Here’s fodder for the Apple haters: I’ve been attempting to connect/upgrade four iPhones today, and it has been hellish. Since approximately 2:30 pm ET.
We introduced an iPhone X to our group of four and swapped the next three units’ apps, photos, settings, phone numbers, etc. What a fucking nightmare. ALWAYS go to the store.
Anyhoo, I sincerely hope your evening is going better. Open thread!
Mary G
@Mnemosyne: I saw in an earlier thread that you have a huge crush on otters, but before you rush up to snorgle one, you might want to read this Vox piece:
The case against otters: necrophiliac, serial-killing fur monsters of the sea. There’s some pretty awful stuff in there; here’s a less nasty bit:
I was disappointed, I always thought they were cuddly.
Baud
It’s not, but thanks for the well wishes.
Here’s an interesting article on Warren’s non-single-payer health care plan.
p.a.
Well what language should we learn now? Is Chinese still the future, or is Russian coming up on the rail?
Don
Of course one could go to the Android Store if one has issues with a, say, Galaxy. Oh, wait. Where are the nearly 400 Android stores?
lamh36
Huckabee betta watch out…he gonna fill the positions with Ivanka clones from here on out..
Betty Cracker
@Mary G: I love otters too and am aware of the rumors of bad behavior you’ve described. But why shouldn’t we judge otters as individuals? I’d hate to know the aggregate quotient of bad behavior from humans! Still, petting an otter would be a bad idea. Best to admire from afar!
MisterForkbeard
@lamh36: Only the best Ivanka impersonators for Trump.
Baud
@MisterForkbeard: Any one he sleeps with.
Betty Cracker
@Don: There are tons of Apple Stores too; we were just dumb enough to think we could handle it ourselves.
Major Major Major Major
Remember restoring your PC from 300 sequential floppies? Good times.
ETA yes yes you’re all much older and wiser and remember restoring the vacuum-tube PC you made in your garage with melted down toys for solder, from 30,000 tape reels
Mike J
The only reason to ever go to the Apple store is Dr Kevorkian is permanently booked. Every single time I’ve been I’ve had to deal with morons who know less than I do about an OS I don’t care for in the first place. I have never had an Apple problem that any employee there could solve without calling tech support and skipping over a few levels.
RSA
I used to say that Apple products are great when they work, and they usually do, but they’re much harder to figure out when they break (compared with their competitors). Over the past several years I think Apple quality has gone down significantly, though, so the latter issue is more prominent.
I’m typing this on a Mac, and my main phone is an iPhone, but that’s more inertia than anything else.
Baud
I guess I’m lucky. I’ve never had a problem with a device I couldn’t solve myself.
Mnemosyne
@Mary G:
Otters are still predators, even if they’re adorable predators. Male cats will kill kittens. Mother dogs will kill and eat their puppies. Nature red in tooth and claw, and all that.
Hell, never read up on ducks. Sociopathic little rapist bastards. ?
Baud
@RSA: iOS 11 is garbage. It really slowed down my iPad mini.
Adam L Silverman
@Betty Cracker: Actually I had something similar happen when I upgraded my iPad in December. Despite having done a full back up via iTunes, when I went to set the new one up specifically selecting set up from an existing backup via iTunes, it didn’t move everything. I got all the apps. All the music and videos. My email settings and everything moved without issue as did bookmarks, favorites, and reading lists. Pictures and files in pages, keynote, and numbers did not make the transition. So I had to manually select them and airdrop them into their proper places.
I took my Mom to the Apple store a few weeks ago to upgrade her iPad. I mentioned this to the sales person and she said it sounded like an OS issue. She says they get occasional reports that this happens on new devices. When I got home that night and set up the Mominator’s new iPad – same process as I did for mine – everything moved without an issue at all. All the apps, settings, photos, music, files, etc moved over via the iTunes set up. Not a single hiccup.
dmsilev
@Major Major Major Major: Urgh, yes I remember.
Could be worse. One year in elementary school, the teacher had scrounged up a couple of large boxes of old punched cards, which we of course used to build card buildings and the like. I understand that dropping a deck was basically “go up to the roof of the building and jump off” levels of suckiness.
Schlemazel
@p.a.:
The CHinese will do away with the Russians when the time is right. They are a very old civilization and have learned patience. Meanwhile they sit back & laugh while Russia tears the West apart.
Emerald
@Mary G:
I am devastated. I adore otters.
In better news, I had an abnormal EKG in prep for hip replacement surgery and they thought I had angina. Echocardiogram yesterday was NORMAL! HAH! Surgery is a go! I’ll be back surfing again in six months!
Corner Stone
@dmsilev: He was trying to stop old codgers like you from doing this. But he chose…poorly.
kindness
???? Betty didn’t you back up the phone you were replacing? Ever? I do it when I update my iTunes playlist.
magurakurin
it’s not hate, it’s indifference. They are toasters. machines. tools. Apple products are simply too expensive for me. I can’t pay that much for a toaster. All machines have their good points, bad points and bad days.
Schlemazel
@dmsilev:
Smart programmers numbered their cards. Yeah, it was a pain to put them all back in order but it was not hard
Amir Khalid
@Mary G:
Everyone has an ugly side. No exceptions.
Schlemazel
@magurakurin:
Exactly! Each has advantages & disadvantages. Learn to take advantage of the good parts & work around the bad crap. I am old enough to remember the religious war between TRS80 & Apple][. I used both & to me there was no real advantage either way
Major Major Major Major
@Mnemosyne: and don’t even get me started on dolphins!
Baud
@magurakurin: Cost is my main reason for staying out of the Apple ecosystem.
Mary G
@Baud: @Mnemosyne: Swans are vicious. And not graceful out of water, but fast.
Major Major Major Major
@magurakurin: your future cylon overlords will not be amused to read this.
Ceci n est pas mon nym
I get irritated that Apple devices want to share stuff by default that I choose not to share. My iPhone loads apps that I put on the iPad, that make no sense on the small screen. My desktop tells me iPhone is ringing. I don’t want my phone alerts showing up on the computer.
I know you can turn this stuff off, but it irritates me that I have to go through extra steps to research how, and that TMI is the default.
Roger Moore
@p.a.:
Assembly. It’s what our AI masters will use.
magurakurin
@Baud: so, basically Clinton’s stump proposals minus the public option that Clinton floated. It seems like a reasonable proposal that might get some of itself through the Congress, but it still positions her to the right of Hillary Clinton. Oh, but Warren supports Bernie’s fantasy Medicare for All so, liberal champion as opposed to neo-liberal, corporate whore. Hillary Clinton, however, didn’t vote for Nixon, Ford, Reagan, Reagan, and Bush…
I still want some one younger for Prez. No one eligible fro SSI on the ballot for POTUS in 2020 from the Dem side.
Jay
@Emerald:
In the wild, they are “just” animals, with a whole host of “less than ethical” survival and breeding strategies,
The bad news:
https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.cbc.ca/amp/1.4586867
The good news:
https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.thedodo.com/amphtml/in-the-wild/woman-befriends-wingless-bumblebee
EBT
@Mary G: Mustelids would eat you if they were big enough to. Shit, look at Ozzy the Least Weasel, he is smaller than a penis and he will try to kill his owner.
magurakurin
@Major Major Major Major: and they probably will read it since Facebook is probably logging all these posts as well…
EBT
Unmoderate me?
Omnes Omnibus
@Mary G: They are related to wolverines. Just saying.
TenguPhule
Its your own damn fault. /s
Baud
@magurakurin: I don’t plan to vote for her in the primary. But Dems will need to do something on health, and I thought it was interesting that a single payer advocate is now proposing a more incremental plan. Hopefully it signals that the single player die hards will not have many allies when it’s time to get the votes to do something.
TenguPhule
@Mary G:
Cracked did it better.
Gelfling 545
@Mike J: wow. My experience has been completely different. Not only do they get the problem fixed they look and see if there’s anything else thst might be awry and if so usually fix it at no extra cost. Of course in 20 years I’ve only had to go there 3 or 4 times. My granddaughter took her phone back to AT&T 3 times. I took her to Apple & they fixed it in a couple of hours. It’s iPhone 5 and still growing strong.
different-church-lady
I’ve been using Apple computers for more years than I care to think about, stuck with them thru thick and thin, defended them during the dark days, evangelized, promoted, etc. etc…. and the convoluted way data backups work on the iPhone makes me want to punch the corpse of Steve Jobs in the neck.
And this kind of stuff is starting to slop over into the Mac as well. I keep thinking, “Apple, I used to love you so much, what is happening to us?”
TenguPhule
@p.a.:
How’s your Hannibal?
JerryRich
I just got through upgrading my Galaxy S5 to S9+ without much hassle. I panicked a bit when I saw no Wifi Calling, but discovered they renamed the feature to Calling +, just to confuse the yokels.
Jay
@Schlemazel:
I use an Iphone, simply because in the Phone Store, it was the only smartphone I could turn on and navigate.
Mnemosyne
@Betty Cracker:
A local aquarium offers a “premium experience” where you get a behind the scenes look at both the otters AND an octopus.
It’s pretty much my dream afternoon if I win the lottery and can justify the $350.
Baud
@JerryRich: I just got an S8. Gotta admit the S9s look sweet, but not enough to upgrade early and pay extra.
TenguPhule
@Major Major Major Major:
2.5 disks weren’t much better.
TenguPhule
@Mnemosyne:
Chinatown knows exactly what to do with them.
And they taste delicious.
JR
@Schlemazel: Why would China expand its borders into Russia? The eastern provinces of Russia are more or less worthless, from an economic standpoint.
different-church-lady
@Gelfling 545: Last time I went to an Apple store I brought in a ten year old desktop that had hardware it would cost me a lot to replace. The guy said, “Well, we don’t support this thing anymore…”, then tried his best to revive it, and then (completely against rules and on the sly) told me where to find a service manual online so I could continue the effort on my own.
TenguPhule
@Schlemazel:
Actually the current powers in charge pretty much killed off or pissed on all of the old wisdom.
Gonna be interesting once their bells come off too.
magurakurin
@Baud: it is interesting. I saw yesterday that the Medicare for More proposal, which is more or less using Medicare as a public option, had 75% approval while Medicare for All was 59%.
Omnes Omnibus
@TenguPhule: The French are no slouches. They even torture the corpse.
Major Major Major Major
@TenguPhule: for a second I forgot the thread and thought you were talking about otters!
dexwood
Otters are assholes, too? Fucking mammals. . .
TenguPhule
@JR:
Pride and access to more living room.
lamh36
Steeplejack
@lamh36:
Caroline Sunshine, bringing the wide expertise and experience of her 22 years
in public affairsof life to the White House Press team.RSA
@Baud:
Very annoying when a new software release fixes problems (like security holes) but causes other problems (like performance and of course new bugs). I’m torn with the iOS devices I own, about whether to update them or not.
Baud
@magurakurin: Not too surprised. The fact is, there are a lot of people who have been taught not to trust the government and who would be opposed to be part of a single payer system.
TenguPhule
@Omnes Omnibus: I am a simple man who enjoys his duck just one way. Because it is very good that way.
I’ve tried the french version and don’t agree with adding citrus to it.
Steve in the ATL
@Betty Cracker: my otterphilic daughter got to play with the otters at the Georgia Aquarium. She was so moved that she could barely speak for several hours. Almost inspired me to get some otters for the house just to get some peace and quiet!
ETA: there was no octopus involved.
TenguPhule
@magurakurin:
And eventually plotting to kill us all.
TenguPhule
@different-church-lady:
They got rich and you’ve matured.
Major Major Major Major
@TenguPhule: there are many French versions that aren’t l’orange. Confit, most famously.
different-church-lady
@TenguPhule: There’s an xkcd for every circumstance.
Omnes Omnibus
@lamh36: Thank you.
TenguPhule
@EBT:
Only at Balloon Juice.
raven
@Major Major Major Major: Duck gumbo is a motherfucker.
different-church-lady
@TenguPhule: No, they were rich long before I matured.
I think it’s more like, “Steve died, and we learned all the wrong stuff from his crazy-ass control freakiness.”
Waratah
When I updated IOS 11 on my IPad the first time I was unable to message my daughter who has android. I can only message other Apple users.
She is who I message the most and now I use the dreaded Facebook messenger if I don’t want to grab my IPhone which will let me message her.
Major Major Major Major
@EBT: @TenguPhule: I love mustelids. I had two ferrets growing up. And ‘least weasel’ is one of my favorite animal names.
TenguPhule
@Major Major Major Major:
To be fair, I think they learned that from us.
Omnes Omnibus
@TenguPhule: I would have thought that this would appeal to your more basic instincts.
lamh36
James E. Powell
@magurakurin:
Every time someone says this, I ask for names. Not to be a dick, but because I really want to know.
TenguPhule
@Major Major Major Major: I like ferrets and otters. Japan’s aquariums all seem to mandate an otter or penguin exhibit for their cuteness. And they have petting cafes for ferrets and hedgehogs.
Steve in the ATL
@raven: that’s what we did with most of the ducks we shot
Jay
@TenguPhule:
The technical terms for Russia’s Eastern Provinces are underdeveloped and underexplored. There’s significant oil, gas and minerals there, some were mapped out in the 1930’s, but the Soviets, later the Russian’s, never got around to developing them.
They had stuff closer to hand and still do.
TenguPhule
@Omnes Omnibus: Too much irony.
gene108
@Waratah:
Go to Messages in Settings. Scroll down and enable SMS.
Solved my issue of a friend not receiving texts from my iPhone.
Shana
@Ceci n est pas mon nym: I agree, but it’s kind of nice to have my email show up on my laptop and my phone showing as new only once not on both devices.
Mary G
@lamh36: @Steeplejack: He said to Smithers: get me Megyn Kelly 3.0, Stat!
Seriously, the short, tight sleeveless dress is almost a uniform for young Republican women.
Seriously, this is the 4th or 5th day with Twitler holed up and sulking.
Emerald
@Jay: Awwww!
What a wonderful story! Who’d ‘a thunk it of an insect?
RSA
@different-church-lady:
I’m usually pretty understanding about software, but a last year I ran into an iTunes bug. Okay. I search for a solution, and I discover that this same bug has been mentioned on apple.com discussion boards since 2013 and it is still not fixed in 2018…
It’s kind of sad, also kind of rage-making.
raven
@Shana: I like writing notes on one of my “devices” and having them on all of them.
Major Major Major Major
@RSA: iTunes is terrible.
magurakurin
@Baud: and some people do have decent coverage from their work. Step by step is the only way to get there. That was obvious in 2015 and it is obvious now. Sad that we had to have the senseless debates about in the primary and then have some people sit out the election because of it. really sad.
Amir Khalid
@Jay:
If the post-communist government had put its resources to work developing the region, instead of letting greedy people devour them, think of the Russia that could have been …
Dorothy A. Winsor (formerly Iowa Old Lady)
“Always go to the store” is good advice. At this point in my life, there are many things I don’t know how to do with electronic devices. But I know how to swipe my credit card.
magurakurin
@James E. Powell: I want to see more from Kamala Harris and Cory Booker. I would be curious to see what Devel Patrick might offer if he throws his hat into the ring.
Major Major Major Major
@magurakurin:
It was obvious in 2008 but that didn’t stop everybody from complaining then either.
Waratah
@gene108: thank you I will try that. My smarty pants son could not help me.
Jay
@Emerald:
In the spring, ( running late here), I wander around with a tablespoon and a bottle of simple sugar, picking up the bumble bees, warming them up in my hand, and feeding them.
Schlemazel
@JR:
Who said anything about them invading? Russia is doing a damn fine job of destroying the West right now & no army has moved anywhere other than into Crimea.
Adam L Silverman
@Waratah: Go to settings, then messages, then scroll down and make sure that “send as SMS” is toggled on. If it isn’t toggle it on. If it is, toggle it off, then toggle it back on. That should fix it.
magurakurin
@Major Major Major Major: good point. And the fact that Medicare for More is polling so well just reminds what a piece of shit Joe Lieberman was for tanking the public option. Dick.
Schlemazel
@Amir Khalid:
If the wingnuts running the US government during that period of time had helped the instead of exploiting them Russia might be a very different place today too.
lamh36
@lamh36:
And they still decided not to prosecute…
different-church-lady
@Major Major Major Major: It’s inexplicably terrible. Do they really think that’s the right way to do things?
Major Major Major Major
@magurakurin: ugh, I’d forgotten about that.
Major Major Major Major
@different-church-lady: yeah it’s like they spun off just that one application to Microsoft circa 2003.
magurakurin
@Major Major Major Major: sorry to remind you. What was Al Gore thinking when he picked him? damn.
Jay
@Amir Khalid:
The post Communist Government was broke, there was very little external financial support, and the West sent over Austerian School Vulture Capitalists to advise the Russian Government on “privatisation”.
There were millions of “excess deaths” in Yeltsen’s Russia and it drives Russian fealty to Putin to this very day.
Corner Stone
@Major Major Major Major:
Weren’t you like 20 then?
Major Major Major Major
@Corner Stone: 22, so?
Jeffro
@magurakurin: amen! Fresh faces!!
frosty
@Jay: I’ve got an iPhone SE because in the Verizon store it was the only one that would fit in the watch pocket of my jeans, which is where all my phones, starting with the little LG flip, have resided. I’m crossing fingers that it doesn’t die or get obsolete for the next 20 years.
I was the last in the family to join the cult.
Waratah
@gene108: I found on messages on my iPhone where I could allow messages to go to my iPad. Thank you I would not have known where to look. I am a million miles from an Apple store.
Mnemosyne
@different-church-lady:
What Steve Jobs was able to do was explain to the engineers how actual non-engineer people would use the product. I’m not sure there’s anyone in the company now who can do that.
Mnemosyne
I got my new glasses, including the computer/reading progressives. They definitely work better than my regular distance glasses.
lamh36
Ugh…I want so much to combine the Parkland kids gun control momemtum with the things like the Alton Sterling killing, and Stephon Clark, and Mike Brown, and Trayvon…the list goes on… but I hate that I KNOW that will kill the momentum…
We all know it…one link to BLM and pretty much the momentun evaporates…
And I FUQ’N hate that I’m pretty much sure that would be the case…
All this does is make me even angrier at folks who basically gave the election to Chump because Russia, or 3rd party, or Bernie-bros, or “their all the same”, or deplorables…or WHATEVER!
Mahn…if I had Oprah type money, I’d get the hell out of this country and only return to vote and spend my money to get each and every fucker out of office!
Steeplejack
@EBT:
Is penis a bad word again?
ETA: Damn it!
different-church-lady
@Mnemosyne: I think Jobs’ brilliance was in the fact that he was the “first user” of all their products, and he insisted (to the point of being an outright asshole) that they work well. He was the ultimate customer advocate as far as operability was concerned.
He wasn’t always right in his opinions, but he was right often enough that the users could feel that someone who designed the thing cared about them.
And you’re probably right: there’s nobody at Apple who can fill those shoes.
Waratah
@Adam L Silverman: thank you Adam I found a place to allow my message from the phone to go to the iPad right above the sms thing and I think I have solved my problem. I have not ever had to do that before.
Steeplejack
@Steeplejack:
What about socialism? Is that a bad word again?
ETA: So just penis. All righty, then.
RSA
@Major Major Major Major:
Not that corporations can feel shame, but when one releases such a terrible product… I wonder if anyone has every publicly asked Tim Cook, “Why is iTunes such a piece of shit, and why has it been that way for so many years?”
lamh36
Omnes Omnibus
@lamh36: I thought that the LA march did explicit linkage between BLM and school shootings. I also saw several photos with people with “don’t shoot” written on their palms so that it could only be seen when their hands were up.
Mike J
@RSA:
Nobody who will admit that Apple isn’t infallible is allowed within shouting distance.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
that’s gonna get under the orange skin
Adam L Silverman
@Waratah: You’re welcome. It occasionally borks itself. I had to do a reset about three weeks ago and it took me a while to get everything reconfigured and I wound up having to phone a friend so to speak.
M. Bouffant
Anyone know why Balloon Juice hasn’t shown up in feedly for the last six days?
Major Major Major Major
@M. Bouffant: something screwy is going on with feedly/RSS, there was a post about it this morning.
M. Bouffant
@Major Major Major Major: Thanks. Not having seen a post in several days, I didn’t know.
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
So I stopped taking my local newspaper about 3-4 years ago (Gannett had bought it years ago and turned it into USA Today Local – the content was shit). Every so often over the last decade, I’ve gotten occasional hand-delivered hate mail because I’m an abrasive, unabashed and outspoken liberal from an old labor perspective as to local online communities – I’m nearly IWW in economic perspective, pro-reparations (although my youngest daughter views me as the lesser incarnation of TrumpClinton because I really don’t give a flying fuck about about letting my life revolve around the trans community, gender pronouns or hurt feelings about how I don’t ask people their preference on gender pronouns). There’s a local klukker leader about 7 miles away, and he does have a following.
Anyway, yesterday my mailbox was open when I came home. As I arrived, I noted that a newspaper was hanging out. The headline was about how white supremacist recruiting in the area is on the upswing. Today, there was no paper – I didn’t expect one.
Fuckers are stepping up their game. My mil grade long guns need a trip to the armorer (this is expensive, I’m cheap), but I’m happy to do so whilst loading up and practicing with the more modern goodies. In the meantime, I’m keeping a careful eye on the dog and locking the house down hard on a daily basis.
Omnes Omnibus
@M. Bouffant: There was a thread about it earlier. Alain is doing things to fix. This is the limit of my technical knowledge.
SgrAstar
@Mike J:
I can’t really stand that. You’re dumping all over the lowest paid US workers at Apple. Retail workers contend with the worst behavior, every single day. Rather than condemn these entry-level Apple employees, why don’t you share your knowledge? Customer-facing work is brutal. Give those kidz a chance…they’re not morons.
Ohio Mom
@frosty: I did the same, bought my first iPhone in the Verizon store because I wanted a small phone that would fit in my jeans pocket and all the Androids had grown too big.
What I learned is that I liked using my old Androids better. I am hoping that small goes back in style when this phone dies.
satby
@Jay: what a sweet story about Bee! Thanks.
Another Scott
@RSA: Apple completely ignores discussions on apple.com
They don’t even pretend to care about problems posted there. I don’t know why people bother (though I do appreciate it when users find and post work-arounds).
Cheers,
Scott.
different-church-lady
@M. Bouffant: Alain put up a post yesterday (I think) saying he’s trying to figure it out. Apparently the problem is specific to feedly and he needs voice it out with them.
Ohio Mom
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: How interesting — The Cincinnati Enquirer, also a Gannett paper, had an article on local white nationalists revving up their recruiting efforts a couple of days ago. I don’t remember you being from this end of the world — are all the Gannett papers chasing the same story?
Stay safe!
Mike J
@SgrAstar: I’m there so they can fix my problem. If they can’t fix my problem, why are they there? Why do they insist it must be something I’m doing wrong? I’ve never had it take less than an hour of recapping everything I’ve spent days doing in an attempt to avoid talking to them. The only thing the people in the Apple store can do is get through to higher tier tech support.
I’m not paying to educate them. My entry level computer job was fixing stuff for other people. I learned how to do it before I did.
Another Scott
@Ohio Mom: Sony still makes some relatively small phones (the Compact models). But they’re not cheap and they can be hard to find in the USA.
Cheers,
Scott.
Steve in the ATL
Tim Cook told my wife that iTunes was being improved, but in the couple of years since he said that it’s gotten worse. May be time for her to cuss him out again.
Omnes Omnibus
@Steve in the ATL: Why is your wife relying on your cook for this info?
Steve in the ATL
@Omnes Omnibus: the cook is Asian and therefore should be an expert in all matters technological?
scott alloway
@RSA: As a pre-system 6 Mac user (1986), I usually can work out the issues. I think it is a problem of following the instructions in Mac dialect, which can be confusing at times. Yes, I’m an oldie at 67, but my tinkering with toys, radios, cars, and computers and such takes me back to believing you have to understand the way they are explaining things, In other words, they need to speak our dialect, not theirs.
uen
@Steve in the ATL: Oh god! How horribly played. Well done.
scott alloway
@magurakurin: Paid #300 for our Dualit four-slicer toaster in 1993. Figured it was a better value than $90 every five years for a cheaper toaster. It’s still kicking and madame conceded ny point. High end has value.
Jay
@Mike J:
It’s not an entry level Computer job, it’s an entry level, minimum wage, differential schedule, retail sales job. They get the bare minimum of training, mostly on POS systems.
If they are lucky, it will lead to a retail sales job at Starbucks, which comes with a better wage, benifits, tips and free coffee.
Little tip on the current fun point of Retail. In Canada, HomeDepot is hiring Temporary Foreign Workers, to staff everything outside of Supervision and Management, not for a lack of workers, but because they can then pay minimum, no benifits, and deport anyone who complains.
uen
@uen: This was me.
OldDave
@Schlemazel:
Or at least drew a diagonal strip across the top of the deck with a fat tipped magic marker. An out of place card was pretty obvious.
Omnes Omnibus
@uen: Delete this too. I inadvertently typed in the wrong field.
Mnemosyne
@lamh36:
Not in LA, it didn’t. Our march featured speakers from BLM and there were quite a few BLM posters carried during the march itself. The Parkland kids are reaching out to minority communities and trying to make sure that their voices are being heard as well — not just police shootings, but also gang shootings, domestic violence, etc.
Don’t despair yet. It may not get to NOLA very soon, but it’s definitely brewing out here.
Aleta
That does bring back memories…making our cassette tapes from scratch out of broken roof slates and 78s that we melted in the oven and stretched out like we did at the taffy pulls.
Omnes Omnibus
@Mnemosyne: I may have mentioned this above.
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
@Ohio Mom:
Same article. Every so often, assholes act threateningly…
Mnemosyne
@Omnes Omnibus:
Yes, but I (and Ruckus, and I think Fair Economist) am an actual eyewitness. Ruckus and I were standing behind the stage when the BLM kids came out and could hear how well they were received.
Aleta
All before they forced him down, then murdered him and then searched his pockets for an unseen weapon.
Omnes Omnibus
@Mnemosyne: Sorry. I mentioned your support. I can wait for your okay if I need to in the future.
NotMax
@Major Major Major Major
Ah, memories. The Babbage stores were worth going to regardless, simply for the rococo decor.
:)
Jim in Nashville
@Betty Cracker: When I got mine, I just laid one on top of the other when it told me to during the set-up. It switched all my apps, contacts and photos. It also put all my photos into albums, which i had never done before.
Aleta
-The Hill, today
Mnemosyne
@Omnes Omnibus:
I finally managed to get to one of the big protests after missing both of the Women’s Marches AND the March for Science. Don’t take that away from me. ?
J R in WV
@Dorothy A. Winsor (formerly Iowa Old Lady):
Surprise!! When you get a credit card with a “chip” you can’t swipe them anymore, you stick the end with the chip into a reader and wait for the reader to tell you when to pull it out.
Jay
@J R in WV:
For a little while. Then the connections to the “chip” get loose or worn, and the chip reader says to swipe, then rejects the swipe, and says “chip card detected, insert chip card”,
But the “tap and go” still works.
So then you get a new card, that lasts a year or so.
Prior to the chip, I had the same Bank Card and Credit Card for 21 years, but they made me replace it with a chip card.
Kathleen
@lamh36: Way too late but “Thank you”.
Kristine
@dmsilev: speaking as someone who learned what little programming I know during the punch card era, Yes.
Also, if you were part of a midnight chad** fight, it would be weeks before you dug all those things out of your pockets.
**assuming chad is the right term for those little punch-out pieces
Bob Collins
@Waratah: I believe you can use SMS or MMS (the original messaging system) with iMessage only through a cellular connection. Or you can turn on Continuity. See https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204681. Or download the iOS 11 iPad user guide at the iBook store. HTH and search for SMS or MMS.