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You are here: Home / Open Threads / The Imagineers hate Trump’s guts too…

The Imagineers hate Trump’s guts too…

by Betty Cracker|  December 19, 201710:21 am| 123 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, Assholes, General Stupidity

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That’s really the only possible explanation for this…

Note: Original photo edited to add internal dialogue from other robot-presidents.

Trump is hideous in the flesh, of course, so a handsome robot would be a lie. And the robot versions of President Obama and the other presidents are pretty fake and tacky looking, IMO — and since Trump is fake and tacky looking in person, you’d think it would make it easier to capture his essence animatronically.

But it’s like the Disney folks went out of their way to showcase Trump’s personal and sartorial defects, including the jowls and wattles, cotton-candy shelf of hair, poorly fitting suit, too-long tie, etc. Even though his big gut doesn’t appear to have been represented by the padding it deserves, I count the brave, patriotic Imagineers among the Resistance!

Open thread.

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  1. 1.

    woodrowfan

    December 19, 2017 at 10:25 am

    I predict fistfights in the Hall of Presidents between those cheering and those booing the mutant circus peanut.

  2. 2.

    Yarrow

    December 19, 2017 at 10:26 am

    Didn’t someone say last night they had to add security to the Hall of Presidents because of the addition of the Trump robot.

  3. 3.

    laura

    December 19, 2017 at 10:28 am

    Well, I spot an inaccuracy right out the gate -the mouth hole appears to be a somewhat normal horizontal slash instead of his “looks just like a butt hole” actual mouth.

  4. 4.

    Yarrow

    December 19, 2017 at 10:29 am

    When Trump is finally shown to be a Russian puppet will Disney remove him from the Hall of Presidents?

  5. 5.

    chopper

    December 19, 2017 at 10:30 am

    I assume the robot has the “word salad” module installed?

  6. 6.

    brendancalling

    December 19, 2017 at 10:31 am

    I’m with this guy: it was supposed to be Hillary.

  7. 7.

    Mnemosyne

    December 19, 2017 at 10:32 am

    People in California hate Trump and voted against him in droves.

    Most Imagineers live and work in California.

    You do the math. ;-)

  8. 8.

    jeffreyw

    December 19, 2017 at 10:33 am

    @chopper:

    I assume the robot has the “word salad” module installed?

    Yes, and someone has unhooked the governor.

  9. 9.

    eclare

    December 19, 2017 at 10:33 am

    Finally got through to Corker’s DC office (local Memphis office has gone straight through to full voicemail for months). Said my piece, that he would be throwing away whatever supposed integrity he had, but that was his decision. Staffperson of course said he would pass my comments along, have a great day. Sounded way too chipper.

  10. 10.

    ? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?

    December 19, 2017 at 10:34 am

    @Yarrow:
    Hopefully.

    “Two Radical Islamic Terrorists (TM) walk out of a plane. Hey, it could happen. Hahaaaha!”

  11. 11.

    NotMax

    December 19, 2017 at 10:35 am

    The hair’s the same but he sure as shootin’ ain’t no golden pheasant.

  12. 12.

    Butthurt Jordan Trombone (fka XTPD)

    December 19, 2017 at 10:36 am

    Who the fuck is Tal Sutsa?

    I just remembered he wrote this piece for eXiled Online eight years ago, and I take it Sulsa – currently an expat in Russia – is, if not a Memphis native, then at least a long-time resident of its more impoverished areas. But Google Search turns up nothing before 2009 or after 2011; the most recent I’ve heard from him being comments on Anatoly Karlin’s blog (and if it is a pseudonym I don’t even get results on what significance it holds). It’s like he never even existed.

    So I ask again: Who the fuck is this asshole? A disgruntled Hypnotize Minds affiliate?

  13. 13.

    randy khan

    December 19, 2017 at 10:36 am

    The tie is a very nice touch, although it probably should have been red.

  14. 14.

    trollhattan

    December 19, 2017 at 10:36 am

    Why frighten the children like this? #DisneyHateUs

  15. 15.

    Yarrow

    December 19, 2017 at 10:37 am

    Morning news program said the vote on the tax scam bill would begin today. House expected to vote today and Senate “later in the week.” Does that mean they don’t really have the votes locked down for the Senate? Why not just go ahead and vote if they have the votes? Is there some rule both houses of Congress can’t vote on the same day or something?

  16. 16.

    chopper

    December 19, 2017 at 10:37 am

    oh man, they really are trolling trump.

  17. 17.

    Roger Moore

    December 19, 2017 at 10:37 am

    @Yarrow:
    I don’t think Trump will be stricken from the rolls any more than our previous traitorous President, James Buchanan, was. He’ll just be that guy we hate to talk about.

  18. 18.

    trollhattan

    December 19, 2017 at 10:38 am

    @eclare:

    Staffperson of course said he would pass my comments along, have a great day. Sounded way too chipper.

    Must be a temp, grateful for the job.

  19. 19.

    Jerzy Russian

    December 19, 2017 at 10:39 am

    I can’t tell on my phone. Are the hands small? And since I am stuck at age 12, I wonder if those brave and patriotic engineers gave him a tiny robot dinky to match the real one.

  20. 20.

    chopper

    December 19, 2017 at 10:39 am

    @brendancalling:

    but apparently the body guys thought it was gonna be christie.

  21. 21.

    ? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?

    December 19, 2017 at 10:39 am

    @chopper: Jesus Christ. I don’t endorse fat-shaming but that is not a flattering look.

  22. 22.

    father pusbucket

    December 19, 2017 at 10:41 am

    Is it holding a phone?

  23. 23.

    eclare

    December 19, 2017 at 10:41 am

    @Butthurt Jordan Trombone (fka XTPD): Have no idea, but I have never heard Memphis referred to as “Memfrica”.

  24. 24.

    MomSense

    December 19, 2017 at 10:42 am

    @Yarrow:

    They could always turn him into a marionette with Putin holding the strings.

  25. 25.

    germy

    December 19, 2017 at 10:43 am

    Ta-Nehisi Coates closed his twitter account. He’s not tweeting anymore. The account is gone.

    The last straw was when Richard Spencer jumped in to agree with Brother West.

    Coates was like “I’m out.”

  26. 26.

    Leto

    December 19, 2017 at 10:43 am

    That is a thing of nightmares which will haunt us forever.

    But the hair is pretty spot on, so bravo!

    @randy khan: Wasn’t long enough. Although, blue isn’t that bad.

  27. 27.

    Betty Cracker

    December 19, 2017 at 10:44 am

    @brendancalling: Plausible theory.

  28. 28.

    Yarrow

    December 19, 2017 at 10:44 am

    @randy khan:

    The tie is a very nice touch, although it probably should have been red.

    My guess is the Imagineers made the tie another color on purpose just to piss him off. “He likes red ties best? Great! What other color tie should we use? How about stripes? Perfect.” Heh.

  29. 29.

    NotMax

    December 19, 2017 at 10:46 am

    As there’s a Open Thread tag –

    Mentioned this in a moribund thread, curious if others perhaps find it as jarring and disconcerting.

    While it ought not to matter in the slightest, the red trumpet seen in some shots of this orchestra really, really bothers the holy heck out of me.

    Caveat Jedi: Star Wars connection.      ;)

  30. 30.

    Roger Moore

    December 19, 2017 at 10:46 am

    @chopper:
    If they were really trolling him, they would have used a Russian flag lapel pin.

  31. 31.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    December 19, 2017 at 10:46 am

    I was at the Hotel Harrington in June, which is a historic hotel in DC just a couple blocks from the Old Post Office Pavilion, which I understand some crooked real estate developer (rhymes with Gump) has turned into a tacky gold-plated hotel.

    They had a Wall of Presidents which ended with Obama. And it didn’t look like there was room to add more.

  32. 32.

    jimmiraybob

    December 19, 2017 at 10:47 am

    “I am the most bootiful and greatest presidential statue evah! I’m tellin’ you. And lot’s of people are saying so. Believe me. President Putin, the greatest leader of the world, just called to …… sluuurrr arblebargle bigly only one….only one…. must grab ……….. MAGA …… only one ……….must grab p………..” (this display closed until further notice)

  33. 33.

    Amaranthine RBG

    December 19, 2017 at 10:47 am

    @germy:
    Oh noes, so many write liberals just lost their cool black friend

  34. 34.

    ? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?

    December 19, 2017 at 10:48 am

    @Roger Moore:
    That never would have gotten approval unfortunately. Even Trump would have seen that for what it was, as stupid as he is.

  35. 35.

    Yarrow

    December 19, 2017 at 10:48 am

    @MomSense: LOL. Love that. Wish they would. They could do it now.

  36. 36.

    ? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?

    December 19, 2017 at 10:51 am

    @Amaranthine RBG:

    The hell with pie, give me a tart!

    I agree!

  37. 37.

    Butthurt Jordan Trombone (fka XTPD)

    December 19, 2017 at 10:51 am

    @eclare: Truth be told, neither have I, and I actually listen to a fair amount of Memphis rap. (The article makes a point of noting that Kalashnikovs were $80 at the time, under 1/8th the cost in Somalia).

  38. 38.

    jimmiraybob

    December 19, 2017 at 10:52 am

    @laura: I agree. They should have done the puckered sphincter mouth.

  39. 39.

    schrodingers_cat

    December 19, 2017 at 10:54 am

    Reposted from two threads below, because this thread is a better fit for this comment.

    On a completely shallow note:
    BTW has anyone noticed how long and delicate Mueller’s fingers are, plus his suits always seem to fit him, his tie is not overly long and he is not grossly obese and doesn’t have a bird’s nest on his head. All in all he cuts a much more impressive figure than the pretender in the WH. This is before we compare their resumes and biographies.

  40. 40.

    NotMax

    December 19, 2017 at 10:55 am

    @Yarrow

    Tie is still too short, IMHO. Guess they weren’t willing to lay out money for the actual Dolt 45 branded overcompensation model.

    Hidden from the public, there is a huge asterisk tattoo on the chest. (One can but hope.)

  41. 41.

    Boatboy_srq

    December 19, 2017 at 10:56 am

    @Roger Moore: Does anyone ever get close enough to that exhibit to state conclusively that they did not?

  42. 42.

    eclare

    December 19, 2017 at 10:57 am

    @Butthurt Jordan Trombone (fka XTPD): I don’t watch local news, but I read the local papers, and they are very sensitive about reporting crime and how the city is portrayed. If “Memfrica” had become a thing, I think they would have reported it. AK’s I have no idea, but I don’t read about them being used in the paper, and I definitely have not read that police are refusing to go to certain areas.

  43. 43.

    Leto

    December 19, 2017 at 10:57 am

    @germy: I don’t blame him. At this point, like most social media, it’s just a toxic cesspool. Their new rules will still be a challenge to enforce, and the loophole of “newsworthy” will ensure that we still see shitgibbon’s insane ramblings.

  44. 44.

    raven

    December 19, 2017 at 10:57 am

    @schrodingers_cat: He’s a Jar Head.

  45. 45.

    germy

    December 19, 2017 at 10:58 am

    Mark Corallo, a former spokesman for Trump’s legal team, said he thinks it is unlikely that the probe wraps up by the end of the year, but he said he believes it could conclude in the spring. He said that Mueller is aware of the political implications surrounding his investigation.

    “Bob understands you can’t have a president who is living under this cloud of uncertainty,” Corallo said, adding that he believes it is possible that the special counsel will at some point call Trump’s lawyers and say, “We are done with the president. There is nothing there.”

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-teams-meeting-with-muellers-office-poised-to-ratchet-up-tensions/2017/12/18/15dac668-e41d-11e7-a65d-1ac0fd7f097e_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_trumpattack-820pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.cd13df987e47

    “We are done with the president. There is nothing there.”

    Sure, after the bones are picked completely clean.

  46. 46.

    Amir Khalid

    December 19, 2017 at 10:58 am

    Trump’s Hall of Presidents droid looks as ugly as he deserves it to. But now that I’ve seen the other droids in close-up photos, I’m wondering about something. I know Disney’s craftspeople can do better, more accurate likenesses of the other Presidents. Those look like they were done in a hurry from indistinct photos or paintings. How come?

  47. 47.

    father pusbucket

    December 19, 2017 at 10:58 am

    @chopper:
    They hiked the waistband for that shot. My eyes still hurt.

  48. 48.

    schrodingers_cat

    December 19, 2017 at 10:59 am

    @NotMax: And 666 on the scalp, that’s why he can’t go bald and has to have the poodle on his head (h/t :Simpsons)

  49. 49.

    germy

    December 19, 2017 at 11:00 am

    @Leto: Brother West and Brother Spencer both on the same page.

    What was that about useful idiots?

  50. 50.

    schrodingers_cat

    December 19, 2017 at 11:00 am

    @raven: I did read that and a decorated one at that. I wonder if any BJ regulars served with Mr. M.

  51. 51.

    Yarrow

    December 19, 2017 at 11:01 am

    @NotMax: Maybe they have a rule that they have to dress the robot presidents in American made clothes. So, Trump branded ties would be right out.

    @schrodingers_cat: Mueller looks like a professional who is focused on his job. He’s well dressed without calling attention to himself. Well groomed and a healthy weight without calling attention to himself about it. All of that indicates that he’s comfortable with who he is. It’s really only remarkable because of how horribly many of the subjects of his investigation look and dress.

  52. 52.

    Boatboy_srq

    December 19, 2017 at 11:01 am

    @schrodingers_cat: Tailors cost $$: even semi-custom clothing is a pretty penny. Plus, one has to be measured and remeasured and test-fitted for all the really good stuff. Lord Dampnut has neither the patience for the process nor the respect for the craftspeople to take the time or pay the bill.

  53. 53.

    father pusbucket

    December 19, 2017 at 11:02 am

    @germy:

    The last straw was when Richard Spencer jumped in to agree with Brother West.

    Could you give me a tr;dr on that, please?

  54. 54.

    Mnemosyne

    December 19, 2017 at 11:02 am

    @Amir Khalid:

    I only have a smidgen of knowledge about the process, but it’s the materials — they need to hold up to dozens of shows per day without cracking or tearing. You end up with less realism but more durability.

    During the show, under the lights, they look kinda cool, though it sometimes seems that they use the same (older) technology for all of them just so they don’t have to update every damn robot in the place. But that’s speculation on my part — I don’t actually know.

  55. 55.

    eclare

    December 19, 2017 at 11:04 am

    @raven: Mueller’s Vietnam was Vietnam. Trump claimed his Vietnam was avoiding STD’s in the 80’s.

  56. 56.

    Yarrow

    December 19, 2017 at 11:05 am

    @raven: Happy birthday to your bride!

  57. 57.

    germy

    December 19, 2017 at 11:07 am

    @father pusbucket:

    This is the era of bad faith arguments. If I'm Coates, whose work has become a magnet for this kind of performative, weaponized troll from the right and left, I'd peace out, too. pic.twitter.com/zAJliToqOv— Astead (@AsteadWesley) December 19, 2017

  58. 58.

    Another Scott

    December 19, 2017 at 11:07 am

    Actual GIF of Bob Corker – via LOLGOP’s Twitter feed.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  59. 59.

    Steve in the ATL

    December 19, 2017 at 11:08 am

    @eclare:

    Have no idea, but I have never heard Memphis referred to as “Memfrica”.

    I have. Found it very offensive. Person saying it, like the staffer answering Corker’s, did not care.

  60. 60.

    Brachiator

    December 19, 2017 at 11:08 am

    Note: Original photo edited to add internal dialogue from other robot-presidents.

    Why would Robot Trump allow itself to be on stage with any other robot presidents? Wouldn’t Robot Trump think itself the greatest robot president ever?

  61. 61.

    trollhattan

    December 19, 2017 at 11:09 am

    @eclare:
    Somebody (Adam?) the other day posted that Mueller’s bronze star includes a citation for going under fire to retrieve a fallen comrade on the battlefield.

    Trump, OTOH bravely did coke off model asses at Studio 54, so cut from the same cloth, obviously.

  62. 62.

    marshJ

    December 19, 2017 at 11:09 am

    There goes approval of the Disney/Fox Studios deal…….

  63. 63.

    PaulWartenberg

    December 19, 2017 at 11:09 am

    One thing I’ve seen on Twitter is that the trumpbot looks suspiciously like it would have been a Hillarybot and they made last-minute changes to the face and hair.

    Either way, I refuse to go into that Disney ride.

  64. 64.

    Butthurt Jordan Trombone (fka XTPD)

    December 19, 2017 at 11:09 am

    @eclare: That it’s not even part of local slang AFAIK (compare to Chiraq) may be a bit of a tell, here.

    For what it’s worth, typing the writer’s name in Russian also turned up nothing. And over on Twitter MikeJ said that getting killed in a convenience store was not high on his list of worries. (This was closer to Orange Mound than North North).

  65. 65.

    PaulWartenberg

    December 19, 2017 at 11:11 am

    @germy:

    Fucking Twitter trolls broke my man Coates.

    2017: where Cornel West and Richard Spencer are on the same fucking page beating up on Black Intellectuals THEY don’t like while all of America burns under Republican tax cuts and Shitgibbon’s racist war.

  66. 66.

    eclare

    December 19, 2017 at 11:11 am

    @Another Scott: Very cute!

  67. 67.

    eclare

    December 19, 2017 at 11:12 am

    @Steve in the ATL: Ugh, hate to hear that.

  68. 68.

    sixthdoctor

    December 19, 2017 at 11:12 am

    A small victory:

    The Senate Banking Committee has voted down Trump’s nominee to lead Export-Import Bank, ex-GOP Rep. Scott Garrett, 10-13. His nomination will not advance to the full Senate.— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) December 19, 2017

  69. 69.

    schrodingers_cat

    December 19, 2017 at 11:12 am

    @PaulWartenberg: The hair does look like HRC’s hair helmet. Which is still better than the poodle on T’s head.

  70. 70.

    NotMax

    December 19, 2017 at 11:12 am

    @Boatboy_srq

    A best suit is bespoke.

    Dolt 45’s suits are bespooked.

  71. 71.

    Yarrow

    December 19, 2017 at 11:13 am

    @PaulWartenberg:

    Either way, I refuse to go into that Disney ride.

    Wonder if the addition of Trump will affect numbers for the Hall of Presidents? I’d refuse to go too.

  72. 72.

    Barbara

    December 19, 2017 at 11:13 am

    @schrodingers_cat: Mueller’s full head of hair all by itself probably sends Trump into paroxysms of rage. His emotive capacity seems to be limited to self-praise and rage, which occurs whenever it cannot be denied that someone else has bested him.

  73. 73.

    raven

    December 19, 2017 at 11:14 am

    @schrodingers_cat: Not likely, there are several dogfaces, squids and flyboys but no Jar Heads who have self-identified.

  74. 74.

    eclare

    December 19, 2017 at 11:14 am

    @trollhattan: Just like Pearl Harbor, to Trump, it was a pretty wild scene!

  75. 75.

    germy

    December 19, 2017 at 11:15 am

    @PaulWartenberg: Coates has better things to do.

  76. 76.

    Wag

    December 19, 2017 at 11:15 am

    @Yarrow: No, but the strings will become visible

  77. 77.

    Brachiator

    December 19, 2017 at 11:15 am

    @Yarrow:

    When Trump is finally shown to be a Russian puppet will Disney remove him from the Hall of Presidents?

    They could keep him and add strings.

    ETA: Hah! Just saw Wag’s comment.

  78. 78.

    schrodingers_cat

    December 19, 2017 at 11:17 am

    @Barbara: I have special affection for Mueller because he looks a lot like my favorite grandfather down to the hair who was always impeccably dressed with every hair in place. Mueller is taller though.

  79. 79.

    zhena gogolia

    December 19, 2017 at 11:17 am

    @schrodingers_cat: @raven:

    That’s what I was going to say. Discipline is in his blood, and that is displayed in his whole turnout. Trump wouldn’t know discipline if it bit him in a sensitive place.

  80. 80.

    Yarrow

    December 19, 2017 at 11:17 am

    @Wag: @Wag: @MomSense: LOL. Everyone loves the strings idea. Maybe they could also make his nose really long because he lies about everything.

  81. 81.

    randy khan

    December 19, 2017 at 11:18 am

    @Leto: Those are excellent.

  82. 82.

    eclare

    December 19, 2017 at 11:18 am

    @NotMax: Hahaha….

  83. 83.

    Barbara

    December 19, 2017 at 11:18 am

    @germy: No one in his right mind should ever respond to anything Richard Spencer says, not directly. To respond even negatively is to give him validation, which, however minor it may seem, is unwarranted. I’d go offline if I were Coates as well.

  84. 84.

    The Moar You Know

    December 19, 2017 at 11:19 am

    Mentioned this in a moribund thread, curious if others perhaps find it as jarring and disconcerting.

    While it ought not to matter in the slightest, the red trumpet seen in some shots of this orchestra really, really bothers the holy heck out of me.

    @NotMax: I was an orchestra/band kid through elementary, junior high, and high school. I love it, myself. But were I that trumpet player, I’d have a silver or brass alternate, because some orchestras/conductors aren’t going to allow such things.

    Nowadays you can get horns in pretty much any color you want. They were always lacquered anyway, to prevent tarnish, so a little bit of color in the lacquer isn’t going to change the sound at all.

  85. 85.

    Leto

    December 19, 2017 at 11:21 am

    @germy: That “when sorrows come, they come not in single spies. But in battalions.”

  86. 86.

    randy khan

    December 19, 2017 at 11:21 am

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym:

    Calling the Hotel Harrington historic is very kind. I work just around the corner from there, and often have wondered how that building has survived given what surrounds it. But I love that they don’t have a Trump photo up yet.

  87. 87.

    Jeffro

    December 19, 2017 at 11:22 am

    I’m shocked…I see nothing about this on Fox News dot com…you’d think they would have the Outrage Engine cranked up to 11 by now. I guess they don’t want people looking at animatronic Twitler and then an actual pic and realizing Disney got it pretty much right.

  88. 88.

    Mike J

    December 19, 2017 at 11:23 am

    Some good news. Senate banking committee rejected trump’s nominee for the exim bank.

  89. 89.

    randy khan

    December 19, 2017 at 11:23 am

    @germy:

    Yeah. I can see the first sentence, but in a much different context.

  90. 90.

    NotMax

    December 19, 2017 at 11:24 am

    @raven

    A happy birthday to Her Raveness.

  91. 91.

    randy khan

    December 19, 2017 at 11:26 am

    @sixthdoctor:

    It’s kind of amazing, actually, to nominate someone for a job like that and have the committee turn him down.

  92. 92.

    A Ghost To Most

    December 19, 2017 at 11:26 am

    The robot Rump definitely needs a robot Putin above, with strings he can pull.

  93. 93.

    randy khan

    December 19, 2017 at 11:27 am

    @Yarrow:

    How do we know the robot isn’t already controlled from the Kremlin?

  94. 94.

    Leto

    December 19, 2017 at 11:28 am

    @randy khan: Google “Trump long tie memes”. It’s always good for a laugh on a bad day :)

  95. 95.

    Yarrow

    December 19, 2017 at 11:33 am

    @randy khan: We don’t. But I’d hope Disney’s security and background checks would be better than what happened in the 2016 election.

  96. 96.

    Feathers

    December 19, 2017 at 11:34 am

    @germy: He’s left before and come back. Sigh. Useful idiots indeed.

    I worked at Harvard during the Larry Summers/Cornel West “beef”. There was much amusement because Larry had the same conversation with several others. They all kept quiet about it, all the while sharpening their knives.

  97. 97.

    Mike in NC

    December 19, 2017 at 11:35 am

    Enjoyed all the pictures of the grotesque Trump robot.

    It being December, note that The Donald has donned his Big Black Baggy Overcoat in a failed attempt to hide his enormous girth. Also too, the stupid ballcaps.

  98. 98.

    Amir Khalid

    December 19, 2017 at 11:36 am

    @randy khan:
    He’s not Trump’s first totally unqualified nominee. Think of any of his Cabinet secretaries, or of that nominee for a federal judgeship who at his hearing failed a pop quiz on the basics of trial procedure.

  99. 99.

    Chip Daniels

    December 19, 2017 at 11:39 am

    I’m trying to imagine the animatronic 45 babbling about pussy, to a room full of Mouse-ear wearing families from Salt Lake City.

  100. 100.

    catclub

    December 19, 2017 at 11:41 am

    @NotMax: Plastic brass instruments are much better than you might expect. Although the phrase ‘plastic brass instrument’ seems self-contradictory. Plastic trumpets, tubas, trombones, euphoniums is more accurate. So far no French Horns as far as I know.

  101. 101.

    Fair Economist

    December 19, 2017 at 11:44 am

    @sixthdoctor:

    The Senate Banking Committee has voted down Trump’s nominee to lead Export-Import Bank, ex-GOP Rep. Scott Garrett, 10-13. His nomination will not advance to the full Senate

    I’m curious, with a Senate that’s been voting to confirm “judges” who aren’t even fit to argue a case, Carson at HUD, and DeVos at Education, what exactly was the bridge too far in this case. He must really be bad!

  102. 102.

    ThresherK

    December 19, 2017 at 11:50 am

    This year’s Squidbillies special, “The War on the War on Christmas”, is a glorious hoot and a half.

  103. 103.

    Domestic Short Hair Tabby fka...

    December 19, 2017 at 11:54 am

    Looks like Emperor Palpatine

  104. 104.

    SFBayAreaGal

    December 19, 2017 at 12:01 pm

    I belong to a few Disney Facebook pages. The arguments have been hot and heavy about Butt Ugly Orange. So much so that the administrators have turned off commenting.

  105. 105.

    NotMax

    December 19, 2017 at 12:07 pm

    @catclub

    Have been aware of PVC tubas for a while now. Even linked to them them here a year or two (or three) ago,. While the sound is nearly equivalent (cannot speak to the range), the colors are something else. Baby blue and pastel pink, for example, keeping in mind that time plus exposure will unevenly fade or dull the surface of PVC.

  106. 106.

    JR

    December 19, 2017 at 12:15 pm

    @germy: everyone should close their twitter account

  107. 107.

    David Anderson

    December 19, 2017 at 12:16 pm

    @Fair Economist: This is interesting in that three judges have withdrawn themselves from consideration and now this…

    Interesting….

  108. 108.

    randy khan

    December 19, 2017 at 12:19 pm

    @Amir Khalid:

    He’s not Trump’s first totally unqualified nominee. Think of any of his Cabinet secretaries, or of that nominee for a federal judgeship who at his hearing failed a pop quiz on the basics of trial procedure.

    Exactly. So I’m trying to think of the bar that those folks cleared* and this guy didn’t. It practically would have to be underground.

    *Well, not the guy who couldn’t answer any questions, who withdrew before the committee vote.

  109. 109.

    randy khan

    December 19, 2017 at 12:21 pm

    @catclub:

    There’s a long history of plastic sousaphones, almost certainly longer than the other brass instruments. I do seem to recall, though, that there were plastic mouthpieces available back in my long-ago high school band days, for use on cold days. (We eschewed such things, and kept our mouthpieces warm (or at least not incredibly cold) by putting them in our pockets.)

  110. 110.

    Citizen Alan

    December 19, 2017 at 12:25 pm

    @sixthdoctor:

    Is it really a moment of sanity? Or is it because the Republicans don’t think we should even have an import-export Bank?

  111. 111.

    Tata

    December 19, 2017 at 12:39 pm

    @Fair Economist: Garrett was an awful congresscritter from NJ. We celebrated here when he finally lost an election, but the Dem who beat Garrett immediately went over the wall to vote with Republicans. But seriously, Garrett was a pill.

  112. 112.

    NotMax

    December 19, 2017 at 12:54 pm

    @>a href=”https://balloon-juice.com/2017/12/19/the-imagineers-hate-trumps-guts-too/#comment-6684269″>Citizen Alan

    Or a revealing moment of “Really, is this the worst you can come up with? Surely there must be someone more execrable you can nominate.”

  113. 113.

    Villago Delenda Est

    December 19, 2017 at 12:58 pm

    @Amaranthine RBG: And this post is why you are both despised and deprecated, Berniebro scum.

  114. 114.

    sixthdoctor

    December 19, 2017 at 1:07 pm

    @Citizen Alan: Not sure, but Garrett was anti-Ex Im as a congressman so he would have ran it like Mulvaney and DeVos run their departments, one assumes…

  115. 115.

    catclub

    December 19, 2017 at 1:58 pm

    @NotMax: I thought that after a series of really dull and ugly (but popular with people like Winton Marsalis) trumpets appeared, worries about what instruments look like would go away. I would be worried if a conductor chose appearance over sound.

  116. 116.

    NotMax

    December 19, 2017 at 2:01 pm

    @catclub

    Maestros are nothing if not finicky.

    ;)

  117. 117.

    catclub

    December 19, 2017 at 2:09 pm

    @NotMax: So I have heard. A pun!

  118. 118.

    David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch

    December 19, 2017 at 2:30 pm

    Lincoln saying: “I knew the Know-Nothings would win sooner or later”

  119. 119.

    Anotherlurker

    December 19, 2017 at 2:31 pm

    @Yarrow: Or, for really special shows, trump, the aminatron’s paints could catch fire!

  120. 120.

    J R in WV

    December 19, 2017 at 3:29 pm

    @randy khan:

    Shouldn’t that tie be about 6 or 8 inches longer, and an inch wider? Seems like that would be more accurate to me. He may have worn a tie like the robot once, but not typically in the White House.

    Plus the mouth, people are right about that. Way too normal looking. Needs to be pursed like he was sucking on a lemon. Sucking Hard!

  121. 121.

    J R in WV

    December 19, 2017 at 3:48 pm

    @catclub:

    My last year in H S Band, they got new plastic Sousaphones, to replace older and admittedly slightly dented silver plate brass horns. I was really disappointed, actually. They were lighter to carry and easier to play while marching in a half-time show or a parade, but they really didn’t have as good a sound as the old brass horns.

    55 pounds for the brass tubas, IIRC 35 or 40 for the plastic/fiberglass tubas. I liked the old Sousaphones. I imagine they donated them to another school, I hope so. They shouldn’t have laid in a back room, that’s for sure.

  122. 122.

    SgrAstar

    December 19, 2017 at 4:04 pm

    @PaulWartenberg: well said, Paul. I’d like to think that TNC is tougher than his detractors…he’s certainly a lot smarter.

  123. 123.

    LanceThruster

    December 19, 2017 at 5:34 pm

    The tie needs to be that big red belly warmer.

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