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You are here: Home / Food & Recipes / Cooking / Standing Up By Sitting Down To Eat: Salsa Justice Warriors Unite!

Standing Up By Sitting Down To Eat: Salsa Justice Warriors Unite!

by Adam L Silverman|  September 2, 20168:37 pm| 201 Comments

This post is in: Cooking, Crock Pot Craziness, Food, Humorous, Open Threads

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In response to Marco Gutierrez’s remarks expressing concerns about an invasion of Taco Trucks I decided to strike a blow for Salsa (Verde, also Roja and Crema and guacamole) Justice and went for Mexican food tonight. Never has standing in solidarity, by sitting and eating, tasted so good. Also, the corners of my neighborhood are still clear of taco trucks, so I’m going to keep Balloon Juice set at TacoCon 5 for the time being. So grab your forks my Salsa Justice Warriors and head for the comments – open thread!

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(Guacamole Mexicano)

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(El Paso Burrito with Salsa Roja, Crema, and Verde)

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201Comments

  1. 1.

    Baud

    September 2, 2016 at 8:39 pm

    ?Taco?

  2. 2.

    Virginia (fka Abo Gato)

    September 2, 2016 at 8:42 pm

    In taco-solidarity as well, I am making chalupas with home made salsa and guacamole. It will be ready soon.

    Nums

  3. 3.

    Tim C.

    September 2, 2016 at 8:43 pm

    TACOCON 5…….. Excuse me Mr. Silverman, but I believe you have just won the internet, where would you like it delivered?

  4. 4.

    Omnes Omnibus

    September 2, 2016 at 8:43 pm

    I had a burrito for dinner last night. I hope that counts.

  5. 5.

    Cacti

    September 2, 2016 at 8:44 pm

    FDR promised a chicken in every pot if you did vote for him.

    Trump promises a taco truck on every corner if you DON’T vote for him.

    I choose tacos.

  6. 6.

    nonynony

    September 2, 2016 at 8:44 pm

    I have been promised taco trucks on every corner if Clinton wins. I didn’t even know that was a thing I wanted but now I’m going to be very disappointed if it doesn’t happen.

  7. 7.

    Adam L Silverman

    September 2, 2016 at 8:44 pm

    @Tim C.: I’ll email you my PO Box in a bit.

  8. 8.

    germy

    September 2, 2016 at 8:44 pm

    I remember a joke in “The Joy of Cooking”. They called Tequila “the gulp of Mexico.”

  9. 9.

    Adam L Silverman

    September 2, 2016 at 8:45 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: Yes, yes it does. I normally just get the burrito, but I ordered an a la carte order of tacos just to make a point. And get the picture for the blog post.

  10. 10.

    Omnes Omnibus

    September 2, 2016 at 8:46 pm

    @nonynony: You know that, if it doesn’t come to pass, it will be marked down as a Clinton campaign promise that was broken.

  11. 11.

    Cacti

    September 2, 2016 at 8:46 pm

    If the national election was between Tacos and Donald Trump, Tacos would win in a 50-state landslide.

  12. 12.

    germy

    September 2, 2016 at 8:46 pm

    @Cacti:

    FDR promised a chicken in every pot if you did vote for him.

    Trump promises a taco truck on every corner if you DON’T vote for him.

    I want tacos, but I also want pot-infused chicken … baked chicken that gets you baked.

  13. 13.

    Baud

    September 2, 2016 at 8:47 pm

    I hope the Clinton people get her to go to a taco truck on Tuesday.

  14. 14.

    Adam L Silverman

    September 2, 2016 at 8:48 pm

    @germy: Do you have to sign up for a marijuana infused fowl card? Or is this purely free range (in search of doritos) chicken?

  15. 15.

    Pogonip

    September 2, 2016 at 8:48 pm

    I vote for the taco trucks.

    Debit, are you there? How’s Walter doing at the end of his first week in the place where all the dogs are above average?

  16. 16.

    Baud

    September 2, 2016 at 8:48 pm

    I should have selected taco as my running mate.

    Who knew?

  17. 17.

    Pogonip

    September 2, 2016 at 8:49 pm

    @germy: Jeffrey probably has a recipe.

  18. 18.

    germy

    September 2, 2016 at 8:49 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: Depends on what state you’re in.

  19. 19.

    Cacti

    September 2, 2016 at 8:50 pm

    Taco Trucks also create jobs.

    Trump opposes good food and jobs.

    Boo!

  20. 20.

    redshirt

    September 2, 2016 at 8:52 pm

    If I ever have a taco truck on my corner I’ll be freaked out, but not in a Trump way.

    WTF is a taco truck doing up here? If that happens, we’ve truly reached peak taco truck.

  21. 21.

    schrodinger's cat

    September 2, 2016 at 8:52 pm

    Taco Trucks FTW!

  22. 22.

    Mike J

    September 2, 2016 at 8:52 pm

    @Baud: ??

    Tacos al pastor are my preferred taco type.

  23. 23.

    redshirt

    September 2, 2016 at 8:52 pm

    @Baud: Hard or soft?

  24. 24.

    germy

    September 2, 2016 at 8:53 pm

    @Cacti:

    If the national election was between Tacos and Donald Trump, Tacos would win in a 50-state landslide.

    I would expect Taco to win the debates.

  25. 25.

    Steeplejack

    September 2, 2016 at 8:54 pm

    My shut-in inertia got the better of me today, but I might have to hit District Taco tomorrow. They started as a truck, but they have stealthily metastasized into multiple storefront locations. The reconquista has started!

  26. 26.

    Baud

    September 2, 2016 at 8:55 pm

    @Mike J: I don’t have a taco emoji. ?

  27. 27.

    Douglas W Wieboldt

    September 2, 2016 at 8:55 pm

    @germy: Awesome!

  28. 28.

    raven

    September 2, 2016 at 8:55 pm

    I’ve had this shirt for years!

    Carne Asada is Not a Crime
    Savas Las Trocas!

  29. 29.

    Mike J

    September 2, 2016 at 8:55 pm

    This is also the time to remember that tacocat backwards is tacocat.

  30. 30.

    rikyrah

    September 2, 2016 at 8:55 pm

    Man, I love my local no-English speaking Taco joint. The food is delicious and economical.

  31. 31.

    Baud

    September 2, 2016 at 8:56 pm

    @redshirt: Soft tacos are for soft people like Trump.

  32. 32.

    redshirt

    September 2, 2016 at 8:58 pm

    @Baud: Soft tacos are more burrito than taco, really.

  33. 33.

    raven

    September 2, 2016 at 8:58 pm

    @redshirt: A hard corn with a soft flour are spectacular on fish tacos, I made them for 50 a couple of weeks back.

  34. 34.

    Baud

    September 2, 2016 at 9:00 pm

    Do you want a banana republic or a taco republic?

    Vote Hillary!

  35. 35.

    Steeplejack

    September 2, 2016 at 9:00 pm

    @Mike J:

    Cool song.

  36. 36.

    raven

    September 2, 2016 at 9:01 pm

    Our Mexican-American painting company owner brought me gorditos after my surgery last week. The were insane!

  37. 37.

    redshirt

    September 2, 2016 at 9:01 pm

    @raven: That sounds like a great idea, as the soft tortilla can cover up the hard shell’s fault lines. It’s like a shield for the ingredients inside.

  38. 38.

    Adam L Silverman

    September 2, 2016 at 9:01 pm

    @raven: How are you feeling?

  39. 39.

    mike in dc

    September 2, 2016 at 9:02 pm

    Empanadas, I’m an empanada guy. Mmm, empanadas.

  40. 40.

    Ceci n'est pas mon nym

    September 2, 2016 at 9:02 pm

    Sort of on topic: We just discovered (via our daughter) a Mexican-Irish place. We went there for breakfast and I had a full Irish breakfast AND chorizo. Meat-lovers paradise! I was chatting with the owner/cook afterward and he promised me nopales next time I come by if I want them. They aren’t on the menu, but he says he eats them every day.

    Now if I could find somebody who serves mole, I’ll really be happy.

  41. 41.

    raven

    September 2, 2016 at 9:03 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: Not bad, 2 mile walks and I can get back in the water Tuesday. I get the occasional stinger but that’s part of the deal. No opioids for 4 days so I think I dodged that bullet.

    thx

  42. 42.

    Adam L Silverman

    September 2, 2016 at 9:04 pm

    @mike in dc: Empanadas are excellent too!

  43. 43.

    scav

    September 2, 2016 at 9:04 pm

    @Cacti: Let’s go for Tacos de Pollo and combine the two campaigns. At least two apiece. Chile Rellenos. Tamales also a must have. But O! I have to walk across the intersection now to get to my most local fixed-location dealer! The far superior this-side same corner dealer went away!

  44. 44.

    Ceci n'est pas mon nym

    September 2, 2016 at 9:04 pm

    @Ceci n’est pas mon nym: (Afraid to edit as that tends to throw me into moderation).

    There’s not a whole lot of Mexican food in Philly, but there are one or two good places. There’s a place called El Rey downtown that has pretty good stuff, including a nice variety of tacos. A little on the fancy-schmancy, overpriced side though.

  45. 45.

    Adam L Silverman

    September 2, 2016 at 9:04 pm

    @raven: Excellent to hear/read.

  46. 46.

    raven

    September 2, 2016 at 9:09 pm

    @redshirt: Honestly I hadn’t heard of it until I was planning the party menu. I’d always used two softened torts. I came across the idea googling fish tacos and tried it. I actually bought 50 hard corn shells from the neighborhood Mexican joint and softened the flours. Add the smoked fish and chipotle slaw and we be jammin.

  47. 47.

    raven

    September 2, 2016 at 9:10 pm

    @scav: Hard to find real Rellenos.

  48. 48.

    Gravenstone

    September 2, 2016 at 9:13 pm

    This may be a new record. Just unfollowed someone on Facebook less than an hour after finally accepting their friend request (went to HS together). They posted what can only be described as an “ugly American” meme which culminated in “love it or leave it”. Fuck that noise. Ain’t got the time or energy to deal with that shit anymore.

  49. 49.

    raven

    September 2, 2016 at 9:13 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: 47 years ago I got on the Freedom Bird, flew to Travis and ets’d. The next day Santana for $3!

  50. 50.

    RSA

    September 2, 2016 at 9:13 pm

    I can see his point. Where will we be if the taco trucks start crowding out the falafel trucks and the bikini barista trucks? It will be a sad day…

  51. 51.

    Adam L Silverman

    September 2, 2016 at 9:13 pm

    @raven: Most places I know not in New Mexico use poblanos. In New Mexico most places use a Hatch.

  52. 52.

    Adam L Silverman

    September 2, 2016 at 9:14 pm

    @raven: Also excellent.

  53. 53.

    raven

    September 2, 2016 at 9:14 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: Ah, once in a while I can get some canned Hatch. Not the best but it has to do.

  54. 54.

    dmsilev

    September 2, 2016 at 9:15 pm

    I’d like to express my deep admiration for whoever it was on Twitter that came up with the #GuacTheVote hashtag.

  55. 55.

    Rand Careaga

    September 2, 2016 at 9:16 pm

    Tacos on rigid preformed shells? No. Just say no.

  56. 56.

    raven

    September 2, 2016 at 9:16 pm

    @dmsilev: Stolen

  57. 57.

    scav

    September 2, 2016 at 9:17 pm

    @raven: I know.

    sigh

    Easier when I was back in SB or SF, although I’m sure there are some down near Pilson or Blue Island that come on the properly thick white plates with red rims. And I was too busy having a full carne experience at the place in we found in Las Vegas.

  58. 58.

    Elmo

    September 2, 2016 at 9:18 pm

    Brought home 5lbs of tomatillos and the weekend is all about salsa verde. We are growing our own hot chiles and I bought cilantro at the store.

    Solidarity!

  59. 59.

    redshirt

    September 2, 2016 at 9:19 pm

    @RSA: My Espresso Truck!!!

  60. 60.

    raven

    September 2, 2016 at 9:19 pm

    @scav: El Bravo on 7th in Phoenix has killer!

  61. 61.

    Adam L Silverman

    September 2, 2016 at 9:19 pm

    @raven: When I used to be in NM a couple of times a year, I’d always bring several bags back and then freeze them as soon as I got home.

  62. 62.

    Helen

    September 2, 2016 at 9:20 pm

    The appraiser for the purchaser’s bank inspected the apartment this morning. One more task checked of the moving list.

  63. 63.

    Larryb

    September 2, 2016 at 9:21 pm

    @raven: How was Sea train?

  64. 64.

    raven

    September 2, 2016 at 9:21 pm

    Democrats Troll Donald Trump With a Taco Truck in Colorado

    Colorado Democrats are setting up a taco truck outside of Donald Trump’s campaign office in Denver to register voters after a Trump surrogate said that more Mexicans moving to the United States would lead to “taco trucks on every corner.”

  65. 65.

    Larryb

    September 2, 2016 at 9:22 pm

    @raven: Inquiring minds want to know: are Democratic tacos any good?

  66. 66.

    Adam L Silverman

    September 2, 2016 at 9:22 pm

    @raven: That Trump office will be at Taco-Con 1 or 2 by Monday.

  67. 67.

    raven

    September 2, 2016 at 9:24 pm

    @Larryb: 47 years ago, just got home, purple organic mesc and I never heard of Santana. I think Sea Train was good.

  68. 68.

    Adam L Silverman

    September 2, 2016 at 9:24 pm

    @Rand Careaga: Actually they fry their own shells on site. They have one of the formers. I asked for hard tonight, but I could have had soft. Unfortunately, where I’m at now, you can’t get sopapilla tacos. Actually you can’t get sopapilla anything.

  69. 69.

    raven

    September 2, 2016 at 9:24 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: Yes!

  70. 70.

    Felonius Monk

    September 2, 2016 at 9:24 pm

    Homemade Barbacoa burritos tonight. The barbacoa really turned out well. Probably stuff some into a poblano for tomorrow night’s supper.

  71. 71.

    Keith P.

    September 2, 2016 at 9:25 pm

    Adam L. Silverman loves Hispanics!

    I just finished dialysis, so it’s holiday weekend. For the first time in over a year, I’m going into the weekend on a cleaning tear (usually, I wait until Sunday evening and peter out in 1/2 hour). And have been trying to learn Universal Windows…just about have the hang of it (it’s basically a stripped-down WPF, for those in the know). Have been on an absolute tear there as well. Hopefully, I can maintain the momentum through the weekend and not sleep half the day.

  72. 72.

    Baud

    September 2, 2016 at 9:26 pm

    When the moon
    Hits your eye
    Like a big pizza pie
    That’s a taco.

  73. 73.

    Steeplejack

    September 2, 2016 at 9:26 pm

    @Larryb:

    Are Democrat ic tacos any good?

    Fixed for proper media bias.

  74. 74.

    Baud

    September 2, 2016 at 9:27 pm

    @raven: How’d they find a taco truck so quickly?

  75. 75.

    redshirt

    September 2, 2016 at 9:27 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: When I first moved to NM I was offered chili and I of course thought of Texas chili with meat and veggies and maybe beans (discuss), but instead was served a bowl of green liquid. It was shocking and I felt like I was in a foreign country.

  76. 76.

    NotMax

    September 2, 2016 at 9:27 pm

    @Cacti

    Not FDR. That was the Republican party in advertising supporting Hoover during the 1928 campaign.

    “A chicken in every pot and a car in every backyard”

  77. 77.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    September 2, 2016 at 9:30 pm

    man, Dan Rather on TRMS is wetting the bed so bad about the rise of Trump and the collapse of Hillary that he’s gonna be washed out of it

    he just boldly and dramatically predicted that we should not be surprised (!) if it is announced this month (!) that this year’s Clinton Global Initiative meeting would be the last one (!). I think they announced that last week.

    ETA: David Bossie, who helped make Dan Burton a laughing stock and was then fired is “highly effective” (!)

  78. 78.

    debit

    September 2, 2016 at 9:32 pm

    @Pogonip: Walter is doing great. I’m happy to report that he has had zero accidents since his arrival here, which is far better than I expected. He spent about ten minutes tonight luxuriously rolling in the grass of the back yard, then gave a satisfied little snort and wandered over to the back door to be let back in. He’s doing really well on his walks, and I’m going to have to order a harness for him as he’s starting to be strong enough to want to pull. He is just such a sweet and loving guy; really wants to please and behaves himself like a true gentleman. Never countersurfs or trash bin dives, gives the cats an interested wag but doesn’t chase, waits for his food to be mixed like a good boy.

    I just love him to pieces and am making it my goal to get him strong enough so he go up the stairs and sleep in my room with Ellie when it’s bedtime. It really breaks my heart to leave him alone downstairs all night, although I’m sure he’s just fine.

  79. 79.

    Baud

    September 2, 2016 at 9:34 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    he just boldly and dramatically predicted that we should not be surprised (!) if it is announced this month (!) that this year’s Clinton Global Initiative meeting would be the last one (!). I think they announced that last week.

    That’s some mighty fine prognosticating there, Dan.

  80. 80.

    raven

    September 2, 2016 at 9:37 pm

    @debit: He’s ok down there. We built a new addition so we would have room for a king bed so the pups could fit. It took three years and Lil Bit snores so loud and scratches so much that she just can’t be in the rack. They both get 4 cookies before we go to sleep and she does fine on her little bed. Once I get over this surgery I’ll let her back in the bed for her cookies but, right now, I shouldn’t pick her up and put her on the floor.

  81. 81.

    Adam L Silverman

    September 2, 2016 at 9:37 pm

    @redshirt: They just do that to mess with people.

  82. 82.

    piratedan

    September 2, 2016 at 9:41 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: well, Hatch IS the chili capital of the US of A, so ‘natch its a Hatch

  83. 83.

    Adam L Silverman

    September 2, 2016 at 9:42 pm

    @piratedan: But of course.

  84. 84.

    raven

    September 2, 2016 at 9:42 pm

    @debit: This doofus is our neighbor/tenants pup. We’re having her house painted so he hung out with us today. He’s kin to your dogs.

  85. 85.

    Major Major Major Major

    September 2, 2016 at 9:45 pm

    Is TacoCon like Comicon?

  86. 86.

    Mnemosyne

    September 2, 2016 at 9:46 pm

    I’m afraid that I’m breaking with Taco Solidarity and having pizza for dinner. I did have a taco bowl for lunch, though — does that count?

    I still haven’t found anyone IRL who thinks having a taco truck on every street would be bad. In fact, most of them want to know exactly when this program will be implemented, and how multi-culti it will be. Do we have to stick strictly with Mexican-style tacos, or can we continue our Angeleno melting pot and keep our Korean BBQ tacos as well?

  87. 87.

    debit

    September 2, 2016 at 9:47 pm

    @raven:

    We built a new addition so we would have room for a king bed so the pups could fit.

    A man after my own heart. Sometimes I come down in the middle of the night and crash on the couch so I can let him know he’s not alone. Like I said, I know he’s okay. My kids joke that they were raised by wolves, but I seem to have become a helicopter pet parent.

  88. 88.

    Adam L Silverman

    September 2, 2016 at 9:48 pm

    @srv: Did she actually ever get there.

  89. 89.

    debit

    September 2, 2016 at 9:48 pm

    @raven: What a sweetie!!

  90. 90.

    Baud

    September 2, 2016 at 9:49 pm

    @srv:

    noting that the press covering Clinton’s campaign will now be allowed to travel on the same plane as her.

    Hahahaha. I picture them traveling in the baggage hold.

  91. 91.

    raven

    September 2, 2016 at 9:50 pm

    @debit: When I wake up @ 3 or 4 I usually come out to the couch. After a while the Bohdi will wander in and nose my hand. I scratch his face and ears and then he turns his butt to me for a few. Then he just ambles on back to the rack with his mommy.

  92. 92.

    Baud

    September 2, 2016 at 9:50 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: I think she ended up in Colombia.

  93. 93.

    Omnes Omnibus

    September 2, 2016 at 9:51 pm

    @efgoldman:

    Spectator I: I think it was “taco trucks on every corner”.

    Mrs. Gregory: Aha, what’s so special about taco trucks?

    Gregory: Well, obviously it’s not meant to be taken literally; it refers to any mobile purveyor of ethnic food.

  94. 94.

    Adam L Silverman

    September 2, 2016 at 9:51 pm

    @Major Major Major Major: No its like Def-Con.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHBqJj0znYo

    There will be no dressing up as a sexy taco!

  95. 95.

    The Ancient Randonnuer

    September 2, 2016 at 9:52 pm

    @piratedan:

    … Hatch IS the chili chile capital of the US of A, so ‘natch its a Hatch

    The peppers we all know and love are chiles.

    ETA: Back in the 90’s a NM state legislator introduced a bill that would have made “Red or green?” the official state question.

  96. 96.

    Steeplejack

    September 2, 2016 at 9:52 pm

    @raven:

    Huh. My own introduction to Santana came around the same time—summer of ’69. I was going back to the States to start college, flying from Okinawa on a commercial jet filled mostly with GIs returning from Vietnam.

    (As you know but others might not, Uncle Sam was doing such a booming business that DOD contracted with several airlines to run contract flights to and from Vietnam. Any time of the day or night you could go down to the air terminal at Kadena and see the big jets coming and going. All bright primary colors—quite a contrast with the olive-drab B-52s at the other end of the flight line. But I digress.)

    The plane was equipped with an early version of in-flight music with little earbuds, and the “rock” channel was pretty good, I remember. Then I was floored by a song I had never heard: “Treat,” by Santana (starts slow and blasts off at 1:00.)

    I thought, Wow, I need to check these guys out. I bought that first album as soon as I got to school, and then they blew up a few months later after their exposure at Woodstock and “Evil Ways” got on the radio.

  97. 97.

    raven

    September 2, 2016 at 9:53 pm

    @debit: Bohdi was nervous all day! “What are you doing bringing this giant loudmouth here!” The really did ok until his owner came over and petted them both causing a momentary conflagration. Lot of noise with no damage.

  98. 98.

    Adam L Silverman

    September 2, 2016 at 9:53 pm

    @srv: Maybe if they counted the two press conferences, with minority journalist organizations, that she’s done in the past month, they’d get their math right. Can’t imagine why those don’t count…

  99. 99.

    NonyNony

    September 2, 2016 at 9:53 pm

    @Mnemosyne:

    I still haven’t found anyone IRL who thinks having a taco truck on every street would be bad.

    I’m sure that if we go out and find some Trump supporters we could find some people who would think it’s bad.

    Hell I bet if I really wanted to I could get on my Book Of Faces account and find a few family members ranting about how awful taco trucks are and how stoopid lieberals don’t understand mumble mumble something something.

    Although – even the folks in the small towns have food trucks these days. And likely wouldn’t mind a few more.

  100. 100.

    Major Major Major Major

    September 2, 2016 at 9:54 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: I know what defcon is, I was just hoping ☹️☹️?

  101. 101.

    NonyNony

    September 2, 2016 at 9:55 pm

    @Adam L Silverman:

    Maybe if they counted the two press conferences, with minority journalist organizations, that she’s done in the past month, they’d get their math right.

    I’m suddenly starting to understand the ramp up in Clinton Foundation coverage that the Times has been spewing for the past few weeks. They’re feeling insulted and want to make their feelings known.

  102. 102.

    redshirt

    September 2, 2016 at 9:56 pm

    @Mnemosyne: I’ve already stated for the record that I’d be freaked out.

  103. 103.

    debit

    September 2, 2016 at 9:56 pm

    @raven: I’ll confess that Ellie’s first reaction to Walter was kind of, “Why? Why did you do this? We were so happy!” But now they are best buds.

  104. 104.

    Adam L Silverman

    September 2, 2016 at 9:57 pm

    @Major Major Major Major: We’ve seen/read how you operate… We’re watching you!

  105. 105.

    raven

    September 2, 2016 at 9:57 pm

    @Steeplejack: Jingo and Soul Survivor got me the most. I flew commercial from Than Son Nut to Guam and, for some fucking reason, they made us get out and we sat on the goddamn runway for 2 hours waiting for a C-141 to take us the rest of the way. The funny thing about taking off in Nam is that we flew on the deck out toward the Black Virgin Mountain and there were guys in that plane who had just been down in that shit. They were seriously freaked since we were low enough for ground fire to hit us.

  106. 106.

    raven

    September 2, 2016 at 9:58 pm

    @debit: These two clowns see each other across the fence all the time. The petting riled them up.

  107. 107.

    raven

    September 2, 2016 at 10:00 pm

    @Steeplejack: Woodstock was two weeks before I got home. What were you doing in Asia then?

  108. 108.

    Jeffro

    September 2, 2016 at 10:02 pm

    Mrs Jeffro and I went for some Thai food tonight to celebrate our 30th, but rest assured there will be some taco nom nom nom-ing this weekend in support of our not-insane presidential candidate and democrats everywhere. Also in support of my belly. Ok primarily in support of my belly.

  109. 109.

    Major Major Major Major

    September 2, 2016 at 10:03 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: ?

  110. 110.

    raven

    September 2, 2016 at 10:07 pm

    Not much point in staying up for the stanford game

  111. 111.

    Mnemosyne

    September 2, 2016 at 10:10 pm

    Also, too, I’m now thinking I need to finally make the trek to La Super-Rica Taqueria when we’re in Santa Barbara next month. It was Julia Child’s favorite, don’t’cha know.

  112. 112.

    Mnemosyne

    September 2, 2016 at 10:11 pm

    @redshirt:

    Well, yes, but only because you live in a bunker. I’m assuming it’s not because you hate tacos.

  113. 113.

    redshirt

    September 2, 2016 at 10:13 pm

    @Mnemosyne: A compound is not a bunker! I’d totally not survive a bombing raid.

  114. 114.

    Adam L Silverman

    September 2, 2016 at 10:13 pm

    @Major Major Major Major: You have a head wound? You’re auditioning for a fife and drum band as the guy with the head wound? You don’t know how to properly wrap your turban? Help a guy out here.

  115. 115.

    `1

    September 2, 2016 at 10:14 pm

    @raven:

    I was being a “dependent.” My dad was career Air Force—a doctor—and he was running the “dispensary” (really a large clinic) at Kadena A.B. and doing flight-surgeon runs on B-52s and AWACS. I did my last two years of high school over there.

    ETA: My first college roommate lived practically on top of Woodstock but didn’t get to go. His father made him work at the family campground business. Max Yasgur was his milkman! Of course, now he can claim that he was there, along with 13 million other people.

  116. 116.

    Adam L Silverman

    September 2, 2016 at 10:14 pm

    @raven: I’m watching Young Frankenstein. I’m not going to watch Steve Kornacki stammer through getting stepped all over by Hugh Hewitt.

  117. 117.

    Adam L Silverman

    September 2, 2016 at 10:16 pm

    @Mnemosyne: While she was a for cover operative or after she retired?

  118. 118.

    scav

    September 2, 2016 at 10:16 pm

    @Mnemosyne: Have extra for me for I too have stood in line outside the blue door. . If there are seafood tamales, take them.

    Now I really am going to go whimper.

  119. 119.

    Adam L Silverman

    September 2, 2016 at 10:16 pm

    @redshirt: Start digging.

  120. 120.

    Steeplejack

    September 2, 2016 at 10:16 pm

    FYWP! (mangled nym)

    @raven:

    I was being a “dependent.” My dad was career Air Force—a doctor—and he was running the “dispensary” (really a large clinic) at Kadena A.B. and doing flight-surgeon runs on B-52s and AWACS. I did my last two years of high school over there.

    ETA: My first college roommate lived practically on top of Woodstock but didn’t get to go. His father made him work at the family campground business. Max Yasgur was his milkman! Of course, now he can claim that he was there, along with 13 million other people.

  121. 121.

    Lizzy L

    September 2, 2016 at 10:17 pm

    Last night was calabacitas for dinner; today was leftover calabacitas for lunch. No tacos. Sorry. But I would love to have a taco truck on the corner, any corner, in my hood. One of my neighbors makes and occasionally sells pupusas out of her garage — Salvadorean not Mexican, but so good!

    I might drop one of the local taco joints tomorrow or Sunday (holiday weekend,yeah) and celebrate with a lengua corn burrito heaped with grilled onions and sour cream. I love them.

  122. 122.

    Omnes Omnibus

    September 2, 2016 at 10:18 pm

    @redshirt: A compound without a bunker is a hunting camp.

    ETA: There is nothing wrong with having a hunting camp.

  123. 123.

    Steeplejack

    September 2, 2016 at 10:20 pm

    @Major Major Major Major:

    Think DEFCON. 5 not bad, 1 very bad.

  124. 124.

    Adam L Silverman

    September 2, 2016 at 10:22 pm

    @Steeplejack: I released it. Not quite sure what happened with that.

  125. 125.

    Omnes Omnibus

    September 2, 2016 at 10:24 pm

    @Steeplejack: Wanting a taco in Austria in 1990 is a recipe for TacoCon 1.

  126. 126.

    Steeplejack

    September 2, 2016 at 10:25 pm

    @`1:

    Okay, this one didn’t really need to be released from moderation.

    ETA: Although I guess now I’ve got a spare nym if I need one.

  127. 127.

    Mnemosyne

    September 2, 2016 at 10:26 pm

    @Adam L Silverman:

    Before and/or after. She was a local girl — born in Pasadena, retired to Santa Barbara.

  128. 128.

    Omnes Omnibus

    September 2, 2016 at 10:26 pm

    @Steeplejack: Working on a new ‘nym?

  129. 129.

    Omnes Omnibus

    September 2, 2016 at 10:27 pm

    @Mnemosyne: When did she leave Cambridge?

  130. 130.

    Steeplejack

    September 2, 2016 at 10:28 pm

    @Adam L Silverman:

    I think maybe the housecat patted the keyboard while I was getting a drink from the kitchen. It has her trademark punctuation.

  131. 131.

    Adam L Silverman

    September 2, 2016 at 10:28 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: Donner Kebab?

  132. 132.

    PaulWartenberg2016

    September 2, 2016 at 10:30 pm

    Mama Wartenberg’s German-Irish Taco recipe:

    Pulled pork
    Tons of chili sauce
    Tons of lettuce chopped onions and chopped tomato
    Tons of cheddar and monterey jack cheeses
    Tons of sour cream

    Eat

  133. 133.

    Adam L Silverman

    September 2, 2016 at 10:30 pm

    @Steeplejack: Okay, the judges indicated that on a technical review we can allow it.

  134. 134.

    redshirt

    September 2, 2016 at 10:31 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: A compound on top of a mountain is not a hunting camp. And there is no hunting from this camp anyways. Yet.

  135. 135.

    Major Major Major Major

    September 2, 2016 at 10:32 pm

    @Steeplejack: I know, I know. But a boy can dream.

  136. 136.

    Omnes Omnibus

    September 2, 2016 at 10:34 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: Not a taco. Actually the late night food of the choice in Kitzbühel was the bosna. Do not try to talk to women after eating one. It was strictly for someone going home alone. Otherwise, currywurst.

    @redshirt: Not a compound without a bunker. Deal.

  137. 137.

    PhoenixRising

    September 2, 2016 at 10:35 pm

    @srv:

    The presidential long shot accidentally flew to Cincinnati instead of Columbus, where she had been scheduled to speak at Capital University. The school’s branch of the Green Party confirmed the mixup to The Columbus Dispatch.

    Wow, they sound smart. Swing state with voting rights in the hands of GOP goobers who want to make it harder than is legal (?we’ll see whether SCOTUS agrees with me or the 6th CA on Tuesday) for black people to vote definitely needs 2 speeches in a day from a doctor who’s never been elected to anything and can’t find the right destination city.

    The revolution will not use GPS.
    The revolution didn’t learn its state capitols.
    The revolution will spend some time on I-71

    with apologies to Gil-Scot Heron, from me on behalf of white people

  138. 138.

    Steeplejack

    September 2, 2016 at 10:35 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    Srsly.

    Actually, to continue the hippie geezer reminiscences, the first real meal I had when I got back from Okinawa in ’69 was Tex-Mex, at Karim’s in San Antonio. And that was on the morning before I left Okinawa. (International dateline and serious jet lag. Flew from Okinawa to Travis AFB outside San Francisco, then directly from SFO to San Antonio, so I got to Karim’s a few hours before I left Okinawa.)

    Karim’s is no more, alas. It should have been enshrined in the National Register of Awesome Restaurants. But, hey, racism. My dad, a true Tex-Mex aficionado, used to take me there when we lived in Texas before going to Okinawa.

  139. 139.

    redshirt

    September 2, 2016 at 10:37 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: Is a basement a bunker?

  140. 140.

    `1

    September 2, 2016 at 10:37 pm

    @Adam L Silverman:
    Score! Woo-hoo!

  141. 141.

    Omnes Omnibus

    September 2, 2016 at 10:39 pm

    @redshirt: How bomb and/or artillery proof is it?

  142. 142.

    seaboogie

    September 2, 2016 at 10:39 pm

    @RSA: I live in the land of taco trucks – me want falafel truck – also too!

  143. 143.

    `1

    September 2, 2016 at 10:40 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    I think there has to be at least one bulkhead-type door that is opened by turning a big steampunk wheel, but I’ll defer to the Corps of Engineers specs on that.

  144. 144.

    Adam L Silverman

    September 2, 2016 at 10:41 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: I’ve had several of those over the years while TDY in Germany. Or the local equivalent. And currywurst too!

  145. 145.

    Adam L Silverman

    September 2, 2016 at 10:42 pm

    @`1: Also needs an upside down Gadsden Flag. And a picture of Cliven Bundy.

  146. 146.

    redshirt

    September 2, 2016 at 10:42 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: Not very. ;(

  147. 147.

    Mnemosyne

    September 2, 2016 at 10:43 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    Can’t seem to find a precise date — in this essay from 2002 she says she “recently” sold her house in Cambridge.

  148. 148.

    Steeplejack (tablet)

    September 2, 2016 at 10:44 pm

    @`1:

    Damn, I’ve got to be careful. FYWP with the sticky nyms and all.

  149. 149.

    Omnes Omnibus

    September 2, 2016 at 10:45 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: I can still visualize the path from The Londoner to the bosna stand after 25 years. OTOH, the schnitzel stands in Bamberg and at Graf taught me how to say “without mayonnaise” in German very quickly.

  150. 150.

    Omnes Omnibus

    September 2, 2016 at 10:48 pm

    @redshirt: Would you prefer a fishing to a hunting camp? It’s a camp, not a compound.

  151. 151.

    Adam L Silverman

    September 2, 2016 at 10:50 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: There was a great cart/stand at Hohenfels when we went through JMRC – beat eating TRats. At Clay Kaserne, when I was TDY at USAREUR, there was both a great stand/cart between the HQ building and the parking deck and the Canteen two blocks over from the DFAC.

  152. 152.

    Omnes Omnibus

    September 2, 2016 at 10:53 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: I did one Hohenfels rotation. It was a horror show. I have blanked out as much as I can from it.

  153. 153.

    redshirt

    September 2, 2016 at 10:53 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: Camp just implies vacation retreat. Compound means something else entirely. The Branch Dravidians had a compound. That wasn’t a camp.

  154. 154.

    Steeplejack

    September 2, 2016 at 10:54 pm

    @Adam L Silverman:

    Hey, good guys can have bunkers too! Don’t fall for that “Batcave/Fortress of Solitude” rebranding crap.

    This will be covered in my (I hope) forthcoming series Survival Flip on HGTV. It’s still in the pitch stage, but fingers crossed. Pilot episode: “Converting Granddad’s Bomb Shelter into a Prepper’s Dream Space.”

  155. 155.

    Steeplejack

    September 2, 2016 at 10:55 pm

    @Steeplejack (tablet):

    Really? No one likes “Sticky Nyms” as as band name? It practically leaps out at you.

  156. 156.

    Omnes Omnibus

    September 2, 2016 at 10:56 pm

    @redshirt: Yep. Hence the need for the bunker.

  157. 157.

    seaboogie

    September 2, 2016 at 10:57 pm

    @debit:

    I’m going to have to order a harness for him as he’s starting to be strong enough to want to pull.

    Normally this a sort of annoying aspect of dog-walking, but in this case it makes me so happy to hear it – thanks for the pupdate, debit! I send you a virtual {{{hug}}} for a) adopting Walter and b) keeping us posted.

  158. 158.

    Omnes Omnibus

    September 2, 2016 at 10:58 pm

    @Steeplejack: Sticky is sort of like moist. Iffy connotations.

  159. 159.

    redshirt

    September 2, 2016 at 11:00 pm

    @Steeplejack: Pimp my silo.

  160. 160.

    redshirt

    September 2, 2016 at 11:01 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: They had no bunker. Were they a hunting camp? Your definitions are messed up.

  161. 161.

    Adam L Silverman

    September 2, 2016 at 11:04 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: Fortunately for us the idiot training lead for our program at TRADOC, when he went over on the pre TDY site visit, despite being a retired O5, was too stupid to let anyone at the brigade know we were coming. He and the knuckleheaded O3 who he took with him only met with the training cadre at Hohenfells. So my team’s ASO got there 24 hours before us, gets to Hohenfells, no one knows who we are or that we’re on the way. We arrive the next day, they’ve got no bunks available to us. All they’ve got is an unheated storage shed that can’t be locked. So no way to secure our gear and I don’t have enough people, let alone anyone with a real weapon, to mount a guard. So we politely declined, went to guest lodging, but they were full up – all the GOs and their aides and staff from Division and Corps. So we went into town and got rooms at a Guesthaus. I sent a sitrep back to the PM and the idiot (and soon to be replaced training director) immediately comes on the net and says we’re not authorized and we won’t be reimbursed. Eventually the PM comes on the net and overruled him. First time I left boot prints on their scalps. Those idiots at the training site – all contracted retirees (and a few PTSD separated guys that hadn’t made it to retirement) – never forgot and made my life a living hell from that point on whenever they had a chance. So for us we had a nice place to stay in town.

  162. 162.

    redshirt

    September 2, 2016 at 11:05 pm

    @efgoldman: No bear hunts me. But a mouse did get inside my house last night and it was quite disturbing.

  163. 163.

    Adam L Silverman

    September 2, 2016 at 11:05 pm

    @Steeplejack: Make sure to give us a heads up, I’ll put it on the front page.

  164. 164.

    Omnes Omnibus

    September 2, 2016 at 11:07 pm

    @redshirt: They certainly had a bunker.

  165. 165.

    redshirt

    September 2, 2016 at 11:12 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: Meh

  166. 166.

    Omnes Omnibus

    September 2, 2016 at 11:12 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: I preferred Graf. To be completely honest, I preferred weekends off when I could go skiing in Austria during the winter and traveling in general during the rest of the year.

  167. 167.

    Adam L Silverman

    September 2, 2016 at 11:14 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: I wouldn’t want to live outside Hohenfells, but for three weeks we had it okay at the guesthaus. I did like Wiesbaden when I was there. Baumholder was nice, but tiny.

  168. 168.

    Omnes Omnibus

    September 2, 2016 at 11:15 pm

    @efgoldman: Bamberg. Just to the north. My battalion’s motor pool buildings were Claus von Stauffenberg’s cavalry regimemt’s stables/motor pool in the ’20s.

  169. 169.

    Steeplejack (tablet)

    September 2, 2016 at 11:16 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    Point taken.

    But “Iffy Connotations” could be a good band name. Or maybe an album.

  170. 170.

    seaboogie

    September 2, 2016 at 11:17 pm

    @Steeplejack:

    My own introduction to Santana came around the same time—summer of ’69.

    My musical introduction to Santana was as a pre-teen in MN, courtesty of my three years older aunt. My actual physical introduction to Santana was in an asian import warehouse where I worked in San Rafael, CA. He came in looking for a Santo statue, and we rolled around the warehouse inspecting our wares together. After a while, I said – as was my custom – “My name is Beth, what is your name?” He turned around to look at me, paused for a minute, and replied “Carlos”. He lives (or did live) in San Rafael, and was abundantly accustomed to all and sundry calling out “Hey, Carlos!” Dude is very chill with his fame and happy in his community. He was kind of surprised to meet someone who didn’t know who he is.

    Different story when I met Sean Penn there.

  171. 171.

    Steeplejack (tablet)

    September 2, 2016 at 11:20 pm

    @redshirt:

    I’m putting you in the Rolodex in case it’s greenlighted.

  172. 172.

    Omnes Omnibus

    September 2, 2016 at 11:20 pm

    @efgoldman: My crew did it with 3-series BMWs. There was a dealer who specialized in that. He made a point of staying friendly with junior officers; I traveled to more than one Oktoberfest with him and his wife providing a champagne brekkie on the train ride down. I brought a VW GTI over.

  173. 173.

    Adam L Silverman

    September 2, 2016 at 11:21 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: Speaking of bunkers, this isn’t going to end well:
    http://arstechnica.com/science/2016/09/bizarre-ant-colony-discovered-in-an-abandoned-polish-nuclear-weapons-bunker/

    Bizarre ant colony discovered in an abandoned Polish nuclear weapons bunker
    Scientists describe workers trapped for years in “a hostile environment in total darkness.”

    ANNALEE NEWITZ – 9/2/2016, 12:45 PM
    For the past several years, a group of researchers has been observing a seemingly impossible wood ant colony living in an abandoned nuclear weapons bunker in Templewo, Poland, near the German border. Completely isolated from the outside world, these members of the species Formica polyctena have created an ant society unlike anything we’ve seen before.

    The Soviets built the bunker during the Cold War to store nuclear weapons, sinking it below ground and planting trees on top as camouflage. Eventually a massive colony of wood ants took up residence in the soil over the bunker. There was just one problem: the ants built their nest directly over a vertical ventilation pipe. When the metal covering on the pipe finally rusted away, it left a dangerous, open hole. Every year when the nest expands, thousands of worker ants fall down the pipe and cannot climb back out. The survivors have nevertheless carried on for years underground, building a nest from soil and maintaining it in typical wood ant fashion. Except, of course, that this situation is far from normal.

  174. 174.

    redshirt

    September 2, 2016 at 11:22 pm

    @Steeplejack (tablet): I’m imagining huge lights and maybe fireworks.

  175. 175.

    Omnes Omnibus

    September 2, 2016 at 11:23 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: I welcome our wood ant overlords?

  176. 176.

    redshirt

    September 2, 2016 at 11:24 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: Cool. We know zombie ants will eventually rise from their current militarized tomb.

  177. 177.

    Omnes Omnibus

    September 2, 2016 at 11:29 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: And TCM is showing Downhill Racer.

  178. 178.

    Mnemosyne

    September 2, 2016 at 11:34 pm

    If we get to pick the taco truck on our corner, I call dibs on these guys.

  179. 179.

    Adam L Silverman

    September 2, 2016 at 11:42 pm

    @efgoldman: Freed!

  180. 180.

    seaboogie

    September 2, 2016 at 11:42 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: Wonder what the ants eat to survive there – probably not tacos. #ThanksHillary (getting that meme started).

  181. 181.

    Adam L Silverman

    September 2, 2016 at 11:43 pm

    @efgoldman: yep!

  182. 182.

    Adam L Silverman

    September 2, 2016 at 11:43 pm

    @seaboogie: Actually if you read the whole article that’s the question the researchers studying the colony are still trying to figure out.

  183. 183.

    Adam L Silverman

    September 2, 2016 at 11:49 pm

    @efgoldman: No problem.

  184. 184.

    Steve in the MEM

    September 2, 2016 at 11:50 pm

    Tacos with have to wait until I get back to Atlanta. It’s all barbecue this weekend!

  185. 185.

    redshirt

    September 2, 2016 at 11:51 pm

    @efgoldman: Cole sucks in almost all regards.

  186. 186.

    Adam L Silverman

    September 2, 2016 at 11:53 pm

    @redshirt: Its Cole’s site. None of us would be here if it wasn’t for him. So, perhaps, cut him a bit of slack.

  187. 187.

    redshirt

    September 2, 2016 at 11:55 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: True enough.

  188. 188.

    seaboogie

    September 2, 2016 at 11:57 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: Hmmm…two things:

    The diversity of life on this planet, and the persistence and evolutionary skills required to survive constantly astonish me, and I am pleased to be alive to bear witness to as much as I do.

    Possible to tie an influx of new beings to sustain a moribund situation – and…mebbe immigration? Quite a reach, I know.

  189. 189.

    seaboogie

    September 3, 2016 at 12:03 am

    @redshirt:

    Cole sucks in almost all regards.

    No. No he does not. Ask Walter. Or Lily or Rosie or Steve. Any other blogs you hang out on? So you have this place, courtesy of one John G Cole. Also, unlike many of us (me included) he owns his shit and gives himself no quarter. So I kindly beseech you, please do not go there again.

  190. 190.

    Adam L Silverman

    September 3, 2016 at 12:04 am

    @seaboogie: Stagnant cultures/societies eventually die.

  191. 191.

    Omnes Omnibus

    September 3, 2016 at 12:05 am

    @redshirt: Christ, what a shitty thing to say. One, he provides this site for us to be dipshits. Two, he organizes charitable shit quite often. Three, he has rescued many animals.

    I think that he is wrong on many issues of international politics. I don’t trust his judgment on any international thing. He was wrong as a GOPer, and simply reversing those views is not a consistent political theory.

    That being said, you are wrong. And insultingly so. I am embarassed for you.

  192. 192.

    Omnes Omnibus

    September 3, 2016 at 12:08 am

    @efgoldman: I try.

  193. 193.

    Omnes Omnibus

    September 3, 2016 at 12:17 am

    @efgoldman: Actually, I am a bit pissed off. Everyone takes some shots at Cole. But redshirt crossed something for me. Cole provides this forum. He does not have to do it. End.

  194. 194.

    rikyrah

    September 3, 2016 at 12:20 am

    @srv: The 272 days ago is a PHUCKING LIE.
    She got grilled by the NABJ and NAHJ (Black and Hispanic )journalists within the last month .
    But, because they didn’t waste time with bullshyt email questions, they pretend that it didn’t happen. ????

  195. 195.

    Omnes Omnibus

    September 3, 2016 at 12:23 am

    @rikyrah: You do know why those don’t matter, right?

    /MSM

  196. 196.

    Adam L Silverman

    September 3, 2016 at 12:27 am

    @rikyrah: @Omnes Omnibus: Also something to do with skin tone…
    https://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1409/25/1409255932552.png

  197. 197.

    Ruckus

    September 3, 2016 at 12:30 am

    @Omnes Omnibus:
    Agreed.
    Most of us can be assholes on occasion even when we try not to. But to be one absolutely without need or reason is just wrong.

  198. 198.

    seaboogie

    September 3, 2016 at 12:43 am

    @Ruckus:

    Most of us can be assholes on occasion even when we try not to.

    My first step:

    “Hello, my nym is seaboogie, and I am an asshole. Well redshirt told me I was, so maybe I was a little bit asshole shy – and maybe just a jerk. Sorry Martin.”

  199. 199.

    Omnes Omnibus

    September 3, 2016 at 12:44 am

    @Ruckus: I am off for the night. Cheers.

  200. 200.

    Ruckus

    September 3, 2016 at 12:45 am

    @raven:
    The first time Bud actually slept with me I woke up in the middle of the night with him snuggling my side. Up until then he slept at my feet and wouldn’t get any closer. I’d had him about 4-5 weeks when he just decided that he could sleep with me. From then on he always slept right next to me. Never had a dog that would do that before. Miss that old bastard. Often wonder if he thought the same thing.

  201. 201.

    Tim Wayne

    September 3, 2016 at 1:44 am

    Looking at that photo, Adam.

    In my family, putting that much crap in your guacamole is a sin. The scantest of additions possible allow the avocado flavor to come through.

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