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This is epic:

In this clip, a CNN anchor and editor fail to recognize that what they have identified as an “ISIS flag” is actually a flag of dildos and butt plugs, rendered in the style of ISIS.

“If you look at the flag closely, it’s clearly not Arabic,” CNN’s Lucy Pawle admits. “In fact, it looks like it could be gobbledegook. But it’s very distinctively the ISIS flag.” Heh.

I’m in tears.

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  3. 3.

    Valdivia

    Via Max Fisher, of Vox

    9 QUESTIONS ABOUT ISIS DILDO GAY PRIDE FLAGS YOU WERE TOO EMBARRASSED TO ASK 1. WHAT IS AN ISIS DILDO GAY PRIDE FLAG? Answer: it is CNN.— Max Fisher (@Max_Fisher) June 27, 2015

  4. 4.

    Gindy51

    My dog what a bunch of idiots. Doesn’t anyone there check stuff before they go live?

  9. 9.

    300baud

    If only there were some sort of organization dedicated to finding things out and then explaining them.

  11. 11.

    trollhattan

    Low-information viewers, indeed. This is why I heartily agree with the notion “the Most Important Person in TV is …John Oliver.”

    In a better TV universe, the idea of a former supporting cast member of Community and The Daily Show such as Oliver being named the most important person in television might be ridiculous — not because he wouldn’t still be great, or his show any less good, but because there’d be so many more serious options. In the world we do live in, Oliver is an oasis. Hopefully, he’ll also prove to be something else: an inspiration to those so-called “real” TV journalists to start doing better.

  15. 15.

    Keith P.

    @Gindy51: Remember that this is the station that teased a segment on irritable bowel syndrome by showing a clip from “Dumb and Dumber” where Harry sprays a toilet with explosive diarrhea.

  17. 17.

    JPL

    It appears that CNN took down the video on their site. Unfortunately, it will continue to live on the web. Six and half minutes about how concerned should we be? It gives new meaning to the word asshole.

  18. 18.

    Tommy

    @ruemara: How about it. It is at this point I note my father has a PhD in military history. Taught at the Army War College. He in fact, wrote the textbook at one point on the use of air power during war. He kind of understands both military strategy and tactics.

    I love when he is over and CNN or MSNBC has these military “experts” on talking about this or that.

    Sometimes he will say, “I had that individual in class, he couldn’t think his way out of a wet paper bag.” Or more generally speaking, “these folks have NO clue what they are talking about.”

    Why I almost never listen to much less trust any of the “experts” I see on TV these days talking about war or the military!

  24. 24.

    Schlemazel

    This really belonged in an earlier thread but I have been elbow deep in making cherry jam and dried apples.

    Does everyone know the significance of “Amazing Grace”? The song our President sang the other day was written by a guy that had been a ships captain transporting slaves from Africa to the New World. He had his moment on the “road to Damascus” and understood what he had been doing was evil. The hymn is a repentance for the wrongs he had done. That makes the significance of it at that event, by that man, even greater than simply a hymn.

  25. 25.

    Tommy

    @MattF: Yeah I got a lot of pet peeves Matt. Too many to count if I am honest with myself. But one that is close to the top of the list is people that are put on my TV as “experts,” but not only can’t they speak the language it seems they’ve not even taken the time to read a few Wikipedia entries on the area, history, religion, sects, you name it.

  29. 29.

    Tommy

    @Schlemazel: I had NO idea. As I like to say I learn something, well many things new each day. Happy I learned this and the words of the song now make more sense then they did before!

    It would be at this time I post this:

    youtube.com/watch?v=HsCp5LG_zNE

    As a Scot immigrant (back in the 1870s) you get Amazing Grace with some bagpipes and four Celtic women that can really, really sing.

  30. 30.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @Tommy: I haven’t seen him in years since I pretty much gave up on CNN, but I always thought Bergen did a pretty good job. I was kind of curious as to what he would say, not enough to look at CNN, and I guess it’s too late, but I imagine he went into a lot of generalities.

    Maybe I’m not paranoid enough, but I didn’t look at those fuzzy pictures and think, “By Jingo! An ISIS FLAG!”

    kind of related, a funny moment on MSNBC today, the anchor asked Larry Sabato (who I thought would be on Fox by now) if running against same sex marriage would help a Republican in the general, and he all but rolled his eyes at the question. “No. I hope you have a follow up”. Brought the anchor up short.

  31. 31.

    Yatsuno

    @trollhattan: Did you see his clip on the IRS? Not only was I in tears from laughing EVERY SINGLE BIT OF IT WAS TRUE. There are businesses that would KILL for the ROI the IRS puts out for compliance on taxes.

    And I thought no way could ANYONE be that stupid to mistake a sex toy flag in a Pride parade. They did. My friends in London are going to DIE from laughing over this! And according to them the mood is joyous over the US decision yesterday.

  32. 32.

    Tommy

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Oh I hear you about CNN. I got rid of cable more than a year ago. When I had it I had MSNBC on for like 10+ hours a day, used it like radio. Wasn’t looking at the TV, working, but listening in the background.*

    I NEVER turned on CNN.

    Well I got Sling (a streaming service) a few weeks ago just for ESPN, HBO, and the History Channel, but they also have CNN. I’ve tuned in for a few hours.

    I had heard here and on the other sites I read CNN mocked 24/7. I assume it was as bad as people had said.

    Well I would say it is worse. I’d argue unwatchable if you have half a mind.

    *I joke to friends and family now I don’t do this anymore my blood pressure must be lower and I’ve added years to my life :).

  33. 33.

    Keith P.

    Quotes I expected to hear during that segment:
    “ISIS forces are stretching the Middle East to its limits.”
    “ISIS will continue to push harder and harder until they reach their goal.”
    “The ISIS flag isn’t about sticking a dildo up your ass; it’s about the *freedom* to stick a dildo up your ass.”

  35. 35.

    maya

    “It’s even worse than we thought, they’re BLACK dildos and buttplugs.”
    Thanks, Obama

  36. 36.

    GregB

    Breaking news:

    CNN confuses douche-bag display for the Republican Presidential field.

  39. 39.

    Steeplejack (tablet)

    @Tommy:

    And yet your father votes Republican. Does he turn off the analytical genius when he leaves the office?

  40. 40.

    Kped

    The best part to me is the concerned British correspondent who “noticed” it makes mention of how curious it was that she was the only one who noticed and was shocked by it, and that she spoke to police and event organizers, who also werent aware.

    I swear, everyone she spoke to at that parade must have busted their guts laughing the moment she left them.

  45. 45.

    raven

    Sauteed sweet taters in duck fat, garlic black beans and mojo marinated chicken breasts!

  46. 46.

    NotMax

    @Tommy

    Some kind soul mentioned the other day that he or she can access TCM through Sling. Don’t know if it is a live stream or TCM’s on-demand option, but might want to check it out.

  49. 49.

    Tommy

    @Kped: IMHO the Brits generally speaking have more of a clue than most reporters in this nation.

    When I got rid of cable I found RT as a one media outlet for news on my Roko. Russian television. Let me say that again Russian TV based in the West.

    Now as a military brat that grew up during the “Cold War,” enduring nuclear drills at school, watching the channel still makes me feel somewhat strange.

    But their big name is Sophie Shevardnadze. Her show is SophieCo. Google it! She is doing some of the best TV journalism around. A freaking “fire plug.”

    She doesn’t back down from anything or anybody. It is wonderful to watch. Puts our so called “journalist” in our nation to shame with both what she has to say and her guest, which seem to be really smart and experts on what they are asked to talk about.

  50. 50.

    Kped

    @Tommy: Well, in this case, it was a British correspondent who found the shocking flag, so in this case, not all Brits knew had a clue!

  59. 59.

    Ruckus

    You’d have to be blind, stupid and possibly drunk to look at that flag, at that time and place and see an ISIS flag. Or any time and place actually. There was a camera operator there as well and they didn’t notice?
    OK it is Crappy Never News but still…..

    @Kped:
    I swear, everyone she spoke to at that parade must have busted their guts laughing the moment she left them.
    I can not imagine anyone there being able to not start rolling on the ground laughing within seconds after she opened her mouth.

  60. 60.

    Roger Moore

    @Tommy:

    But one that is close to the top of the list is people that are put on my TV as “experts,” but not only can’t they speak the language it seems they’ve not even taken the time to read a few Wikipedia entries on the area, history, religion, sects, you name it.

    But the people who actually understand what’s going on in the Middle East aren’t going to speak in nice sound bites, and they aren’t going to toe the company party line on what’s going on and what we should do about it. IOW, they’re only valuable if you’re interested in running a news organization, not a propaganda organization.

  61. 61.

    Tommy

    @raven: Awesome. I hated the first time or two I tried to cook duck. Then I was taught or showed how to do it, the importance of rendering the fat, and now one of my favorite foods that I rarely get my hands on. For wild game, since I don’t hunt/fish I have to rely on the kindness of family members. Many of them are very kind to me.

  62. 62.

    srv

    New times, new ideas:

    WASHINGTON – Senator Mike Lee (R-UT) and Rep. Raúl Labrador (R-ID), reintroduced legislation to clarify and strengthen religious liberty protections in federal law, by safeguarding those individuals and institutions who promote traditional marriage from government retaliation.

    The First Amendment Defense Act (S. 1598, H.R. 2802) would prevent any federal agency from denying a tax exemption, grant, contract, license, or certification to an individual, association, or business based on their belief that marriage is a union between a man and a woman. For example, the bill would prohibit the IRS from stripping a church of its tax exemption for refusing to officiate same-sex weddings.

    DOMA bought two decades, how many will FADA?

  63. 63.

    Ruckus

    @NotMax:
    OK the rest of us can all shut up now.

    Ladies and gentlemen, and anyone else out there, we have our internets winner.

  65. 65.

    NotMax

    @Tommy

    Someplace among my trove of unsorted, unfiled recipes is one for duck vindaloo that, IIRC, was pretty darn tasty.

  66. 66.

    fuckwit

    Look at how big those things on that flag are too!

    It’s no surprise it makes the media feel so butthurt.

  68. 68.

    Roger Moore

    @fuckwit:

    It’s no surprise it makes the right wing media feel so butthurt.

    You’d think giant assholes like the ones at CNN would have no trouble with something that size.

  69. 69.

    Tommy

    @NotMax: @Roger Moore: Yeah very true. In the build-up to the Iraq war (he was against it 110%) I told my father he has a resume that was 10X that of the people on our TV. His son also had a MA in PR and worked in advertising for 15+ years. Bet I could get him on TV. Make a few phone calls. I know people that know people …..

    He said why would he want to do that?

    I said to tell people the truth. War is bad. Our military can break stuff, but to rebuild a nation we can’t do that, that is not how we train our military nor their objective. People need to hear this.

    He told me he couldn’t change anything, not even going to try.

    That made me sad.

  70. 70.

    fuckwit

    @srv: Nah, a best defense is a good offense. Submit a bill stripping all churches of their tax exemption. It’s long past time to end the grift on the taxpayer’s dime.

    Also, too, veto pen.

  74. 74.

    Patrick

    @fuckwit:

    Amen. If our deficit is such a big deal, shouldn’t everybody chip in? I recently saw a catholic church with a big sign against gay marriage on their front lawn. Shouldn’t their exemption be revoked for that, if anything?

  75. 75.

    Tommy

    @NotMax: Not to pimp out a product, but Evernote has a version of their product that is food focused. Just to keep recipes the app is amazing.

    My mom and generations back everything was on paper. Moving/moved them all here.

    99% of what they cooked isn’t that original. But we make a milk pie that is better than anything I’ve found online. A few others things like that I won’t let get lost to time or paper.

  76. 76.

    Donut

    @Schlemazel:

    Obama (and/or a speechwriter who may have helped write that eulogy) certainly is aware of this information, I have no doubt. He very deliberately chose the theme of grace and the meaning of that song. I would really like to know if his choice to sing was spontaneous. Even if it wasn’t it was so moving and real. The single most heartfelt thing I’ve ever seen a president do, FWIW.

    Anyone interested in the history of the song ought to check out this film:

    spiritualityandpractice.com/films/reviews/view/22145/bill-moyers-amazing-grace

  79. 79.

    chopper

    oh come on, in moderation because a scalia quote has the dreaded spam word in it? jesus h christ, wordpress.

  80. 80.

    Gravenstone

    @Kped: Someone needed to have her on. Break out their best good ole boy stereotype voice, ‘Yer not frum aroun’ here, is yuh?”

  81. 81.

    Botsplainer

    Got to be a bit of a killjoy, but I’m disappointed in whoever chose to fly the dildo and buttplugs flag. It cheapens the effort that was made and the risks that were taken. Just personally knowing how nervous the Kentucky lawyers were in seeking this result leads me to this.

    No matter – to each his or her own.

  83. 83.

    Tommy

    @Patrick:

    Amen. If our deficit is such a big deal, shouldn’t everybody chip in?

    I don’t think the deficit is the problem it is made out to be, but count me in. I am now in the upper middle class. When my parents pass, I will be in the top 1% of not .05%. Tax me. Please tax me. Tax the shit out of me.

    I will one day be blessed with the curse that my parents died, but at that time I will have more money then I can spend in a lifetime. I am the oldest son and I get all the financial documents.

    We have what we call “the last to die” insurance policy to pay any taxes on the Estate. It stands now, according to the last statement I got, at $1.8M. Do the math.

    My parents as they get into their late 60s have asked me what I will do with the money. I say, selfly, put some in trust to earn me money, the rest I will just give away. They are like WTF, give it away.

    I am like yes give it away. How much is too much? I have more shit now then I need on many levels. I don’t need a better car. My house rocks. I got all the “nice” things I need. I don’t need more.

  85. 85.

    Kropadope

    @A guy:

    Scalias dissent is the way most Americans feel

    Funny, I know almost no one who feels that way. Not even most of the Republicans.

  86. 86.

    chopper

    wingnut’s salty tears are wonderful, but at this point i’m worried about a substantial effect on sea levels. won’t somebody think of the poor schmucks in miami?

  90. 90.

    shell

    Two talking heads on CNN yesterday discussing Obama’s eulogy, praising his passion and emotion…and then it was right back to the old tired ‘Obama’s too remote, too cold, doesn’t try to reach across the aisle, blah, blah, blah. Good God. And then to top it, mentioned that Boehner was on Air Force 1. ‘But this was the first time he’s even been on. Why is that?’ Jeez, maybe cause there hadn’t been a reason, and who knows how many times he might have refused. Can’t be seen getting Obama cooties?

  92. 92.

    Mandalay

    @Roger Moore:

    But the people who actually understand what’s going on in the Middle East aren’t going to speak in nice sound bites

    This. The structure of news shows on commercial channels is antithetical to informing the public, and anyone worth hearing would be wise to stay away from them.

    The sole purpose of such shows is to generate advertising revenue. That’s why you’ll hear absurd questions like this: “Quickly now, because we have to go to a break….Let me ask each of you: Should the US put boots on the ground in Iraq? Just ‘yes’ or ‘no’!…”. The same thing happens in presidential debates: “If you were elected president would you do {X}? Yes or no?”.

    That mindless approach actually leaves viewer less informed than if they had never watched.

  93. 93.

    opiejeanne

    @Tommy: thanks. That recipe is something I won’t make but I was curious. I make a lot of pies, mostly boysenberry or some other member of the blackberry family, as well as apple and pecan.

  94. 94.

    opiejeanne

    What is this strange colorless liquid appearing in spots on our windshield? Is it… rain?

  95. 95.

    PurpleGirl

    @Tommy: Here’s a version of Amazing Grace with some different words cut in, with video shots from the 2007 film Amazing Grace (film about William Wilberforce). This version is sung by by Chris Tomlin.

    youtube.com/watch?v=Y-4NFvI5U9w

    YouTube is Amazing Grace (My Chains Are Gone).

  98. 98.

    Villago Delenda Est

    The 24/7 news cycle make trolling these twits too easy. They’re desperate for new content, and they don’t do all the due diligence they should. There was some guy a couple of decades ago that touted himself as an “expert” in some field that CNN called on to bloviate, and that he did. The people who probably had the institutional knowledge to prevent this sort of thing got downsized by shithead MBAs when Time/Warner took over.

  100. 100.

    a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)

    @Tommy: Where’d you go to school that still did nuclear drills in the 1970s? You’ve mentioned you’re 45, right? That would put you in kindergarten by 1975. Where I grew up, the duck and cover drills were puzzling history by then.

  102. 102.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @Donut:

    I am quite certain that every single person in that church was well aware of the song’s history. As I mentioned in a thread yesterday, it is central to the African-American community and to AA worship.

  104. 104.

    ? Martin

    @Tommy: Great product. I hired my teenager daughter to move all of our paper recipes into our recipe app. Modern day chores.

  108. 108.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @opiejeanne:

    Is this milk pie day? Until today, I had never in my life heard of such a thing. But Tommy’s reference is the third, count ’em, the third time today I have seen a mention of milk pie.

    Not sure what that signifies. I hardly ever consume dairy, but I think I might have to give milk pie a try.

  109. 109.

    a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)

    @Botsplainer: Your point is a good one (unsurprisingly). I suspect that it’s easier for a Brit to fail to honor the effort and risk that pursuing Obergefell required.

  110. 110.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @different-church-lady: So that’s where they all went. Almost every comment contains some version of “if Obama really wanted X….”, always my favorite purity-bunny whine. Markos must be so proud of the house he built.

    Me, I’m waiting for the return of the PUMAs. Jerome Armstrong restarted MyDD a while back, but then let it die again.

  111. 111.

    Patrick

    @debbie:

    “Today is some of the darkest 24 hours in our nation’s history,” Cruz said on Sean Hannity’s radio show.

    So Cruz thinks the USSC decision was worse than 911 or the attack on Pearl Harbour. It doesn’t make him much of an American, does it?

  112. 112.

    Aleta

    “I seem to be the only person who spotted it, and nobody seems to be raising any questions,”

    so quick! broadcast this as fast as you can lest anyone confirm it, CNN !

  113. 113.

    opiejeanne

    @Baud: ha! You made us both laugh. We are somewhere between Buttonwillow and Lost Hills on I-5 and it’s been dripping since we left the 210, but not really raining.
    Kind of strange the way the weather shifted. We decided to head home to Washington early because the smoke from the fire at Big Bear was making life very unpleasant in Blue Jay.

  115. 115.

    debbie

    @Patrick:

    I remember seeing some GOP politician being interviewed just after the first time the Supreme Court didn’t rule against the ACA. The guy thundered, “Obamacare is the biggest disaster in the past 50 years to befall the United States.” I sense the beginning of a GOP talking point.

  116. 116.

    ? Martin

    Just to underscore a point that I haven’t really seen made over the last week that clearly illustrates what was gained this week:

    Corporations really are (for good or ill) the greatest barometer of where society is on these issues. This week we saw every major retailer including Walmart voluntarily step up and ban the sale of any merchandise with a confederate flag on it. Valley Forge Flag company will refuse to make them any longer. We also saw pretty much every major corporation put up rainbow colors yesterday on websites, Twitter, Facebook, etc. There’s no concern of boycotts, no worry about shareholder value being eroded. When Wall Street jumps on board, you’ve won. We’ve won, and won big. It’s not over, there’s a ton still left to do. Losing the confederate flag is at most symbolic. Gays can still be fired just for being gay in too many places. Families can still be denied the ability to adopt. But there is no going back. These are permanent steps forward, this is real momentum.

  117. 117.

    Schlemazel

    @raven:
    I grilled peppers tomatoes and onions and italian sausage. Some garlic with fresh basil heated in white wine & tomato paste over rotini. THe smoking grill taste makes it so good that I don’t feel bad about missing your great sounding dinner!

  118. 118.

    debbie

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    I checked the links and the first step for the “old fashioned” version of milk pie directs the baker to “stir the ingredients with your finger.” There’s a throwback!

  119. 119.

    Patrick

    @shell:

    Two talking heads on CNN yesterday discussing Obama’s eulogy, praising his passion and emotion…and then it was right back to the old tired ‘Obama’s too remote, too cold, doesn’t try to reach across the aisle, blah, blah, blah. Good God. And then to top it, mentioned that Boehner was on Air Force 1. ‘But this was the first time he’s even been on.

    These people are either idiots or just very dishonest. Either way, that’s why I haven’t watched CNN in years.

    Boehner has several times refused to return Obama’s phone calls, and CNN couldn’t possibly care less. It’s like it is a one-way street in criticizing Obama with these folks. F*** them.

  121. 121.

    shell

    Never heard the phrase ‘milk pie’ and assumed its a kind of custard pie. It is, kind of, but doesn’t contain any eggs. Martha Stewart’s site, of course, has a recipe.

  122. 122.

    Schlemazel

    @Tommy:
    Gawd I love duck. Goose too. Its probably the fat but I would eat either of those to over any other meat. The foodies that cook everything in duck fat know a good thing and I bless the chiefs that push the envelope by cooking more stiff in it. I can’t imagine anything not tasting better for duck fat.

  123. 123.

    Tommy

    @SiubhanDuinne: LOL. Not seen the other references. I always assumed it was kind of a “strange” and/or “rare” thing.

    I can assure you, done right, one of the best (if totally not healthy) things in the world.

    I connect food and taste with experiences. I saw my grandmother 3-4 times a year. A milk pie was always waiting for me. Milk pie and grandmother.

    Oh and her smothered pork chops were to die for.

  128. 128.

    catclub

    @Donut:

    I would really like to know if his choice to sing was spontaneous.

    I wondered that too, I wondered if he had a word with the organist beforehand.

    I bet he did not. Just assume, at such an event, that the organist would catch on pretty quick, … and know the tune.

  129. 129.

    JPL

    @shell: Either David Muir or Jonathan Karl said can we forget about the memo that Obama doesn’t talk about race enough now. They were both moved but the eulogy especially Karl. He’ll be his normal self come Monday.

  130. 130.

    Schlemazel

    @? Martin:
    true, can I interest you in a goatsie?

    But it does seem Don Lemon would fit right in at that lemon party. BTW – is it now OK to hint that some guy is gay? I try really hard but like all sinners I know I fail. I just know how insulted she would be to be called “mAnn Coulter” for instance. I knows it wrong and I am going to hell but it is attacking her with the hammer she uses all th time. AS for Don, Is accusing him of being a rentboy not PC? Its not the gay part that is the insult.

  135. 135.

    catclub

    @debbie: I just wish the reporters were quicker to ask:
    So, worse than 9/11? Worse than the Kennedy assassination? Worse than the Vietnam war?

  137. 137.

    SRW1

    @A guy:

    Scalias dissent is the way most Americans feel

    Haven’t yet made it past the ‘denial’ stage, have we?

    It’s gonna get better!

  138. 138.

    Aleta

    @Germy Shoemangler: never knew that it existed before the 70s. thanks, cool song. @piratedan: this funny live 70s version of same guy, same song came up for me.

    Now after I heard that earlier version, the 70s one seems more interesting. And the way he is doing the music became sort of comprehensible in a new way for me. This has been happening to me a lot recently. Either the music is breaking down barriers in my brain, or my brain is just breaking down on its own :).

  139. 139.

    MazeDancer

    @? Martin:

    We also saw pretty much every major corporation put up rainbow colors yesterday on websites, Twitter, Facebook, etc.

    Have to say I was stunned. Cheerios? Love is Love with a Cheeiro dot on the i. Couldn’t believe it.

    And that kind of stuff requires approval way up the line. Did they have it waiting for the decision?

    Mainstream Love is Love. Still can’t actually believe it. Despite knowing there was probably a whole bunch of charts in a whole bunch of meetings showing how there was money in it, was quite uplifted to see all that mainstream equality.

  140. 140.

    boatboy_srq

    @srv: And after FADA, how long until Matrimonial Unnaturalness Disdain Defense Act (MUDDA)?

  141. 141.

    opiejeanne

    @debbie: The recipe made me wonder if it’s something unique to an area with lots of dairy cows. I was surprised there were no eggs, so it’s not a custard.

  144. 144.

    Tommy

    @SiubhanDuinne: I was thinking of what you said and thinking …..

    Not sure there was a single day in my life as a kid where I didn’t have a large glass of milk for every meal. Milk. So we found a way to make a pie out of it. I so wish my grandmother was still with us and she’d make one I could sent to you. It is heaven on a plate!

    The other food, only one as close to emotions, is corn. Corn, corn, corn. I’d give my left arm to take many of you here to “Corn Day.”

    One of my favorite days where my parents live. The huge 4H Center. Can seat maybe 750 people, it is packed wall to wall with a long line. You pay $5 and get a glass of ice tea and then the corn comes out.

    People walking around, dozens of them, with buckets of corn. Bucket after bucket of corn. You eat locally grown corn until you can’t stand.

    It is “Corn Day” gosh darn it!!!!!!!!!!

  145. 145.

    Villago Delenda Est

    @srv:

    For example, the bill would prohibit the IRS from stripping a church of its tax exemption for refusing to officiate same-sex weddings.

    Um, say what? No one has EVER suggested that churches be required to provide space for same sex weddings, or for their pastors to officiate.

    Now, there are good reasons for revoking tax exemptions for churches (I give you Joel Osteen, Franklin Graham, Rick Warren, and every televangelist there is) because it’s part of their grift, but this same sex marriage crap is hooey. Bull shit.

  146. 146.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @Tommy:

    Oh GAWD, I haven’t had smothered pork chops in forever! My grandmother used to make them too.

    Sometimes I really miss being a kid, at dinnertime.

  147. 147.

    Villago Delenda Est

    @catclub: From watching the eulogy, the organist was prepared to start firing up, and seemed to be listening carefully for clues, because a few notes came out at various times that were keyed to Obama’s use of the words.

  149. 149.

    opiejeanne

    @catclub: That organist started noodling while the president was reciting the words of Amazing Grace, earlier.

    I loved the reaction of the pastor behind Obama to his right: joy and surprise. I loved that President Obama bent those notes and sang in the cracks. He sang it the way it should be sung.

  150. 150.

    Villago Delenda Est

    @debbie: If one asserts that “The United States” = “The Republican Party”, then it’s a true statement.

  151. 151.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @Tommy:

    I love corn on the cob. For years I couldn’t really eat it because teeth. But then! about 14 years ago I got dental implants* and now I try to make up for lost time by enjoying CotC whenever I can. Also apples.

    *The very first thing I did once the implant teeth were installed was to go to a bar and order a Bloody Mary. Not because I particularly wanted to drink, but because I wanted to experience the satisfying crunch of a stalk of celery after having gone toothless for 13 months.

  153. 153.

    Aleta

    @Tommy: did she write the recipe down for you? My grandmother always did the custard approach w/o crust. But I don’t like that many eggs at once anymore.

  155. 155.

    Villago Delenda Est

    @opiejeanne: All the pastors sitting behind Obama, in the screen, were great for reaction shots. It’s pretty clear that Obama has down their rhythms and they appreciate, professionally, his delivery.

  157. 157.

    opiejeanne

    @redshirt: and getting better all the time. I have no patience for people who long for the good old days when life was simpler. You know, back before vaccines, modern medicine, and indoor plumbing.

  158. 158.

    opiejeanne

    @MazeDancer: They have had an ad on tv for some time now that showed a mixed race family with a little girl, and the racists went nuts when it first aired. I have a suspicion that they had this ready and waiting in advance.

  159. 159.

    Tommy

    @Aleta: Oh yes I have a large collection of note cards. Mom is slow to give them up but as I get them they are entered. I could be the casserole king if I wanted :).

    @SiubhanDuinne: My dad’s parents were super rich. World travelers. Meals in their house was an affair that went on for hours. I have their China and I think if I sold it I might be able to buy a house. Never used it once.

    My mom’s parents the exact opposite. Salt of the earth people. Bootstraps. They cooked a lot of pork. Often on the bone. They used a fork and knife, but when they got to the bone it was all hands. Pick it up ….

    I can almost recall the first time seeing this. To touch your food with your hands was a foreign concept to me. I started to do the same and thinking, “wow, there is some good meat here.”

    I did the same at my dad’s house and got my hands slapped.

    Well I eat a ton of pork now, about my favorite meat if I will eat meat, and I always finish the meal with my hands. Love you grandmother!

  163. 163.

    Tommy

    Just a shot out to liberals.

    I am finishing up a huge e-Commerce site for a client. One of the last items we needed to figure out was how we’d ship stuff.

    We looked at all the shippers. I am happy to say we are going with the United States Postal Service. Now my client is as raging of a liberal as I am, but he wants to make money. We looked at all the services and honestly the USPS had the best product for the best price. There wasn’t even any real competition. Can you hear this, our postage service rocks!

    When he decided on this I sent him two of these. A stamp he can put on each package that says “Snail mail with love”:

    mattersofdelight.com/collections/paper-trail-stationery/products/snail-mail-love-stamp

  164. 164.

    catclub

    @Villago Delenda Est:

    No one has EVER suggested that churches be required to provide space for same sex weddings, or for their pastors to officiate.

    They are saying it all over the media right now. “Christians will be forced to…. ”

    I see it in as much good faith as FEMA Camps and death panels. But they are certainly saying it.

  165. 165.

    opiejeanne

    @Villago Delenda Est: Yeah, I was watching all of them and listening to the little encouraging noises, “yes yes”, “mmhmm”. I can’t remember what the one was I heard the most, but he was in the groove and so were they and the congregation.

  166. 166.

    Roger Moore

    @opiejeanne:

    I have no patience for people who long for the good old days when life was simpler.

    Most of them are longing for their childhood, or for some imaginary childhood. It’s not because life was simpler back then, but because their understanding was simpler. They’re incapable of recognizing the difference.

  167. 167.

    opiejeanne

    @Roger Moore: Some, yes, but we were visiting Valley Forge and walking through the house there, and a guy actually said to me that he’d like to have lived bcd then when life was so much simpler. He wasn’t saying he wanted to participate in the war in any manner, and after understanding what winter was really like there no sane person today should want to, patriotism aside. I pointed out a couple of things like modern medicine and PAINKILLERS, and he shut up.

  171. 171.

    Tommy

    @catclub: I am watching Obama for the first time speak at Clementa Pinckney’s eulogy. I needed a little time before I could watch it.

    I was kind of stunned to see this was a Methodist church. I was raised in the Methodist church, and I might be an atheist, but if there was a church I’d join it would be the Methodist church. It was such an open and welcoming, non-judgemental place.

    Even now, years after a gay marriage law passed in my state, the sign out front didn’t say “hey gays come in you are welcome,” but about as close as it could get.

    “Come one come all, you are ALL welcome here …..” The message was clear.

  172. 172.

    Tommy

    @SiubhanDuinne: We ran the numbers. I am a numbers guy. The USPS had far better rates and benefits. Wasn’t even close. Oh and I don’t know how UPS or Federal Express would have done things, but I needed access to their API and I got it within seconds from USPS. As professional as any organization I’ve dealt with.

  173. 173.

    opiejeanne

    @Tommy: no, it’s an African Methodist Episcopal church. Not a United Methodist church.

    There was a UMC in San Francisco that had a gospel service. I don’t know what it’s like now but the lead pastor was black. I think he might have been the bishop.

    I was raised in the Methodist church too.

  175. 175.

    Central Planning

    Clearly CNN is not a liberal/progressive/LGBT friendly media outlet. If they were, they would have known what butt plugs and file is look like

  176. 176.

    Keith G

    @Botsplainer:

    Got to be a bit of a killjoy, but I’m disappointed in whoever chose to fly the dildo and buttplugs flag. It cheapens the effort that was made and the risks that were taken.

    Killjoy? Obviously. And add satire resistant as well as geographically challenged.

    The flag was a bit of political satire and defiance yanking the beards of gay killin crazy fucks. An “Up Yours” as it were.

    And this guy was in London, UK. Not Kentucky. Just what effort was he cheapening?

    @Villago Delenda Est:

    the organist was prepared to start firing up, and seemed to be listening carefully for clues, because a few notes came out at various times that were keyed to Obama’s use of the words.

    I have had the pleasure to attend just a few services with congregations like Mother Emanuel when I did advance work in Ohio for the 76 Carter-Mondale campaign. The organists were sharp as nails and grand improvisers.

  177. 177.

    Keith P.

    “CNN is reporting from London that ISIS has apparently obtained weapons of ass destruction. We know where they will use them, but we do not know when. Probably towards the end of the night.”

  179. 179.

    Mnemosyne (tablet)

    @catclub:

    There was a court case a few years ago where a church was renting out their hall for non-church wedding receptions, birthdays, retirement parties, etc. and they refused to rent it to a gay couple. They lost, because they had basically turned themselves into a public accommodation by allowing non-church groups to rent it for non-church activities. But a misremembered version of that story and why the church lost is probably what they’re referring to.

  180. 180.

    fergie

    From the TARDIS DataCore wikki:

    Jiggery Pokery
    Jiggery pokery, according to the Ninth Doctor, was a technical term. He jokingly remarked that he “came first in jiggery pokery.” (TV: The End of the World) The Third Doctor once claimed that he had “some experience” with jiggery pokery. (PROSE: Generation Gap)

    This is said by the Doctor… Doctor Who:)
    I thought I had heard it before lol!
    fergie

  182. 182.

    Applejinx

    “I’m not sure I agree with you a hundred percent on your police work, there, Lou.”

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