Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

When we show up, we win.

“Alexa, change the president.”

“In the future, this lab will be a museum. do not touch it.”

Is it irresponsible to speculate? It is irresponsible not to.

Nancy smash is sick of your bullshit.

It is possible to do the right thing without the promise of a cookie.

Petty moves from a petty man.

People are complicated. Love is not.

This is dead girl, live boy, a goat, two wetsuits and a dildo territory.  oh, and pink furry handcuffs.

Not loving this new fraud based economy.

Republicans do not trust women.

Giving in to doom is how authoritarians win.

Baby steps, because the Republican Party is full of angry babies.

This year has been the longest three days of putin’s life.

“Everybody’s entitled to be an idiot.”

Sitting here in limbo waiting for the dice to roll

Roe is not about choice. It is about freedom.

If you’re gonna whine, it’s time to resign!

The press swings at every pitch, we don’t have to.

Accountability, motherfuckers.

Whoever he was, that guy was nuts.

Giving in to doom is how we fail to fight for ourselves & one another.

Republican speaker of the house Mike Johnson is the bland and smiling face of evil.

You don’t get rid of your umbrella while it’s still raining.

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  1. 1.

    James E Powell

    No matter what he says or does, the press/media is going to treat it like nothing special, both sides do it, not as bad as emails, etc. etc. I can’t believe it, but they served collective notice this weekend that they are in full Get Hillary mode and they don’t give a rat’s ass what Trump says or does.

  3. 3.

    Steeplejack (phone)

    Ari Fleischer: “feel the gravity of the day. It was astounding.”

    Brit Hume: “Might be smart move for Trump now to release his medical records.”

    This is why I cannot get on Twitter. I would get sucked into spending 24 hours a day mocking, refudiating and screeching at these pompous assholes.

  6. 6.

    Peale

    You know, that Starfleet policy of allowing anyone in sickbay access to the complete engineering documentation of the Enterprise probably needed revision.

  7. 7.

    Emerald

    It really is astonishing that they have clung to their Both Sides narrative. Here they have an astonishing, historical election year. They could be doing history making reporting. Yet they want to make it just like every other year.
    I suppose it’s just another bit of evidence for their complete lack of imagination.

  10. 10.

    greennotGreen

    That Ari Fleischer tweet is so inspirational…for an entire twitter storm of snark.

    “I wish people today could go back in time to experience the Holocaust. Everyone was so thin!”
    “I wish people today could go back and experience slavery. They stayed fit without ever going to a gym!”
    “I wish people today could go back and experience the Black Death…” etc, etc.

  11. 11.

    Steeplejack (phone)

    @Peale:

    LOL. Don’t get me started. I was not a big fan of the series in its original run (I was out of the country for most of it), but I watched a fair number of the episodes in this BBC marathon to refresh my memory, and, boy, is Starfleet a slipshod outfit. And sexist. Way sexist.

    And that Prime Directive non-interference thing that appears in the later episodes was probably the direct response to the way Kirk and crew ran roughshod over several societies in the early going. Dian Fossey they weren’t.

    One thing that did impress me was the quality of the buffed-up prints. Most of the Star Trek I saw over the years looked like third-generation copies of a used Blockbuster tape. I have a whole new appreciation for Carol Bouchet’s back now.

  12. 12.

    Barb2

    Trump is in his own little world. Apparently the crowd surrounding him fails to point out the few articles from timid reporters who bother to fact check his verbal diarrhea. His fans don’t care.

    An in law is a Trump fan boy. He dutifully repeats Trump’s “wisdom”. I have no idea what actual language Trump uses – because I can’t understand any logical thought behind the words.

    Trump is a holograph from an alien world.

    Have I been reading too many Sci Fi novels?

    Edit – the flip phone still lives. That came from Star Trek.

  13. 13.

    Aleta

    Here we had a 9-11 anniversary on a Sunday. Cable shows must have prepared a slew of programming and talk to have ready as needed today. What a way to mark the anniversary, by dropping 9-11 interviews and photos in favor of HRC with a fever getting into a van.

    And what are the press rules now for which parts of the candidate if infected require immediate disclosure? And If a VP candidate shoots someone in the face, must that be reported immediately?

  16. 16.

    shomi

    I doubt Trump has ever touched Rubble in his life? Besides that thing on his head.

    FU in advance to anyone in the media who gives him yet another pass on that doozy.

  17. 17.

    jl

    @Barb2: I heard a news report about a a local library club for blind people who listen to audio books and discuss. They train themselves to listen to high speed recordings so they can get through the audio books as quickly as possible.
    The piece played an extract from a Philip K. Dick novel, played at very high speed (I guess so we could understand how well their ears were trained).

    It was unsettling. No question, this is the Matrix Mayan Apocalypse, brought to use by Matrix Nostradamus. i guess after Trump is elected, he will make Alex Jones his press secretary, and we’ll have daily harangues about how the robot reptaloid dinosaurs from middle earth run our lives, built and ensouled by communist space alien Satans.

    We are entering a Philip K. Dick Sci Fi novel, for sure.

  20. 20.

    jl

    As for 9/11, I tend to stay to myself and not get too involved in the memorials. The clash between the tragedy of the day, the malfeasance of the Bush II administration in the lead-up, and their dishonest use of the tragedy that lead to the horrible Iraq invasion is just too jarring for me.

  21. 21.

    Doug R

    @Emerald: Yeah. That horse race narrative is so old and worn. They have a chance to finally get completely inside trumpet’s head with some ground breaking work. No wonder their numbers have been dropping for so long.

  22. 22.

    amk

    The Rude Pundit @rudepundit

    Clinton: Here’s a Dr.’s detailed letter and all tax returns
    Trump: Here’s a bullshit note and no taxes
    Media: Why isn’t Hillary transparent?

    1:15 AM – 12 Sep 2016

    3,311 3,311 Retweets
    4,629

  23. 23.

    opiejeanne

    @Steeplejack (phone): I’m on Twitter because it’s better than Facebook right now, for me at least. I signed off of Facebook a week ago and I feel much better. When Twitter gets to be too much, I come here*. Even srv is bearable (sometimes amusing) compared to the filth on Twitter since Deplorable became the byword.

    *Ok, I also come here to see what Omnes has to say about things.

  25. 25.

    jl

    @Aleta: The real horror for Jones is how all that super human evil boils down to the perfidy of local child protection agencies, urban planning, and mass transit. Jones claims that the billionaires meeting in secret in their evil Bilderliminatiberg palace someplace are planning to wipe out 2/3 of humanity, because they are evil. But according to Jones, their plans always boil down to stuff like the BLM wants con men like Cliven Bundy to pay the rent for using all that land to starve his cattle to death, or something similar.

    Jones needs better scary stuff, since people get bored and wander off since his payoff parade of horribles is always so mundane. Syncrhronized traffic lights and subsidized transit fares, and similar shit.

  26. 26.

    jl

    I saw several tweeter twits about HRC’s health, joking that even if she were just a brain in a jar, she would still be preferable to Trump.
    I agree.

    But now I fear the NYT and AP will start a series of in-depth investigations into the theory about clouds and fog and such forth surrounding the issue of whether HRC is just a brain in a jar.

  27. 27.

    greennotGreen

    @Steeplejack (phone): Yes, the original Star Trek was sexist, way sexist, but consider the time. The show was thought to be daring simply because there was a woman on the bridge. And there were crew members who weren’t white (not very many, but they were there.)

    Females make up half of humanity, yet even by the time of Star Trek: TNG, they did not make up anything close to half the bridge crew, and probably not the entire crew, although I certainly haven’t tried to count.

  28. 28.

    ruemara

    Trying to ignore how I feel about today, since, not only am I a NY raised gal, I went to school down there and worked in the area. Sick of the stupidity of the media this year, sick of cishet non-intersectional leftism, highly ill with friends still getting signatures to aid Jill Stein to be on a ballot (really? Could you work that hard to get a damned Green council member for once?), so I’m making plans to do things. If you’re in NorCal or Reno or Phoenix, or Escondido – which I assume is SoCal ish? – a friend of mine will be touring with a Hamilton-esque rock opera called Something Inside Is Broken the story of the Nisenan Tribe during Sutter’s reign in Sacramento. So if you’re feeling like a little history written by the losers with rocking and rapping in the Native tongue, I do recommend it.

  29. 29.

    Steeplejack (phone)

    @opiejeanne:

    Yeah, no doubt. I mentioned that the Khan episode was going to be on a couple of hours ago. They’ve been rerunning the “greatest hits” tonight: Khan, tribbles, evil Spock with goatee, etc.

  32. 32.

    Steeplejack (phone)

    @opiejeanne:

    My Facebook page is the equivalent of that dumpy house on the block with a non-running car parked in front and a dead washing machine on the porch. I think I have it set up to e-mail me only if a close relative dies.

  35. 35.

    Steeplejack (phone)

    @greennotGreen:

    Yes, the original Star Trek was sexist, way sexist, but consider the time.

    Everybody always says that, and in some ways it’s a fair point. But I’m old enough to have watched a lot of ’60s television in real time, and there is plenty in Star Trek that is sexist even by the TV standards of the time. Especially in the sexual context—the way the male officers openly leer at the female yeomen and lieutenants, who are women first—hot young women—and officers or whatever a distant second.

  36. 36.

    opiejeanne

    @Steeplejack (phone): My pages are usually pictures of my garden or my cat, or places where we’ve been. Politics tends to bring out the crazies and i can’t even with the Jill Stein curious.
    I have a few friends on Fb who I have not blocked because of political nonsense, mainly because they rarely post crap; I can count them on one hand, people I love dearly except for their politics. I don’t think any are supporting Trump, but they have been a bit irrational about Hillary and other things recently, and the growing chorus of Friends of Friends is becoming deafening. So, instead of going to the dentist for a mouth guard to prevent tooth grinding, I just stopped going there.

  37. 37.

    opiejeanne

    @Steeplejack (phone): Clothing for females is mini-skirts and bikinis, no matter what planet, as well as on board the Enterprise.
    In reference to Galaxy Quest, Kirk really does manage to get his shirt torn partly or completely off in so many episodes.

  38. 38.

    Betsy

    @greennotGreen: star trek always dumb sexist bs, with female suits built for cleavage, and why didn’t the crew go through the floors on the episode where they became immaterial and could pass through the walls? I could never stand that show. went for the Sunday night spaghetti dinners with friends, winced through the TV part

  42. 42.

    Anne Laurie

    @Aleta:

    What a way to mark the anniversary, by dropping 9-11 interviews and photos in favor of HRC with a fever getting into a van.

    Yeah, that’s why I waited until after midnight to bring back the snark. But then, I’m not a highly-paid news professional.

  47. 47.

    Barb2

    @jl:

    That is an author I’ve not read. The Dune series – father and son and mostly female authors. Looks like I need to add a new author.

    Thanks

  48. 48.

    Barb2

    Philip k Dick – Blade Runner – made into a movie. So I guess I am aware of his work.

    In addition to 44 published novels, Dick wrote approximately 121 short stories, most of which appeared in science fiction magazines during his lifetime.[6] Although Dick spent most of his career as a writer in near-poverty,[7] eleven popular films based on his works have been produced, including Blade Runner, Total Recall, A Scanner Darkly, Minority Report, Paycheck, Next, Screamers, The Adjustment Bureau and Impostor. In 2005, Time magazine named Ubik one of the hundred greatest English-language novels published since 1923.[8] In 2007, Dick became the first science fiction writer to be included in The Library of America series.[9][10][11][12]

  49. 49.

    divF

    @Barb2: I’ve spent most of my life around the Phildickian Universe. From buying many of his works as a teenager as half-price paperbacks from Moe’s books, to being able to see his grade school from my study window today.

  51. 51.

    Patricia Kayden

    @Peale: A President who did nada to prevent 9/11 but was from the right political Party. A President who sent thousands to their death in an unnecessary war.

  54. 54.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    @raven: I believe it’s been fixed, but I use Chrome and it always worked.

    ETA: Pretty slow to post comments though.

  65. 65.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    @?BillinGlendaleCA: I was trying to take a pic of the Milky Way; but I screwed up in 2 ways: first the moon was out, second I thought I’d set my wide angle(12mm/f2) lens to f2 when in fact I’d set it to f22. The fisheye is an f3.5, so not as good, but worked(it’s a sammy lens so it tells me what the lens setting are on the camera).

  66. 66.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    @raven: The nice thing about that beach is it’s 28 miles from Santa Monica and probably about 10 to 15 from Oxnard, so it really does cut down on the light pollution.

  67. 67.

    raven

    @Schlemazel: I really disliked Hope after I saw him in Vietnam and they constructed a huge TV camera platform that blocked the view of hundreds of people. That being said I think he was funny, not Groucho by any means, but funny. He told a joke about the guys back in the states wearing long hair and skirts. There was a big laugh and then he said “What are you laughing about, if you had thought of it you wouldn’t be here”!

  68. 68.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    @Schlemazel: Well, one of the places that I plan on visiting is the San Fernando Mission. Bob and Delores are buried there. Groucho is in the Jewish cemetery behind the Mission.

  69. 69.

    magurakurin

    @greennotGreen: It has to be compared to everything else that was on tv in 1967. Whoopie Goldberg has famously credited Star Trek as the reason she became an entertainer. She said when she saw the show for the first time she ran into the kitchen to tell her mother, “mom, there’s a black lady on tv and she isn’t a maid.”

  74. 74.

    SFAW

    @James E Powell:

    No matter what he says or does, the press/media is going to treat it like nothing special, both sides do it, not as bad as emails, etc. etc.

    Part of the problem is that, were some enterprising soul inclined to catalog, and then call bullshit on, Trump’s lies — just in the last year or 3 — the documentary would run from now until Election Day.

    If the Venn diagram were expanded to include his disgusting utterances, that would be Election Day, but 2020.

    I hope someone restores the public education system in this country. Trump — and Rethugs/wingnuts in general — is/are a result of the decades-long Rethug attempt to destroy it.

  78. 78.

    gogol's wife

    @SFAW:

    He was completely open about that. I believe he would refer to his writers during his routines. He wasn’t about joke-writing, he was about timing and delivery. A master.

  81. 81.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    @greennotGreen:

    Yes, the original Star Trek was sexist, way sexist, but consider the time. The show was thought to be daring simply because there was a woman on the bridge. And there were crew members who weren’t white (not very many, but they were there.)

    In the pilot the second in command was supposed to be a woman and no mini skirts, but that all got changed.

  82. 82.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    Worth noting even if the press did call Trump on his bs – it’s unlikely minds would be changed. Anyone voting for Trump clearly is thinking along some white tribal line and what happens when Trump gets in the Whitehouse is irrelevant to them, just as long as it’s a white guy who says the right things.

  83. 83.

    Ian

    @The Dangerman:
    We have two people running for president who are 69/70. How many old people do you know who have to run around 24/7 kissing babies and shaking hands that won’t get a common cold every now and then? Your arguements(can you call concern link trolling arguements?) are bullshit.

  85. 85.

    SFAW

    @Ian:

    How many old people do you know who have to run around 24/7 kissing babies

    Or, in Corrupt Deadbeat Donnie’s case, playing grab-ass with 24-year-old girls (or, re: Ivanka’s, 34), 7 days a week.

  86. 86.

    Tenar Darell

    @Steeplejack (phone): Heh. That’s why I don’t follow political Twitter, just the arts & history & libraries & museums & local sports & local stuff. I’ll browse the occasional columnist but I keep most (not all because it’s like kudzu) that stuff out of my timeline that way.

  87. 87.

    CONGRATULATIONS!

    I can’t even discuss the subject without becoming enraged. 9/11’s been used by every two-bit con artist in the world to fuck American citizens good and hard, out our tax money, our goodwill, our pensions, our livelihoods.

    Not to mention killing several million random inhabitants of the Middle East. Which I’m sure they appreciate and will remember us for.

  88. 88.

    The Other Chuck

    @SFAW: Also note Barrett’s character actually was in command throughout the pilot, given the captain missing.

    Thing is, for all his vision, Roddenberry was also a creepy sexist drunk, and shockingly so even for his time. He got worse during TNG. He wanted to make the ultimate nemesis of the Federation not the Borg (hadn’t been written yet), not the Romulans, not the Klingons, but … the Ferengi. And he didn’t write them originally as the conniving hyper-capitalists, no … he would go on and on during meetings about the fearsome sexual prowess of Ferengi until he was basically shouted at to shut up and sit down. Roddenberry created the show, but his writers saved it.

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