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You are here: Home / Open Threads / Excellent Links / STOP EVERYTHING YOU ARE DOING RIGHT NOW

STOP EVERYTHING YOU ARE DOING RIGHT NOW

by John Cole|  December 22, 20173:03 pm| 134 Comments

This post is in: Excellent Links, Assholes

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And go watch Mike Cernovich get rekt in a reddit AMA. It is everything you hope for an more:

cernovich is doing an AMA and even the moderator is dunking on him https://t.co/V8U2PFAISx pic.twitter.com/BCJS3ndUli

— Dan Fallon (@da_fallon) December 22, 2017

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  1. 1.

    Major Major Major Major

    December 22, 2017 at 3:06 pm

    I’ll just keep working on this short story, it seems like a better use of my time.

  2. 2.

    PaulWartenberg

    December 22, 2017 at 3:06 pm

    note to self:

    If I ever do a reddit forum, I need to prep myself for “Yo Mama” jokes by the dozens.

  3. 3.

    brendancalling

    December 22, 2017 at 3:06 pm

    I am loving this. Are you watching his live stream as he melts down?

  4. 4.

    rikyrah

    December 22, 2017 at 3:09 pm

    THE RACHEL MADDOW SHOW 12/21/17
    Report: Documents show W.H. lawyer told Trump Flynn broke law
    Rachel Maddow shares a report from Foreign Policy that White House counsel Don McGahn informed Donald Trump that Mike Flynn had broken the law, though the official White House line was that McGahn had said the opposite.

  5. 5.

    James E. Powell

    December 22, 2017 at 3:11 pm

    I agree with Atrios. I hate that I even know who Cernovich is. Currently shopping on zillow for hermit caves.

  6. 6.

    Tilda Swintons Bald Cap

    December 22, 2017 at 3:11 pm

    He is getting shit hammered over there.

  7. 7.

    rikyrah

    December 22, 2017 at 3:14 pm

    THE RACHEL MADDOW SHOW 12/21/17
    Wait, did Rep. Adam Schiff just drop a big hint?
    Rachel Maddow shares a piece of her interview with Rep. Adam Schiff in which he raises the question of whether Russians laundered money through the Trump Organization or guaranteed loans for the Trump Organization.

  8. 8.

    rikyrah

    December 22, 2017 at 3:16 pm

    THE RACHEL MADDOW SHOW 12/21/17
    Wyden emphasizes need to follow Trump money in Russia probe
    Senator Ron Wyden talks with Rachel Maddow about why it’s important for Trump Russia investigators to be able to follow Trump’s money, and why the distraction of the holidays is reason to be vigilant for Trump sneakiness.

  9. 9.

    rikyrah

    December 22, 2017 at 3:17 pm

    THE RACHEL MADDOW SHOW 12/21/17
    Trump appointee would force teen refugee to bear rapist’s child
    Brigitte Amiri, senior staff attorney at the ACLU’s reproductive freedom project, talks with Rachel Maddow about the fight to defend the reproductive rights of undocumented teens from Trump-appointed anti-abortion zealots in the Office of Refugee Resettlement.

  10. 10.

    TenguPhule

    December 22, 2017 at 3:17 pm

    Doug, give John Cole back his account.

  11. 11.

    John Cole

    December 22, 2017 at 3:20 pm

    @brendancalling: link

  12. 12.

    cain

    December 22, 2017 at 3:20 pm

    The Internet is a wonderful place. :D

    “Mike, buddy, big fan, long time listener – my question – how do you wake up every morning and resist the urge to swallow a bullet knowing that your lasting memory on this planet will amount to nothing more than a fecal stain on humanity?”

  13. 13.

    Raoul

    December 22, 2017 at 3:21 pm

    I don’t really understand AMAs. But this appears to be one of the top questions. And he hasn’t answered.

    Hey Michael, long-time follower here. In your blog post titled “When in Doubt, Whip it Out” you advocate for masturbating on top of women who don’t consent to intercourse. However, you’ve went on record on twitter claiming that masturbation is a “tool of cultural marxists” used to “criminalize normal sex”. Your stance isn’t completely clear, is masturbating on someone without their consent good or bad?

  14. 14.

    Ben Cisco (onboard the Defiant)

    December 22, 2017 at 3:23 pm

    Damn, ERRBODY is dunking on him. And not your regular dunks neither – it’s like NBA JAM except:

    -There’s a Antiope mod
    -Not only is the ball on fire, so is she, the basket, the court, the crowd, AND THE ARENA

  15. 15.

    oatler.

    December 22, 2017 at 3:26 pm

    The Balloon Juice header reminded me of the Subgenius book article “Throw This Book Against the Wall Right Now” but Dan Fallon’s Twitter was a pleasant surprise.

  16. 16.

    schrodingers_cat

    December 22, 2017 at 3:27 pm

    No.

  17. 17.

    tybee

    December 22, 2017 at 3:27 pm

    lmfao

    what a hoot

  18. 18.

    cain

    December 22, 2017 at 3:27 pm

    @Raoul:

    Nooo.. this one is:

    Hi Mike,

    I first wanted to thank you for your book Gorilla Mindset. It really helped me be a better man and take control of my life in a way that I badly needed. I also wanted to thank you for leading by example regarding how to fight back against people who are trying to put you down.

    I was wondering if I could ask you a personal question regarding some issues in my life to get some advice from someone who has helped me so much already:

    I currently am married with a baby and am living in my wife’s parents’ basement. Our marriage has at times been tense because I tend to be too much of an alpha for her. I feel like there’s a chance she’s going to leave me in the next year or so, and though I luckily have some alimony money from a previous divorce, I’m afraid that a lot of the unhinged things I’ve written on the internet will make it difficult to get custody of our baby. Any advice? And if you were me, how would you change my living situation, which is admittedly a bit emasculating?

    Thanks again for everything!

  19. 19.

    bago

    December 22, 2017 at 3:28 pm

    @Ben Cisco (onboard the Defiant): Now that’s some classic reference material right there.

  20. 20.

    Major Major Major Major

    December 22, 2017 at 3:29 pm

    @cain: Seems like a real winner.

  21. 21.

    cain

    December 22, 2017 at 3:29 pm

    @John Cole:

    I think he’s on periscope, so it is likely on twitter.

  22. 22.

    germy

    December 22, 2017 at 3:30 pm

    from Vikingsjslc: “Are your supplements better than Alex Jones’?”

  23. 23.

    Barbara

    December 22, 2017 at 3:33 pm

    Let’s see, my choices are to kick into high gear and leave early to visit my mother for Christmas or wander over to Reddit and “listen” to the mental masturbation of one of the most loathsome human beings on the planet. Gosh, what would you do?

  24. 24.

    germy

    December 22, 2017 at 3:34 pm

    [–]speedboat_dope 214 points an hour ago
    Hey Mike, what’s it like knowing that history will remember you as a powerfully stupid grifter who lives off alimony?

  25. 25.

    Original Lee

    December 22, 2017 at 3:34 pm

    Off topic: A family member who leans conservative has recently heard about voter suppression in the 2016 election (!) but doesn’t trust the source. I’ve been poking around a bit but want an impeccable source or two to send him because he’ll tune out forever if he thinks it’s unreliable or partisan. Suggestions?

  26. 26.

    r€nato

    December 22, 2017 at 3:34 pm

    the lithp puns and cracks are pretty ace as well

    “Gorilla Mindthet” FTW

  27. 27.

    r€nato

    December 22, 2017 at 3:35 pm

    @Original Lee: Try The Brennan Center, though I’m sure your right-leaning family member will easily write that off as liberal propaganda as well (even though it’s not).

  28. 28.

    hellslittlestangel

    December 22, 2017 at 3:37 pm

    I’ll settle for hearing about it third-hand (that’s the one you don’t use to masturbate on someone).

  29. 29.

    cain

    December 22, 2017 at 3:37 pm

    @Barbara:

    Let’s see, my choices are to kick into high gear and leave early to visit my mother for Christmas or wander over to Reddit and “listen” to the mental masturbation of one of the most loathsome human beings on the planet. Gosh, what would you do?

    No, what you’ll be seeing is Internet level take down of one of the most loathsome human beings on the planet while his reaction is filmed on twitter.

  30. 30.

    Jack the Second

    December 22, 2017 at 3:40 pm

    @rikyrah:

    Rachel Maddow shares a report from Foreign Policy that White House counsel Don McGahn informed Donald Trump that Mike Flynn had broken the law, though the official White House line was that McGahn had said the opposite.

    To be fair, Trump has horrible reading/listening skills. Whose to say that Trump understood the words McGahn was saying to him? Are we confident Trump even knows he is actually President, and not on a new reality TV show?

  31. 31.

    laura

    December 22, 2017 at 3:42 pm

    @Original Lee:
    Direct your relative to Rick Hasan. He’s really, really good, breaks down and explains the many facets of elections including suppression.

  32. 32.

    Starfish

    December 22, 2017 at 3:44 pm

    @Original Lee: You can’t win this. Conservatives think that snopes is a liberal conspiracy.

    Ask them what they find unreliable about the current source and dig deeper into it and have them convince themselves.

  33. 33.

    waspuppet

    December 22, 2017 at 3:46 pm

    More stuff that won’t make it into the fawning Cernovich NYT profile that we all know is coming by June at the latest, right?

  34. 34.

    debbie

    December 22, 2017 at 3:47 pm

    @rikyrah:

    I heard this morning that Trump was told prior to his asking Comey to go easy on Flynn.

  35. 35.

    Teddys Person

    December 22, 2017 at 3:48 pm

    Maybe this is his audition for Dolt45’s new press secretary when all the rats start jumping in January.

  36. 36.

    Mary G

    December 22, 2017 at 3:50 pm

    I’ve not been to an AMA before, but some of this is quite funny.

    Choosing between a hundred duck-sized horses and one horse-sized duck, would you kindly fuck off you rapist piece of shit?

    Doesn’t he have at least one actual fan to throw him a softball question to answer? Sad!

  37. 37.

    Lee

    December 22, 2017 at 3:50 pm

    There are many times reddit sucks. This is not one of those times.

    That AMA is will go down in reddit history (if not internet history).

    It is a thing of beauty.

  38. 38.

    Another Scott

    December 22, 2017 at 3:51 pm

    I’ll pass.

    But doesn’t this guy understand that AMA is an initialism for Ask Me Anything?

    Recognizing that he hasn’t been convicted and sentenced in a court of law, how is he even allowed (by his family and friends) out of his home in the morning when he apparently has this little understanding??

    (sigh)

    In other news, Donnie today signed a CR that will expire on January 19. RollCall – House extends Christmas Recess until January 8:

    House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy’s office announced Friday that the House will not kick off work for the second session of the 115th Congress until Monday, Jan. 8, with a customary 6:30 p.m. vote series.

    That means under the planned schedule there will be just eight legislative days for the House before the next government funding standoff, with the continuing resolution that became law Friday morning running through Friday, Jan. 19.

    The original House calendar had the chamber convening on Jan. 3. The Senate is still slated to return on that Wednesday.

    Governing via continual crisis is great, just like Steve Bannon says!!11 We might as well keep it up, eh?

    (sigh)

    Grr…

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  39. 39.

    Jager

    December 22, 2017 at 3:53 pm

    OT:
    The other day I took a playful shot at my Baby Aunt and Uncle (big farmers, big) about farm subsidies, hit a nerve. I looked at a list of farmers receiving subsidies in their county and they were in the top ten. Number. 1. was a sob I went to high school with…the closest he’s ever gotten to a wheat field is eating a fucking slice of bread.

    BTW, I can imagine the conversation, “So you won’t fuck me, how about if I just jerk off on you?”

  40. 40.

    debbie

    December 22, 2017 at 3:53 pm

    Has he answered any questions? Is he even there?

  41. 41.

    Mike J

    December 22, 2017 at 3:54 pm

    Matt Binder @MattBinder 2h
    if you’re following along with the Cernovich livestream, he’s now arguing with his wife because she’s trying to send him the “good questions” from the AMA but they’re being downvoted too quickly and he can’t find them

  42. 42.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    December 22, 2017 at 3:54 pm

    @Another Scott: Has Congress passed a budget since the Republicans took over? I’ve just been seeing CR after CR.

  43. 43.

    Leto

    December 22, 2017 at 3:58 pm

    @Raoul: AMA stands for Ask Me Anything. They typically host famous people, ranging from the world of science, television, literature… really anywhere, with the main goal of being having regular people ask questions to people they typically would never be able to talk to. President Obama did an AMA a few years back.

    Their AMA series is actually really good, but like with everything in life, you get trash like this. Fortunately the better parts of reddit arrived in force and we’re enjoying a Festivus miracle!

  44. 44.

    laura

    December 22, 2017 at 3:58 pm

    @Jager: just curious about those relatives – what is their position on welfare, and would they deny that farm subsidies are, in fact, welfare?

  45. 45.

    Raoul

    December 22, 2017 at 3:59 pm

    @Leto: So I now understand. And of course, he isn’t doing an Answer Anything. Actually, dude who hangs up on NPR reporter thinks Reddit will be kind? Precious.

    .@cernovich hangs up on NPR interviewer about to read his old rape tweets back to him https://t.co/qZLHNiICNI— Will Sommer (@willsommer) December 7, 2017

  46. 46.

    r€nato

    December 22, 2017 at 4:01 pm

    @debbie: he’s mostly taking VERY weak potshots at the commenters lighting him up. He seems to think “I am famous!” and “you’re talking about me!” are devastating rebuttals.

    His choices to retort to those questioning the proportions of his genitalia are rather revealing. Paging Dr. Freud.

    Cernovich? More like WhinyLittleBitch.

  47. 47.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    December 22, 2017 at 4:01 pm

    @laura:

    would they deny that farm subsidies are, in fact, welfare?

    Of course, welfare is only for “city folks”.

  48. 48.

    I'll be Frank

    December 22, 2017 at 4:03 pm

    wow, they just keep getting better:
    “For a guy who hates socialism so much, how do you feel about being publicly owned?”

    This is sooo funny. My in-laws can’t imagine what is making me grin so much.

  49. 49.

    TenguPhule

    December 22, 2017 at 4:03 pm

    @Jager:

    the closest he’s ever gotten to a wheat field is eating a fucking slice of bread.

    You do have a way with words.

  50. 50.

    Raoul

    December 22, 2017 at 4:03 pm

    @Mike J: Hah!
    Also, too, he’s delusional (and a complete, shit-ass propagandist)

    @Cernovich
    Thanks for making my Reddit AMA a huge success!
    2:56 PM – 22 Dec 2017

  51. 51.

    Ruviana

    December 22, 2017 at 4:04 pm

    @rikyrah: I’m reading Malcolm Nance’s book right now and I’d completely believe that this happened.

  52. 52.

    TenguPhule

    December 22, 2017 at 4:04 pm

    @?BillinGlendaleCA:

    Has Congress passed a budget since the Republicans took over?

    Nope.

  53. 53.

    Another Scott

    December 22, 2017 at 4:05 pm

    @?BillinGlendaleCA: Budgeting has been a problem for decades, and it got worse under the 2011 Budget Control Act, but I don’t recall multiple ~ month-long CRs in a row before.

    It seems like something’s gotta give – after all, if something can’t continue it won’t – but who knows.

    As Richard-David reminds us with respect to the PPACA, the Democrats hold a lot of good cards here. As Bill McBride at CalculatedRiskBlog reminds us, since Clinton’s presidency, the GOP isn’t stupid enough to threaten to cause a shut-down of the government during an election year. And Donnie and the GOP are getting decimated in public opinion polls. As a result of all this, we have a chance to make substantial progress on the budget and on policy this coming year, but we have to fight for it every single day.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  54. 54.

    TenguPhule

    December 22, 2017 at 4:06 pm

    @Another Scott:

    As Richard-David reminds us with respect to the PPACA, the Democrats hold a lot of good cards here.

    The problem is getting them to actually play them instead of constantly throwing them away.

  55. 55.

    karensky

    December 22, 2017 at 4:06 pm

    @Barbara: I’d get stoned and eat all the cookies from a cookie swamp and then go to The Last Jedi. ‘Bubye

  56. 56.

    debbie

    December 22, 2017 at 4:07 pm

    @r€nato:

    Thanks. I listened to the NPR interview where he hung up. Just another Bill O’Reilly wannabe.

  57. 57.

    Yutsano

    December 22, 2017 at 4:13 pm

    @BillinGlendaleCA: They passed the budget outline resolutions but no actual budget as I recall.

  58. 58.

    r€nato

    December 22, 2017 at 4:14 pm

    @debbie: a fifth-string O’Reilly without the wits. And sex appeal.

  59. 59.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    December 22, 2017 at 4:16 pm

    @Another Scott:

    Budgeting has been a problem for decades

    Used to be a problem here in CA too; got rid of the Republicans, problem solved.

  60. 60.

    r€nato

    December 22, 2017 at 4:16 pm

    He seriously believes (or claims to believe) that any attention at all is a massive win for him. Even when he’s being lit up like a Christmas tree and so far hasn’t managed even one mediocre rebuttal.

    the only way to fail is to have no comments.

  61. 61.

    Jager

    December 22, 2017 at 4:16 pm

    @laura:

    They are really good Catholics (my Aunt, as the Baby Uncle says, “by injection”) I’ve never heard them complain about welfare. They aren’t right wingers by any stretch. They’ve grown from one mid sized farm to what used to be 8 family farms. They used a lot migrant workers for potatoes and sugar beets years ago. They started by asking the migrants if they wanted to work year round for a salary and a house to live in. Those families now have grandchildren at the school where my Aunt taught for years. The school is now 18% Hispanic. They are good people, tons of volunteer work etc. The shot I took was in fun.. Then when I looked at the list, most of it was made up of long time families and quite a few don’t live there or haven’t sat on a tractor for a generation. My Uncle and his son still work the land. One of only two on the top ten list who do. My fraternal grand father was a farmer in the same area, when my WWII pilot dad came home he told my grandfather where he shove farm life (he’d seen Paree) if he hadn’t I’d guess I’d be collecting subsidies today.

  62. 62.

    Another Scott

    December 22, 2017 at 4:17 pm

    @Original Lee: Maybe the Brennan Center on Restricting the Vote?

    About:

    Our Mission
    The Brennan Center for Justice at NYU School of Law is a nonpartisan law and policy institute that seeks to improve our systems of democracy and justice. We work to hold our political institutions and laws accountable to the twin American ideals of democracy and equal justice for all. The Center’s work ranges from voting rights to campaign finance reform, from ending mass incarceration to preserving Constitutional protection in the fight against terrorism. Part think tank, part advocacy group, part cutting-edge communications hub, we start with rigorous research. We craft innovative policies. And we fight for them — in Congress and the states, the courts, and in the court of public opinion.

    HTH. Good luck, but don’t bang your head against a brick wall.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  63. 63.

    Original Lee

    December 22, 2017 at 4:17 pm

    @r€nato: he probably doesn’t know what it is, so I can attach some info at the top.

  64. 64.

    Another Scott

    December 22, 2017 at 4:18 pm

    @r€nato: GMTA.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  65. 65.

    Original Lee

    December 22, 2017 at 4:18 pm

    @laura: thanks!

  66. 66.

    Miss Bianca

    December 22, 2017 at 4:18 pm

    OMG, I barely know who this shitstain is. and I am LMAO.

    Note to self: If I ever decide to become a self-infatuated right-wing ‘journalist’, don’t presume that anyone is going to want to see or hear my bloviating in real time.

  67. 67.

    Original Lee

    December 22, 2017 at 4:19 pm

    @Starfish: he doesn’t consider blogs as reliable on principle.

  68. 68.

    Gin & Tonic

    December 22, 2017 at 4:20 pm

    @Ruviana: Malcolm Nance, unfortunately, knows far, far less about Russia than he pretends to on TV.

  69. 69.

    Original Lee

    December 22, 2017 at 4:21 pm

    @Another Scott: thanks. I’ll check it out.

  70. 70.

    Leto

    December 22, 2017 at 4:26 pm

    @Raoul: He probably figured that all the shitheels from r/TheDonald would come and they’d circle jerk over Killary memes, and how the Shitgibbon is “crushin’ it bro!”. No no… that’s not how this work.

  71. 71.

    MattF

    December 22, 2017 at 4:26 pm

    OT. Santa and Mrs. Claus are arriving shortly.

  72. 72.

    Mary G

    December 22, 2017 at 4:27 pm

    Oh my dog, this man has no shame:

    (WaPo)For two decades, the commander in chief has doled out distinguished-looking coins as personal mementos. Now, the presidential “challenge coin” has undergone a Trumpian transformation.

    The presidential seal has been replaced by an eagle bearing President Trump’s signature. The eagle’s head faces right, not left, as on the seal. The 13 arrows representing the original states have disappeared. And the national motto, “E pluribus unum” — a Latin phrase that means “Out of many, one” — is gone.

    Instead, both sides of the coin feature Trump’s official campaign slogan, “Make America Great Again.”

    The changes don’t stop there. In addition to his signature, Trump’s name appears three times on the coin, which is thicker than those made for past presidents. And forget the traditional subdued silver and copper: Trump’s coin, a White House aide marveled, is “very gold.”

    If you look at the pictures, it’s embarrassing as hell that this guy is handing out these cheesy trinkets.

  73. 73.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    December 22, 2017 at 4:31 pm

    @Mary G: Gawd, that’s tacky.

  74. 74.

    Amir Khalid

    December 22, 2017 at 4:32 pm

    I can’t stop what I’m doing. Liverpool threw away a 2-0 lead at Arsenal and went behind, but then they equalised and the game is now delicately balanced at 3-3. It’s a nailbiter.
    ETA: With better finishing, Liverpool could have settled this by halftime. Harumph.

  75. 75.

    r€nato

    December 22, 2017 at 4:33 pm

    @Mary G: It enrages me that every single ridiculous and untrue thing that Obama’s haters accused him of, Trump is guilty of in spades and then some.

    I was out to dinner with the aunt and uncle last night, who are visiting from out of town and staying with uncle’s sis (my mom). I found out that my folks have swallowed the whole bottle of blue pills. Not that it’s going to stop me, but every single dumbshit Trump supporter making idiotic comments on FB and elsewhere… that’s my goddamn folks. Ugh. Ordinarily I would never allow partisan politics to come between family, but I am just really aghast that they believe such profoundly stupid shit.

  76. 76.

    TenguPhule

    December 22, 2017 at 4:33 pm

    @Mary G: I feel ill. There is nothing he will not defile. Absolutely nothing.

  77. 77.

    Leto

    December 22, 2017 at 4:35 pm

    @Raoul: He’ll use that as validation that LibRUls are whiny cry babies, go on Fox and say, “Look, I made the libruls mad! See? They made fun of my lispth… they’re the true monsters!” and the grift will continue.

  78. 78.

    TenguPhule

    December 22, 2017 at 4:35 pm

    @Mary G:

    The White House offered conflicting accounts of which funds were used to purchase the coins, with one aide saying they were paid for by the White House and a second aide later saying that the Republican National Committee is covering the expense. An RNC spokeswoman confirmed Friday afternoon that the party is paying for the coins.

    “They’re going to be used in ways they haven’t been in the past,” said the second White House aide, adding that they may be distributed at campaign rallies and to donors.

    “Produce your papers Coin, Citizen.”

  79. 79.

    debit

    December 22, 2017 at 4:37 pm

    @r€nato: I’m so sorry. I have not spoken to my father about politics since before the election. We have an unspoken agreement that we won’t, because we both know that if either of us does our relationship is over forever.

  80. 80.

    laura

    December 22, 2017 at 4:38 pm

    @Jager: thanks Jager! They sound like really nice people. I can’t imagine farm life and it’s demands. In my area there’s a good amount of farming on a small scale-and the farmers market is chock full of abundance, but toll is evident in their hands and faces.

  81. 81.

    kindness

    December 22, 2017 at 4:39 pm

    Oh that was good. Thanks for the heads up John!

  82. 82.

    Miss Bianca

    December 22, 2017 at 4:41 pm

    @cain: that was the one that got me, too, I will confess it.

    ETA: I loved this one, too: “Hey Weird Mike, big fan of Alimony Mindset.

    Do have any advice for mentally unstable young men that don’t involved shooting up a pizzeria or harassing liberal video game developers and journalists?

    Also, is rape bad?”

    IS IT WRONG to be laughing?

  83. 83.

    Mary G

    December 22, 2017 at 4:41 pm

    More sadness from the coin article:

    As in past administrations, Trump’s Cabinet has gotten into the act, including Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke, who has a coin with his name on it.

    Spicer had one of his own that featuring a lectern on the back. A long time Navy reservist, he has amassed a collection of about 150 coins, including one presented to him from Bush at the White House when he was promoted to commander.

    Spicer estimated he ordered several hundred of his own coins, paying for them personally.

    One person with integrity:

    Not everyone in the Trump administration has followed the boss’s lead, however. Among those who do not have their own challenge coins is Defense Secretary Jim Mattis, a retired Marine Corps general.

    Asked why not, a spokeswoman replied: “It’s not about him. It’s about the person whose hand he is shaking.”

  84. 84.

    Mnemosyne

    December 22, 2017 at 4:49 pm

    @r€nato:

    He seriously believes (or claims to believe) that any attention at all is a massive win for him.

    Children are like that. He clearly has never emotionally matured past the age of about 12.

  85. 85.

    chris

    December 22, 2017 at 4:53 pm

    Gah! What a horrid little man! The epitome of, “Christ, what an asshole!”

    Fortunately Reddit has an antidote. Favourite cat picture of the day. Might have to look into volunteering at the local shelter.

  86. 86.

    Leto

    December 22, 2017 at 4:55 pm

    Asked why not, a spokeswoman replied: “It’s not about him. It’s about the person whose hand he is shaking.”

    Fucking this right here. Every. Aspect. Of. Life. He fucking infects and leaves nothing untouched. Reverse Midas Shitgibbon. FFS…

  87. 87.

    Mnemosyne

    December 22, 2017 at 4:57 pm

    @chris:

    The comments are priceless, too. ?

  88. 88.

    Jager

    December 22, 2017 at 4:57 pm

    @laura:

    Baby Uncle has sold some of the migrants the old farm houses with 5 or so acres of land, the families are making extra and decent money doing organic gardens. Yeah, good people, but we were all relieved when my cousin Katie got her Mom to stop calling the migrant’s kids, “My little brown ones” at school. What’s nice is the Polish-Irish-German and now Hispanic Catholic church has Mexican Food nights and pinatas for the kids. Nice things can change

  89. 89.

    r€nato

    December 22, 2017 at 4:58 pm

    @debit: oh we have that unspoken agreement as well, thankfully. Because otherwise it wouldn’t be very long before I said, “christ, you’re a fucking idiot.”

    What can one say to someone who seriously believes Obama is a Muslim because of the ring he wears… or that Fox News is every bit as legitimate a news source as NY Times… who has more than once dropped the N-bomb in front of me with regard to Obama… or, you know, supports every single thing Trump does, no matter how spiteful/childish/outrageous?

  90. 90.

    Captain C

    December 22, 2017 at 5:00 pm

    So, I saw where at one point Cerno claimed to be getting $9K/month from his ex. How does he still have to live in his parents’ basement with his wife and kid, then?

  91. 91.

    KithKanan

    December 22, 2017 at 5:03 pm

    @r€nato:

    What can one say to someone who seriously believes … that Fox News is every bit as legitimate a news source as NY Times…

    The NYT is trying, bless their hearts.

  92. 92.

    Miss Bianca

    December 22, 2017 at 5:06 pm

    @chris: the comments on that cat pic are so cute! I guess I may have to revise my opinion of reddit somewhat – there are some pretty witty people hanging out there!

  93. 93.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    December 22, 2017 at 5:06 pm

    @r€nato: The New York Times is garbage.

    (Somebody has to sub for Baud while he’s gallivanting about South America*.)

    *They stole our name, fuckem.

  94. 94.

    raven

    December 22, 2017 at 5:08 pm

    MONTGOMERY, Ala. (AP) — Alabama election officials say they will certify Democratic candidate Doug Jones’ upset victory over Republican rival Roy Moore next week.

    The Alabama Secretary of State announced in a statement Friday that the election results would be finalized next Thursday.

    Jones defeated Moore on Dec. 12 to become the first Democrat elected to the Senate from Alabama in a quarter-century. Moore was besieged by decades-old accusations of sexual misconduct involving teenage girls when he was in his 30s. He has denied the allegations.

    Moore has not conceded the race. In a Thursday fundraising letter to his supporters, Moore said he needs donations to investigate what he calls reports of fraud and irregularities in the election.

  95. 95.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    December 22, 2017 at 5:09 pm

    @raven:

    In a Thursday fundraising letter to his supporters, Moore said he needs donations to investigate what he calls reports of fraud and irregularities in the election.

    Grifters gonna grift.

  96. 96.

    rikyrah

    December 22, 2017 at 5:13 pm

    @?BillinGlendaleCA:

    All he knows is tacky

  97. 97.

    chris

    December 22, 2017 at 5:21 pm

    @Miss Bianca:Reddit is full of kind, smart and funny people. More of them, I think, than the, um, other kind.

  98. 98.

    Another Scott

    December 22, 2017 at 5:21 pm

    @r€nato: Maybe remind them of Eichenwald’s second Open Letter to Paul Ryan:

    I don’t believe Trump intended to incite his followers to shoot Clinton, but that is exactly his problem, the one I have seen since I first started covering him three decades ago. He just says things. His tongue moves so fast, it’s out the door before he’s out of bed. He says what he hopes is true. He attributes his biggest whoppers to anonymous others whispering things in his ears that no one else hears. (Many people are saying an Iranian scientist was killed because of Clinton’s emails; some people say Barack Obama’s birth certificate was a forgery; many people say he should host Meet the Press; a lot of people say a book of the Bible whose name he flubbed is called Two Corinthians rather than Second Corinthians.) He blusters and fumes and attacks when people challenge his nonsense, and he doesn’t even try to sound credible. He has spent too much time in business blustering, bullying and lying, and he isn’t about to stop now.That’s why anyone considering voting for Trump should read some of the depositions he has given over the years. Remember, this was testimony under oath. Either he consistently lies when under oath or his inability to recognize the truth is a symptom of a psychiatric disorder. I described in my previous letter to you how Trump lied in testimony before Congress. He explicitly stated he had held no discussions with anyone associated with Indian casinos about doing business with them…and then a congressman produced an affidavit, telephone records and letters proving that was a lie.

    It’s even more obvious that this was true then and continues to be true now.

    He’s brain damaged and is doing great damage to the USA and the Presidency. One doesn’t have to be a partisan hack to see that – one only needs to stop watching Fox news. :-(

    Good luck.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  99. 99.

    Another Scott

    December 22, 2017 at 5:22 pm

    @Another Scott: Help. I’m in moderation. :-(

    Thanks.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  100. 100.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    December 22, 2017 at 5:26 pm

    @Another Scott: You said a bad word.

  101. 101.

    Another Scott

    December 22, 2017 at 5:28 pm

    @?BillinGlendaleCA: Yup. Casinos.

    Grr…

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  102. 102.

    Miss Bianca

    December 22, 2017 at 5:33 pm

    @r€nato: My brother is fond of posting these pro-Trump, anti-HRC memes on FB. I’ve decided that my generic response is “Projection…it’s not just for movie theaters anymore!”

  103. 103.

    Another Scott

    December 22, 2017 at 5:38 pm

    @r€nato: I guess the Front Pagers are out partying, or fighting the mobs on the on-line stores. Trying again…

    Maybe remind them of Eichenwald’s second Open Letter to Paul Ryan:

    I don’t believe Trump intended to incite his followers to shoot Clinton, but that is exactly his problem, the one I have seen since I first started covering him three decades ago. He just says things. His tongue moves so fast, it’s out the door before he’s out of bed. He says what he hopes is true. He attributes his biggest whoppers to anonymous others whispering things in his ears that no one else hears. (Many people are saying an Iranian scientist was killed because of Clinton’s emails; some people say Barack Obama’s birth certificate was a forgery; many people say he should host Meet the Press; a lot of people say a book of the Bible whose name he flubbed is called Two Corinthians rather than Second Corinthians.) He blusters and fumes and attacks when people challenge his nonsense, and he doesn’t even try to sound credible. He has spent too much time in business blustering, bullying and lying, and he isn’t about to stop now.That’s why anyone considering voting for Trump should read some of the depositions he has given over the years. Remember, this was testimony under oath. Either he consistently lies when under oath or his inability to recognize the truth is a symptom of a psychiatric disorder. I described in my previous letter to you how Trump lied in testimony before Congress. He explicitly stated he had held no discussions with anyone associated with Indian casinos about doing business with them…and then a congressman produced an affidavit, telephone records and letters proving that was a lie.

    It’s even more obvious that this was true then and continues to be true now.

    He’s brain damaged and is doing great damage to the USA and the Presidency. One doesn’t have to be a partisan hack to see that – one only needs to stop watching Fox news. :-(

    Good luck.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  104. 104.

    Aleta

    December 22, 2017 at 5:40 pm

    Cernovich truly is not very bright is he? It’s good to know that. At the same time, a reminder that someone not-too-smart can still do a lot of harm if he has influence.

  105. 105.

    debbie

    December 22, 2017 at 5:40 pm

    @r€nato:

    I can relate. My family went Trump, and other than hospitalizations and relatives’ passings, there’s been minimal contact. I post just about every anti-Trump thing I can find, but no one seems to have blocked me yet.

  106. 106.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    December 22, 2017 at 5:41 pm

    @Another Scott: I see you said “green balloons” three times and have been freed.

  107. 107.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    December 22, 2017 at 5:42 pm

    @Aleta:

    a reminder that someone not-too-smart can still do a lot of harm if he has influence

    Yeah, like that Trump fella.

  108. 108.

    TenguPhule

    December 22, 2017 at 5:44 pm

    @Miss Bianca:

    IS IT WRONG to be laughing?

    No, They’ve crossed the line at least twice so it should be considered safe.

  109. 109.

    Mike in NC

    December 22, 2017 at 5:45 pm

    Hey, those shitty Trump challenge coins will be accepted as currency at any of his sleazy properties.

  110. 110.

    Raoul

    December 22, 2017 at 5:45 pm

    @Leto: He is a shitstain. But I don’t like seeing people mock his lisp. C’mon, folks, he has so many chosen traits to bash him for.
    Yeah, that’s some PC concern trolling I guess. But hoist him by his petard, not a speech impairment.

  111. 111.

    Raoul

    December 22, 2017 at 5:49 pm

    @raven: I would expect that Republican John Merrill of Tuscaloosa County, AL, the S.O.S., has done his level best to look for ways to not certify.

    Moore is just a self-promoting, twice unseated ex-judge working his latest grift. Buh-bye, loser.

  112. 112.

    EricNNY

    December 22, 2017 at 5:54 pm

    That was delightful. I’m going back to laugh more.

  113. 113.

    MomSense

    December 22, 2017 at 5:57 pm

    I picked the worst day to Christmas shop. The roads are terrible. Think they’ll notice me if I crash in one of the tents in the Bean’s camping department?

  114. 114.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    December 22, 2017 at 5:59 pm

    @MomSense: Tomorrow or Sunday would probably be worse.

  115. 115.

    Raven

    December 22, 2017 at 6:12 pm

    @Raoul: punk ass MP officer

  116. 116.

    Another Scott

    December 22, 2017 at 6:18 pm

    @?BillinGlendaleCA: Nope. I just reposted it – with the magic blank HTML tags in Casino to get by the FYWP trap. My original is still in the dungeon. :-/

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  117. 117.

    chris

    December 22, 2017 at 6:18 pm

    @MomSense: Try on some camo and hide under the moose.

  118. 118.

    TS

    December 22, 2017 at 6:29 pm

    @Another Scott:

    He’s brain damaged and is doing great damage to the USA and the Presidency

    He is turning what was once a democracy into a hell hole on earth. In this he receives much help from a republican congress. Watching people fawn all over him while he takes from the poor to give to the rich is horrendous – He is teaching Kim Jong-un how it should be done.

  119. 119.

    MomSense

    December 22, 2017 at 6:30 pm

    @?BillinGlendaleCA:

    We’re expecting freezing rain to start tomorrow so it will definitely be worse.

    @chris:

    Ha!! I could always pretend to be a mannequin in the hunting department.

  120. 120.

    Aleta

    December 22, 2017 at 6:31 pm

    @MomSense: I know two people whose first date was in one of those showroom tents. They’re married now.

  121. 121.

    Adrift

    December 22, 2017 at 6:46 pm

    I know that no one else is still here but I just scanned the reddit along with the persicope podcast and have to say that when Gorilla Mindset was recast as Rhesus Thesis I smiled then laughed like hell.

    ETA feel free to point and yell threadkiller. I’m used to it.

  122. 122.

    MomSense

    December 22, 2017 at 6:58 pm

    @Aleta:

    That qualifies as a “meet cute”.

  123. 123.

    chris

    December 22, 2017 at 7:03 pm

    @MomSense: That might be fun. I always wonder who shops there at three AM. On second thought, maybe not.

  124. 124.

    AnotherBruce

    December 22, 2017 at 7:35 pm

    @Mary G: Where did he put the swastika?

  125. 125.

    Brachiator

    December 22, 2017 at 7:41 pm

    @MomSense:

    I picked the worst day to Christmas shop. The roads are terrible.

    A couple of co-workers did almost all their shopping on line, via Amazon. I’m not there yet, but getting close.

  126. 126.

    father pusbucket

    December 22, 2017 at 7:52 pm

    @chris: Cool! My wife recently got us that very tree.

  127. 127.

    MomSense

    December 22, 2017 at 7:57 pm

    @Brachiator:

    I always make a trip that way so I can stop at my favorite bookstore and a couple other small shops. I’m not quite ready to give up my routine yet.

  128. 128.

    scott alloway

    December 22, 2017 at 8:29 pm

    @Miss Bianca: No. But laughter should be accompanied by mocking.

  129. 129.

    HumboldtBlue

    December 22, 2017 at 8:49 pm

    Far too late to the thread, but damn that has made for some damn fine reading, Cernovich.

    Edit: Follow up, did you choose Gorilla Mindset because you’re a huge wimp and an intellectual lightweight and needed to project a facade of strength and might that everyone could see through or is it because- like a gorilla- you do not understand the English language and poop while walking?

  130. 130.

    Gravenstone

    December 22, 2017 at 8:55 pm

    @hellslittlestangel: But the third hand is the gripping hand. What exactly are you gripping?

    /em backs away slowly for fear of the answer

  131. 131.

    J R in WV

    December 22, 2017 at 9:22 pm

    Pretty good stuff, that guy is a total jerk-wad. And Reddit users put him exactly where he deserved to be.

  132. 132.

    sharl

    December 22, 2017 at 9:33 pm

    Hahaha

    StormlightHero5 102 points 6 hours ago
    This is the best AMA in a long while

    Thernobinch 32 points 5 hours ago
    I wish it would never end. His Periscope stream has been fucking priceless.

    emizeko 11 points 5 hours ago
    https://www.pscp.tv/w/1MnGngZLnbVJO

    Thernobinch 27 points 5 hours ago
    God hook it right to my veins.

    emizeko 28 points 4 hours ago
    ~28m50s:

    There is no hot woman who does not like Mike Cernovich. Now I’m not saying they all like me, but all of my haters who are female, are only haters because they know they could never have me.

    Thernobinch 18 points 4 hours ago
    Someone call the police and have this guy arrested for murder because I am D-E-A-D DEAD.

  133. 133.

    Tata

    December 22, 2017 at 10:45 pm

    @Original Lee: Compulsory voting, as it is practiced around the world, is your best argument, because how could anyone arguing for democracy argue against democracy.

  134. 134.

    The Simp in the Suit

    December 23, 2017 at 12:04 pm

    @r€nato:

    … or that Fox News is every bit as legitimate a news source as NY Times…

    Well shit, we were just discussing over the breakfast table how the fucking New York fucking Times is a fucking embarrassment. It’s not that Fox is as legitimate as the Times, it’s that the Times is morphing into something as illegitimate as Fox.

    The rest of the discussion was about strategies about how to get The Post delivered to relatives out west who want it but who hate reading online.

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