Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

We know you aren’t a Democrat but since you seem confused let me help you.

I might just take the rest of the day off and do even more nothing than usual.

Donald Jessica Trump found guilty as fuck – May 30, 2024!

Shut up, hissy kitty!

It’s a doggy dog world.

Bogus polls are all they’ve got left. Let’s bury these fuckers at the polls a year from now.

ha ha ha! Nice try weird people.

Fundamental belief of white supremacy: white people are presumed innocent, minorities are presumed guilty.

I’ve spoken to my cat about this, but it doesn’t seem to do any good.

Boeing: repeatedly making the case for high speed rail.

You know it’s bad when the Project 2025 people have to create training videos on “How To Be Normal”.

After dobbs, women are no longer free.

Fuck that bum, let’s go Joe!

…and a burning sense of injustice to juice the soul.

Republicans are the party of chaos and catastrophe.

You come for women, you’re gonna get your ass kicked.

Jack Smith: “Why did you start campaigning in the middle of my investigation?!”

Hi god, it’s us. Thanks a heap, you’re having a great week and it’s only Thursday!

They traffic in fear. it is their only currency. if we are fearful, they are winning.

If you thought you’d already seen people saying the stupidest things possible on the internet, prepare yourselves.

Democrats have delivered the Square Deal, the New Deal, the Fair Deal, and now… the Big Joe Biden Deal.

In short, I come down firmly on all sides of the issue.

Not all heroes wear capes.

Stamping your little feets and demanding that they see how important you are? Not working anymore.

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  1. 1.

    lamh36

    I DON’T TRUST ANYONE ON MSNBC OR NBC when it comes to Donald Trump….NBC has likely been knowing FOR YEARS that Donald Trump, was a sexual predator!

  3. 3.

    Mary G

    I keep thinking that this will not end well, try to reassure myself, then wonder if I’m hiding my head in the sand. And around and around. I thought I knew my country.

  5. 5.

    Chris

    It can’t happen here. Can it?

    Think of it this way: it has happened here. The country was built on the ethnic cleansing of a continent’s worth of people, justified by the racial prejudices of the day. Hitler, in fact, expressed some admiration for that when drawing up his own plans; IIRC, his whole plan for “lebensraum” in the east was at least partly an imitation of American westward expansion.

    It can always happen again. Hopefully, votes permitting, it won’t happen again.

  6. 6.

    Mnemosyne

    @mike in dc:

    I dunno, Donnie has been reaching depths that have been previously unknown to mankind. I’m pretty sure there’s at least one group he hasn’t managed to specifically insult yet, but give him time.

  10. 10.

    Tilda Swinton's Bald Cap

    One theory is that one of the Brietbarters wrote the speech and Trump doesn’t actually understand what he’s dog whistling because he doesn’t know anything about anything.

  11. 11.

    MJS

    I tend to think this is overwrought. There’s a good example of how much traction this shit gets on trial right now in Oregon. Even Trump’s idiot brigade have to provide for themselves and their families. Hard to do that when you’re taking part in armed rebellion.

  12. 12.

    Baud

    We always tell people not to freak out over ISIS, so let’s follow our own advice when it comes to domestic terrorism.

  13. 13.

    ? Martin

    Will point your attention here.

    So if the Russians are not actually changing our election results, what might they be doing? The hacks and probing of election systems generate headlines which can undermine the public’s trust in the electoral process. As CNN noted, the hacks have already caused people to be suspicious about the election. And this feeds exactly into Donald Trump’s irresponsible statements that the vote will be rigged or stolen. In a close race, it is possible that Trump won’t concede and will instead create turmoil and threaten what we take for granted: the peaceful transition of political power between presidencies.

    In short, the Russian hacking of our elections should be seen for what it is: an attempt to manipulate and destabilize the U.S., with an unwitting assist from an irresponsible presidential candidate spewing unsupported claims about rigged elections.

    Trump may be unwitting, but there’s no fucking way that Bannon and Stone are unwitting in this. I’m almost wondering if we won’t have a criminal intervention over this before the election.

  15. 15.

    Ian

    @mike in dc:
    I haven’t seen enough mermaid and myrmidon bashing yet to black out the bingo card. Somewhat surprised the Panamanian people didn’t get bashed by Trump for the Panama papers. That seemed a route he would have gone.

  17. 17.

    Elizabelle

    Disgusting to me that it’s sexual misconduct that is bringing Donald Trump down. Mind you, I don’t think Hillary has actually been behind since the convention. Polling is as ridiculous as Cable. TV.

    I am sad that it’s not the horrible things Trump is saying that caused him more trouble. Kitty-grabbing: a bridge too far.

  21. 21.

    Chris

    Also,

    Yet Trump is priming his supporters to believe the election was stolen from them by a cabal of Jews, blacks, bankers and media

    Listening to Trump invoking actual problems (corporate media, banking problems, international trade’s effect on the working class) only to turn them into a completely counterfactual narrative of anti-white racial oppression, I can only quote the following: “antisemitism is the socialism of imbeciles.”

  22. 22.

    trollhattan

    @lamh36:
    Whoa there, Joe-Boob. Questions need to be asked, why all of a sudden? He’s basically asking where all the damn candy came from immediately after the pinata broke.

  24. 24.

    Elizabelle

    @jk: I agree.

    I think that Joe Scarborough, Mika B, and Chris Matthews should all be fired.

    Soon. And find some better (may I say: “actual”) talent to take their spots. None are irreplaceable.

  25. 25.

    Punchy

    Glad to see Josh Barro’s freaking out over a nothingburger. Dumbass.

    Seriously, these RWNJ clowns talk a good game. Emphasis on TALK. Nov. 9th comes, everyone goes to work, NBA games are played, peeps still talking about the Cubs WS sweep.

  26. 26.

    lamh36

    @jk: did you watch the video?

    She just SAT there and you could see the discomfort on her damn face! And she just FUCKIN’ SAT THERE! If Mika unlike some women, has options…

    But nope, she fuckin’ sat there…Oh and they apparently deleted the video…

  29. 29.

    trollhattan

    Obama’s election/Palin’s loss (and a whole lot of astro-turfing) gave us the tea party.

    Hillary’s election/Trump’s loss will give us…?

  30. 30.

    Van Buren

    @? Martin: If only there was someone real bright who could invent a mechanical, and thus unhackable voting machine. Then we wouldn’t have this problem.
    Oh, wait…

  32. 32.

    JMG

    I wish you people would stop worrying about Morning Joe. Two pro tips. Nobody watches. If you stop, even fewer people will watch.

  35. 35.

    hovercraft

    Melanoma wants a retraction from People magazine for their story about her husband. Perhaps someone needs to give both her and her husband a refresher course on the First Amendment.

  36. 36.

    lamh36

    Tweety at least has moments of clarity, interspersed between the bullshit…today he’s fairly clear…but Joe and Mika…ugh…

    Since Mika has gotten with Joe (both on and off screen) she has become even more insufferable!

  39. 39.

    Mary

    This stuff is way more dangerous in defeat than it is in victory. 8/

    I disagree. Far better that these people lose elections than win them.

  40. 40.

    hovercraft

    @jk:
    After calling Rafael Cruz Joe McCarthy all through the primary, he finally identified the true demagogue, Trump.

    EDIT: Is our media learning.

  43. 43.

    NobodySpecial

    @lamh36: People can take a certain amount of uncomfortable for a piece of ass and a check. Evidently Mika hasn’t hit her wall yet.

  44. 44.

    ? Martin

    @Punchy: Don’t discount it too much:

    The Democratic-leaning automated pollster Public Policy Polling asked North Carolina voters last week a more specific question: “If Hillary Clinton is elected president, do you think it will be because more people voted for her, or because the election results are rigged for her?” This is establishing a more direct causal relationship; it’s not just the election being “rigged,” but also that this rigging will be the deciding factor. In this case, 69 percent of Trump supporters agreed.

    The problem in this case is that there’s no amount of evidence you can produce to get them to back off of this. Countless evidence has been provided to show that in-person fraud isn’t a thing, but because elected officials all over the country have insisted that it’s a major problem, people will believe it. If Trump pulls 40%, what do you do when 25% of the country believe that the election was rigged? That’s a serious problem. Civil wars start over that sort of thing. I’m not saying we will go down that route, but this will not go back to business as usual.

  45. 45.

    SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch

    @redshirt:

    I’m as cool as the other side of the pillow.

    I’m appropriating this excellent line and putting it in reserve for the unknowable but inevitable time I shall need it.

  47. 47.

    Patricia Kayden

    @Tilda Swinton’s Bald Cap: One theory is that one of the Brietbarters wrote the speech and Trump doesn’t actually understand what he’s dog whistling because he doesn’t know anything about anything.

    Well that sure seems Presidential.

  48. 48.

    Ivan X

    @JMG: amen. I know someone — a solid NY Democrat — who’s such a fan that she goes to see him perform with his band some bar. I DON’T GET IT.

  50. 50.

    JMG

    @? Martin: :Let ’em start it. Once the real armed forces show up, they’ll shrivel into a pool of their own bodily wastes like the Bundy Bunch did.

  52. 52.

    DissidentFish

    @Chris: The first group the Nazis had a final solution for was those with congenital disabilities and the mentally ill. They got the idea from American eugenicists (h/t The Gene: An Intimate History by Siddhartha Mukherjee). I was sitting eating bbq at “Smokin’ Willy’s” when that part of the book came up and burst into tears. We must not let them destroy this country.

  53. 53.

    jk

    @Elizabelle: @lamh36:

    After the VP debate, one of the things that pissed me off the most was seeing Chris Matthews complain about Kaine interrupting Pence. Matthews does nothing but interrupt guests and mug for the camera on his stupid show. Morning Joe and Hardball prove Danny Schechter’s point that “the more you watch, the less you know.”

  54. 54.

    lamh36

    @JMG: See I don’t actually watch MJ…but a lot of folk still do, esp poltically obsessed folk.

    But watching MJ is NOT the point. What it shows is the narrative building for the day. Mark Halperin was on and has been pushing this “timing” conspiracy narrative all day and on his and Heileman’s show as well.

    This video, did ya watch, was apparently DELETED from NBC rebroadcast of MJ they do live on Today…you can se why, if you watched the video

  55. 55.

    Patricia Kayden

    @raven: We all haven’t developed your calm, cool demeanor. We’re working on it. It may be more easily attained after November 8th.

    @MJS: Yep. I doubt Trump supporters will do any more revolting than writing angry letters to editors or rants on the internet. I don’t recall a rash of violence after the Communist, Socialist, Muslim Kenyan Witch Doctor won twice so we should be okay. I hope.

  56. 56.

    Lizzy L

    I’ve been thinking about Trump’s psyche — not the psycho-sexual stuff but the narcissism. He craves adulation, vindication, “winning.” He also — it’s been noted extensively — is very steerable, he’ll parrot what he hears from the last person who spoke to him, as long as that person assures him that he is great and he is winning. Bannon and his minions are the RWNJs who actively hate HRC, are racist, anti-Semitic, and they are running Trump’s game. They are using him for their own agenda, and he’s wallowing in it because they are assuring him that he’s king of the world. The “sacrifce” language in the speech today is not Trump, it’s Bannon & Co. appealing to the Christianists.

    Does he do the debate Wednesday night? What do y’all think? I think they talk him into it.

  58. 58.

    SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch

    @lamh36:

    Mika looks like someone just died. Seriously, another 10 seconds and she would have been sobbing. (I cannot blame her, by the way.)

  59. 59.

    ? Martin

    @JMG: It doesn’t work that way. These people simply radicalize in other ways. They distrust government in even more ways because after believing the election was stolen they then believe they were denied justice. They’ll go all-in on the voter suppression stuff. They’ll start intimidating voters directly. They’ll drive local elections in radical directions. It unravels so badly. There’s a pattern of it in other countries – it’s ugly stuff, and it’ll all be because Republicans were so craven that they were willing to sell out democracy in order to gain power.

  61. 61.

    jl

    Won’t be pleasant if Trump sics his fanatics on the polls, but people volunteering for GOTV can help.
    Voter registration, phone banking, getting people to polls, volunteering for GOTV scut work like organizing lists and precinct maps.

    Irrefutable evidence of massive popular rejection of Trump and anyone who carried his bags (hey there, GOP down ticket, how you doin’?) will help both win the election and keep things under control after the election.

    Past a certain tipping point of massive popular rejection, only a very small minority of white bigots will be willing to say they voted for Trump. A lot of places where Trump got, say, 35 percent, of the vote, you won’t find one in ten people willing to admit it. That will help a lot with the fall out.

    Edit: Sadly, that will leave far more than enough people to make Trump a mint if he decides to make some dough off of his toxic nonsense with the new Trump News Network, but will just be a relatively small group of die hard conspiracy theorists and racists and xenophobes.

  63. 63.

    Mary G

    Tyler Hansen
    ‏@tjhansen

    Every time you get depressed knowing this world has a Donald Trump, stop and remember it also has a Michelle Obama. ????

  64. 64.

    Patricia Kayden

    @? Martin: What percentage of the population believes that President Obama only won because his two elections were rigged? How many believe that he’s not even eligible to be President because he was born in Kenya? How many believe that he’s a Muslim even though he’s a self-identified Christian Protestant?

    Not sure if it really matters if 25% of the population is delusional about why Secretary Clinton whooped Trump’s behind on November 8th. They can just keep living in their alternate reality where facts don’t matter.

  65. 65.

    NotMax

    @Van Buren

    Still problematic.

    True story: Voted in an election once (not for political office, a local issue special election) on the old mechanical flip the lever machines, and the results were declared invalid because it turned out some bonehead had failed to check and verify that all the machines were reset to zero beforehand.

  66. 66.

    Percysowner

    @jk: I never watch Morning Joe, so I can’t speak to that. Nothing would make me happier than for MSNBC to announce that after all his years of service, Chris Matthews has decided he wants to lessen his work load and move to weekend shows only. Then announce that Joy Reid will be taking over his slot. She has been on fire this election. It won’t happen, but it’s my dream.

  68. 68.

    Feebog

    Nobody on the left coast pays any attention to Moanin Joe. It starts at 3:00 a.m. In the morning for dogs sake.

  70. 70.

    SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch

    @Punchy:

    peeps still talking about the Cubs WS sweep.

    I love you for your aspirational messaging. I hate you for jinxing the Cubbies.

  71. 71.

    Kathleen

    @jk: About 98% of broadcast media should fall in line after them. Broadcast media have displayed their willingness to coddle a candidate who is supported by Nazis and the Ku Klux Klan. I find that sobering though not surprising.

  72. 72.

    Chris

    @DissidentFish:

    And one of the earliest fascist movements, according to Paxton at least, was the Ku Klux Klan. We’re precursors at this stuff.

    @shomi:

    I knew you were an A-hole, but I didn’t know you were 100% a dick.

  73. 73.

    Jeffro

    Whether this stuff is overwrought or on-point, the rhetoric is getting heated and Trump’s in particular is crossing lines we haven’t crossed in some time, if ever. The media, Dem officials, the President himself: all of them ought to be pushing Ryan, McConnell, and McCain to come out publicly and vouch that our elections are fair, and that they will accept the outcome.

    They & the GOP foisted this clown upon the nation as an actual, honest-to-goodness presidential nominee: since Hillz is doing the hard work of taking him out, the least they could do is ensure that he doesn’t set the country on fire when he goes down to defeat.

  74. 74.

    JPL

    @raven: When a presidential candidate gives a Hitler type of speech today, just keep calm is not the right response.. just sayin

  78. 78.

    jk

    @hovercraft:

    I wish I had the resources to launch Chris Matthews, Joe and Mika, Hannity, O’Reilly, Megyn Kelly, Mark Halperin, Howie Kurtz, and the idiots from FNC’s the Five into the farthest reaches of the Milky Way galaxy.

  79. 79.

    Kathleen

    @Elizabelle: They can’t be fired. They’re doing what they’re paid to do. Shill for bigots, demean Democrats and good government, and pander to fear and hatred. The mission statement for today’s broadcast media.

  80. 80.

    SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch

    @lamh36:

    But nope, she fuckin’ sat there…

    But she did a lot more than just fuckin’ sit there — I don’t think she was capable of speaking at that moment. She really looked as though someone had just murdered was in the process of murdering her pet rabbit.

  87. 87.

    Splitting Image

    Pessimism says: It can happen here. Definitely. (As Chris says above, it actually has.)

    Optimism says: It won’t.

    I understand what a lot of people have been saying about the danger that a more competent politician may take over Trump’s message and ride it to victory next time, but I’m not sure there is such a person out there. At least ten people who had been puffed up by Fox et al. as The Next One were revealed to be paper tigers in the past year. Cruz, Christie, Paul, Rubio and the rest are all damaged goods. It’s very revealing that people are talking about Mike Pence and Paul Ryan extricating themselves from this mess and becoming viable candidates in 2020. That’s nearly as desperate as hoping Rudy Giuliani would take another run at it in 2012.

    The GOP won the governorships if something like 10 states in 2010 and if they had bothered trying to run them well, they would have been sitting pretty this year and in good shape for the next round. As it is, none of their “front bench” had any achievements that they were willing to speak of in front of a non-Republican audience. Same with their Senators. Choosing to obstruct everything Obama was trying to do meant that none of the Senators who ran this year had done much of anything. Ted Cruz was best known for shutting the government down.

    The GOP won’t be in any better shape in 2020 unless somebody, somewhere, starts doing something constructive, but if they do elect a governor somewhere who will at least try to run his state properly, the Trump voters will disown him. They’re stuck.

  88. 88.

    jl

    @lamh36: That show disgusts me, I can’t watch it. I think Mornin’ Joe has a touch of the Trump Syndrome. He is a bully, and tries to shout people down when he is contradicted. And Mika has similar tics that make her a bad journalist (assuming journalism of some sort is what they are trying to do). But then I think a lot of the corporate news media divas and pundits are bonkers, or have some serious personality disorder, and that goes for both genders. It is such a high power high money, corrupt corporate shit show, only the bizarre can survive and thrive. But, that is just my opinion.

  89. 89.

    hovercraft

    @lamh36:
    Everyone on the show this morning pushed back on Joke, even Halpern, though he was gentle about it. Mika sat there pretty much not engaging. Barnicle, Geist, Confessiori, and all the various panelists kept explaining the women’s reasons for the timing, but he just kept insisting it’s an opo dump. He is a Clinton hater through and through, so he’s convinced that Trump is going to pick himself back up and become competitive again.

  90. 90.

    ? Martin

    @Patricia Kayden:

    What percentage of the population believes that President Obama only won because his two elections were rigged?

    Doesn’t matter. You didn’t have elected officials or the opposing candidate validating that kind of thinking. Nobody in authority was willing to affirm that the elections were rigged. Trump is doing that very thing. Just look at how Trump alone has changed the rhetoric and behavior of people in this country.

  91. 91.

    Patricia Kayden

    @Feebog: Y’all are lucky. Love how California has shut out Republicans from having any power at the state level. ***standing ovation***

  92. 92.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    @? Martin: But they already thought the elections in 2008 and 2012 were rigged for the Kenyan. Life went on then. Is there a breaking point? Maybe.

  94. 94.

    lamh36

    @SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch: True…but I’m just reminded of all the DIFFERENT times Mika has just sat there and either smirked or made faces…and then actually said SOMETHING.

    This one time when you could SEE her discomfort, she said NOTHING.

    Mika wrote a fuqn’ book about workplace inequality for women vs men…ugh

    Oh and the fact that they deleted that segment from the Today re-broadcast just goes to show ya …they know that was bullshit.

    But hey like my first comment said, I don’t trust MSNBC or NBC…cause they have to had KNOWN that Trump was a big ole sexual predator, but they sat on it…fuq em all

  95. 95.

    Turgidson

    @hovercraft:

    Perhaps someone needs to give both her and her husband a refresher course on the First Amendment.

    That assumes either of them ever had the introductory course in the first place.

    Trump quite clearly took the “First Amendment For Whiny Right Wing Dipshits” course, which states that the First Amendment was intended to allow hard-workin’, God-fearin’ ‘Mericans to say ni*CLANG* and various other taunts, epithets and general stupidity without being judged or penalized monetarily for it. In this interpretation, the government should step in to protect these brave, unPC snowflakes who tell it like it is from librul persecution.

  96. 96.

    Schlemazel

    @JMG:
    The Army is forbidden by the Constitution from operating withing the boarders of the US against US citizens, so no, that will not save us.

  98. 98.

    lamh36

    @hovercraft: Halperin pushed back in the AM, but by the PM show with Heilemen, he got his walking orders and pushed the ‘timing” issue by comparing the Trump response to the Clinton campaign response in the 90s…

    But no one is surprised halperin is a dick…

  99. 99.

    Punchy

    @? Martin: Im discounting it. No one is going to their main street with guns ablazin. At worst, I foresee local or state govts attempt nullification bullshit, but there’ll be no violence or serious threats.

  100. 100.

    SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch

    @redshirt:

    Good Morning, Football is a way better

    Still not as good as Rikyrah’s matutinal greetings. I usually don’t see the overnight/early morning threads until at least 10:00 a.m., but Rikyrah always cheers me right up.

  101. 101.

    Patricia Kayden

    @? Martin: I understand your point but I recall after the election Romney coming out and claiming that blahs voted for President Obama because they got benefits from doing so (can’t remember exactly what those benefits were).

    I guess my point is that Republicans always come up with excuses for why Democrats beat them in presidential elections. Trump pushing the “if I lose it’s because the election was rigged” doesn’t seem like anything different than what Republicans have been saying for years, i.e., advocating voter I.D. laws to stop the wrong people from voting illegally.

  102. 102.

    ? Martin

    @BillinGlendaleCA: Again, nobody validated that claim. Today someone is. Gore (thankfully) didn’t validate the claims of the left that the 2000 election was stolen, nor did other elected officials. They didn’t like the results, and they criticized the process, but they didn’t outwardly declare that the election was stolen.

    Validating ideas is much more powerful than people realize. If Trump continues with this assertion, can you trust Republicans on board with him to push back? How can they when half or more of them have been saying that election fraud is a serious problem – and are saying that with increasing volume. Democrats can’t be the ones to quiet this any more than Bush could have quieted Democrats in 2000. It’s got to come from trusted voices. Ryan is the most likely to be the one to do it, if he himself has any credibility with Trump voters by the time this is over.

  105. 105.

    sukabi

    @Mary: well sure, no one wants a drumpf presidency… think what is meant is that the drumphenstein will start acting out in a “burn it all down” snit… also expect violence against anyone that is perceived to be not their klan to increase…

    More dangerous.

  106. 106.

    misterpuff

    Jeebus! Tweety floating “Clinton will win by default. No mandate.” Bullshit! Hillary will be giving Amurican Fatuousism a kick in the ass. That’s a Mandate. Stupidity and racism defeated – at least for four years.

  107. 107.

    JMG

    @Schlemazel: The President can and has nationalized the National Guard to enforce the law. The 101st Airborne went to Little Rock in 1957. Then there’s the actions Lincoln took. In times of sedition, the government can and will do as it sees fit.

  108. 108.

    Peale

    Since I’m not going to be able to post my thoughts elsewhere, I’ll put them here. I have no idea what it’s like to live under a monarchy like Thailand’s, so it is difficult for me to empathize with the expressions of grief from my Thai friends today. But jeeze…the crown prince soon to be king seems like such a bad replacement. I know I can’t really ask what they think of him. That would be considered considered out of bounds even on a good day. I guess if I were a lawyer specializing in lese-majeste defense, I’d be happy. It’s easy to clamp down on disrespect when the king doesn’t behave like a drunken sailor. But this ones behavior seems designed to make looking away difficult.

  110. 110.

    JordanRules

    @JPL: @JPL:

    When a presidential candidate gives a Hitler type of speech today, just keep calm is not the right response.. just sayin

    Amen!

  111. 111.

    jk

    @Kathleen:

    “About 98% of broadcast media should fall in line after them.” I second your sentiments. The only bright spots have been Kurt Eichenwald and David Fahrenthold and kudos to all of the Republican newspapers that have had the good sense to endorse Hillary over this lunatic.

    @Percysowner: You’re smart not to watch Morning Joe.

    When I look at the confederacy of dunces polluting CNN, MSNBC, and FNC, I wish that someone could have had the foresight to preserve DNA from Walter Cronkite, Eric Severeid, Howard K. Smith, John Chancellor, Edwin Newman, Peter Jennings, and Frank Reynolds.

  112. 112.

    hovercraft

    @jk:
    Jonathan Karl, Andrea Mitchell, Ron Fournier. I’ll think of more but yes I’d pony up a couple of dollars for that one way mission.

  113. 113.

    Bobby Thomson

    When fascism comes to America, it will be wearing an ill-fitting suit and gaudy spray tan and grabbing a pussy.

  116. 116.

    Bobby Thomson

    By the way, I don’t remember when Trump Hitler comparisons were ever overwrought, other than in the minds of the usual pearl clutching suspects.

  117. 117.

    Calouste

    @Patricia Kayden: The difference compared to 2008 and 2012 is not going to be that someone who is not a white man wins again, the difference is going to be that a full-bore fascist is going to lose rather than an establishment Republican.

  119. 119.

    Splitting Image

    @jk:

    I wish I had the resources to launch Chris Matthews, Joe and Mika, Hannity, O’Reilly, Megyn Kelly, Mark Halperin, Howie Kurtz, and the idiots from FNC’s the Five into the farthest reaches of the Milky Way galaxy.

    Um, we are in the farthest reaches of the Milky Way galaxy. Almost. The black hole is in the centre. If you want them painfully ripped apart by unbelievably powerful gravitational forces, that’s the place to send them. Their component atoms would be stuck there until the black hole evaporates, which would be long enough to train some competent replacements.

  120. 120.

    ? Martin

    @Patricia Kayden:

    @? Martin: I understand your point but I recall after the election Romney coming out and claiming that blahs voted for President Obama because they got benefits from doing so (can’t remember exactly what those benefits were).

    Sure, but that doesn’t mean the election was rigged. It just means that he believes that those voters made a bad choice. People need to fundamentally trust that the democratic processes that surround us are sound, and elected officials, particularly those from your own party, are the best voice to defend those processes. That’s at risk of breaking down this year. Look at what happens when African Americans believe that they will be targeted by police – they stop calling the police even to report crimes they are witnessing. They remove themselves from a critical democratic component. When women believe they will be attacked for reporting a sexual assault, they stop reporting sexual assaults. If they don’t find justice, they question other parts of the justice system. These are all parallel behaviors. They are all social breakdowns.

  121. 121.

    SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch

    @Mary G:

    Every time you get depressed knowing this world has a Donald Trump, stop and remember it also has a Michelle Obama.

    ♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️

  122. 122.

    lamh36

    Trump told 14-year-old girl he’d be dating her soon

    A day after scandal erupted over a questionable comment Donald Trump made to a 10-year-old girl in 1992, a new report shows he made a similar comment to a 14-year-old girl around the same time.

    According to a Chicago Tribune wire from December 1992, Trump approached a youth choir group outside the then-Trump-owned Plaza Hotel in Manhattan and engaged the group in conversation.

    Trump asked one of the girls her age, and when she said she was 14, Trump replied, “Wow! Just think—in a couple of years I’ll be dating you.”

  123. 123.

    jl

    @Patricia Kayden:

    ” Love how California has shut out Republicans from having any power at the state level. ”

    You can thank the CA GOP for that. They did it to themselves. I think there are a number of moderate Arnold-style GOPers around CA in city and county government. But they have a hard time moving up. The general electorate doesn’t trust them to be moderate and tolerant, and the CA GOP seems to hate moderate GOPers (who will responsibly and honestly try to run a government with good faith effort) with the heat a billion supernovas. Hates them far more than Dems or liberals. Arnold can come back to CA and have good time public events with Jerry Brown and talk about the common initiatives they are working on (that Arnold started, or proposed, and Brown is doing) like renewable energy, bullet train, state health care reform. I think the standard issue reactionary CA GOPer pol would lose control and try to deck Arnold (which is probably not a good idea, but I think they would lose it and try).

  124. 124.

    Origuy

    @Splitting Image:

    If you want them painfully ripped apart by unbelievably powerful gravitational forces, that’s the place to send them.

    Some Galactic Environmental Protection Agency would be on us for pollution.

  126. 126.

    Schlemazel

    @JMG:
    Yes, but that is not the Army and the close air support may not be all it could be (pun intended). I would assume the morans battalions would break up into 3-4 person teams pretty quickly and focus on terrorism rather than fight en force.

  127. 127.

    jk

    @hovercraft:

    I wish I could get a kickstarter or go fund me campaign set up for this purpose.

    @Splitting Image:

    I defer to your scientific expertise. I wish we could remove these malignant carcinogens from our airwaves because they’ve created more than enough pollution.

  128. 128.

    Kay

    @lamh36:

    The “Know Your Value” thing looks like it was more about promoting Mika’s personal brand and that show than anything for women.

    I know it is not an easy task to put yourself out there, but I assure you that the exercise is one that will help you grow your confidence from the inside out.
    Today we announced the three AMAZING finalists for the first “Grow Your Value” bonus competition. These women — who put themselves out there in a one minute pitch — will attend the Johnson & Johnson Human Performance Institute in Orlando, FL and train with coaches, receiving tools and resources for professional and personal transformations. On April 10, they will showcase their newfound skills and confidence onstage and under the lights to compete for a $10,000 bonus. The “Grow Your Value” bonus competition drives home the message that it is important for women to both learn their value and communicate it effectively. This will be a profound journey that we will take with our finalists, learning from them along the way.

    They set it up like a reality tv show. So the women devote 6 or so months to competing in this thing for “a chance” at $10,000. They literally would be better off getting a part time job.

    I’m not that worried about Donald Trump’s army massing after the election and rounding us all up. I’m worried that this entire country seems to be riddled with rip-offs and scams, and so many of them are run or backed by people who make millions of dollars.

    It’s like no one knows how to make money anymore without some bullshit self- branding scheme. It’s disgusting. Can she just be a rich person with a regular charity? Does she have to turn it into some ridiculous waste of time for these people that mostly benefits her?

    We’re surrounded by Donald Trumps. They’re everywhere.

  131. 131.

    SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch

    @sukabi:

    That is extremely plausible. Extremely. I’m now going to go back and watch the clip with that in mind.

    ETA: I just did. She is SUFFERING. My heart aches for her.

  132. 132.

    lamh36

    ‏@usweekly 1m1 minute ago
    Billy Bush hires a lawyer amid the #TrumpTapes scandal and his exit from NBC

    Yeah, I bet he is…

  134. 134.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    MSNBC, which regularly airs all of Trump’s bilge spew, just cut away from PBO to let Chris Hayes try to communicate with Trump marble head Steve Cortes.

  135. 135.

    Credenzal Jocularity

    It seems inconceivable that Animal Mother Trumper would let FLOTUS express an opinion about his behavior without a Low Road response.

  136. 136.

    lamh36

    @sukabi: right, and if allegations are true and he also her off-set mate, I’d hope she’s thinking REALLY hard about the dude she’s currently “with”

  140. 140.

    Peale

    @sukabi: well, Trump worked there. And I really don’t think Fox News is the only retrograde old boys workplace in the infotainment industry.

  142. 142.

    Kay

    @Credenzal Jocularity:

    Michelle Obama was amazing. She just exudes integrity. Such a contrast from this motley collection of grifters and rip-offs.

    I am so, so tired of “branding”. Obama’s voice was shaking she feels so strongly about this. It was the opposite of “branding”- this is what she believes. Extraordinary because she’s usually so disciplined and self-controlled. She doesn’t blab constantly so when she speaks people listen to her.

  144. 144.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch: @lamh36: They cut back to Obama at the end of what soundsd like a pretty good riff pointing out that people like Portman made the Republican party became what it is, and Trump, as is his way with buildings, came by and slapped his name on something that was already there.

    Obama. Is. Pissed.

  147. 147.

    Pest Bog Mummy, Frakensteinbeck

    @? Martin:
    Acorn. Republican office-holders have been validating their constituency’s belief that Democrats steal elections for at least 8 years, and probably much longer. Like the racism and misogyny, the only thing actually different about Trump is that he’s shoving it in the face of non-conservatives in an undeniable way. Trump is not endangering our democracy. He’s the result of a mass of deplorables insisting they won’t be quiet anymore. If our democracy is in danger, it’s from an ongoing trend.

  148. 148.

    Kay

    I’m just sort of wondering- were the Trump family planning on suing everyone who criticizes them when they pictured their life in the White House?

    Is that what the plan was? They planned to bully an entire country? Christ almighty no one reined these people in at any time in their lives? No one ever said “no”?

    Trump’s army are just like Trump. There won’t be any war. They’ll scream and yell and threaten to sue everyone.

  149. 149.

    Enhanced Voting Techinques

    Oh for god’s sake. The Nazis: Hitler, Goering, those storm troopers, they were all combat vets from one of the nastiest wars in modern history and Germany was in low level civil war since the last year of WWI.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bavarian_Soviet_Republic

    A bunch of fat and dumb middle class wankers aren’t the same how many arm bands they wear.

  150. 150.

    jk

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    Name your poison. At any given time on CNN, you could be subjected to Jeffrey Lord, Corey Lewandowksi, Scottie Nell Hughes, Kayleigh McEnany, or Katrina Pierson. Talk about a basket of deplorables. I hope some of these deadenders can be successfully deprogrammed after the election as is the case with former Scientologist or Moonies.

  152. 152.

    lamh36

    UGH!!!

    “SHOULD WE TRUMP THEM”

    This is why FLOTUS was SOOOO passionate about this…the fact that THIS guy could be President is enough to seep into any bit of our cultural identity…and makes rape culture normalized…

  155. 155.

    Splitting Image

    @lamh36:

    OMG!!! Look at Mika’s face!!!

    @HouseOfMichele
    .@JoeNBC & @MSNBC appear to have deleted this video from @Morning_Joe when Joe proclaimed there’s a sexual assault conspiracy.

    That was uncomfortable to watch. Mika looks like she has something to say and doesn’t know how to say it.

    Although it was hilarious listening to Scarborough call himself a skeptic. A healthy dose of skepticism would have kept him off of the Trump train when it mattered.

  156. 156.

    Kathleen

    @jk: Yes. Print media have provided much better coverage (except for the NYT). Both of those reporters should win Pulitzer Prizes. Broadcast media, with the exception of a very few such as Joy Ann Reid and Soledad O’Brien and perhaps a couple more.

  157. 157.

    Lit3Bolt

    Let’s not forget Greenwald and Assange’s role in Trump as well.

    They are Russian agents, unwitting or not. Just the same as Trump and his staff are now.

    I have a father-in-law who says he’s voting against Hillary because “she will bring socialism to this country.” In the meantime, Russian agents run amok in the Republican party apparatus and media, and yet are ignored.

    Wikileaks is a Chinese and Russian misinformation front. Snowden was a true whistleblower, but one who was quickly seized and co-opted by true Russian/Chinese agents and “journalists.”

    They want the United States to fall.

    Never forget that.

  158. 158.

    Truegster

    Some of y’all can chuckle it up, but I live in Alex Jones open carry country. We’re turning into Florida down here, check the Austin news. Alex Jones on the radio while the traffic is making people have road rage. Austin is getting really hostile, no joke. I’m not putting a Hillary sticker on for a good reason.

  160. 160.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @Lit3Bolt: I have a father-in-law who says he’s voting against Hillary because “she will bring socialism to this country.”

    hit him back with, Like social security and medicare? (I say that as someone who mostly silently stews when relatives start with crazy shit)

  161. 161.

    skerry

    From tonight’s Cincinnati rally

    Holly BaileyVerified account
    ‏@hollybdc
    Trump muses about a Clinton/China visit: “If she goes down in Tiananmen Square they’ll just leave her there. They’re tough people”

    I’m not sure I know what that even means.

  162. 162.

    Jesse

    @Schlemazel: We’d have to start parsing statutes, but I’m fairly sure the Army can be called out to suppress armed insurrection. If nothing else, Presidents can “federalize” the National Guard. Enforcement of Brown v. Board is a salient precedent.

    Which is to say, I’m confident that armed bigots will not be allowed to run around burning down Federal buildings, even if they actually get off their asses and try.

  165. 165.

    jl

    The problem is that there is hard core of the Trump fan base that is either cynically depraved in way that has not often been seen in US politics (edit:probably the white nationalists who he has tolerated, like David Duke), or totally nuts, or both (which is also an option). Saw a headline from NewsMax (think that is what it is called) that says Ivanka and her (I suppose ‘Jewish’ should go here) husband Jared Kushner are part of the global insider conspiracy to bring down Trump.

    So, yeah, people could get hurt with this toxic brew of nonsense, since some Trump fans seem simply out-of-it nuts and over the edge.
    Beside contributing and volunteering for GOTV, I guess write any media outlet that puts up with lies and nutso conspiracy theories, they need to call them what they are, and do so clearly.

  167. 167.

    sigaba

    @Lit3Bolt:

    Let’s not forget Greenwald and Assange’s role in Trump as well.

    They are Russian agents, unwitting or not.

    They buried John Reed in the Kremlin…

  168. 168.

    Kay

    “21,000 people, can you believe this,” Trump says, in a 17,500-seat arena in Cincinnati that is not full.

    Lying. As usual. The whole “fire marshal” thing is a lie. He says it so he can trick the dopes in the hall into thinking there are thousands outside.

  169. 169.

    Fair Economist

    @Chris:

    And one of the earliest fascist movements, according to Paxton at least, was the Ku Klux Klan. We’re precursors at this stuff.

    The Southern fascist movement was essentially the anti-Reconstruction movement. The KKK was their brownshirts, the goons to do things they couldn’t get the official government to do – sometimes because they were so bad, sometimes because they didn’t have the government yet. And yes, they pretty much laid out the format followed later.

  171. 171.

    jl

    And I heard Limbaugh hiss out with disgust that liberals think that consent is a standard that is important in relationships between people. Let alone rape and sexual assault, think about what an attitude like that says about behavior in society, what people are allowed to do to each other, what government is allowed to wrt to reproductive freedom, freedom of speech and debate, economic exploitation, criminal justice. It is chilling.

    Fascism is not to strong a word for where that leads. What does your crummy little consent mean for anything when it contradicts the National Will? It means nothing. So, whoever is deemed to embody that National Will can take your time, your property, your ability to speak and protest, your vote, your family, your body, your life, anything.

    But, then, Limbaugh claims he is just an comedian, an entertainer.

  172. 172.

    Kay

    Clinton+7 in Fox poll–Democrats+6 in the generic ballot

    7 is a blow-out and we need a blow out or we will be stuck with the Trumps for years- probably decades for the grown children. They’ll be spreading this poison around for decades and we’ll all have to put up with them.

    You can tell they think they found the best scam ever. They probably had no idea how godammned easy it was going to be to thoroughly trounce the Republican Party. They must think they died and went to heaven. This is easier than Trump University.

  174. 174.

    Fair Economist

    @jl:

    I think there are a number of moderate Arnold-style GOPers around CA in city and county government. But they have a hard time moving up. The general electorate doesn’t trust them to be moderate and tolerant

    Absolutely. I was very seriously considering Swearengin for Lieutenant Governor last election since Newsom has behavior issues. She is doing a good job in Fresno AFAICT. But I just can’t trust Republicans anymore.

  176. 176.

    cthulhu

    @Punchy:

    Glad to see Josh Barro’s freaking out over a nothingburger. Dumbass.

    If by nothingburger, you mean the chance of Trump being elected, ok sure. But his point is that if Trump were elected, he’s talking about what kind of abuses he could get away with given a compliant GOP-controlled Congress (which, if he were elected would also likely be the case). It is not as if indefinite confinement of “enemies” is isn’t part of our recent past (Japanese internment, Guantanamo).

    But I agree that the vast majority of these yahoos don’t have it in them to actually start a revolution. Still, I think there may be isolated incidents and do suspect a continuing uptick in hate crimes and other acting out.

  179. 179.

    jk

    @skerry:

    I don’t think Trump knows what the Hell he means half the time he’s speaking. His speeches are free association, stream of consciousness bullshit.

  181. 181.

    Schlemazel

    @Jesse:
    Burn down? Probably not but I bet a Ryder truck with fertilizer and fuel oil can replicate the Murrah Building event more than a few times.

    Just because the morans in Oregon thought they could fight a set piece battle against the Feds does not mean other morans are also that stupid.

  186. 186.

    Joel

    @? Martin: the fact that people don’t even flinch at “Trump that Bitch” chants at a rally — and never did. That shit right there is beyond the pale, and that’s without even considering how Trump *started* his campaign.

  187. 187.

    a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)

    @Kay: At an event with a GOP County chair who ordered an appeal to the 6th Circuit of a federal district court judge’s order that all the votes be counted in accordance with OH law in a judicial election. Because the GOP candidate lost (by a small margin) when the votes were counted correctly. Two years and millions of taxpayer dollars later, the GOP “winner” had finally been ruled to have lost, because provisional votes were counted appropriately. I will never forgive that asshole for that.

  189. 189.

    Credenzal Jocularity

    @Kay: All you say is true. And our outrage will not be feigned when it happens.

    It’s just such an obvious blunder to lash out at her, and perhaps throw in some alt-right codespeak for whatever the latest most offensive speculation is that I can’t see him not doing it.

    It’s Cleek’s Law meeting Trump’s Razor.

  190. 190.

    debbie

    I just listened to Michelle Obama’s NH speech. I thought her convention speech was the best, but she really topped herself. She’s even better than the
    President!

  191. 191.

    Poopyman

    @Shana:

    But didn’t the National Guard shoot those students at Kent State? Aren’t they a part of the US military?

    Not really. They are individual states’ assets. The Ohio governor had called out the ill-trained, ill-equipped Ohio National Guard.

  192. 192.

    p.a.

    Back from phonebanking N.H. for HRC & Maggie Hassan. Usual cellphone-era result: few actual contacts. I was the only male vol. I was not surprised.

    With all the news of tRump/Putin cooperation/infiltration Bob in Portland has been notable by his absence. No worries; visual proof he’s fine on my tumblr page- first item. (p.a. link)

  193. 193.

    agorabum

    We had years of Republicans whining about their rights and liberties and government overreach and jackbooted thugs with black helicopters – helping to lead to one right wing nutjob to blow up the OKC federal building – but then as soon as the Republicans were in charge, they all applauded when Cheney and Rumsfeld started torturing muslims.

    I have zero doubt that they’d applaud torture and racial violence again.

  195. 195.

    FlipYrWhig

    @skerry: I kind of think it means that if Hillary Clinton gets woozy and faints while visiting China, someone will drive a tank over her.

  196. 196.

    Schlemazel

    @Shana:
    The National Guard belongs to the individual States, the Army to the POTUS. They can be nationalized & sent to Iraq but only the Governor can send them to patrol the streets.* Caveat, the POTUS can nationalize them ala Ike and Little Rock but there are legal hurdles. OTOH, that all changed in 06 with a change to the law that might allow the Marines/Army/Ait Force to be sent suppress rebellion (something the founders would have been shocked & very much against!).

    But i do not expect these chick shit ranger wannabes to confront the military head on, not many of them are that stupid. I would expect a terrorist operation. Blow up Federal buildings, ambush FBI, DEA, BAFT agents (letter carriers? anyone remember G. Gordon suggesting shooting census workers and letter carriers?) and assassination of politicians & judges they don’t like. Not much the Army is going to do about that

  197. 197.

    Darrin Ziliak (formerly glocksman)

    @Jesse:

    Which is to say, I’m confident that armed bigots will not be allowed to run around burning down Federal buildings, even if they actually get off their asses and try.

    I’m slightly concerned about the possibility of mass rebellion, but not too concerned because I’d say 99% of Trump’s followers are just that – followers.
    They need a charismatic leader to call them to arms, and unless DJT wants to be arrested and charged with sedition, he won’t call for armed rebellion.

    I am more worried about McVeigh style ‘lone wolves’ than I am anything else at this point.

    Though I imagine that if Trump was stupid enough to call a rebellion, 90% of his followers are dumb enough to attack the Federal government by way of pipe-bombing Federal Express trucks.

  198. 198.

    scav

    @John Weiss: As though shomi or Trump see any other person as distinct from a target of their distain or sexual moves. No hope of change, it’s their entire melded personality / shtick.

  199. 199.

    Schlemazel

    @John Weiss:
    next tell the sky not to be blue, the sun not to rise in the East and Obama not to be awesome. None of the 4 of those know how to be anything else.

  200. 200.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    via Cole’s twitter

    lowkell
    ‏@ lowkell
    Dem House campaign in Virginia alerts law enforcement re: armed Trump supporter outside their HQ in Fluvanna

  202. 202.

    PhoenixRising

    @Kay: I thought I was past being enraged by the Creamsicle Menace. But now…the next old dude in a red cap better be fit enough to outrun me or he’s going to cry before I’m done with him.

    Marlee Matlin is a hero to Deaf/HOH women and girls literally all over the world.

  204. 204.

    Steve in the ATL

    Good fucking God. Just read this on CNN:

    Throughout this campaign, Trump has laid out a clear, populist message and set of goals. Nearly any voter, on the other hand, will tell you they aren’t sure what Clinton’s core message is or what her agenda would be in the White House.

    Fuck off, Zucker.

  205. 205.

    Fair Economist

    @Kathleen:

    A bit OT, but have you heard about Ava Duvernay’s Netflix documentary “13”? A couple of my friends saw it and said it was devastating. Can’t get link.

    No, and thanks for the referral. Even without seeing it, it puts the insane rate of incarceration in the US into context – as well as the racial bias.

  206. 206.

    trollhattan

    CA mail ballot arrived today. Now I get to plow through all those bloody propositions. My October Surprise will be figuring them all out by November.

  207. 207.

    Helen

    Wow. Just watched Trump’s speech. He’s really gonna end up in a bunker below NYC with a self-inflicted bullet hole in his head.

    Closest bunker to Trump Tower in NYC is the E train. Everyone’s gonna be way pissed off that the E train’s gonna be delayed. Especially during rush hour.

  211. 211.

    Ken

    @Sm*t Cl*de:

    I scent another Trump plagiarism scandal.

    I doubt anyone will bother. Supposedly there’s much worse stuff about to come out – worse than the groping, that is. We may find out tomorrow, if the Clinton campaign really is coordinating these releases on an every-Friday schedule.

  212. 212.

    OGLiberal

    The one reason I don’t think we’ll see any mass uprising when Trump loses is because most of his big supporters are big p**sies, just like he is. They can shove protestetors around at a Trump rally but they’re in a small minority overall. Ourside of a rally or Facebook, they’re scared, insecure wimps….just like their hero.

  213. 213.

    Credenzal Jocularity

    @OGLiberal: Their 101st Chairborn Division has never been defeated in combat.

    Also, too, Ghandi never lost a hot dog eating contest.

  215. 215.

    Matt McIrvin

    @Schlemazel: I expect a burst of domestic violence and an increase in white cops killing black people. That’s what they’re good at, bullying people in situations where they have a power imbalance.

  216. 216.

    jk

    @Helen:

    I knew Trump was a raving lunatic, but this latest speech was more deranged, delusional, foaming at the mouth, batshit crazy than any other speech of his that I’ve seen during this campaign. Someone needs to find a sedative and straitjacket for him.

  217. 217.

    Aleta

    This is from an interview (on the Southern Poverty Law Center website ) that Hatewatch did in June with M H##mb##h, a possible leader for T’s alt-r followers in future political action :

    Q : Trump’s candidacy has done much to energize white nationalists in the United States. What happens for your movement if Trump loses?

    A : If Trump loses, … it’s not going to be because of the people, [it will be because of a] betrayal by the Republican establishment that cares more about Wall Street donors and international interests than their own constituents. I think it would be very clear in that case that it would be great for us. Because once people finally realize the Republican party is opposed to them, will mock them, and do everything against the things they voted for, then the only logical path for every day working families is to be able to come to groups like the Traditionalist Worker Party.

    Q : Lastly, as a southern nationalist and a white nationalist, what are your thoughts on the outcome of the United Kingdoms’ decision to leave the European Union (EU), what was known as the BREXIT vote?

    A : It’s a great shot in the arm to be able to show that self-determination is popular again and that this sense of being opposed to globalism and supporting sovereignty is normal. If secession can happen peacefully with Britain leaving EU, and the majority of the people can support it when presented with a choice, then I think that is a great example for us in the United States. I think that the people will support this message of sovereignty and ending immigration and ending free trade agreements that hurt the working class and to be able to support our culture and retake control of our communities. It’s a great example for us in the United States on how multiculturalism and federal tyranny can be opposed peacefully and legally.

  218. 218.

    PhoenixRising

    @efgoldman: Clarification: the GOP has had no effect in CA since Prop 187, which was a mini-Trump-campaign in one bill. Required schools and ERs to report ‘illegals’.

    California has rejected Republicans as a threat to a healthy body politic since 1995 as a result.

    Know hope, y’all.

  219. 219.

    Credenzal Jocularity

    It probably safely down-thread enough to give a shout-out to my fellow Maroon Burnspbesq, in a safe, non-doxy way. It’s cool when personas you admire on the interwebs mention they are from your home town. It completes the illusion that you aren’t: All. One. Guy.

    /class of ’91 ( I’m guessing we didn’t overlap, but we’ve both been to Graydon Pool)

  221. 221.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @redshirt: Blow up your TeeVee
    throw away your paper
    move to the country
    build you a home

    plant a little garden
    eat a lot of peaches
    and try to find jesus
    on your own

  226. 226.

    Aleta

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    I’m going up the country, baby don’t you wanna go?
    I’m going up the country, baby don’t you wanna go?
    I’m going to some place where I’ve never been before.
    I’m gonna leave the city, got to get away.
    I’m gonna leave this city, got to get away.
    All this fussing and fighting, you know I sure can’t stay.

  228. 228.

    Patricia Kayden

    @Stella B.: I voted today also. Felt great to vote for Secretary Clinton.

    @PhoenixRising: Wowzers!! Reporting “illegals” in ER hits me hard as someone who spent hours in ER with frequent asthma attacks as a child. That’s pure evil.

  229. 229.

    PIGL

    @jk: no need to launch them that far. Into the sun, would be fine. Or drop them into a volcano, let gravity do the work. And heat…the blistering, flesh-boiling heat of lava. Or, we could go all 2nd century CE on them: sewn into a leathern sack with live animals and dropped into the river. According to wiki, this happened until almost modern times in Bavaria. Bavaria, forsooth. Nowadays, to spare the innocent animals, we could use animatronic creatures with extra-horrific horns, hooves, fangs and stingers.

    Or…brain-wave…a hive of japanese giga-hornets. Nobody would feel sorry for them, so win-win.

  231. 231.

    Jesse

    @Schlemazel: I don’t understand the point you’re trying to make here.

    I’m not prepared to roll over for a “new Confederacy” just because it’s organized as a collection of (sad and pathetic) terrorist revolutionaries instead of seceding states. If we see an upswing in “domestic terrorism”, we’ll deal with it. McVeigh was tried and convicted, was he not?

  232. 232.

    burnspbesq

    @Credenzal Jocularity:

    Thanks. I love that town. It was a great place to grow up.

    RHS football won by forfeit tonight. Bergen Tech has too many injuries to play.

    Hoping Gottheimer can beat Garrett this time around. If he does, I will celebrate by playing Real Estate loud enough to wake the neighbors.

    Class of ’73, if you must know.

  233. 233.

    Applejinx

    I don’t believe for a second it’s just pundits being dumbasses. Threats are being made. They consider themselves in danger.

    Joe Scarborough has been told, you WILL die for Trump or the Russian Mob will get you. Your reputation can die or you and your toy can die, your choice. There is no third option. So be a good boy and carry the water and don’t fuck up, and there might be some money in it for you. Not much, because the other choice is you get killed, even tonight. So here’s your talking points, and keep your woman quiet…

    I think it’s ridiculous to believe they’re THAT dumb and craven. There’s a whole other level going on here, and a bunch of these people are being given credible threats, a sudden escalation in pressure. They started as bootlickers, sure, but things got serious. I think they are now directly threatened and following orders. Look at Mika holding her tongue and trying to act normal. I don’t believe just keeping a job at a network is that serious.

  234. 234.

    Ian

    @shomi:
    What substance are you abusing? As governor she had state law enforcement break the law to attack her in-laws. What part of red-flag do you miss out on here?

  236. 236.

    CarolDuhart2

    @TK: What’s your state? You can early vote like I did on Wednesday and get it over with. And tell your Hillary-supporting friends to do the same.

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