NY Times: "The campaign also had discussed the idea of having fireworks inside the arena, but that proved unworkable."
— Oliver Darcy (@oliverdarcy) July 1, 2016
It’d be even more fun if this maniac didn’t stand approximately a 27% chance of actually being elected President, but then, a little adrenaline should be that much more incentive to GOTV…
What not-inside-the-Quicken-Loans-Arena fireworks are on the agenda as we start the holiday weekend?
If the Trump campaign is like Brexit, if he loses does that mean the entire GOP and RNC leadership will resign?
— Trip Gabriel (@tripgabriel) June 27, 2016
Think I'm starting to see where this whole thing is headed. #Trump #BorisJohnson #PlanetOfTheWorstLeadersEver pic.twitter.com/4l1oY3Fanq
— Dan Piraro (@pirarobizarro) June 30, 2016
the Conster, la Citoyenne
So done with Bernie and Trump. Both of them are dumpster fires.
RepubAnon
Well, I guess this explains why Dr Zaius stopped blogging…
Baud
@the Conster, la Citoyenne: I really don’t see Obama making a rash decision like that.
Damned at Random
I expect topless showgirls and jugglers at the Republican Convention. Hope they don’t disappoint
Baud
Gives new meaning to Die in a Fire.
Zinsky
Doing absolutely nothing, and loving it. Three days off and no neighbors – everyone in Minnesota is headed to the lakes up north and stunningly beautiful 80 degree days and 50 degree nights. Pure. Heaven.
Raven
We’re on a ridge overlooking downtown since these dopes decided to do fireworks tonight. I have the camera set up so we’ll see what we get.
Baud
@Damned at Random:
Jugs and Jugglers! Better than Cirque de Soleil.
Schlemazel Khan
@Zinsky:
Pasta but it has been a beautify few days this week! Reminds me why I love living here
Emma
@Baud: Not rash at all. Obama had no need to listen to this alter cocker (Thanks, Aimai!) at all. But he went out of his way to talk to him, and instead of a dialogue he gets a lecture? Sometimes the best rebuke is a metaphorical fist to the kishkes.
PaulWartenberg2016
Stop making jokes about orangutans. One of them escaped from the Busch Gardens zoo in Tampa this afternoon.
FREEDOM! FREEDOM FOR OUR HAIRY BROTHERS WHO WILL GAIN SUPERIOR INTELLIGENCE IN THE TWISTED FUTURE OF CHARLTON HESTON!!!
SiubhanDuinne
Okay, I’m as willing to believe the most outrageous stuff about Drumpf as anyone, but fuck, no.
I’m sorry, I can’t, I just simply cannot.
PaulWartenberg2016
@Damned at Random:
They could have had that last convention in Tampa – dear God, that was already 4 years ago? – but thanks to Mitt being in attendance, it was a no-go.
Baud
@Emma: You think Obama decided last minute to endorse Hillary when he did? That doesn’t seem like him at all.
WaterGirl
@Baud: You beat me by 5 minutes!
MomSense
Great British Baking Show is on now!
redshirt
@RepubAnon: Rock me Dr. Zaius.
Malaclypse
Totally unfair to Zaius, who was a statesmonkey compared to those two.
ljt
@MomSense: What channel??
Emma
@Baud: No, I meant it was all ready to go and Obama moved the timetable up. I remember at the time his pro-Hillz announcement appeared that someone mentioned it looked like he was wearing the same tie and jacket he’d worn two days before.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@the Conster, la Citoyenne: ugh, I wish Obama had just walked out
redshirt
@Malaclypse: Yeah, he was the voice of logic and reason among the apes.
Baud
@Emma: I’d still like to see evidence. I expect he always intended to endorse Hillary when he did, or at least right after he met with Bernie. If he did move the timetable up, I doubt it was in response to what Bernie said to him at the meeting.
the Conster, la Citoyenne
@Baud:
No, he was always going to endorse, but gave Bernie an opening to concede. He decided to announce it when he did right after speaking to Bernie after Bernie being a scoldy ass, to piss him off.
Baud
@the Conster, la Citoyenne: What’s the proof? What intel does this Holder guy have?
Adam L Silverman
@Damned at Random: As long as the VP finalist portion of the show does NOT have a swimsuit competition!!!!
Emma
@Baud: So he’s not entitled even to one moment of pique after being lectured by Bernie? The man has a great deal of control, but he’s not inhuman!
You’re probably right. He’s a much better person than I am.
inventor
@Malaclypse: A Statesape, dammit, APE!
RobertDSC-iPhone 6
I wish the President or someone big would crack on BS for no tax returns or FEC disclosures. That motherfucker needs to be stepped on, *hard*.
The Thin Black Duke
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Still, this incident proves once again that Bernie’s worse enemy is, well, Bernie.
Adam L Silverman
@PaulWartenberg2016: That was right by the Stanleyville Smokehouse barbecue. Which, I have to say, is nothing like the excellent barbecue they actually make and serve in the actual Kenya. Also, I worked on the boat ride, when it still existed, one summer during high school.
Baud
@Emma: Yeah, if it’s true, I’d give it to him. He’s earned it. It just doesn’t seem like him to me.
PaulWartenberg2016
Any plans for the 4th of July outside of weeping over the possible fate of all humanity?
JPL
@Damned at Random: As long as he doesn’t have the freedom girls, I’m fine with it. Actually, I’m just not going to watch.
Adam L Silverman
@redshirt: I think you want this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUkYHcK3FfY
Baud
@JPL: Oh hell. I’m thinking of taking off work to watch. There’ll never be anything else like that in our lifetimes.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@The Thin Black Duke: I’m seeing a lot of tweets from the Village Junior League (Yglesias, Barro, a couple others) congratulating Bernie on winning so many concessions on the platform. I’ll reserve my applause for when he gets some legislation voted on.
PaulWartenberg2016
@Adam L Silverman:
Yeah, well, American tourist trap food is never as flavorful as the original stuff.
It’s a pity they captured him. He could have worked as a greeter at the train station.
Iowa Old Lady
I see there’s some evidence that THC helps stave off Alzheimer’s. Both my parents had it, and I live in fear it’s coming for me.
Hm. So….projecting into the future, assume a 115 lb little old lady who’s never used it before. Would she have to smoke it or eat it? How much are we talking about?
Asking for a friend.
Baud
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: I don’t mind those. It’ll make it seem all the more douchy if he doesn’t endorse.
Adam L Silverman
@PaulWartenberg2016: I love orangutans.
Doug R
@Iowa Old Lady: My wife recommends a vaporizer. I would suggest a road trip to Colorado to check out edibles.
the Conster, la Citoyenne
@Iowa Old Lady:
A friend would recommend edibles.
dogwood
I was actually surprised that the Obama endorcement came within minutes of Sanders leaving the WH. I assumed that the President would hold off until the DC primary ended a day or so later. So this sounds plausible to me. If Bernie really did lecture him, then it wouldn’t be out of character for Obama to write him off and move on.
hueyplong
The irritated reactions to Bernie are starting to seem similar to the reaction to board trolls. Deny him oxygen. Put him on ignore. He doesn’t really matter anymore.
eclare
@Raven: When did people decide to do fireworks all other nights? I heard some last night. Just asking because I have two dogs who don’t like them, and I’m prepared for the fourth, but not for five whole nights.
Ruckus
@Iowa Old Lady:
Tell your friend to take it easy starting off. If
youthey haven’t tried it at all or not since being somewhat younger, I hear that potency has gone up. My experience was literally several decades ago and I’m going to need a lot more incentive than I currently have to start back up, for any reason.Iowa Old Lady
@Doug R: @the Conster, la Citoyenne: I’ll pass this helpful information on. Perhaps TaMara can do a recipe exchange.
Iowa Old Lady
@Ruckus: I hear ya. Thanks for the warning.
gogol's wife
@eclare:
I hate the Fourth of July. Yeah, it used to be just the Fourth of July. Now it’s the whole weekend (plus most other summer weekends). And I’m expecting my neighbor with the Trump sign in his yard to do a “professional” version in his backyard, like last year.
redshirt
@Iowa Old Lady: Edibles, but you have to be very cautious about amounts. For you, a brownie should take an hour to eat. So eat like a quarter, wait 15 minutes, eat another quarter, wait 30 minutes, eat another quarter, wait 30 minutes, eat the last quarter.
Drink water, be in a safe place, and don’t be ashamed to simply go to sleep if you feel like it.
Smoking weed in the short term is much safer. Take a puff or two and then enjoy the ride.
Jeffro
@Zinsky:
We are supposed to have similar weather in Rehoboth for most of next week (maybe just a few degrees higher on each end) so fingers crossed there.
Somewhat related: I spent yesterday and today taking my MT relatives around to & through the White House and Capitol. (That’s about all we got through each day, believe it or not.) I had no idea that the White House Visitor Center (at 1450 Pennsylvania Ave) could be so informational, inspiring, and entertaining…if you have kids, you HAVE to take them there, help them do the activities, and then watch as they get their badges and are sworn in as Park Rangers!
Likewise, w/ the Capitol, I had set up the ‘usual’ movie & tour in advance, but had no idea that it would be so relatively easy to get passes to the House and Senate galleries*, or how utterly beautiful the Library of Congress is – I had never been there myself. (And I really have no excuse, I’ve been here in NoVA for half my life on and off). So while I was marveling in it all, our visitors were REALLY loving the tours and were just blown away.
*On a funny and odd note: while we were sitting in the House gallery, taking it all in and explaining to the kids that they’d see this ‘room’ again on TV at the next State of the Union, we heard a British-accented “hello – you all are Americans, right?” from behind us. There was a family of four visiting from England and the parents explained to us that they were completely vexed as to how this whole presidential election thing worked – how was it that America could elect a president who wasn’t an esteemed legislator from the ruling party? Or possibly not even a legislator…possibly NEVER even in government before? I’ll spare you all the lengths we went to trying to explain it (skipped the Electoral College entirely – not bothering to explain that one even to a fellow American in under an hour) but once we told them that the presidential election was in a sense entirely independent of the other races on the November ballot, they started to get it. I think.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
“those” being the platform planks? I certainly don’t mind them, I just think his energy would be better spent selling those Ideas, and his new party, in some of those purple states– Iowa, New Hampshire– where he racked up so many numbers and got people so excited
Anne Laurie
@Damned at Random:
Classic line from Doonesbury, during the Watergate hearings: “Meanwhile, out in the street, dancing bears and jugglers have become a common sight.”
I’m wondering about NRA-friendly feats of marksmanship — maybe a short-fingered-hand-picked team of retired military members can shoot Gallagher’s watermelons for a warm-up act?
Iowa Old Lady
@redshirt: Timing is tricky here. One would want to wait until self-medication was necessary, but not wait so long that the marbles had all fallen out.
eclare
@Adam L Silverman: And y’all spell it correctly! Bonus! It annoys me to no end with the non-existent “G” on the end, but I keep that to myself.
JPL
@redshirt: You are asking someone to eat one brownie over a hour.
You do understand that if it tastes like a brownie, that’s a difficult task.
SiubhanDuinne
@PaulWartenberg2016:
For six years (a long time ago), I lived less than two miles from Busch Gardens in Tampa. It is so easy to picture that orangutan whizzing down 56th Street to Temple Terrace and hoisting his way up on our apartment balcony.
lamh36
WTF E tv! you put on Dirty Dancing and then put commercials in the middle of a song or scene…SERIOUSLY WTF!!!!!
Wait a freakin’ minute! E! Television shows all kinds of crappy reality shows, but they won’t show the “sensual” scenes on Dirty Dancing!
smh…but oh..let’s look at Kardashian nip again!
Fuq u E! and your censorship of Dirty Dancing, of all movies…smh. I’ma just go watch my DVD. #DontDisprespectTheSwazye
Anne Laurie
@redshirt: With Donald and Boris, it’s aspirational to be as smart as an evolved orangutan.
Everyone needs a dream a little higher than their grasp!
redshirt
@Iowa Old Lady: This year’s elections will legalize recreational marijuana in several more states including California. Old taboos are quickly falling away. It’s just a plant. It’s not addictive. You can’t die from it. If you think it will help you with chronic pain, you should seek it out as per the laws of your state. Or neighboring states.
the Conster, la Citoyenne
@dogwood:
Yup. The timing said to me that either Bernie agreed to concede right away, or was his usual PITA self, and Obama was done playing that game with him. It was a shit or get off the pot moment, and Obama is not interested in toilet training Bernie fucking Sanders.
Immanentize
@redshirt: NOT her — her friend!!!
eclare
@SiubhanDuinne: They are incredibly intelligent. I was a docent at the zoo in Atlanta, and we heard about the orangutans in another zoo, Houston, I think. The keepers had trained them to bring trash that was thrown into their enclosure to the keepers, and the orangutans would be given a treat. Then the orangutans figured out that if they tore the candy wrappers into smaller pieces, they would get more treats.
SiubhanDuinne
@eclare:
LOL, that’s really brilliant!
the Conster, la Citoyenne
@Iowa Old Lady:
My mother died of Alzheimer’s that she had for at least 12 years. I’m terrified of it, too. Of all the things to die from, that’s what I don’t want the most. Since I’ve basically been a pot head since high school (don’t tell anyone), I’m delighted to hear that I’ve chosen… wisely.
redshirt
@JPL: Yep. It’s like a Karate movie training session.
Gin & Tonic
@Emma: That is true. The video that was released to endorse (“I’m with her”) had PBO wearing the suit and tie he’d worn two days earlier, i.e. two days before his meeting with Sanders. Not surprising, since it takes a little time to record a video. Obviously we don’t know when he’d planned to release it, but I do find it at least symbolic that it was out within minutes after Bernie had left the White House.
Anne Laurie
@JPL:
Start with a single artisanal ‘edible’ in brownie form, plus a trayful of the ordinary variety.
Eat a quarter of the very special one. If the entire tray of normal ones somehow vanishes over the next 15 minutes, you’re as medicated as you need to be, right?
redshirt
@Anne Laurie: I’d vote for Dr. Zaius over either of those two.
NotMax
“You absolutely sure the fireworks are a no go?”
“Yes.”
“Okay, the minstrel show it is, then. Make it so.”
Gin & Tonic
@Baud:
I know you don’t mean ill, but to people in RI, the indoor fireworks and the DIAF phrasing hit too close to home. 100 people really did.
MattF
@Iowa Old Lady: Be careful. And, um, be alert to alterations in your awareness of things around you. Listen to some ragas, and if you detect theme-and-variation you’re doing well.
Iowa Old Lady
@JPL: I had that same thought, but then
@Anne Laurie: BJ comes through with a solution!
redshirt
@Anne Laurie: Good idea for fun! But not so much for the diet. You’ll end up eating 8 regular brownies in an hour and then feel horrible about it the next day.
Edibles can be dangerous for newbies because the marijuana effect is much delayed – it can take an hour or two. This causes them to consume more edibles thinking the product is weak. When the combined effects of multiple edibles finally hit the newbie IS fucked up for a short (6-8 hours) period of time. As long as they don’t jump off a building, they’ll be fine.
Mnemosyne
@Iowa Old Lady:
She hasn’t been around lately, but dance around in your bones swore that she had the very best recipe to make THC-infused oil to make edibles. And she had the kind of stories to make that claim very plausible
redshirt
@Gin & Tonic: That’s my nightmare. To be trapped in a crowd that has literally plugged the exit with bodies, as the fire burns behind me….
Iowa Old Lady
You people are a deep well of information.
Mnemosyne
@Iowa Old Lady:
As I tell G, there’s always someone on B-J who’s an expert about something, no matter what the topic is.
NotMax
@redshirt
Sadly, merely shouting “Fire!” can be enough to trigger disaster.
the Conster, la Citoyenne
@Iowa Old Lady:
Hive mind.
SiubhanDuinne
@Gin & Tonic:
It’s been a while since I’ve seen it, but I seem to recall that he had a line in there something to the effect of “Earlier this week I met with Senator Sanders….” and it seemed a little odd because in real time he had met with Senator Sanders like two hours earlier, if that. Clearly produced in advance, and released whenever Obama put his finger on the PLAY button.
Anya
@SiubhanDuinne: It’s probably more like he wanted to hold it at one of his properties and he was told it can’t be changed becuase it involves a long process.
Emma
@Anya: You know, that makes a Trump-ish sort of sense.
OldDave
@PaulWartenberg2016:
Or perhaps as a librarian. Ook!
Anya
@Emma: The man is incapable of staying out of New York or Palm Beach longer than few hours.
Gravenstone
@the Conster, la Citoyenne: Quite the self righteous little fuckwad, isn’t he?
Villago Delenda Est
@Malaclypse: Just as comparisons between the deserting coward and Hitler are unfair.
To Hitler, who was a war veteran decorated for valor under fire.
Anya
I am watching Odds Against Tomorrow, as per Michael Tomasky’s recommendation ( on Twitter). I am really enjoying it. If you like film noir, check it out. It’s is the first noir with a black protagonist – Harry Belafonte.
Emma
@Anya: Exactly. There’s enough space at Mar-a-Lago, and he could piss off his neighbors more than he already has.
(Only in his boastful mind. And the neighbors would put a hit on him)
Adam L Silverman
@JPL: Also that the time hacks add up to 90 minutes.
Adam L Silverman
@redshirt: Go and read the whole thing:
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/02/why-is-marijuana-banned-the-real-reason-is-worse-than-you-think/
redshirt
@Adam L Silverman: I have freaked out before on marijuana, so it’s certainly possible. But it’s difficult to do so, and near impossible if used responsibly.
Adam L Silverman
@Anya: The dead travel quickly. They also must sleep in the dirt from their own graves…
Schlemazel Khan
@redshirt:
Since the topic came up
I smoked a bit as a kid but it was taboo to the mrs so have not had any for 45 years. Is this modern stuff really that much more potent then good old Thai stick or Maui Wowie? I remember eatables hitting differently than smoking and a bit ‘harder’. Is the difference these days strictly eating related or more THC?
Adam L Silverman
@redshirt: I always find it interesting that behind everything we all think we know about how something happened, the truth is usually even stranger.
redshirt
@Schlemazel Khan: Yes, today’s weed is significantly better then the weed you smoked in the 1970’s. Marijuana growing is far more sophisticated today then 40 years ago.
Schlemazel Khan
@Adam L Silverman:
My grandma’s brother was a hobo back in the days. He talked about booze being illegal and dope being legal so they smoke quite a bit I guess.
I always assumed the marijuana panic was tied to its use by musicians, particularly jazz . . . you know, jungle music.
redshirt
@Adam L Silverman: Can you even really trust the truth?
Schlemazel Khan
@redshirt:
huh, I just sort of thought it was anti-dope propaganda. I was thinking about looking in to it when we visit our kid in Colorado. I think the legalization efforts are wearing the mrs down.
D58826
@the Conster, la Citoyenne: revenge is a dish best served COLD
redshirt
@Schlemazel Khan: It’s true because people have spent decades perfecting genetics.
I'mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet
@Iowa Old Lady: Dunno about the THC side of things, but I do recall this story from May:
If Alzheimer’s and related dementias are actually caused by infections, then it would seem likely that some sort of vaccine or other effective treatment would be not too far down the road.
Fingers crossed!
Cheers,
Scott.
SiubhanDuinne
@Anya:
I have no high opinion of Drumpf, but I find it hard to believe that even he is ignorant enough to think that he could just snap his fingers and declare that he’ll hold the convention wherever he chooses. I mean, even The Donald must surely know that an event of such magnitude requires years of advance planning, room and travel reservations for thousands of attendees, physical set-up of the space, accommodations for world media, negotiations with vendors, contracts with service providers, etc. etc.
What was all that about “great businessman” again?
I'mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet
@Ruckus: Indeed, one needs to be careful. There was a story about a few college kids going to Colorado just after it was legal, getting some edibles, and one of them having a bad reaction to it (~ 30 min after eating it?), panicking, and falling to his death in a hotel.
:-(
Cheers,
Scott.
Schlemazel Khan
@redshirt:
I’m surprised the remembered what they did! ;)
Anya
@SiubhanDuinne: It’s not like leasing out his name requires special business acumen or preparation. But I agree with you. I am just surprised that his people are talking to the media this early in the game. This is a Sarah Palin level leaks
Villago Delenda Est
@I’mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet: Then they’re Maureen Dowd’s story, which indicates high or not, she’s still a dope.
Villago Delenda Est
Um. Total spelling fail in my last post. Then there’s Maureen Dowd’s story.
Anne Laurie
@Schlemazel Khan:
Even back in the 1970s, my old man warned me that he’d eaten some ‘special’ brownies (at a jazz club) and they… re-emerged from both ends of his digestive tract, with great force. I verified this, always by observation, during my own college days: there are people who can smoke THC but not ingest it. And the THC levels are *much* higher in today’s tech-enabled product!
I'mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet
@Villago Delenda Est: :-) You’re supposed to blame Autocorrect!
Here is the 2014 DenverPost story that I was thinking of:
:-(
Cheers,
Scott.
redshirt
@I’mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet: Reefer Madness!
I'mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet
@redshirt: Not exactly.
:-(
Cheers,
Scott.
Ben Cisco (onboard the Defiant)
On call for the holiday weekend. Will get together with the closest mutual friend Mrs. Cisco and I had/have. Basically going to rest and hope my more notorious workaholic users pump the brakes for once.
Also,kudos to whoever suggested Daredevil and Jessica Jones. Both have been enjoyable
SiubhanDuinne
@Anya:
Surprised — no, maybe not — that they’re talking to the media and saying such damaging things about their boss.
If, as was indicated in an earlier thread, campaign staffers are spinning through a revolving door, they may feel there’s nothing much to lose by making Drumpf out to be a clueless fool (or confirming that impression of him). Or maybe they just want someone — a big moneybags, the RNC — to come to the rescue. I can’t read anything about this man’s candidacy, and am at the point where everything and nothing surprises me.
Villago Delenda Est
@Anne Laurie: Yeah, my mother, of all people, handed me two “special cookies”, not knowing they were “special”. My sister had brought them back from the Oregon Country Faire.
I had some very strange experiences that night, totally different from any of my college experimentation days. Much more intense, not very pleasant.
Ruckus
@SiubhanDuinne:
If drumpf is starting down the road to dementia, or a good way into the journey, anything or nothing could be going on inside that tiny head. But rational thought might have escaped completely. Or what was passing for rational thought over the years.
redshirt
@Ben Cisco (onboard the Defiant): That hallway fight in DD Season 1 Episode 3, and man, did JJ have one of the scariest villains on TV. Kilgrave was a nightmare.
ruemara
@Iowa Old Lady: you could try baking it into cookies or brownies or making a hemp butter. You get your mellow, but you don’t have to smoke.
Terry chay
@the Conster, la Citoyenne: I think the most likely explanation was that Obama planned to announce sometime that week and was willing to delay if Bernie needed a few days to prepare to concede (a la Hillary 2008). After that meeting it might have become apparent what he obviously expected, that Bernie had no intention of conceding, at which point it serves no purpose to delay any longer.
I highly doubt Bernie would lecture the President, and if so, I doubt he’d get more than a sentence in before being shut down. Even if it was W, and not Obama, the office itself affords some advantages, and that is one of them.
Iowa Old Lady
Thanks to everyone for the information and the cautions. Blessings on you.
Miss Bianca
@Iowa Old Lady: If you ever want to come out to CO and try for yourself…I have a friend (or would that be a ‘friend’?) who could help you choose your options wisely.
North o' 49
I saw what you did there…