The Supreme Court on Tuesday refused to hear a challenge by a pharmacy owner who claimed religious objections to a Washington law requiring pharmacies to stock and dispense Plan B or other emergency contraception.
In 2007, the Washington State Board of Pharmacy adopted rules governing the mandatory stocking and delivery of emergency contraception. The rules do not require any individual pharmacist to dispense medication in conflict with their religious beliefs. Instead, if a pharmacy employs a pharmacist who objects to dispensing emergency contraception for religious reasons, the pharmacy must keep on duty at all times a second pharmacist who does not object to dispensing those drugs.
The Stormans family—who own a local grocery store and pharmacy in Olympia, Washington—challenged the rules in 2012, arguing that the rules required them to violate their religious beliefs. Those beliefs, they said, include a conviction that life begins at conception; therefore, emergency contraception acts as an abortifacient, which they also object to providing.
The medical community does not consider emergency contraception to be an abortifacient.
Glad this nonsense was slapped down. The usual suspects in the opus dei wing wailed about religious freedom, but they can pound sand. You want to run a licensed pharmacy in the US, you gotta sell legally prescribed medicines.
Corner Stone
Great. Now where’s the wildfire at?
oldster
Did she separate them, or just kill them both together?
Felonius Monk
These religious nuts are nuckin’ futz.
@Corner Stone: I’m getting a whiff of garlic and onions. :-)
Gimlet
Too bad Scalia’s not around to torture support from the strict construction of the founding fathers’ remarks on this.
Felonius Monk
@Gimlet:
No, it’s not.
Corner Stone
The idea that these petty little white men in the House think they can take on Hillary Lannister makes me larf.
Fucking morans.
redshirt
That’s a quick meme.
Iowa Old Lady
Love the pic!
I'mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet
Flipping the Senate will help reduce the power on the Forced Birth Party.
According to an e-mail I just got, The DSCC is having a 4x Match of donations now (for the June “deadline”). Team D can’t fight for us without enough resources.
Cheers,
Scott.
Hillary Rettig
Effing Republicans holding Zika financing hostage contingent on defunding Planned Parenthood:
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/29/us/politics/congress-zika-funding.html
Corner Stone
Two years and $7M later. All Gowdy has to say is “We report, you decide.”
redshirt
I got to watch the GoT episode because of travel and it seemed quite awesome. And I’ve not seen an episode since Season 1. Jon Snow is the Lord of Light.
JaneE
Love how these guys second guess real doctors. Especially when emergency contraception does not work if you are already pregnant. It doesn’t always work anyway, especially if you are close to ovulation. That is why it is for emergency use rather than routine contraception.
Baud
@Hillary Rettig: Oh good. I thought they were only holding out for the Confederate flag.
Gimlet
@redshirt:
Not quite sure why they bothered to kill him if they brought him back?
Baud
@Corner Stone:
When you play the game of thrones, you win or you die. There is no middle ground.
NotMax
Had Scalia still been on the bench, his would have been the vote which provided sufficient for the Court to accept the case.
NotMax
@Baud
Made me flash back to this:
“If you go to Z’ha’dum you will die.”
– Ambassador Kosh (Babylon 5)
redshirt
@Baud: Except when you come back from the dead.
Baud
redshirt
@Baud: It’s on the ballot in Maine and Mass too. Both state’s laws are far more liberal than Colorado. For example allowing MJ clubs.
Baud
@redshirt: Like when they brought back Bobby on Dallas by making the previous season a long dream segment.
hovercraft
@NotMax:
Worst wingnut week of the year.
* Drump slumping in multiple polls.
* Texas sham womens protections thrown out.
* Religious freedom killed by the supreme court.
* Last but not least, the death of the Benghazi inquisition.
@Corner Stone:
Your onion and garlic are very powerful, perhaps we should all don them to ensure Hillary wins and we take back the senate.
Scalia is still dead.
Edit And it’s only Tuesday, plenty of time for more calamaty’s
redshirt
@Baud: No, there are zombies and kinda-zombies on Game of Thrones. It’s not a dream but a key to the whole show.
Baud
@redshirt: But of course there are.
redshirt
@Baud: There’s ice and fire zombies, though, so that’s pretty cool.
redshirt
Also, SPOILER ALERT!
This meme is in totally bad taste. The image shows Cersei calmly celebrating the enactment of her terrorist act of blowing up the Church HQ and so many people inside, including many nobles and all the church clergy. At least hundreds died, maybe many more if the explosion and fire spread to other structures.
It’s a celebration of terrorism.
? Martin
@Baud: Well, we’re going to have a gangbuster fucking election…
So, gun control – licensure needed for ammunition sales.
Ban plastic bags
Repeal Prop 227 – so bilingual education will be allowed again
Require use of cøndöms in porn films made in-state
Prohibit state agencies from paying more for drugs than the US V.A. does
Death penalty repeal
Ask legislators to work to repeal Citizens United
and now legalize pot. Oh, and elect the first woman president. 2008 was bittersweet – we voted for Obama but lost Prop 8. We’ll do better this year.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@redshirt: All men must die, but some come back
Baud
@? Martin: Vote early.
? Martin
So why is the GOP trying to reverse a ban on flags celebrating the enemies of the US government in cemeteries? Are they pro-Nazi flags now too?
Villago Delenda Est
One word:
GOOD.
If these “Christians” are so serious about their religion, they need to select their professions with greater care.
Roger Moore
@? Martin:
Unfortunately, that’s actually a vote on whether we should revoke the legislature’s ban on single-use plastic bags, so it’s really a regressive attempt to roll back something good rather than a progressive attempt to enact something good.
Villago Delenda Est
@? Martin: Because they’re the party of Jefferson Davis, not the party of Abraham Lincoln.
maya
Don’t cry for me Sam Alito.
The truth is I never liked you
All through my wild days
My mad existence
I kept my distance
Keep your’s too.
Going to Sam Alito, Sam Alito here I come,
They got some crazy little cases there
And any rainy day now, you’re going to win you one.
Sam Alito, Sam Alito, men have confirmed you,
But you’re so unlike a justice with those misty eyes,
Is it only ’cause they’re jealous that they blamed you?
For that Sam Alito strangeness near your thighs.
? Martin
@Baud: And often.
trollhattan
@redshirt:
And you’re unfamiliar with her character because why?
redshirt
@Villago Delenda Est: It is pretty amazing that our country has completely shifted regional identification since the 1970’s. New England used to be die hard Republican states. Maine and Vermont are the only 2 states, for example, that never voted for FDR.
redshirt
@trollhattan: She’s a monster. But meme’s are lighthearted and comical, and what the joke here is about is the (fictional) deaths of maybe thousands through terrorism. Something our society usually holds as abhorrent.
Westeros Lives Matter
trollhattan
@Roger Moore:
Exactly. The plastic bag makers have fashioned themselves after the tobacco and ammo makers. It’s about Freedom, donchano?
Snarki, child of Loki
Any pharmacist that refuses to dispense morning-after contraception to a rape victim should be charged with “Accessory to Rape, after the fact”. A serious felony.
If they can’t do the time, they shouldn’t do the crime.
Uncle Cosmo
@? Martin: IMHO we ought to start referring to the various flags waved by the insurrectionists as the Stars&barstika. YMMV.
Emma
@redshirt: Ye gods. Tell me this is performance art. It’s fiction, ffs!
maya
@Baud:
No, no , no. It’s more like when Bob Hartley woke up next to Bernie Sanders and realized that his whole Vermont inn proprietor experience was a nightmare.
Roger Moore
@trollhattan:
I think they’re actually even more cynical than that; it’s profitable for them to do it just as a delaying tactic. A quick check says it cost them about $3.1M to qualify the referendum for the ballot. You can bet their profits from continued sales of single use bags while the measure is on hold are more than that, so they’ve come out ahead even if they don’t spend a penny trying to pass the measure and it goes down in flames.
sharl
I see I’m not the only one reminded of the recently departed Justice
VaffanculoScalia. But let us temper our glee at his absence with the fact he was human like all of us, and perhaps some of his {airquote} bad ‘tude {/airquote} was the result of having some bad days, just like the rest of us, as this excerpt from his dissent in Obergefell v. Hodges illustrates. The footnote only serves to make it extra poignant for me.redshirt
@Emma: Fiction reflects and informs society.
SoupCatcher
@Roger Moore:
Let’s hope those executives are the ones floating face down across the closing credits when the dolphins drive us into the sea.
“You’ve got to hand it to those dolphins. They just wanted it more.”
(and, yes, the pedant in me would like to point out that the catalyst was six-pack plastic and not plastic bags… but… same smell)
PIGL
@redshirt: It’s not terrorism if you’re the Queen. Or a government. Or even if you are very very rich. Or white. And here, it’s all of the above.
SectionH
@maya: Internet, you wins it. Luckily I didn’t have a mouthful of cider when I read your comment.
trollhattan
@redshirt:
Better?
hovercraft
I’m not sure I buy this NY Times analysis. But Supreme Women Rock.
RaflW
Amen.
? Martin
@Roger Moore: Ah, got it. I was only going from the single line. Of course that makes tremendously more sense. But I doubt it’ll pass – once habits change, people aren’t usually eager to change them back.
redshirt
@trollhattan: Same idea, right? Hashtag #Terrorism is a useful tactic for achieving your political aims.
trollhattan
@Roger Moore:
Wouldn’t surprise me. A product of the low 2014 turnout is a lowered bar for number of signitures to qualify for this year. Lucky us.
redshirt
@PIGL:
Just a reminder her brother, Jamie, was banished and lost his honor because he killed his King because the King was about to burn everyone he could in King’s Landing. Like Cersei just did.
That last glance they shared as she was seated on the Iron Throne, at long last.
Emma
@redshirt: Really? I’ve seen hundreds of vampire movies and never, ever felt like biting anyone.
redshirt
@Emma: Goth is a vampire based social scene.
Emma
@redshirt: Oy. Performance art. Or massive stick up the arse. Either way, goodnight.
Villago Delenda Est
@redshirt: These are the asshats who paraded her naked in the streets of King’s Landing. They kinda set themselves up for this.
Gin & Tonic
@redshirt: I could have sworn you said you had only seen one episode.
Suzanne
@Villago Delenda Est: Word. If something is against your beliefs, pick a profession in which you don’t have to do it.
A friend of mine is a nurse, and she had a classmate in nursing school who said it was against her faith to see any cocks that were not her husband’s, so she needed to have someone else do catheters or anything on male patients. They rightfully told her to deal or FOAD.
Seth Owen
@redshirt: I agree it is in bad taste, but I think it is mischaracterized as terrorism. I have seen that claimed elsewhere, but I think it is wrong. Cersei’s aim wasn’t to terrorize. Instead it is better understood as a mass assassination with utter disregard to the collateral damage. It is more like the Red Wedding than anything, but even more heinous in scale.
Ramsey Bolton was the closest thing to a terrorist in GOT, although the tit-for-tat mass crucifications in Mereen also had terror overtones.
Suzanne
@Seth Owen: Plus, it’s also a joke based on fiction. So fictional that dragons are involved.
redshirt
@Emma: Life is art, Emma.
redshirt
@Villago Delenda Est: You often espouse violent solutions for political problems. What do you think of blowing up the Sept?
redshirt
@Gin & Tonic: First season and this last episode plus read all the books.
Miss Bianca
I suppose this meme would make some fucking sense to me if I actually gave a flying fuck about watching fucking Game of Thrones, yes?
Emma
@Miss Bianca: Yep. It only made sense to me because of an old, old Survey of American Constitutional Law class, so I went to look for spoilers and sure enough, I had guessed right.
redshirt
@efgoldman: I agree, it just truly is an example of regions swapping political parties because of… reasons….
It’s incredibly dramatic if you were to think of it as a historian. In the span of 30 years our political compass completely flipped colors, though of course the general policies of each region stayed the same.
Villago Delenda Est
@redshirt: They set themselves up. They knew who they were dealing with going into this…a woman who has demonstrated, repeatedly, that she’s utterly ruthless. Violence is how problems were dealt with in the Middle Ages.
Villago Delenda Est
@redshirt: When WE use terror, it’s OK. See Iraq, see Dresden, see Hiroshima.
It’s when the other guys use terror that’s BAD. It’s unfair. It’s cowardly. Like bombing cities from 20,000 feet up isn’t the ultimate in cowardice.
Ultimately, it’s about who wins.
Cersei won. Her enemies had their chance to remove her from the field, and they neglected to do so.
redshirt
@Villago Delenda Est: They deserved it? Because of their lack of Game.
Villago Delenda Est
@redshirt: From Cersei’s perspective, they did deserve it. After what they did to her, they expected her to retire to a nunnery or something?
Lannisters always pay their debts.
redshirt
@Villago Delenda Est: Terrorists often equal another’s freedom fighters.
Sometimes though terrorists are just stone cold bastard psychopaths who want to kill people for “reasons”.
redshirt
@Villago Delenda Est: Yes I suppose by this reasoning, which is sound.
Villago Delenda Est
@redshirt: Recall that the Germans during WWII characterized Allied Bomber crews as “terrorists”.
Omnes Omnibus
@redshirt: Deserve has nothing to do with it.
Villago Delenda Est
@redshirt: A lot of the current crop of Daesh are pretty much that. But they do have a rationalization for their actions. They’re acting in the name of Allah.
Just like Robert Dear was acting in the name of God.
nutella
@Villago Delenda Est:
iLarynx
Alito’s descent citing “sincerely held religious beliefs” is total horse shit. “Sincerely held beliefs” of any sort have no bearing on the law in such a case. There are lots of people where I live whose “sincerely held religious beliefs” have in the past and still to this day, lead them to believe that black Americans should be enslaved. “It says so in the bible!” We have laws against that sort of backwards thinking these days. It’s why we don’t stone blasphemers anymore as well. What’s next? Allowing ambulance drivers to refuse service to injured gay people because they believe their deity would frown on the action? Maybe we should allow pharmacists of Mayan decent to toss their virgin daughters into active volcanoes to please their deity?* “Opus dei” is right on the money. “Theocrats” works as well.
.
.
*Please pardon the mythology used to make a point.
Villago Delenda Est
@nutella: Yup. Pretty much.
Americans love war. When they don’t have to experience themselves with their own precious asses on the line.
redshirt
@Omnes Omnibus: Just using Villago’s words.
Omnes Omnibus
@redshirt: Look, applying 21 century mores to a fictional show set in a fantasy environment based on 15th Century Europe and Near East is nutty at best.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Villago Delenda Est: Hugh Hewitt, whose Wiki bio fails to mention his military service. has a much, but not enough, mocked tweet about how if Trump pledges to name Tom Cotton as Veep and this General Mattis– about whom I know nothing but he’s the latest hero of the Kristol-ites– as SecDef, he’ll beat Clinton. Like I said, I know nothing about Mattis but Cotton is all hot and bothered to re-invade Iraq
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: so I made myself curious and googled Mattis.
The Time writer went from “ascetic intellect” to “hell of a lot of fun to shoot them” without missing a beat. I now have a vague recollection of the whole “warrior monk” thing. Did Cole or one of the other FPers post something here?
Villago Delenda Est
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: If Tom Cotton is eager to end his political career, by all means he should take Drumpf up on such an offer.
I’d still like to know how he managed to leave his first tour of duty in Iraq without getting thrown into a wall locker and tossed down a flight of stairs.
Sean
@redshirt: northern NE
Gretchen
Rod Dreher over at American Conservative is in full meltdown over this and the abortion decision. Christians are under attack! We must fight for religious liberty!
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/christians-can-no-longer-be-pharmacists/
Villago Delenda Est
@Gretchen: Oh, fuck the theofascists with a rusty unlubed chainsaw. I’m tired of their repeated whining that everyone else in this country will not comply fully with their fucked up bronze age belief system.
Geeno
@Baud: Well, story-wise, Jon Snow had to die so his service as Lord Commander on the Wall would be over. Service on the Wall is until death. With that out of the way, he could come back and go on to do other things.
Stan
@Villago Delenda Est: ” Like bombing cities from 20,000 feet up isn’t the ultimate in cowardice.”
Look up the casualty rates for WW2 bomber crews, then maybe come back and retract that please.
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