamy!”?

  62. 62.

    sparrow

    September 12, 2014 at 6:45 pm

    @Trollhattan: I’ve tried volunteering my time for tutoring (I have a PhD in physics, and have a decent teaching/tutoring record) but a lot of the organizations around here seem really disorganized and will respond to my first email but never follow up (partly on me, I guess). It doesn’t help that I’m a workaholic, too. I think not having friends kind of reinforces workaholic tendencies, and vice versa.

  63. 63.

    Trollhattan

    September 12, 2014 at 6:45 pm

    @srv:
    Wow, talk about lessons not learned.

  64. 64.

    Ella in New Mexico

    September 12, 2014 at 6:46 pm

    @sparrow:

    It sucks being an introvert, which doesn’t mean shy. It means you are highly selective and prefer fewer but deeper relationships to the more widely diversified Friends list of the common extrovert. It’s even harder when you’re a smart, introspective, creatively thinking introvert. Like my husband has said to me on more than one occasion “It’s really lonely in there, isn’t it?” ;-)

    It’s always going to be harder for you to evade a little loneliness. But take the advice of some of the previous posters: participate in things that matter to you so that you can at least cross paths with more like-minded people. Don’t isolate yourself. Sometimes, go against your sense that someone is not up to the task of being your friend and take that relationship for what it CAN be. Come from a place of openness to the commonness of your mutual human experience. You’d be surprised how much you can learn from and enjoy the company of people you had no idea had anything going on up top, nor thought you had a single thing in common with. Sometimes a “good enough” friendship slowly reveals itself to be much better than you thought it would be.

    Buddhist thinking on stuff like this really helped me with these issues. Good luck to you.

  65. 65.

    Villago Delenda Est

    September 12, 2014 at 6:49 pm

    @Trollhattan:

    What, they couldn’t find anybody to say, “I think he’s dreamy!”?

    I don’t think they tried hard enough, myself.

    Sheesh.

  66. 66.

    Tenar Darell

    September 12, 2014 at 6:49 pm

    @sparrow: Captain Awkward might have some good tips. Lots of the advice is geared toward introvert issues. And Mnemosyne’s suggestion about volunteering sounds like something I’ve read there before.

    I hear you on small talk. In my experience your love of facts may be used to brush up on one topic that more people are comfortable chatting about, like mystery novels, or like fun apps for phones can be useful. I’ve done this not to “make friends” but to enable me to be able to not stand around tongue tied as I try not to enthuse about the latest thing I read on the Civil War or Jim Crow or the prison industrial complex. Your mileage may vary.

  67. 67.

    srv

    September 12, 2014 at 6:49 pm

    @Trollhattan: The Stars Who Beat Women And The Fans Who Love Them.

    Has The Bieber started slapping women around yet?

  68. 68.

    SatanicPanic

    September 12, 2014 at 6:49 pm

    @srv: Wait, is she admitting some blame for his loss?

  69. 69.

    Villago Delenda Est

    September 12, 2014 at 6:50 pm

    @srv: And I thank FSM every single day that this ditz was not a hearbeat away from the fucking launch codes.

  70. 70.

    Roger Moore

    September 12, 2014 at 6:51 pm

    @Trollhattan:

    The NFL estimates that nearly three in 10 former players will develop debilitating brain conditions, and that they will be stricken earlier and at least twice as often as the general population.

    Suddenly it makes a lot more sense to me that hardly any current NFL head coaches had substantial playing careers.

  71. 71.

    Villago Delenda Est

    September 12, 2014 at 6:51 pm

    @Amir Khalid: Jessica Rabbit is more realistic than Sarah Palin.

  72. 72.

    Villago Delenda Est

    September 12, 2014 at 6:52 pm

    @Roger Moore: Hmmm….still doesn’t explain Roger Goodall’s brain dead handling of L’Affaire Rice.

  73. 73.

    Dog On Porch

    September 12, 2014 at 6:56 pm

    @Roger Moore: In turn, I estimate that 90% of NFL couch potatoes will suffer brain damage from the oceans of beer they will swill over a lifetime.

  74. 74.

    Villago Delenda Est

    September 12, 2014 at 6:56 pm

    @srv: For my next trick, we’ll go to Burgers and Bullets and fire an Uzi!

  75. 75.

    Mnemosyne

    September 12, 2014 at 6:57 pm

    @Trollhattan:

    I can’t help wondering if Rice’s actions are related to CTE, or if he’s just an asshole. As far as I know, until this incident, he didn’t have a bad reputation and people’s personalities can drastically change with that kind of brain injury, but abusers are also very good at concealing their actions, so it’s hard to say.

  76. 76.

    SatanicPanic

    September 12, 2014 at 6:58 pm

    I am down to watching only the Super Bowl, but I think my New Year’s resolution is to skip it. Football is fucked up.

  77. 77.

    Ella in New Mexico

    September 12, 2014 at 6:59 pm

    @srv: Was the Todd-ster sitting next to her with nasal packing hanging out of his schnozz?

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/sarah-palin-family-reportedly-involved-drunken-brawl

    Apparently, she even put up a couple of Facebook posts to give herself some kind of alibi that she was “out of town” at some religious event during the brawl. A cop that was there that night actually commented on her site that she shouldn’t fib, cuz she saw her there. All so she can continue to shove her mug in the Fauz newsfeed cameras.

    Incredible absence of any and all insight, shame or conscience in that woman. She’s a frigging sociopath.

  78. 78.

    srv

    September 12, 2014 at 7:00 pm

    @SatanicPanic: She’s going to go on a global apology tour.

  79. 79.

    Roger Moore

    September 12, 2014 at 7:01 pm

    @Villago Delenda Est:

    still doesn’t explain Roger Goodall’s brain dead handling of L’Affaire Rice.

    It doesn’t say that only former players suffer from brain damage, just that they’re more likely to than the average man on the street. Goodall is the exception.

  80. 80.

    Trollhattan

    September 12, 2014 at 7:01 pm

    @sparrow:
    To be honest, after I decided I was old enough to no longer “need” to socialize with work folks outside the office, I made new friends at a much slower clip. What has changed my social life more than anything else was having a kid in school–suddenly you’re thrown into the parental hopper with a host of other folks, many of whom were in the same “what the heck do we do now?” mode. It’s like freshman dorm.

    This is not a “go have babies” suggestion. [Okay, wait, I’ll put on some Mormon underwear and point out your failure to not have eight little brats already. See, you and I now belong to a club!]

    In sum, it was a big lifestyle shift, not exactly a tactical one, that had me meeting dozens of folks with at least this one thing in common and out of that cohort I’ve made many close friends. Definitely product of straying far, far from my comfort zone.

    Some of them still gossip since we all live in the same part of town, but what can you do?

  81. 81.

    Villago Delenda Est

    September 12, 2014 at 7:02 pm

    @Ella in New Mexico:

    Apparently, she even put up a couple of Facebook posts to give herself some kind of alibi that she was “out of town” at some religious event during the brawl.

    This is her reaction to anything bad. Lie about it, no matter how transparent and obvious the lie. The woman lies with greater ease than she breathes.

    Agree with you that she shows all the signs of being a sociopath, and she’s raising her spawn that way, too.

  82. 82.

    Ella in New Mexico

    September 12, 2014 at 7:03 pm

    @Mnemosyne: I have wondered the same thing about him. He did state that he had been drinking straight liquor heavily that night. Heavy alcohol mixed with TBI often turn violent in otherwise non-violent people.

  83. 83.

    Roger Moore

    September 12, 2014 at 7:04 pm

    @srv:

    She’s going to go on a global apology tour.

    Can she invite Shrub and his puppeteer along with her? The stop in the Netherlands is sure to be fun.

  84. 84.

    Amir Khalid

    September 12, 2014 at 7:04 pm

    @srv:
    Very generous of Sarah Palin, offering to take the blame for the defeat in 2008. But it’s hilarious to say McCain is the President America should have had to take on the Islamic State. A man who couldn’t avoid embarrassing himself before David Letterman’s TV audience simply doesn’t have the crisis-management chops to be POTUS.

  85. 85.

    Mike in NC

    September 12, 2014 at 7:05 pm

    Idiot Air Force generals have been saying since the 1920s that airpower along will win wars. They should stick to what they’re good at, like playing golf.

  86. 86.

    Howard Beale IV

    September 12, 2014 at 7:05 pm

    @Amir Khalid: And to think that McCain could have actually won had it not been for his selection of Governor Mooselini as Veep.

    Shit, there’s dozens of mayors who were more qualified than Caribou Barbie. And the fact that Walnuts still gets scads of airtime for his babbling on current events?!?! The sooner he vapor locks, the better.

  87. 87.

    JPL

    September 12, 2014 at 7:07 pm

    @srv: And what countries is she going? All of them, of course.

  88. 88.

    Villago Delenda Est

    September 12, 2014 at 7:07 pm

    @Amir Khalid

    A man who couldn’t avoid embarrassing himself before David Letterman’s TV audience simply doesn’t have the crisis-management chops to be POTUS.

    Precisely. I still strongly feel that’s the incident that demonstrated, conclusively, that McBomb was totally out of his depth. A non-weasel wouldn’t have concocted such a very easily revealed lie.

  89. 89.

    Mike in NC

    September 12, 2014 at 7:07 pm

    @srv: Sarah Palin should just get it all over with and apologize for ever being conceived.

  90. 90.

    JPL

    September 12, 2014 at 7:09 pm

    @Villago Delenda Est: My favorite McCain moment was looking for Mr. Puddles.

  91. 91.

    Villago Delenda Est

    September 12, 2014 at 7:09 pm

    @JPL: “John…can I call you a cab?”

    Letterman milked that idiocy for a solid two weeks.

    But yeah, Stewart really got mileage out of that…”I have snausages!”

  92. 92.

    JPL

    September 12, 2014 at 7:17 pm

    @Villago Delenda Est: You have to admit that when you think of that sketch, you laugh. It was priceless.

  93. 93.

    Trollhattan

    September 12, 2014 at 7:18 pm

    @Villago Delenda Est:
    LGM has a post up on the story, including this.

    CBS Minnesota has a lot more details:

    Sports Radio 610 in Houston obtained a draft of the police report which says Peterson admitted that he did, in his words, “whoop” one of his children last May while the boy was visiting him in Houston.

    When the 4-year-old boy returned to Minnesota, his mother took him to a doctor. The police report said the boy told the doctor Peterson had hit him with a branch from a tree.

    The doctor told investigators that the boy had a number of lacerations on his thighs, along with bruise-like marks on his lower back and buttocks and cuts on his hand.

    The police report says the doctor described some of the marks as open wounds and termed it “child abuse.” Another examiner agreed, calling the cuts “extensive.”

    http://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2014/09/wonder-roger-goodell-drinking-man

    This is not done, not to any child, ever, by anybody.

    Women, children…what, beating each other on the field isn’t enough?

  94. 94.

    Trollhattan

    September 12, 2014 at 7:20 pm

    @Mike in NC: Definitely with Farley on folding the Air Force back into the other services.

  95. 95.

    Trollhattan

    September 12, 2014 at 7:22 pm

    @Howard Beale IV: The frightening thought is who would Arizona send to the senate to replace him? Jan Brewer? That Burgers and Bullets owner?

  96. 96.

    Hal

    September 12, 2014 at 7:22 pm

    @Howard Beale IV:

    And to think that McCain could have actually won had it not been for his selection of Governor Mooselini as Veep.

    McCain was losing. His selection of Palin was the only thing that gave that election any semblance of an actual race. My question is, did Palin scare off voters or did she give him a slight boost. Either way he was toast.

  97. 97.

    Mnemosyne

    September 12, 2014 at 7:22 pm

    @Trollhattan:

    Like I said above, I can almost guarantee you that Peterson was given a hideous book called To Train Up A Child by someone at his church, because beating your child with a switch is exactly the advice the book gives parents. I don’t want to link to the book itself, but there’s a link at #51 above to some coverage about the book. It’s absolutely sickening and yet a lot of conservative Christian parents buy into it hook, line, and sinker.

    ETA: And this is not at all meant to be an excuse for Peterson, because any rational parent would read that book and say, “Holy fuck, what is wrong with these people?!”

  98. 98.

    scav

    September 12, 2014 at 7:23 pm

    ♬ ♪ ♭
    Family Values
    Family Values
    G O P
    G O P
    Apply to Other People
    ‘pply to other people
    Just Not Me
    Just Not Me
    ♩ ♬ ♫

    They’re getting a round going. . .

  99. 99.

    Feebog

    September 12, 2014 at 7:25 pm

    Spending the second day in the hospital after a fairly serious episode of A Fib. Hoped to get out this afternoon, but looks like I am stuck here for at least one more day. Food sucks, but I have some very good looking nurses taking care of me, so there’s that. Getting old is not for sissies.

  100. 100.

    Howard Beale IV

    September 12, 2014 at 7:26 pm

    @Trollhattan: The reality is it probably won’t matter who they elect. Even when McCain was on the right side of an issue he got whacked.

  101. 101.

    NotMax

    September 12, 2014 at 7:27 pm

    Hardly a revelation regarding the U.S.A., but found the listings by country interesting.

  102. 102.

    Trollhattan

    September 12, 2014 at 7:27 pm

    Crap, just checked and it’s 102. Bicycle ride home tonight is going to be really swell!

  103. 103.

    Commenting at Balloon Juice since 1937

    September 12, 2014 at 7:29 pm

    How about ISIL can have their territory in exchange for any and all people they have kidnapped (Iraqui women, journalists, etc)? Until their neighbors give a shit, why should we?

  104. 104.

    Amir Khalid

    September 12, 2014 at 7:30 pm

    @Villago Delenda Est:
    And when McCain did get to DC, where the George Walker Bush administration had stage-managed events to try to make him look presidential, he blew it. In explaining his endorsement of Obama, Colin Powell said that crisis was like a “final exam” for both candidates — with the clear implication that Obama aced it and McCain, well, didn’t.

  105. 105.

    Trollhattan

    September 12, 2014 at 7:31 pm

    @Mnemosyne:
    The hell is with rich people who don’t follow the rules and hire undocumented nannies to run their households and raise their children? Do we have to teach these people everything?

  106. 106.

    JPL

    September 12, 2014 at 7:34 pm

    Just so everyone knows.. Peterson’s lawyer said, “It is important to remember that Adrian never intended to harm his son and deeply regrets the unintentional injury.”

  107. 107.

    Amir Khalid

    September 12, 2014 at 7:40 pm

    Just curious: would anyone here eat a cheeseburger that looks like this?

  108. 108.

    Roger Moore

    September 12, 2014 at 7:44 pm

    @NotMax:

    Hardly a revelation regarding the U.S.A.

    Really? I thought it was something of a revelation, because I keep hearing about how service in the USA is massively behind the rest of the developed world, but those numbers suggest that we’re in the same general range as Western Europe by all the metrics they’re using. I find that very interesting.

  109. 109.

    Roger Moore

    September 12, 2014 at 7:47 pm

    @Amir Khalid:
    Once I knew it was colored with squid ink, I would be intrigued. I like squid ink pasta, so a squid ink burger would be worth trying.

  110. 110.

    scav

    September 12, 2014 at 7:48 pm

    @Amir Khalid: If it showed up magically on my plate and I was hungry? Probably, but I would be missing the squid and polenta all the while. Would I pay money for it . . . come on . . .

    eta @Roger Moore: The pasta’s good too, I may have just happened upon an unusually good batch of polenta.

  111. 111.

    JPL

    September 12, 2014 at 7:52 pm

    @Amir Khalid: No. Although I eat beef, it is not from a fast food place.

  112. 112.

    Mnemosyne

    September 12, 2014 at 7:52 pm

    @JPL:

    I’m telling ya — his defense is going to be that his pastor/someone at his church gave him the Pearls’ book and he believes every word of it. He’s going to go straight to a religious defense. People who aren’t in those circles have no idea how pernicious that fucking book is and how widely it’s followed.

  113. 113.

    Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN)

    September 12, 2014 at 7:55 pm

    Three weeks until hockey season. I can make it that long. I think.

  114. 114.

    NotMax

    September 12, 2014 at 7:55 pm

    In FYWP moderation limbo. *sigh*

  115. 115.

    JPL

    September 12, 2014 at 7:58 pm

    @Mnemosyne: IMO, a good prosecution could counter with, he’s a football player and the boy is four. Now that we know that he used his hands besides the switch, it will be harder to defend. He admitted guilt by the statement.

  116. 116.

    Suzanne

    September 12, 2014 at 8:01 pm

    @sparrow: Come to Phoenix and hang out with me. You sound cool.

  117. 117.

    Amir Khalid

    September 12, 2014 at 8:02 pm

    @Roger Moore:
    From what I read in these threads, I understand that internet service varies widely over the US, depending on the remoteness of where one lives.

  118. 118.

    Mnemosyne

    September 12, 2014 at 8:04 pm

    @JPL:

    Don’t get me wrong — the asshole should absolutely be prosecuted, and hopefully he’s already only getting supervised visits with his son. But if he brings up during the trial that he was just following the Pearls’ advice on how to keep his baby close to Jeebus and didn’t mean any harm, I’m not sure a Texas jury would convict him.

  119. 119.

    burnspbesq

    September 12, 2014 at 8:04 pm

    @srv:

    Has The Bieber started slapping women around yet?

    No woman will get within arm’s reach of that … thing.

  120. 120.

    Roger Moore

    September 12, 2014 at 8:06 pm

    @Amir Khalid:
    That’s true. They are excluding any results that are more than some distance from the server they’re contacting. That helps to exclude problems from the backbone, but it also disguises problems with poor service in rural areas.

  121. 121.

    Suffern ACE

    September 12, 2014 at 8:06 pm

    @Amir Khalid: based on what we post and stream, I don’t know why we want it to arrive faster.

  122. 122.

    JPL

    September 12, 2014 at 8:06 pm

    @Mnemosyne: That’s true. There will be tears and justification about how he just wants his children to grow up being good men. Good for the Vikings for sitting him out, though. Most teams wouldn’t do that, imo.

  123. 123.

    burnspbesq

    September 12, 2014 at 8:09 pm

    @JPL:

    Just so everyone knows.. Peterson’s lawyer said, “It is important to remember that Adrian never intended to harm his son and deeply regrets the unintentional injury.”

    SMH

  124. 124.

    JPL

    September 12, 2014 at 8:17 pm

    @burnspbesq: Let me be the first to say, it’s good news for the Patriots.

  125. 125.

    WaterGirl

    September 12, 2014 at 8:18 pm

    @Feebog: That really sucks. So sorry to hear that! Give ’em hell and flirt with the nurses and get ready to go home in a day or two. Hang in there, sending good thoughts your way!!

  126. 126.

    burnspbesq

    September 12, 2014 at 8:25 pm

    @JPL:

    I think I am officially beyond caring about the NFL.

    But I will be setting my alarm for 4:30 tomorrow so I don’t miss Arsenal – Man Sucky.

    Aside: it’s great to have a relationship with your kid that is grounded in trust and mutual respect, but sometimes you end up with TMI. I texted him at about 3:30 my time to remind him that Arsenal has a match at 12:45 tomorrow, so if he has any errands to run he should get them in early (he now lives off Stroud Green Rd., about six blocks from the Finsbury Park tube station). His return text begins with “I’m too drunk to get up early …”

  127. 127.

    Poopyman

    September 12, 2014 at 8:26 pm

    @sparrow: History, you say? Well, you know what anniversary is this weekend, starting today. Once the festivities are over next week why don’t you wander over to the Maryland Historical Society at 201 West Monument Street, see what they’ve got, and see if there’s anyone interesting there? And of course, do avail yourself of the festivities.

  128. 128.

    Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN)

    September 12, 2014 at 8:32 pm

    I can’t stand Baylor but their offense is fun to watch.

  129. 129.

    Corner Stone

    September 12, 2014 at 8:32 pm

    @Trollhattan:

    Crap, just checked and it’s 102. Bicycle ride home tonight is going to be really swell!

    It’s like a weird karma you posted that at #102.

  130. 130.

    Suffern ACE

    September 12, 2014 at 8:33 pm

    @Poopyman: I would think that the most interesting volunteers in Baltimore would be found at the American Visionary Art Museum. Although parking there is a pain.

  131. 131.

    Steeplejack

    September 12, 2014 at 8:36 pm

    @Corner Stone:

    This blog is Fahrenheit?! Christ, I thought it was Celsius all along. This explains a lot.

  132. 132.

    JPL

    September 12, 2014 at 8:38 pm

    @burnspbesq: Cute. I tried to call my son at his apt when he was in college.
    The phone was disconnected and the phone company said there didn’t appear to be a reason for that. Of course, I wanted to do what any parent would do and call the police for a check but fortunately, someone talked me down. They hadn’t paid their bill, btw.

  133. 133.

    Corner Stone

    September 12, 2014 at 8:39 pm

    @Villago Delenda Est:

    Well, given that the prosecutor had to go another round with a grand jury, it appears that SOMEONE has a hard on for doing something to this guy, and given the state we’re talking about, I have my doubts as to the blindness of justice.

    Lacking context of any other piece of data, if they had shown me a doctor’s report determining it as “abuse” and “excessive”, and shown me pics of healing open wounds, I would’ve voted to indict.
    Hopefully a trial will further explain to us all how the 4 year old deserved it, and the indictment occurred because he’s black.

  134. 134.

    NotMax

    September 12, 2014 at 8:42 pm

    @Steeplejack

    Kelvin. Definitely Kelvin.

    /Rain Man

  135. 135.

    Howard Beale IV

    September 12, 2014 at 8:47 pm

    @Steeplejack: Could be in the Reamur scale….

  136. 136.

    Comrade Mary

    September 12, 2014 at 8:52 pm

    Toronto just got extra weird.

    Rob Ford has officially withdrawn from the mayoral race. On Wednesday, it was revealed that the mayor had been hospitalized because of a tumour in his abdomen. He does not yet have a firm diagnosis, but the mayor’s brother Doug Ford has indicated that the mayor is in the “fight of his life.”

  137. 137.

    Steeplejack

    September 12, 2014 at 8:52 pm

    I’m heading into the final weekend of my three-week Las Vegas interlude. Going to dinner at Five Guys in a bit with my old college friend. Tomorrow night we’ll probably hit Penn’s Thai House again. That was really good. RWNJ brother flies in from South America late Sunday morning, and then I fly back to D.C. Monday afternoon.

    The trip has been mostly a success, with a few episodes of family drama (the mom unit) and a lot of time spent navigating the health-care system to get her injured back treated. Very frustrating. But we did get to spend some quality time together.

    I will definitely be glad to get back home and see the housecat. The last hurdle is the return flight, which will probably be packed. Doubly painful because on the way out the plane was about a quarter full and I had a whole row to myself. Sheer luxury!

  138. 138.

    Corner Stone

    September 12, 2014 at 8:53 pm

    @Steeplejack:

    Christ, I thought it was Celsius all along. This explains a lot.

    This blog has never had even 2/5ths of the savoire fair needed to be Celsius.
    It’s an RPM hard drive in an SSD world.

  139. 139.

    Anne Laurie

    September 12, 2014 at 8:54 pm

    @Feebog:

    Spending the second day in the hospital after a fairly serious episode of A Fib. Hoped to get out this afternoon, but looks like I am stuck here for at least one more day.

    Ouch! Sending positive thoughts in your direction…

  140. 140.

    Corner Stone

    September 12, 2014 at 8:55 pm

    @Steeplejack: Speaking of Vegas, Ben Jealous is now on the Chris Hayes show.
    Not sure if he’s drunk/hungover this time.

  141. 141.

    Anne Laurie

    September 12, 2014 at 8:58 pm

    @Mnemosyne: It’d be nice if we could blame it all on one vile book, wouldn’t it? But from the clip I saw on the tv news, Peterson says he just treated his kid “like my daddy treated me”. Physical abuse, aka ‘strict discipline’ is still the default for child-raising in far too many American families, religious or not, because that’s how so many people remember growing up. It’ll be another couple generations, at best, before the default is not hitting kids to “train” them!

  142. 142.

    Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN)

    September 12, 2014 at 8:59 pm

    Anyone want to guess what’ll happen to Goodell if the Ray Rice extra suspension gets overturned on appeal? It sounds like the official notice he sent to the NFLPA is full of bullshit about the video showing something completely different than what Rice previously admitted to. Given that there are multiple witnesses who have said that that’s not true it might not stand up in front of an arbitrator.

  143. 143.

    Howard Beale IV

    September 12, 2014 at 9:00 pm

    @Corner Stone:

    It’s an RPM hard drive in an SSD world.

    Dig this: Hitachi Global Storage Technologies just announced availability of helium-sealed 10 Terabyte 3.5″ hard drives.

    10 Terabytes.

    In reality, it isn’t all that surprising, given that IBM and Sony are working on 100 Terabyte tape drives.

  144. 144.

    Fair Economist

    September 12, 2014 at 9:00 pm

    @NotMax:

    Kelvin. Definitely Kelvin.

    That’s cold.

  145. 145.

    Bill Arnold

    September 12, 2014 at 9:02 pm

    @Amir Khalid:

    cheeseburger

    boingboing (David Pescovitz) called it a “gothburger”. I would not eat it. (I don’t eat meat.)

  146. 146.

    Corner Stone

    September 12, 2014 at 9:03 pm

    @Howard Beale IV:

    Hitachi Global Storage Technologies just announced availability of helium-sealed 10 Terabyte 3.5″ hard drives.

    Shoot, I still haven’t found a need to do anything beyond my 128KB expansion to my TRS-80.
    Lawn. Off.

  147. 147.

    trollhattan

    September 12, 2014 at 9:05 pm

    @Corner Stone: Hmm, co-ink-ee-dink? I think not.

    Survived, now it’s beer o’clock.

  148. 148.

    Corner Stone

    September 12, 2014 at 9:06 pm

    10 freaking TB. In a few months it’ll probably cost about $10 per TB.
    Then it will be obsolete a few months after that.

  149. 149.

    Dog On Porch

    September 12, 2014 at 9:06 pm

    @Feebog: The moral being it’s about time you quit your lying, FIBbing ways (get it?). Then put on a pair of boots, and pull them up by their straps. In another words, suck it up, punk.

    Ted Cruz 2016…

  150. 150.

    trollhattan

    September 12, 2014 at 9:10 pm

    @Howard Beale IV:
    Want!

    Just saw the first 512GB SD card. Almost $800. I can wait a year or two.

  151. 151.

    Corner Stone

    September 12, 2014 at 9:10 pm

    @trollhattan: Damn. You remind me of Blair Underwood as the president in that TV show The Event.
    Anyone else remember how awesome LA Law was?

  152. 152.

    Howard Beale IV

    September 12, 2014 at 9:12 pm

    @Amir Khalid: The closer you are to a major metroplex (i.e. cable) the better your chances of getting reasonable service. DSL can become adequate only if the ILEC runs fiber to the node. The last best options is fixed point wireless (Motorola Canopy deployments).

    If you don’t have any of the above? Forget it.

  153. 153.

    Steeplejack

    September 12, 2014 at 9:13 pm

    @Corner Stone:

    LOL. True dat.

  154. 154.

    Corner Stone

    September 12, 2014 at 9:14 pm

    Poor Rachel Maddow. Yes, the Obama admin has been guilty of using propaganda.
    Sorry to break it to you.

  155. 155.

    Howard Beale IV

    September 12, 2014 at 9:16 pm

    @Corner Stone: Whatever it is yer smoking, please let me know, so I can avoid it.

  156. 156.

    Corner Stone

    September 12, 2014 at 9:20 pm

    @Howard Beale IV: What do you mean?
    I can get a 4TB drive right now for under $140. Did I misunderstand your comment somehow?

  157. 157.

    Howard Beale IV

    September 12, 2014 at 9:25 pm

    @Corner Stone: Yep. Yer slightly off by an order of magnitude.

  158. 158.

    Corner Stone

    September 12, 2014 at 9:28 pm

    @Howard Beale IV: Please to explain it to me then. Slowly, and with no jargon.
    Thanks.

  159. 159.

    Howard Beale IV

    September 12, 2014 at 9:41 pm

    @Corner Stone: First you said you in a few months storage will be $10 per TB, then you said you can get a 4 TB drive for $140.

    Ain’t me who’s got the explain’ to do.

  160. 160.

    Corner Stone

    September 12, 2014 at 9:46 pm

    @Howard Beale IV: I don’t think it’s too out of bounds to say that in a short amount of time a 10TB drive will be $100.
    The fact that a 4TB drive is now $35 per TB is not “an order of magnitude” off.
    And that’s right now. The “in a few months” limiter is pretty simple to predict.

  161. 161.

    tybee

    September 12, 2014 at 9:47 pm

    @Howard Beale IV:

    IBM and Sony are working on 100 Terabyte tape drives.

    i needs me some of them.

  162. 162.

    Howard Beale IV

    September 12, 2014 at 9:48 pm

    @Corner Stone: That depends on the kind of drive you’re purchasing-2 year or 5 year warranty. Makes a big difference price-wise

  163. 163.

    Corner Stone

    September 12, 2014 at 9:51 pm

    @Howard Beale IV: What are you babbling about now?
    http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/Seagate-Expansion-Desktop-hard-drive-4-TB-USB-3.0/2951745.aspx
    A 3 year warranty is $29. In any event, not “an order of magnitude” off.
    And if I wanted to quibble about warranties, I am sure I would have. Since I do not…meh.

  164. 164.

    Howard Beale IV

    September 12, 2014 at 9:56 pm

    @Corner Stone: I’m talking about enterprise class drives vs. consumer class drives. But since you can’t tell the difference, i’ll let you wallow in your ignorance.

  165. 165.

    Corner Stone

    September 12, 2014 at 10:00 pm

    @Howard Beale IV: Just so I get this straight, you have no idea what you’re accusing me of then when you say I’m an order of magnitude off?
    Thanks

  166. 166.

    rikyrah

    September 12, 2014 at 10:03 pm

    Ferguson tragedy becoming a farce

    What happened in Ferguson, Mo., last month was a tragedy. What’s on course to happen there next month will be a farce.

    October is when a grand jury is expected to decide whether to indict the white police officer, Darren Wilson, who killed an unarmed black teenager by firing at least six bullets into him. It’s a good bet the grand jurors won’t charge him, because all signs indicate that the St. Louis County prosecutor, Robert McCulloch, doesn’t want them to…

    The latest evidence that the fix is in came this week from The Post’s Kimberly Kindy and Carol Leonnig, who discovered that McCulloch’s office has declined so far to recommend any charges to the grand jury. Instead, McCulloch’s prosecutors handling the case are taking the highly unusual course of dumping all evidence on the jurors and leaving them to make sense of it.

    McCulloch’s office claims that this is a way to give more authority to the grand jurors, but it looks more like a way to avoid charging Wilson at all — and to use the grand jury as cover for the outrage that will ensue. It is often said that a grand jury will indict a ham sandwich if a prosecutor asks it to. But the opposite is also true. A grand jury is less likely to deliver an indictment — even a much deserved one — if a prosecutor doesn’t ask for it…

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/dana-milbank-ferguson-tragedy-becoming-a-farce/2014/09/12/e52226ca-3a82-11e4-9c9f-ebb47272e40e_story.html

  167. 167.

    Howard Beale IV

    September 12, 2014 at 10:08 pm

    @tybee: Gonna be a while until they come up with a standard. Once they do, LTO will be dead as a doorknob.

  168. 168.

    WaterGirl

    September 12, 2014 at 10:10 pm

    @rikyrah: Just when you think it can’t get any more maddening…

    Why is there not a special prosecutor for this case? Thank god that (hopefully) the DOJ will step in if nothing happens locally.

  169. 169.

    tybee

    September 12, 2014 at 10:14 pm

    @Howard Beale IV:

    damn. i have cases of the damn things. :)

  170. 170.

    satby

    September 12, 2014 at 10:37 pm

    @Feebog: hope you fell better and get sprung tomorrow!

  171. 171.

    satby

    September 12, 2014 at 10:47 pm

    @satby: feel. Feel better Feebog.

  172. 172.

    drkrick

    September 12, 2014 at 11:15 pm

    @WaterGirl:

    Why is there not a special prosecutor for this case?

    Because the (Missouri) Democratic governor decided not to ask for one.

    Questions for the lawyers – if the GJ chooses not to indict, there’s no jeopardy and a special prosecutor or someone else can come in later and indict, correct? What could McCullough do to make that impossible?

  173. 173.

    Howard Beale IV

    September 12, 2014 at 11:18 pm

    @tybee: As of what Wikipedia says is the current progression of the LTO spec, LTO-10, maxes out at 48 TB native. And that’s four generations from what is currently deployed in the field (LTO-6).

  174. 174.

    Fred

    September 13, 2014 at 3:55 am

    @Suffern ACE: Protesting a doughnut shop run by teen age girls? I think the trouble with small towns (I live in one and used to live in another) is that too many folks are just bored. They literally have nothing else to do or think about but what anybody else is doing, thinking or saying. Also the idea that some kids might be having more fun than they are just twists their panties all up in their crotches.
    Church Lady #1: ‘Did you hear that immigrant girl opened a shop called “Naughty Girls”? And she put up pictures of girls on the wall naughty clothes.
    Church Lady #2: “Well YES! I saw it at the Mall Saturday and it was a disgrace how those hussies were just laughing and wearing short skirts and makeup and I don’t know what all. Now I can’t let my kids go to the Mall ’cause now THEY want to go in that den of iniquity and buy doughnuts. Did I tell you it’s a D-I-S-G-R-A-C-E?

    Hey Church Ladys: The kids always have more fun than you. Get over it.

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