That’s really the only possible explanation for this…
Trump is hideous in the flesh, of course, so a handsome robot would be a lie. And the robot versions of President Obama and the other presidents are pretty fake and tacky looking, IMO — and since Trump is fake and tacky looking in person, you’d think it would make it easier to capture his essence animatronically.
But it’s like the Disney folks went out of their way to showcase Trump’s personal and sartorial defects, including the jowls and wattles, cotton-candy shelf of hair, poorly fitting suit, too-long tie, etc. Even though his big gut doesn’t appear to have been represented by the padding it deserves, I count the brave, patriotic Imagineers among the Resistance!
Open thread.
woodrowfan
I predict fistfights in the Hall of Presidents between those cheering and those booing the mutant circus peanut.
Yarrow
Didn’t someone say last night they had to add security to the Hall of Presidents because of the addition of the Trump robot.
laura
Well, I spot an inaccuracy right out the gate -the mouth hole appears to be a somewhat normal horizontal slash instead of his “looks just like a butt hole” actual mouth.
Yarrow
When Trump is finally shown to be a Russian puppet will Disney remove him from the Hall of Presidents?
chopper
I assume the robot has the “word salad” module installed?
brendancalling
I’m with this guy: it was supposed to be Hillary.
Mnemosyne
People in California hate Trump and voted against him in droves.
Most Imagineers live and work in California.
You do the math. ;-)
jeffreyw
@chopper:
Yes, and someone has unhooked the governor.
eclare
Finally got through to Corker’s DC office (local Memphis office has gone straight through to full voicemail for months). Said my piece, that he would be throwing away whatever supposed integrity he had, but that was his decision. Staffperson of course said he would pass my comments along, have a great day. Sounded way too chipper.
? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?
@Yarrow:
Hopefully.
“Two Radical Islamic Terrorists (TM) walk out of a plane. Hey, it could happen. Hahaaaha!”
NotMax
The hair’s the same but he sure as shootin’ ain’t no golden pheasant.
Butthurt Jordan Trombone (fka XTPD)
Who the fuck is Tal Sutsa?
I just remembered he wrote this piece for eXiled Online eight years ago, and I take it Sulsa – currently an expat in Russia – is, if not a Memphis native, then at least a long-time resident of its more impoverished areas. But Google Search turns up nothing before 2009 or after 2011; the most recent I’ve heard from him being comments on Anatoly Karlin’s blog (and if it is a pseudonym I don’t even get results on what significance it holds). It’s like he never even existed.
So I ask again: Who the fuck is this asshole? A disgruntled Hypnotize Minds affiliate?
randy khan
The tie is a very nice touch, although it probably should have been red.
trollhattan
Why frighten the children like this? #DisneyHateUs
Yarrow
Morning news program said the vote on the tax scam bill would begin today. House expected to vote today and Senate “later in the week.” Does that mean they don’t really have the votes locked down for the Senate? Why not just go ahead and vote if they have the votes? Is there some rule both houses of Congress can’t vote on the same day or something?
chopper
oh man, they really are trolling trump.
Roger Moore
@Yarrow:
I don’t think Trump will be stricken from the rolls any more than our previous traitorous President, James Buchanan, was. He’ll just be that guy we hate to talk about.
trollhattan
@eclare:
Must be a temp, grateful for the job.
Jerzy Russian
I can’t tell on my phone. Are the hands small? And since I am stuck at age 12, I wonder if those brave and patriotic engineers gave him a tiny robot dinky to match the real one.
chopper
@brendancalling:
but apparently the body guys thought it was gonna be christie.
? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?
@chopper: Jesus Christ. I don’t endorse fat-shaming but that is not a flattering look.
father pusbucket
Is it holding a phone?
eclare
@Butthurt Jordan Trombone (fka XTPD): Have no idea, but I have never heard Memphis referred to as “Memfrica”.
MomSense
@Yarrow:
They could always turn him into a marionette with Putin holding the strings.
germy
Ta-Nehisi Coates closed his twitter account. He’s not tweeting anymore. The account is gone.
The last straw was when Richard Spencer jumped in to agree with Brother West.
Coates was like “I’m out.”
Leto
That is a thing of nightmares which will haunt us forever.
But the hair is pretty spot on, so bravo!
@randy khan: Wasn’t long enough. Although, blue isn’t that bad.
Betty Cracker
@brendancalling: Plausible theory.
Yarrow
@randy khan:
My guess is the Imagineers made the tie another color on purpose just to piss him off. “He likes red ties best? Great! What other color tie should we use? How about stripes? Perfect.” Heh.
NotMax
As there’s a Open Thread tag –
Mentioned this in a moribund thread, curious if others perhaps find it as jarring and disconcerting.
While it ought not to matter in the slightest, the red trumpet seen in some shots of this orchestra really, really bothers the holy heck out of me.
Caveat Jedi: Star Wars connection. ;)
Roger Moore
@chopper:
If they were really trolling him, they would have used a Russian flag lapel pin.
Ceci n est pas mon nym
I was at the Hotel Harrington in June, which is a historic hotel in DC just a couple blocks from the Old Post Office Pavilion, which I understand some crooked real estate developer (rhymes with Gump) has turned into a tacky gold-plated hotel.
They had a Wall of Presidents which ended with Obama. And it didn’t look like there was room to add more.
jimmiraybob
“I am the most bootiful and greatest presidential statue evah! I’m tellin’ you. And lot’s of people are saying so. Believe me. President Putin, the greatest leader of the world, just called to …… sluuurrr arblebargle bigly only one….only one…. must grab ……….. MAGA …… only one ……….must grab p………..” (this display closed until further notice)
Amaranthine RBG
@germy:
Oh noes, so many write liberals just lost their cool black friend
? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?
@Roger Moore:
That never would have gotten approval unfortunately. Even Trump would have seen that for what it was, as stupid as he is.
Yarrow
@MomSense: LOL. Love that. Wish they would. They could do it now.
? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?
@Amaranthine RBG:
I agree!
Butthurt Jordan Trombone (fka XTPD)
@eclare: Truth be told, neither have I, and I actually listen to a fair amount of Memphis rap. (The article makes a point of noting that Kalashnikovs were $80 at the time, under 1/8th the cost in Somalia).
jimmiraybob
@laura: I agree. They should have done the puckered sphincter mouth.
schrodingers_cat
Reposted from two threads below, because this thread is a better fit for this comment.
NotMax
@Yarrow
Tie is still too short, IMHO. Guess they weren’t willing to lay out money for the actual Dolt 45 branded overcompensation model.
Hidden from the public, there is a huge asterisk tattoo on the chest. (One can but hope.)
Boatboy_srq
@Roger Moore: Does anyone ever get close enough to that exhibit to state conclusively that they did not?
eclare
@Butthurt Jordan Trombone (fka XTPD): I don’t watch local news, but I read the local papers, and they are very sensitive about reporting crime and how the city is portrayed. If “Memfrica” had become a thing, I think they would have reported it. AK’s I have no idea, but I don’t read about them being used in the paper, and I definitely have not read that police are refusing to go to certain areas.
Leto
@germy: I don’t blame him. At this point, like most social media, it’s just a toxic cesspool. Their new rules will still be a challenge to enforce, and the loophole of “newsworthy” will ensure that we still see shitgibbon’s insane ramblings.
raven
@schrodingers_cat: He’s a Jar Head.
germy
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-teams-meeting-with-muellers-office-poised-to-ratchet-up-tensions/2017/12/18/15dac668-e41d-11e7-a65d-1ac0fd7f097e_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_trumpattack-820pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.cd13df987e47
“We are done with the president. There is nothing there.”
Sure, after the bones are picked completely clean.
Amir Khalid
Trump’s Hall of Presidents droid looks as ugly as he deserves it to. But now that I’ve seen the other droids in close-up photos, I’m wondering about something. I know Disney’s craftspeople can do better, more accurate likenesses of the other Presidents. Those look like they were done in a hurry from indistinct photos or paintings. How come?
father pusbucket
@chopper:
They hiked the waistband for that shot. My eyes still hurt.
schrodingers_cat
@NotMax: And 666 on the scalp, that’s why he can’t go bald and has to have the poodle on his head (h/t :Simpsons)
germy
@Leto: Brother West and Brother Spencer both on the same page.
What was that about useful idiots?
schrodingers_cat
@raven: I did read that and a decorated one at that. I wonder if any BJ regulars served with Mr. M.
Yarrow
@NotMax: Maybe they have a rule that they have to dress the robot presidents in American made clothes. So, Trump branded ties would be right out.
@schrodingers_cat: Mueller looks like a professional who is focused on his job. He’s well dressed without calling attention to himself. Well groomed and a healthy weight without calling attention to himself about it. All of that indicates that he’s comfortable with who he is. It’s really only remarkable because of how horribly many of the subjects of his investigation look and dress.
Boatboy_srq
@schrodingers_cat: Tailors cost $$: even semi-custom clothing is a pretty penny. Plus, one has to be measured and remeasured and test-fitted for all the really good stuff. Lord Dampnut has neither the patience for the process nor the respect for the craftspeople to take the time or pay the bill.
father pusbucket
@germy:
Could you give me a tr;dr on that, please?
Mnemosyne
@Amir Khalid:
I only have a smidgen of knowledge about the process, but it’s the materials — they need to hold up to dozens of shows per day without cracking or tearing. You end up with less realism but more durability.
During the show, under the lights, they look kinda cool, though it sometimes seems that they use the same (older) technology for all of them just so they don’t have to update every damn robot in the place. But that’s speculation on my part — I don’t actually know.
eclare
@raven: Mueller’s Vietnam was Vietnam. Trump claimed his Vietnam was avoiding STD’s in the 80’s.
Yarrow
@raven: Happy birthday to your bride!
germy
@father pusbucket:
Another Scott
Actual GIF of Bob Corker – via LOLGOP’s Twitter feed.
Cheers,
Scott.
Steve in the ATL
@eclare:
I have. Found it very offensive. Person saying it, like the staffer answering Corker’s, did not care.
Brachiator
Why would Robot Trump allow itself to be on stage with any other robot presidents? Wouldn’t Robot Trump think itself the greatest robot president ever?
trollhattan
@eclare:
Somebody (Adam?) the other day posted that Mueller’s bronze star includes a citation for going under fire to retrieve a fallen comrade on the battlefield.
Trump, OTOH bravely did coke off model asses at Studio 54, so cut from the same cloth, obviously.
marshJ
There goes approval of the Disney/Fox Studios deal…….
PaulWartenberg
One thing I’ve seen on Twitter is that the trumpbot looks suspiciously like it would have been a Hillarybot and they made last-minute changes to the face and hair.
Either way, I refuse to go into that Disney ride.
Butthurt Jordan Trombone (fka XTPD)
@eclare: That it’s not even part of local slang AFAIK (compare to Chiraq) may be a bit of a tell, here.
For what it’s worth, typing the writer’s name in Russian also turned up nothing. And over on Twitter MikeJ said that getting killed in a convenience store was not high on his list of worries. (This was closer to Orange Mound than North North).
PaulWartenberg
@germy:
Fucking Twitter trolls broke my man Coates.
2017: where Cornel West and Richard Spencer are on the same fucking page beating up on Black Intellectuals THEY don’t like while all of America burns under Republican tax cuts and Shitgibbon’s racist war.
eclare
@Another Scott: Very cute!
eclare
@Steve in the ATL: Ugh, hate to hear that.
sixthdoctor
A small victory:
schrodingers_cat
@PaulWartenberg: The hair does look like HRC’s hair helmet. Which is still better than the poodle on T’s head.
NotMax
@Boatboy_srq
A best suit is bespoke.
Dolt 45’s suits are bespooked.
Yarrow
@PaulWartenberg:
Wonder if the addition of Trump will affect numbers for the Hall of Presidents? I’d refuse to go too.
Barbara
@schrodingers_cat: Mueller’s full head of hair all by itself probably sends Trump into paroxysms of rage. His emotive capacity seems to be limited to self-praise and rage, which occurs whenever it cannot be denied that someone else has bested him.
raven
@schrodingers_cat: Not likely, there are several dogfaces, squids and flyboys but no Jar Heads who have self-identified.
eclare
@trollhattan: Just like Pearl Harbor, to Trump, it was a pretty wild scene!
germy
@PaulWartenberg: Coates has better things to do.
Wag
@Yarrow: No, but the strings will become visible
Brachiator
@Yarrow:
They could keep him and add strings.
ETA: Hah! Just saw Wag’s comment.
schrodingers_cat
@Barbara: I have special affection for Mueller because he looks a lot like my favorite grandfather down to the hair who was always impeccably dressed with every hair in place. Mueller is taller though.
zhena gogolia
@schrodingers_cat: @raven:
That’s what I was going to say. Discipline is in his blood, and that is displayed in his whole turnout. Trump wouldn’t know discipline if it bit him in a sensitive place.
Yarrow
@Wag: @Wag: @MomSense: LOL. Everyone loves the strings idea. Maybe they could also make his nose really long because he lies about everything.
randy khan
@Leto: Those are excellent.
eclare
@NotMax: Hahaha….
Barbara
@germy: No one in his right mind should ever respond to anything Richard Spencer says, not directly. To respond even negatively is to give him validation, which, however minor it may seem, is unwarranted. I’d go offline if I were Coates as well.
The Moar You Know
@NotMax: I was an orchestra/band kid through elementary, junior high, and high school. I love it, myself. But were I that trumpet player, I’d have a silver or brass alternate, because some orchestras/conductors aren’t going to allow such things.
Nowadays you can get horns in pretty much any color you want. They were always lacquered anyway, to prevent tarnish, so a little bit of color in the lacquer isn’t going to change the sound at all.
Leto
@germy: That “when sorrows come, they come not in single spies. But in battalions.”
randy khan
@Ceci n est pas mon nym:
Calling the Hotel Harrington historic is very kind. I work just around the corner from there, and often have wondered how that building has survived given what surrounds it. But I love that they don’t have a Trump photo up yet.
Jeffro
I’m shocked…I see nothing about this on Fox News dot com…you’d think they would have the Outrage Engine cranked up to 11 by now. I guess they don’t want people looking at animatronic Twitler and then an actual pic and realizing Disney got it pretty much right.
Mike J
Some good news. Senate banking committee rejected trump’s nominee for the exim bank.
randy khan
@germy:
Yeah. I can see the first sentence, but in a much different context.
NotMax
@raven
A happy birthday to Her Raveness.
randy khan
@sixthdoctor:
It’s kind of amazing, actually, to nominate someone for a job like that and have the committee turn him down.
A Ghost To Most
The robot Rump definitely needs a robot Putin above, with strings he can pull.
randy khan
@Yarrow:
How do we know the robot isn’t already controlled from the Kremlin?
Leto
@randy khan: Google “Trump long tie memes”. It’s always good for a laugh on a bad day :)
Yarrow
@randy khan: We don’t. But I’d hope Disney’s security and background checks would be better than what happened in the 2016 election.
Feathers
@germy: He’s left before and come back. Sigh. Useful idiots indeed.
I worked at Harvard during the Larry Summers/Cornel West “beef”. There was much amusement because Larry had the same conversation with several others. They all kept quiet about it, all the while sharpening their knives.
Mike in NC
Enjoyed all the pictures of the grotesque Trump robot.
It being December, note that The Donald has donned his Big Black Baggy Overcoat in a failed attempt to hide his enormous girth. Also too, the stupid ballcaps.
Amir Khalid
@randy khan:
He’s not Trump’s first totally unqualified nominee. Think of any of his Cabinet secretaries, or of that nominee for a federal judgeship who at his hearing failed a pop quiz on the basics of trial procedure.
Chip Daniels
I’m trying to imagine the animatronic 45 babbling about pussy, to a room full of Mouse-ear wearing families from Salt Lake City.
catclub
@NotMax: Plastic brass instruments are much better than you might expect. Although the phrase ‘plastic brass instrument’ seems self-contradictory. Plastic trumpets, tubas, trombones, euphoniums is more accurate. So far no French Horns as far as I know.
Fair Economist
@sixthdoctor:
I’m curious, with a Senate that’s been voting to confirm “judges” who aren’t even fit to argue a case, Carson at HUD, and DeVos at Education, what exactly was the bridge too far in this case. He must really be bad!
ThresherK
This year’s Squidbillies special, “The War on the War on Christmas”, is a glorious hoot and a half.
Domestic Short Hair Tabby fka...
Looks like Emperor Palpatine
SFBayAreaGal
I belong to a few Disney Facebook pages. The arguments have been hot and heavy about Butt Ugly Orange. So much so that the administrators have turned off commenting.
NotMax
@catclub
Have been aware of PVC tubas for a while now. Even linked to them them here a year or two (or three) ago,. While the sound is nearly equivalent (cannot speak to the range), the colors are something else. Baby blue and pastel pink, for example, keeping in mind that time plus exposure will unevenly fade or dull the surface of PVC.
JR
@germy: everyone should close their twitter account
David Anderson
@Fair Economist: This is interesting in that three judges have withdrawn themselves from consideration and now this…
Interesting….
randy khan
@Amir Khalid:
Exactly. So I’m trying to think of the bar that those folks cleared* and this guy didn’t. It practically would have to be underground.
*Well, not the guy who couldn’t answer any questions, who withdrew before the committee vote.
randy khan
@catclub:
There’s a long history of plastic sousaphones, almost certainly longer than the other brass instruments. I do seem to recall, though, that there were plastic mouthpieces available back in my long-ago high school band days, for use on cold days. (We eschewed such things, and kept our mouthpieces warm (or at least not incredibly cold) by putting them in our pockets.)
Citizen Alan
@sixthdoctor:
Is it really a moment of sanity? Or is it because the Republicans don’t think we should even have an import-export Bank?
Tata
@Fair Economist: Garrett was an awful congresscritter from NJ. We celebrated here when he finally lost an election, but the Dem who beat Garrett immediately went over the wall to vote with Republicans. But seriously, Garrett was a pill.
NotMax
@>a href=”https://balloon-juice.com/2017/12/19/the-imagineers-hate-trumps-guts-too/#comment-6684269″>Citizen Alan
Or a revealing moment of “Really, is this the worst you can come up with? Surely there must be someone more execrable you can nominate.”
Villago Delenda Est
@Amaranthine RBG: And this post is why you are both despised and deprecated, Berniebro scum.
sixthdoctor
@Citizen Alan: Not sure, but Garrett was anti-Ex Im as a congressman so he would have ran it like Mulvaney and DeVos run their departments, one assumes…
catclub
@NotMax: I thought that after a series of really dull and ugly (but popular with people like Winton Marsalis) trumpets appeared, worries about what instruments look like would go away. I would be worried if a conductor chose appearance over sound.
NotMax
@catclub
Maestros are nothing if not finicky.
;)
catclub
@NotMax: So I have heard. A pun!
David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch
Lincoln saying: “I knew the Know-Nothings would win sooner or later”
Anotherlurker
@Yarrow: Or, for really special shows, trump, the aminatron’s paints could catch fire!
J R in WV
@randy khan:
Shouldn’t that tie be about 6 or 8 inches longer, and an inch wider? Seems like that would be more accurate to me. He may have worn a tie like the robot once, but not typically in the White House.
Plus the mouth, people are right about that. Way too normal looking. Needs to be pursed like he was sucking on a lemon. Sucking Hard!
J R in WV
@catclub:
My last year in H S Band, they got new plastic Sousaphones, to replace older and admittedly slightly dented silver plate brass horns. I was really disappointed, actually. They were lighter to carry and easier to play while marching in a half-time show or a parade, but they really didn’t have as good a sound as the old brass horns.
55 pounds for the brass tubas, IIRC 35 or 40 for the plastic/fiberglass tubas. I liked the old Sousaphones. I imagine they donated them to another school, I hope so. They shouldn’t have laid in a back room, that’s for sure.
SgrAstar
@PaulWartenberg: well said, Paul. I’d like to think that TNC is tougher than his detractors…he’s certainly a lot smarter.
LanceThruster
The tie needs to be that big red belly warmer.