I stayed up into the wee hours binge-watching the latest season of “Orange Is the New Black,” and now I’m almost as cranky and depressed as an elderly socialist from Vermont who just got an ass-kicking from an erstwhile Goldwater Girl.
I know we must have “Orange” watchers in the group…anyone else all caught up and dying to discuss the show? If so, maybe use Google Translate to render your thoughts in Croatian before posting a comment to prevent spoilers?
Otherwise, open thread — discuss whatever!
Major Major Major Major
You just couldn’t let it go, could you?
I once saw a stand up comedy skit where the pair did a jeopardy skit with audience members. The wrinkle was that they took the original question and kept putting it through google translate in various languages and then back to English. It was very amusing.
I read the book that the series is based on – been thinking it might be cool to watch the series!
Moja supruga i kći gledaju, ali ja ne, tako da nemam ništa značajnije pridonijeti. U stvari, ne gledajte sve popularne emisije tako da sam prilično beskorisni u bilo kojoj društvenoj situaciji.
@Miss Bianca: It’s really well done, IMO — fabulous acting and writing. No idea how closely it tracks with the book, but from what I’ve read, the book is just a jumping off point. It tackles some really sensitive issues (race, rape culture, transphobia, etc.) with uncommon honesty.
Never seen the show. Don’t intend to.
I don’t do prison dramas, comedies or movies.
The morning thread was quite entertaining.
Has Justice Kennedy Left the Conservative Movement?
Wed Jun 29th, 2016 at 09:50:48 AM EST
I love this piece in the Atlantic by Garrett Epps. I particularly love the way he concludes it:
Paul in KY
@? Martin: Oh fuckin no!!! You had to give it away, didn’t you?? You kraztch vegnyep!!!
the Conster, la Citoyenne
I dropped out halfway through S2 – enough lesbian sex for a lifetime, but YMMV. I can’t wait for Rectify to start again – it’s the best show on TV, and it’s the last season. [[sad face]]
@rikyrah: I used to avoid series because I refused to commit to a television show’s time schedule. But streaming technology has turned me into a TV watcher. I never saw a single episode of The West Wing until a few years ago, and now I understand why everyone was raving about it back in the W era.
@the Conster, la Citoyenne:
For those who didn’t know, OITNB star Uzo Aduba is a trained opera singer and does a pretty good job with Broadway classics, too. That’s one of the reasons she still has those not-ready-for-primetime teeth — most professional singers don’t get cosmetic stuff like that fixed because it could affect their voice quality.
Sotomayor Shows Us What it Means to Have a Wise Latina on the Court
by Nancy LeTourneau
June 29, 2016 8:55 AM
With the conclusion of the Supreme Court’s 2015-2016 term, the New York Times has provided a helpful infographic on how things shaped up. The title provides the kicker: When the Eight-Member Supreme Court Avoids Deadlocks, It Leans Left. Essentially what we have is a solid 4-person liberal majority with Justice Kennedy occasionally joining them.
One move that has shown up during this term is that Justice Sonia Sotomayor has now inched into being the most liberal member of the Court. She is now just slightly to the left of Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg (with Justice Elena Kagan right on her heels).
@? Martin: Gesundheit!
Botsplainer, Cryptofascist Tool of the Oppressor Class
The dog yakked all over the house this morning – huge piles. The final yak before I put him out was a lovely shade of golden beige.
I feed him Iams minichunks, and he supplements by stealing a few bites of whatever the cat leaves in his bedtime bowl and, of course, the odd tasty nugget of cat shit covered in urine sprinkles (as a dessert with piquant aftertaste, I guess).
Anyway, I can’t find any recall data on the Iams, and am simply going to replace the bag with maybe a gentle digesting food type.
Kama Martin, mimi si kuangalia show aidha.
Gin & Tonic
@? Martin: I’d never intentionally tried to read Croatian before, but I’m a little surprised at how much of that I got.
Sanders has really gotten to you.
With Blacks, Trump is as Unpopular as Obama is Popular
by Martin Longman
June 29, 2016 12:44 PM
Back in April 2011, Donald Trump went on Talk Radio 1300 in Albany, New York. He told the host that he was mulling a presidential bid, but he was disappointed that the black community was so supportive of the Kenyan Muslim usurper despite the fact that his birth certificate was clearly a fraud. “I have a great relationship with the blacks,” Trump said. “I’ve always had a great relationship with the blacks.”
Contemporary polling in the Empire State showed that 95% of “the blacks” there were behind President Obama, but Trump thought it was more about racial solidarity than job performance.
It’s also interesting that Obama had a 95% job approval rating with New York state blacks in 2011 and that Trump currently has a 94% unfavorable rating from blacks nationally.
the Conster, la Citoyenne
Maybe I should have put that part through the spoiler translator.
I don’t really know how a long standing feeling about a certain genre has anything to do with Sanders.
The Ancient Randonneur
Hvala ti za prevođenje ovo besmislene rečenice.
I’m only on 3 and don’t want to talk about it.
the Conster, la Citoyenne
Like Propane Jane says, does anyone really think that the people who elected Obama, are going to stay home and let Trump take over that same space? It’s not going to happen, no matter what that asshat Sanders chooses to do.
Season 2 was kind of meh, but Season 3 was superb I thought. And super relevant.
Ah…the West Wing.
For its first 4 seasons, pretty much some of the best drama for television ever written. Brilliant.
And, even when it lagged….WW was still better than 70% of the rest of stuff on tv…it just had the misfortune of being compared to those first four years.
I feel the same about the first 3 seasons of Mad Men – absolute perfection…then, 4 (eh), 5 (blech) 6 (shudder), and somewhere in between 6 and 7, the writers found that depth. Season 7 was as close to the first 3 seasons that he could get.
I’ve been ignoring Sanders for a while and have yet to discern the approach of Horrific Consequences. Probably going to stay the course.
People interested in Orange may also be interested in this expose of private prison guard work that Mother Jones just published:
As bad as you think it is – and as bad as Orange depicts it to be – the reality is far worse.
She was also Glenda, the Good Witch , in the LIVE Remake of The Wiz.
@rikyrah: I could totally see her in that role.
I couldn’t get past the sexism of West Wing. I stopped watching it right after the episode where Alison Janney’s character did a press conference minus pants.
After a few seasons, I realized that I didn’t really like Piper, so stopped watching.
Mediate has an article about a trailer that was shown before the Finding Dory movie. The movie is titled Sausage Party and is not safe for work.
What would you do if you were with your children, and that happened?
Oh, wait – I have a GREAT Orange story!
In one episode, one of the inmates refers to Judy King, the southern celebrity chef inmate, as “Betty Cracker.”
At which point my partner – who hears all my Balloon Juice stories – turns to me and says, “Hey, you know her!”
@rikyrah: Ha! I am the same way about prison shows and movies no matter if it’s drama, comedy or whatever. All my friends rave about it and I don’t plan to ever watch.
Warren will NOT be veep candidate. She has a higher calling:
@Hillary Rettig: That is funny.
@Mike J: I liked her before — but this election has made me love her! Go Liz, Go! She had become a one woman (Trump) wrecking machine, a job that she clearly embraces with glee.
Except when Breyer decides that “Show us your papers!” need not be restricted to movies about Nazis. What the fuck was he thinking? Oh, right, as long as the cops are “acting in good faith.” That’s kind of like Hobby Lobby’s “sincerely held religious beliefs,” I guess.
So I guess all the NYC stop-and-frisk stuff was just peachy-keen, after all.
Paul in KY
@Mike J: Little known fact, recording artist Grace Potter is a distant muggle cousin of Harry Potter.
You heard it here first.
Paul in KY
@efgoldman: Mazel Tov!!!
Since my son fixed up my television with a firestick, I have binge watched several series that I had never seen. The Wire and House of Cards were both fantastic, and I am loving Justified. I am going to be sad if I run out of good stuff. These are so much better than watching regular tv.
@Mike J: ha! I would vote for her just based on that comment alone.
@efgoldman: Happy 71st?
Mazel tov! Freuliche Geburtstag!
ETA: I guess you telling us that you’re 5.46 men would have sounded Trump-like. Which would have been Classy and Yuuuge.
@efgoldman: Horrible, reformed Jew here — happy 71st birthday (?). [Math is hard].
ETA: According to MikeJ — my math appears correct, whew!
@Paul in KY:
I hope it’s also the last.
@ruemara: Bad things tend to happen to the DADA teachers, at least at Hogwarts.
@Mike J: And yet she remains second in the odds (+325). Tim Kaine is first (+225). Julian Castro is third (+550). All odds from oddshark.com.
I’m thinking of putting one hundred on Castro. I like the idea of betting on politics; normally I don’t really care about VP picks but this is awesome.
Ive caught a couple of Orange episodes with the Mrs. Its ok but not my cup of tea. Started going through Daredevil S1 on Netflix, enjoying it so far.
Waiting impatiently for the next Season of The Expanse.
I read Orange is the New Black and it’s a pretty amazing picture of huge privilege and how people who have it can be stunningly oblivious . There are some interesting details about prison life, too.
Liz FTW. Who else can pull off pairing Trump and death eaters?
Hilarious series of posts at Talkingpointsmemo blog today on Mr.Orange plastering, apparently, several whole democratic parliaments around the world with fundraising solicitations. Complaints already filed with FEC, but I don’t see it in main news aggregators yet.
What I see in those is more ominous, Trump has moved on to the ‘rich populist savior of the common man from the billionaire class’ strand of his political fugue state. HRC better not answer that with center-right establishment GOP talking points. Hope she pals around a little more with Warren in response.
@jl: Personally I hope she just laughs and walks away. Or starts soliciting ideas for her rotisserie baseball league team from the lectern. I’m pretty sure she couldn’t possibly lose this election if she tried. It is kind of funny in a sad way watching the press try and pretend it isn’t a foregone conclusion though.
@efgoldman: Happy Birthday!
@efgoldman: fair enough — I realize I could have just said Happy Birthday and left out your age — and then I wouldn’t have been forced to admit that my math skills are weak. Sad!
Where’s Perez? Pretty sure he’s my guy, presuming Hils calls me when she’s teetering on the finalist.
@efgoldman: Happy 71st Birthday EFG!
@MomSense: Several years ago (over 10 IIRC) someone with WAY too much time on their hands took the P.G. Wodehouse story The Great Sermon Handicap and translated it into many languages, including Esperanto, Chaucerian English and Yiddish, and then published it in 6 volumes. I think they may also have translated it back in to English from one or more translations. I saw a used copy a few years ago and thought briefly about buying it. I’m something of a completist about the stuff I like, but that was a bit much even for me.
@Botsplainer, Cryptofascist Tool of the Oppressor Class: As the owner of two sensitive tummy pups (Greater Swiss Mountain Dogs) use canned pumpkin, Gas-x (or generic simethicone) and feed a bland diet. No dog food for 24 hours. Then upgrade your feed to something like Fromm adult. It is more expensive but it goes down more easily. Elevate the cat food bowl too.
Botsplainer, Cryptofascist Tool of the Oppressor Class
I hated Piper and that mewling milquetoast fiance from the middle of Season 1 forward. Was really irritated in the way backstories were constructed to put people with obvious state court crimes into a Federal facility. Still stuck with it for a while.
Wound up really losing my passion for the thing with the death of Vee, although I liked the “mean old ladies” angle.
My favorite characters were Suzanne, Captain Mulgrew, Vee, That 70s Girl (mainly for the idea of all the lesbian sex) and the chick with the weird damned accent. The guys in the series were interchangeable.
Laura Ingraham has totally freaked out. She is so anti-equal access bathrooms, she is sure people are going to be wearing adult diapers so they won’t have to enter one. Go ahead Laura, you be first to poop in your pants.
@Trollhattan: Ooooh that’s a good one — 4th (+1200). I like those odds; I could use $1,200.
Trump had another scam edu-venture:
This entire family business is built on fraud. We have a scammer “rich” family like this here- the Carlins- but they aren’t running for President. They stay below the radar! Like sensible crooks!
My wife love OINTB Season 1 then watched a couple of the 2nd and dropped it.
I’ve been told by a couple of people to watch Daredevil, but haven’t yet.
I did finally get around to finishing Jessica Jones which is very good. It had weird trajectory for me – liked Ep 1, then watched 2 & 3 and was meh. But then I decided to go back to it after my brother mentioned he had to get through the first few. Then I watched the rest in a few nights.
Also looking forward to The Expanse Season 2 on Syfy. Been missing good sci-fi shows.
@Hillary Rettig: Yeah, I heard that too. For the record, I am NOTHING like that character!
@rikyrah: I don’t either. Prison, at the very best, as we run it today destroys lives and souls. And that’s the best-case scenario.
It’s usually far worse.
I took a class on psychology and the law in college, taught by someone who actually knew what was up. We got to go to Soledad prison. Simply feeding all those people into a woodchipper would be kinder in the long run, I suspect. Desperate miserable people who then run afoul of the law and find out the hard way that their lives can really get so much worse.
Not a subject for dramatic treatment, or far worse, laughs.
@efgoldman: ad meah v’esrim!
@rikyrah: Agree about “TWW” and “Mad Men.” “Six Feet Under” was another series that was even more wildly inconsistent — great for a few seasons and then faltering. But they managed to redeem it all in the last 10 minutes of the series finale, IMO.
@efgoldman: I was guessing birthday, wasnt even going to try to guess your age! But many, many happy returns!
@nutella: heh heh.
“Sleaze America” is the best.
@bemused: Here’s food for some fun thought. Which will be the more fun election night watching on Fox — the Romney meltdown where they were sure they were going to win and then you got to watch it slowly dawn on them, or this year where they will know ahead of time they’re going to get killed and you get to watch them get rolled like no other candidate has been rolled before?
While I agree and earlier in the thread, declared that I too do not what prison movies or shows — I did recently watch the documentary “The Fear of 13” on Netflix and it was incredible. I can’t recommend it enough.
Iowa Old Lady
@bemused: She needs to get out more. I first ran into unisex bathrooms (not counting the ones in every house I ever went into) when I traveled in Europe during the summer of 1970. Nothing terrifying happened.
@CONGRATULATIONS!: FWIW, the last couple of seasons of OITNB absolutely hammer the for-profit prison concept, dramatizing how money-grubbing corporate worms casually destroy lives to save a buck and enrich their greedhead overlords. Not saying you should watch if prison dramas aren’t your thing; just pointing out that the show’s not exploiting the situation for cheap laffs or drama.
@Botsplainer, Cryptofascist Tool of the Oppressor Class:
Not only does my dog try to kill me on a regular basis, but for a pound dog she has expensive taste. Taste of the Wild Bison/Venison kibble with a bit of roasted lamb wet food mixed in. I ran out and tried to feed her Iams. Let’s just say it was ugly and impossible to pick up. So we are back to the ridiculously expensive food but she is much happier and healthier.
@The Ancient Randonneur: This. +100.
@efgoldman: Happy Birthday, kinda-old dude !
That’s a meme I hadn’t thought of in a while.
@efgoldman: Happy fountain pen day!
I think Liz Warren has raised Hillary’s game by demonstrating that it’s OK to loosen up a little. Hillz had a huge, genuine smile on her face that I don’t think I’ve ever seen from her – relaxed and happy. She still had it today even without Liz.
YMMV indeed. lawnmower to space shuttle.
Heh. Given the statement from the theater, it sounds like Disney’s distribution office came down on them like the wrath of God. I bet their ears are still ringing.
@FlyingToaster: meme?!? Ha! I believe that was a hoary old saw back when my stepdad, who taught it to me, was first able to apply it to himself in the late Roosevelt administration. ;)
@Mike J: Thanks for doing the math – 65 didn’t look right!
Mazel tov EF!
Yeah, Piper got less interesting as the series progressed. Fortunately, there is less focus on Piper as the series goes on and more focus on other prisoners and guards who tend to have more interesting stories.
@TOP123: Like you, my dad got to that age during the 1st Roosevelt admin, and joined up during his 3rd (Army Air Corp).
Fortunately, he didn’t make his kids go through it, though we went to all our friends and learned all the jokes.
@efgoldman: Happy Birthday.
Orange hooked me hard during the first season. Lost me completely in season 2.
@Kay: Thanks. I knew that Trump Institute was the scam Mr. Orange went with to replace his bogus university scam. I didn’t know it plagiarized reams of stuff verbatim from other courses and textbooks. Interesting, but maybe should have been expected.
@FlyingToaster:Haha, i can relate, though the relevant service was Navy and the war the Korean Emergency.
Which he tended to cynically describe as a designation designed to ding everyone out of their wartime pay rate.
Tissue Thin Pseudonym
@MomSense: My cats are the exact opposite. Whenever I try to give them the expensive food, I end up having to scrape half of it out of their bowls before it collects mold. Unfortunately, this is also proving true of the prescription kidney diet food that two of them should really be eating at this point.
@? Martin: Možete govoriti o Balon sok gotovo bilo gdje idete.
@Kay: I dunno. If The Great Orange Winner was the one who personally clicked the button to respond to the Craigslist ad, she could be considered ‘hand picked’. Maybe all these stories against Mr. Trump are just cheap smears? Designed to prevent him from making America great and independent again.
Trump’s new fundraising approach is to get the $ from the Iceland, Australian, Canadian and sundry other parliaments. How effing disinterested and high minded is that? Hope he includes some other Nordic, and Estonian parliamentary lists, they have some very good public finance expertise, now that Trump is for the little man. Though I wonder if that schtick will leak through to his billionaire friendly tax plan?
Are we talking about the TV series or the Trump Campaign?
I guess politics (like beauty) really is in the eye of the beholder.
I saw this on boingboing.net:
Iowa Old Lady
@germy: All I can say is these guys do not feel vulnerable to whatever Trump would dish out. Their disdain for Clinton reeks of privilege.
@Tissue Thin Pseudonym:
That’s been my experience as well. I proudly bring home the highly-rated, high protein all natural cat food, and she does the “this is shit” pantomime. (Scratches around the food dish as if she were in her litter box).
So I end up opening a can of the feast of the fancy (probably too much salt and not enough protein). And she gobbles it and yells for more.
The Berniacs who infest my FB feed are going berserk over a handful of Dem primary wins by Bernie-endorsed candidates.
Let’s be clear at the outset: it is totally famtastic that trans people feel comfortable in the Democratic party, and I’m happy that the two Misties won. However, one is running for the Senate in Utah against Mike Lee, and the other is running for the House in a Colorado Springs area district that Cook rates R+16. Hard to imagine good outcomes here.
And then there is Zephyr Teachout, carpetbagging her way up the Hudson to NY-19 …
@Iowa Old Lady: They’re upper-class (although they’d never admit it) white guys with no children. It’s a chess game to them.
They’ll inherit a shit-load of money from their parents, no matter who wins the white house.
Someone on another blog said it was a not-so-subtle way to make an 8 person court ‘ normal’, thus no need to point out the absolute obstruction on the GOP.
@burnspbesq: I don’t know much about Teachout. She’s not a force for good in NY? All I know is she made Cuomo sweat a little, which is a good thing in my book…
If you have the Firestick, does this mean you have Amazon Prime and Netflix?
If you have Amazon Prime, you can watch Downtown Abbey.
If you have Netflix, try The Fall, Sherlock, Luther, among others.
@Iowa Old Lady: “Cory Efram Doctorow (/ˈkɒri ˈdɒktəroʊ/; born July 17, 1971) is a Canadian-British blogger, journalist, and science fiction author”
@Calouste: Didn’t those boingboing people make a big payday after selling a startup? I’m fuzzy on the details…
Wish us luck, we just completed the reverse mortgage process!
@rikyrah: Happy Valley
The Ads write themselves.
@germy: I don’t think having children matters in this regard, but indeed every pro-Sanders screed I have seen bandied around was written by a white guy who had been to an Ivy League or thereabouts university.
I didn’t know i shared a birthday with him.
Second that rec — all three are excellent shows.
@raven: Love “Happy Valley” too!
My father was a POW during WWII, captured by the Nazis.
It fucked him up for life, and by extension, it fucked up our family.
I never watch Hogan’s Heroes.
She’s definitely a progressive, but she made a lot of enemies within the NY Dem Party with the way she conducted herself in her primary run against Cuomo. She’s going to be facing a lot of disadvantages in running against a well-funded R in a R+3 district.
@Calouste: My children are entering the workforce, and already they have horror stories to share. I worry about their future.
Mike in NC
Trump University, Trump Institute. What’s his next pseudo-educational scam: Trump Medical School, Trump Auto Body Repair, Trump Nails, or Trump Funeral Parlor?
@burnspbesq: If Bernie has nothing to do, maybe he should GOTV.
@Iowa Old Lady:
That was my thought too. She’s never seen a unisex bathroom before?
How far is Pulse from the Orange County convention center?
I’m going to be over at the convention center tomorrow for a Florida Associations of Counties conference for the morning, and I figured I might want to swing by to pay respects.
Mike in NC
Blair Brown is a fine addition to the new season of Orange, playing a southern celebrity chef loosely based on Paula Deen.
@Mike in NC: Mad Donnie Used Car Lot and BBQ?
@germy: She’s phenomenal. She’s a very good progressive and (pet cause alert!) gets very good ratings from my fellow education unions in New York. Additionally she’s found a way to bring a progressive message to local farms, which I think is an underserved population in the democratic message. We’d do well to try her message in the midwest, for instance.
@Tissue Thin Pseudonym:
My cats loved the “kitty crack” and would never touch the good food. I hope your kitty adjusts to the prescription diet.
@burnspbesq: Oh, I met the one running in Doug Lamborns district when I was at the CO state convention. Bernie Sis. All about trashing the corrupt DNC and the superdelegate system. Good luck to her and all that, but… : /
@burnspbesq: You say that first sentence like it’s a bad thing.
@raven: I hope that works well for you!
Botsplainer, Neoliberal Corporatist Shill
She’s got a weird name, is hyperleft, and has a history of opposing actual democrats. Plus Sanders supports her, which means she needs kneecapping like Nancy Kerrigan.
I’m not happy unless some fucking Mumia loving progressive is getting kicked in the teeth…
I always tried to feed our girl the healthy, high-protein stuff, but she insists on the feast of the fancy. I felt so guilty about that, but limited her to “paté” which doesn’t have all that starchy gravy. One day the vet made a housecall, saw the cans and admitted it’s what she feeds her cat.
Also, when I research some of the so-called healthy brands, I see quite a few of them were under recall at one time or another.
I knew what you meant, and tried to work the math out without a calculator.
So Happy 137th, efg!!
PS: gave in and used the machine: Mazel Tov! In any case….
Last Thursday, the Obama Administration selected sixty-seven colleges and universities across twenty-seven states to participate in the Second Chance Pell Pilot Program, which aims to “create a fairer, more effective criminal justice system, reduce recidivism, and combat the impact of mass incarceration on communities.” The new initiative could make Pell Grants available to as many as twelve thousand people behind bars.
… the executive action by the Obama Administration is a progressive step forward on correctional education, especially given that legislation like the Restoring Education and Learning (real) Act—which would eliminate the provision in the crime bill barring prisoners in state or federal institutions from Pell Grant eligibility—remains stalled in Congress.
@Miss Bianca: So do we, we’re prime candidates with no kids, just did a big renovation and like our neighborhood and community. We’d never really heard about them except those bullshit Fred Thompson ads.
@Botsplainer, Neoliberal Corporatist Shill: Strangely all I can envision is Tanya Harding climbing into Andrew Cuomo’s limo as they both cackle and drive away…
@efgoldman: Happy birthday?
@rikyrah: Yes, I have Amazon Prime, Netflix and Hulu – Jackpot! And in August, when my Uverse contract is up, I will cut the cable cord and go with Sling for my sports, which is the only thing I still want to watch on cable. Thanks for the recommendations for shows to watch. I will make a note of those series, none of which I have seen.
Since this is an open thread, can I scream now?
What is wrong with people’s brains? So Michelle Obama went to Morocco and had iftar dinner with the wife of the King of Morocco. What the bloody hell was she supposed to do, refuse to eat and say the rosary? And she wore long sleeves!
@raven: Good for hear. I’m glad you found something that worked for you !
R.I.P. Scotty Moore.
Subban to Nashville for Shea Weber! No report of riots on St Cat St. yet.
Boy, does 538 put Hillary’s chances from 75 – 80% to win and with 353 electoral votes. The swing states just aren’t as close as any previous election. Yes, things will change and the race can and must tighten but she is the hands down favorite no question. It is her’s to lose.
And Kain still appears to be the most likely VP choice …
@efgoldman: Happy b-day!
@Prescott Cactus: We took a line of credit and the principle actually grows! Up until two years ago only a person over 62 could take one and, when they died, the surviving spouse was SOL and could lose the house. The feds changed that.
@Betty Cracker: Good to know!
Iowa Old Lady
Wasn’t Clinton’s interview with the FBI supposed to take place this month? Is it scheduled? I want them to get on with things so one line of attack is at least blunted.
@Emma: I don’t understand. What’s iftar?
Anyone read the article in WaPo that this LGM post makes fun of?
@negative 1: the feast after Ramadan.
Tissue Thin Pseudonym
@p.a.: That’s . . . a bizarre trade. After this coming season, Weber’s cap hit is going to be larger than his actual salary, which is the kind of player you’d think that cash-strapped Nashville would want to keep. Montreal, on the other hand, is the kind of team that would spend above the cap if they could, so you’d think that want to trade for players whose contracts are backloaded, and so have a cap hit lower than what you’re paying them.
Talent-wise, it seems close to a push.
Here’s another take on that theme, this time at The Atlantic.
In this one, it’s Trump who’s the table-flipper’s choice, not Bernie. Whichever, the fundamental point is accurate; many people see the moderate Democratic and moderate Republican candidates as elitists who won’t cooperate and are happy to perpetuate an unfair system. That unfairness is fueling the Bernie backers, the far-right no compromise types, and Trump supporters, as well as the Brexit voters.
Is the unfairness real? You see, here and elsewhere, comments that the people complaining are just dethroned elites (males, whites) now dealing with a fair system. But the reality is that all the economic gains of the last 30 years have been hoovered up by the top 15+%, almost all going to the top 1%. Our system no longer deals almost everyone a share of the bounty, instead it goes almost entirely to the corporate and political elites.
Some of the people complaining believe that getting dethroned is their problem, which does confuse things. It shouldn’t be a surprise that some of the formerly privileged confuse correlation with causation, and blame their loss of privilege for their current problems. Just because they’re wrong about its source doesn’t make their pain less real.
Ordinary moderate Democrats and Republicans also come across as elitists who won’t cooperate and are content to perpetuate the unfair system; the comments to ‘suck it up’, the facile dismissal of the concerns and problems, the genuine lack of sympathy. It shows up here in the disdainful comments about Bernie supporters — people who should become allies and would if you centrist Clintonites weren’t being smug idiots.
This election is yours to lose. Brexit is a canary, pay attention.
@Iowa Old Lady: Frankly, who cares? As a right-wing ex-prosecutor said on FOX NEWS – Hillary didn’t do anything criminal with the e-mail stuff – period; he’d never touch this case since even an indictment is impossible.
Alvin Toffler, author of Future Shock, has died at age 87.
Saw that book all over the place. Did any of you ever read it?
Here’s a pretty good obit from the NY Times.
Iowa Old Lady
@Cermet: Chuck Todd even said all their experts said there was nothing criminal there. I just want it off the table.
Though I suppose, given the example of Benghazi, it will never be off the table.
@efgoldman: Congrats ! I’ll be 4.5 Sharpie’s markers this Fall.
@raven: That change means a lot !
@Prescott Cactus: Yea, a great deal. You have to pay PMI and taxes and that’s it.
@germy: I feed all of my rescues Purina Chow (whichever is appropriate for the species). Never recalled, never had tainting scares, seems to agree with all of the animals I’ve had, and lots have lived beyond their expected life spans. Only dry food too, especially for the cats, that limits tooth and gum issues. Wet food is for hiding medicine in.
I’m not at all a believer in the current trend of blaming the food first when a pet medical condition pops up. I had people solemnly swear that one dog’s skin problem was food allergies. It was mange.
This is classic ad hominem. After all, most of the pro-Clinton screeds you see were also written by whites who’ve gone to Ivy League or thereabouts schools.
@germy: the nightly dinner after sundown, to be specific. Eid al Fitr is the big feast that ends the Ramadan month, this year on July 5.
@p.a.: @p.a.: Subban got left off Team Canada for this Fall’s World Cup.
Not having a good month, is he ?
@germy: So what’s the problem? That she ate dinner? I have to admit I didn’t even hear about this, so are you sure it’s not an infection localized to red areas?
Hvala, I love “Balon sok”!
@Elizabelle: Bought it and skimmed it when it was a new thing. I have it at home somewhere with its bright orange cover.
I was skeptical at the time and time has proven him too pessimistic about the ability of humans to adapt to new inventions. Even us older humans (most of us) were fine transitioning to cell phones, email, microwave ovens, the internet, social media, and the complete revolution in how entertainment of all forms is delivered to us (which, more than anything, makes me frequency remark that “we are living in science fiction times”).
What’s kind of amusing is to recall the mood of the 1960s “atomic age” / “space age”. We all thought we were ALREADY living like the Jetsons and we were impossibly modern, and our flying cars were just around the corner. Every other ad described its product as “space age fabric” or “atomic age cleaning power”.
I used to marvel at the thought of people who had seen the introduction of the automobile or the home telephone or the television. But when I write down the list of things which have appeared in my life time and been absorbed seamlessly into our lives, I realize maybe it wasn’t such a revolutionary change in their lives either.
@Daulnay: The important thing left out of that article is that most polls had the Brexit vote as ‘too close to call’ the night before. Most polls have the presidential contest as ‘too laughable to bother with’ right now, with Trump trending down.
@Tissue Thin Pseudonym: Subban criticized the organization. The team that traded Roy for complaining did the same to Subban. Don’t know the contract implications, both are very talented, but Subban is 4 years younger (and Weber has lots of wear on the tread) and Subban just drives opponents nuts. Habs in effect picked their half-assed coach over PK Subban.
Time will tell…
@Daulnay: Any critique that implicates both parties in exploding wealth inequality is bullshit. In fact, it is the Republican Party that has relentlessly tried to criminalize tax collection and delegitimize the very notion of government. Are the Dems perfect? Nope! But “both sides” is bull-fucking-shit, and anyone who peddles that load of flaming crap deserves disdain.
@Emma: What conclusion exactly is their objection? That it was a Muslim ritual? (or do they suspect a satanic initiation rite and they do not want her as a member of their group)?
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@negative 1: True, I haven’t seen a mainstream candidate this ridiculous in my life, tho Dan Quayle came close.
Both sides don’t do it; the Republicans, nearly all of them, and the 3rd Way neo-liberal moderate Democrats do it. Together. That’s where Hilary is vulnerable as a candidate, like it or not.
@Daulnay: Yeah, and if Brexit is the canary, the gas that’s threatening to swamp us is *precisely* the sort of “moderates are elitists! bullshit that is going to end up killing off the UK. For everyone gleeful at the prospect of fat cats losing their shirts as the pound plummets, and every Little Englander who “wants my country back!”, there are a lot of ordinary men and women absolutely petrified and distraught. As one of my British friends said, “good luck with fighting Trump!”
@Daulnay: How’s the weather in 1992? A bit cooler? If you ever make it back to 2016, can you bring me a Radiohead tour t-shirt? Kthxbai!
Got no beef with progressives per se. I don’t like crackpot theories that ignore history and economics, I don’t like people who can’t count to 218, and I don’t like people who espouse policy ideas that depend for their success on the sudden appearance of unicorns that piss Pilsner Urquell and shit New York Super Fudge Chunk.
@efgoldman: Happy B Day!
You will always be a little youngster, no matter how many fountain pens you accrue.
@burnspbesq: No, I meant more that she got crossways of Cuomo and Cohorts. He’s a bad person. He may be a democrat, but that doesn’t make him less bad. The party would be better off without him, as at this point people only hear the name and they assume the news is about an ongoing corruption probe.
Oh lord, yes. I probably still have a paperback copy kicking around somewhere. It was assigned reading in one of my university classes (psych or soc, can’t remember), and I vaguely recall writing a review/summary/essay thing on it. A very big deal in the ’70s.
@gindy51: @Botsplainer, Cryptofascist Tool of the Oppressor Class: Second the Fromm recommendation.
The thing about the paperback press run of Future Shock is that it was the first big title to have differently-colored covers. It’s pretty commonplace today for books and magazines to have a variety of covers, but in 1970 or thereabouts it was a brand-new thing, and truly shocking to see on the book racks — your orange, but also bright yellow, electric blue, acid green, and neon red.
Edit: So by shocking the consumer/reader with different colors on the cover, it hauled us into the future. It was a brilliant, brilliant marketing ploy.
@Aleta: Sorry it took so long. Had a drop-it-and-run emergency. It implied that she was “breaking fast”. In other words, that she’s a Muslim.
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Fountain Pen Day is a Thing?!
I have had a Parker, a Waterman Phileas, two Namiki Vanishing Points, a Cross, and a Chinese pen promised to be “as good as many more expensive pens” (no, it wasn’t).
I love my Vanishing Points best of all. They’re my daily pens.
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@SFAW: He would be damned lucky to have her as a relative. Also, I guess he could ardavra kedavra a nasty record producer, if needed.
Paul in KY
@Kay: That should make it into a campaign commercial.
Paul in KY
@negative 1: I’m hoping this year will be even funnerer.
Paul in KY
@germy: I’d go to any of those I could. Hear they are real blowouts.
Paul in KY
@Betty Cracker: I’m going to see Radiohead at Lolla. They damn well better play ‘Creep’. That’s all I have to say on that.