Lily is fine and everything went well at the doctor, my knees and shoulder hurt, and I have to put in a fucking rain garden because my drainage options are basically nonexistent.
I’ll be back tomorrow.
Open Thread
This post is in: John Cole Presents "This Fucking Old House"
JPL
Good for Lily
lamh36
great news bout Lily.
Don’t get into any accident prone madness Cole
rikyrah
Yeah for the beautiful Lily??
rikyrah
Why representation matters
https://twitter.com/Essence/status/1009888755682103301
Omnes Omnibus
Howard Keel annoys me.
efgoldman
I am so tired of being in this fucking wheelchair. See the surgeon next Tuesday. Maybe the stitches come out. Probably not.
geg6
Well, at least our lovely Lily is doing well. Sorry about your drainage problems. Canât believe there isnât something that can be done.
lamh36
Oooooh…I missed this while I was in Australia!
I loved Murphy Brown back in the day. It’s cool seeing all the old clips and seeing just how far we HAVEN’T come since then…it’s cool they got all the living original cast back!
I said I loved the original so much, I’m willing to give this one a shot..
First Look At Murphy Brown on CBS https://youtu.be/LH_EiPC9FAM
zhena gogolia
@Omnes Omnibus:
What are you watching? He annoys me because it should always be Alfred Drake.
NotMax
Easy to say from thousands of miles away while sitting in a comfy chair but if you can get the scratch together, pay someone with experience to do it.
efgoldman
@Omnes Omnibus:
Dead dramatic baritones annoy you?
He had good pipes. Sometimes he mugged too much, but that was movies in the 1950s.
BruceFromOhio
New set of bathing suits in the Revolve ads. Splendid!
Drainage, if you are in a low spot it gets complicated. Swales and French drains and a shitload of material to direct the water. Sorry you got to deal, JC. Pots and boxes on pallets, or go hydroponic? Giant koi pond?
MisterForkbeard
Cole, have you considered just vacuuming the water up? Because that should work, right?
@efgoldman: On the other hand, you can probably pop a pretty sweet wheelie in that thing.
NotMax
@zhena gogolia
Wasn’t there a law mandating he appear in every other musical filmed during the fifties?
(Although will admit he was well cast in Kiss Me, Kate.)
:)
Omnes Omnibus
@zhena gogolia: @efgoldman: I don’t really care for musicals that don’t have Leslie Caron in them.
zhena gogolia
@NotMax:
Listen to Alfred Drake in Kiss Me Kate and then we’ll talk.
efgoldman
@Omnes Omnibus:
Gotta’ have a male lead, even if it’s not a love interest.
lamh36
@lamh36: FYI, If like me your next question was “I wonder who’s gonna play her son”?
I googled it for ya: Jake McDorman (never heard of him), but of course they’d find a cute guy to play Avery..I would have loved for him to be a geekier guy!
Omnes Omnibus
@efgoldman: That is fair. But Keel annoys me.
Mnemosyne
@Omnes Omnibus:
G blames Howard Keel for his dislike of musicals. I’ve slowly been getting him to watch movie musicals that are not that Keel 50s-style “let’s grind the whole damn story to a halt so Howard can sing.”
JPL
@efgoldman: Some of us are just glad you are back.
and f..k the rest. I do like Leslie Caron though. As a small child I can still remember her in GIgi.
Mnemosyne
@efgoldman:
Crutches are worse. Though your next step will probably be a walker. Have them put some racing stripes on it.
Omnes Omnibus
@Mnemosyne: Jeanette MacDonald (?) does the same thing to me. The two of them… Musicals, gah! Except for Leslie Caron.
lamh36
Mnemosyne
@efgoldman:
Your next phase. ?
Villago Delenda Est
Excellent news about Lily.
Not so great news about the back yard.
Have you considered just digging a hole for a pool?
lamh36
FYI:
She didn’t visit a dentention center where the actual seperated kid were.
NotMax
@efgoldman
Only appeared in less than a handful of films, baby-faced 5 foot 4 Tommy Dix had a heckuva baritone singing voice.
@Omnes Omnibus
Just shows to go ya. I find Leslie Caron a total turn-off in every way possible.
Jager
Great news about Lily.
Since her vets are so good, why not climb up on the stainless steel table and have them take a look at you?
A Ghost To Most
French drain with sump pump?
Ohio Mom
I would get another opinion on any drainage issue.
Well, actually I have gotten several opinions on Ohio Familyâs houseâs drainage options, mainly from landscapers giving quotes â we have a huge puddled area in our front yard, and a couple of big maples to take into account. There are a couple of different approaches we can take, some sounding like better bets than others. The swale and rain garden is probably what weâll go with.
schrodingers_cat
@lamh36: Some were sent to an adoption agency associated with the Devos family in Michigan.
MomSense
@Omnes Omnibus:
Have you seenher in Durrells of Corfu? Still charming and so beautiful.
NotMax
@zhena gogolia
Find your assumption I’m unfamiliar with Drake … disappointing.
maya
Uh, if yuz don’t like Howard Keel then allz ya got left is Gordon MacRae. Getting ready to slip The Music Man in the player in a bit. Robert Preston is always a pleasant diversion in these trying times… even if he is in I O Way.
lamh36
NOT a good idea park service!
Humdog
So, moles have moved into the dog yard. I told my husband it is futile to scold the beagle mix, she is doing what she must to defend her turf. While he agreed, he still felt he had to lecture her about it.
So as he goes around filling the cavernous holes with the voluminous mounds, he asks her why she feels she has to dig to China. Sheâs kinda a dumbass, and sheâll get lost on the way and end up in some Asian country where they eat doggies like her. And ornery doggies like her are spicy! Some of those Asian dishes are really spicy too. So she better be careful and stop digging, because when she comes out on the other side of the world, why wouldnât they gobble up a spicy sausage like her who pops up in their garden like a naughty gopher?
I donât think she got the message, do you?
Jager
@Mnemosyne:
At LAX I saw an older woman speed walking down the concourse, she stopped and yelled at an old guy using a walker 200 feet behind her, “Hurry up dammit, we’ll miss our plane.”
MomSense
@efgoldman: It is maddening when you canât do what you want. Sending a hug.
Mnemosyne
@lamh36:
I have strongly suspected ever since this story broke that the end game is for these kids to be declared “orphans” and turned over to the Quiverfull nutjobs.
And if any of them question anything when they get older, it will turn out that their fosterers “forgot” to file for citizenship for them and never legally completed the adoption (because they don’t need to obey Caesar’s laws!) so the kids will be deported back to their home countries if they even hint at wanting to break away from the family.
Villago Delenda Est
@Mnemosyne: This is so like these vile creatures. Everything they accuse the gays of, they do themselves.
Omnes Omnibus
@NotMax: I am utterly confused.
lamh36
NOT a good idea park service!
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The National Park Service has approved an application for the group behind the deadly wh&te N&tionalist rally in Charlottesville to host a one-year anniversary rally near the White House. via @NBCWashington
Mnemosyne
@Jager:
Even I knew to request wheelchair assistance at the airport after I banged up my knee, and that was when I had only sprained it.
Which reminds me, I need to add wheelchair assistance to my trip next month.
lamh36
NOT a good idea park service!
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NPS has approved an application for the group behind the rally in Charlottesville to host a one-year anniversary rally near the White House. via @NBCWashington
Omnes Omnibus
@MomSense: No, but i will.
lamh36
What the heck…why is my comment in moderation…ugh
So the park service has approved an app for the folks behind the Charlottesville racist rally to host 1 year anniv near WH
Hmmm…not a good idea
efgoldman
@Mnemosyne:
That’s kind of the point, though. In 1956, if you were selling a musical starring Howard Keel (or anyone else) you better goddamned well have the star stop and sing.
And things didn’t just come to a flying stop for the lead baritone; any feature solo stopped the action.
lollipopguild
@Villago Delenda Est: Everything is 100 percent projection.
efgoldman
@NotMax:
I prefer Cyd Charrise, myself.
Amir Khalid
How is everybody? Bianca is well and is her usual affectionate self. My knees make crunchy noises when I take the stairs. I was dealing with a loose strap button on Sister yesterday: I cut my finger and barely avoided supergluing myself to my trousers. I’m okay, and so are the trousers except for the patch of dried superglue. I did learn that cyanoacrylate adhesives give off a burst of heat as they cure.
Mnemosyne
@efgoldman:
And yet “Singin’ In the Rain” and “The Bandwagon” don’t grind to a halt for anyone’s solo.
Maybe the problem was that Keel wasn’t much of a dancer, so they couldn’t really do anything but have him stand in one place and sing.
debbie
@lamh36:
The more Pence is involved, the more likely they’ll not be found. Unless every evangelical home in the world is searched.
NotMax
Attention, zombie fans (c’mon, it’s no shame to admit it) – note that the British series In the Flesh is now on Amazon Prime. Watched it when it was on Netflix and found it thought-provoking (although the final season was a lesser effort). Probably as close to a thinking man’s zombie series as one can get. There’s some gore, yes, but that goes with the territory and is generally kept to a minimum. Trailer
lamh36
Ohio Mom
@Mnemosyne: Or if the kids present too many challenges. Trauma changes young kidsâ brains, permanently. There will be learning, behavior and psychological issues the adoptive parents are going to find very difficult, and in addition to frustrating them, that will hurt their pride.
Yutsano
@lamh36: TYNE DALY??? I’M IN!!!
efgoldman
@maya:
1957 was a helluva year on Broadway: Music Man and West Side Story both opened.
NotMax
@efgoldman
Yowzah.
Also too, Barrie Chase.
WaterGirl
@efgoldman: I would be glad to order you a knew scooter from Amazon at my expense. You could use it until your foot is better and then either keep it or pass it on to some other person who needs it. The one I bought was only $124 – well worth it to get off the fucking walker that was hurting my shoulders.
Let me know?
efgoldman
@NotMax:
Fans OF zombies, or fans who ARE zombies?
lamh36
They will likely NEVER find a % of these kids…but expect many to have been “adopted” by some “well meaning” evangelical zealots who’ll likely raise the kids to hate their own kind and never know they native language or culture.
YEAH, I’m cynical about it all!
A thread:
BruceFromOhio
@Amir Khalid: Its what makes superglue super.
In olden days I think they used unicorns.
MomSense
@efgoldman:
She is perfection in the dream sequence from Singinâ in the rain.
Gin & Tonic
@Mnemosyne: Funny, for some reason I’ve found myself watching the “Moses Supposes” number a bunch of times lately, with Donald O’Connor and some other guy, Gene something or other.
WaterGirl
@Mnemosyne: It made me sick earlier today to read that some have been sent to an adoption center.
NotMax
@efgoldman
Six of one, half dozen of the – – – BRAINZZZ!
lamh36
@Yutsano: IKR!!!!
Looking at old clips, it’s amazing how many of them still resonate today!
Like we’ve def changed for the better, but mahn the things that haven’t change, REALLY haven’t changed…ya know what I mean?
efgoldman
@WaterGirl:
Thank you darling, but the house is truly not set up for it. Plus I think Medicare would buy one if I went thru the forms and paperwork.
I’ll survive a couple of more weeks. Once the stitches are out and I can do weight bearing, I’ll be OK.
satby
@NotMax:
Well if admit it then I also have to confess my guilty enjoyment of Pride and Prejudice and Zombies.
WaterGirl
@efgoldman: It’s so maddening, sometimes you just want to scream. I feel your pain.
zhena gogolia
@NotMax:
That comment was originally directed at efg, but my internet went out momentarily and when I came back I was confused.
lamh36
joel hanes
@maya:
The Music Man
Opening scene is one of the first rap music performances known.
efgoldman
@WaterGirl:
I have sometimes. Mrs efg has patience beyond belief. We get some visiting help, but she’s doing lots of things we never thought she’d have to do 40 years ago when we got married.
Bette Davis had it right (I heard it): “Gettin’ old ain’t for sissies”
NotMax
@satby
Awaiting some enterprising Hollywood studio to crank out The Ten Commandments and Zombies.
:)
Shifting gears, is today’s Supreme Court ruling gonna impact you much?
satby
@efgoldman: hang tight, we really missed you so don’t do anything that will get you sent into stir again!
@WaterGirl: you are the sweetest person, you know that?
efgoldman
@zhena gogolia:
I’m always confused but I don’t blame it on the intartoobz.
zhena gogolia
@Mnemosyne:
Contrarian view here, but I think MGM musicals are pretty terrible. (Not that the shows they’re based on are terrible, but that they ruin them with lurid color and boring singers, viz. Show Boat, Kiss Me Kate, Oklahoma, etc.)
joel hanes
@efgoldman:
Cyd Charrise
Talented and oh those legs.
Mnemosyne
Speaking of song-and-dance men, last night I was enormously privileged to attend an event to celebrate songwriter Richard Sherman’s 90th birthday, and part of the entertainment was 92-year-old Dick Van Dyke performing a Mary Poppins medley with his barbershop quartet, the Vantastix.
This is pretty close to what we saw, but there was one addition — at one point towards the end, Van Dyke started rapping the lyrics. And he was pretty good! (I suspect he was influenced by you-know-who since they brought Van Dyke in to work on Mary Poppins Returns.)
If it ever gets posted anywhere on the internet, I’ll link to it, but there’s a good chance it may have to disappear into the Academy’s archives because of the music rights.
zhena gogolia
@lamh36:
They’re too busy praising Trump’s roaring economy.
jl
Thanks for good news on Lily.
” I have to put in a fucking rain garden ”
I guess that takes care of our two minutes of hate for rain gardens today.
Seems to me if you put in a lot work on a fucking drainage system you have a fucking drainage system that isn’t much fun at all except when it clogs up you have to do a lot more fucking work.
If you have a rucking rain garden, it might look nice and be a visible and enjoyable asset to the backyard. And research on how to build a rain garden for W By God Va sounds like it might be interesting.
Cole should look on the bright side of things once in a while.
dmsilev
@satby: I felt the joke/gimmick/whatever got kind of repetitive after a while. Though I have to admit, the set of sample book-club discussion questions at the very end were golden.
zhena gogolia
@lamh36:
Shades of the desaparicidos.
Mnemosyne
@zhena gogolia:
I only like MGM musicals that have Gene Kelly, Fred Astaire, or Judy Garland in them, and sometimes not even then. I prefer RKO’s musicals.
zhena gogolia
@Mnemosyne:
Me too.
lamh36
@lamh36: Warning…this article will break your heart!
NotMax
@satby
Awaiting some Hollywood studio churning out The Ten Commandments and Zombies.
:)
BTW, will today’s Supreme Court ruling affect you much?
Yarrow
Yay for Lily!
I’m still taking care of my neighbor’s cats. I pet them when I arrive but then I have to start getting their food. As the week has gone on one of them has decided he needs more attention. I pet him for awhile and the instant I turn away I feel this whap! on my leg from his paw. I turn around and he’s looking at me all innocent like with those big eyes. I pet him some more and then turn to walk away and whap! I guess he’s training me pretty well. It’s kind of funny.
They were fairly standoffish initially but at this point they’re practically on top of me when I walk through the door. It’s taking as long to pet them as it is to get the food and so forth.
NotMax
Tried twice and went to either Aetherville or moderation both times. Please to liberate?
SiubhanDuinne
@Omnes Omnibus:
Bless yore beautiful hide.
joel hanes
@zhena gogolia:
desaparicidos
Exactly. It’s deliberate. It’s evil.
maya
@efgoldman: 1957 was the year my Buick Century convertible was born -Black with white top and black & white leather interior. Of course I didn’t get to drive it until 1962 – when The Music Man movied.
Hope you get out of that wheel chair soon. I’ve had bad knees and a few bouts of cellulitis in my foot so I know what crutches and a walker are for. It will pass.
SiubhanDuinne
@Omnes Omnibus:
Ooh, Leslie Caron! Do you love Daddy Longlegs as much as I do?
lollipopguild
@Mnemosyne: Fred and Ginger.
lamh36
For a 6-Year-Old Snared in the Immigration Maze, a Memorized Phone Number Proves a Lifeline
https://www.propublica.org/article/for-a-6-year-old-snared-in-the-immigration-maze-a-memorized-phone-number-proves-a-lifeline
jl
We need to do some rectification of names type education sessions, folks.
Me, I prefer ‘baby concentration camps’. But probably any of these terms will be useful in various circumstances.
@jonathanalter
In commentary, I will no longer refer to them as âdetention centersâ. In the spirit of âHoovervillesââa brilliant coinage by a DNC official in 1931âthey should be called âTrump Hotelsââwhich will drive Trump nuts. If thatâs too subtle, âbaby jailsâ and âkid cagesâ will do.
https://twitter.com/jonathanalter/status/1009913823749459970
maya
@joel hanes: Yup, and it was the best way to start the show off.
Amir Khalid
@Yarrow:
It sounds like they’re lonely for human company, the poor dears.
jl
@lamh36: The combination of sheer stupidity, incompetence and evil that produced this mess is mind boggling.
There will be a big, very expensive, and tragically imperfect DNA ID program before this mess is resolved.
Edit: and it tragically won’t be much resolved as long as the Trumpsters are in charge, due to justified lack of trust and the Trumpsters’ demonstrated penchant for human rights crimes.
Yarrow
Any of our Maine folks have more info on this?
Dems want to reduce the zone to 25 miles from the border.
Jane2
@efgoldman: I’ve felt that frustration – hopefully all goes well and you’re free of the chair next week.
Mnemosyne
@lamh36:
And yet, Jimena is still in detention. And she still has not been allowed to speak to her mother on the phone:
Seriously, fuck these assholes. A desperate child’s mother is on the phone, and you say, Gee, sorry, you called at a bad time!?!?! What the fuck is wrong with these motherfucking assholes? What is broken in them, and who decided it was a good idea to put refugee children in their care?
SiubhanDuinne
@NotMax:
Obligatory and apt.
frosty
@Mnemosyne:
It just gets worse, don’t it. Anecdata: when we adopted our second from an orphanage in Bolivia, there was a religious family (WWJD T-shirts) adopting a girl at the same time. We did it because we wanted a family, I think they did it because they wanted to feel holy by saving an orphaned girl. I heard later that they gave her up and the US adoption coordinator raised her. My son is doing fine.
Bottom line: I expect these quiverfull people will be adopting for totally the wrong reasons and it ain’t gonna turn out well for either the kids or the adoptive families.
maya
@jl: I was thinking that every one of these Supremacist Stalags should bear the name of each of trump’s grandchildren.
Mary G
What are some fun things to do with teens? They work for me two days a week doing work, then one day we go somewhere, which they love and call an adventure even though it’s things I choose for myself. They have neither one of them ever been on a train before, but we live at the second to last stop for the Metrolink, so we’d have to leave at the crack of dawn, and Amtrak costs a fortune and is confusing as hell about wheelchair access.
Has anyone ever been to an escape room? It sounds like a lot of fun, but also pricy.
frosty
@Amir Khalid:
Oy. (Brag:) My knees are great. Just don’t ask me about my lower back this week.
GregB
These degenerates are capable of anything.
NotMax
@Yarrow
Some discussion of that in this thread, from #162 and onward.
rikyrah
@jl:
Baby Prisons
NotMax
@SiubhanDuinne
Knew what it must be before clicking to confirm.
:)
sfinny
@Yarrow: I’m taking care of my sister-in-laws cat while she is in the hospital and it is interesting getting used to new cats routines. Drove me crazy for the first few weeks. Getting better now.
zhena gogolia
An artist in my town does “Burma Shave” type signs on his front lawn (his house is at a fairly busy intersection) with political messages. Today he had three signs, reading from one side “Evil — Has Infested — the White House,” and on the other side he had painted American flags upside down. I don’t know why, but his signs always give me a boost.
SiubhanDuinne
@NotMax:
Yeah, I figured :-)
lamh36
@Mnemosyne: With a rusty pitchfork.
They really couldn’t let the damn child talk to her fuq’n mother!!!! Fuq these asshole is too nice a sentiment!
Jay
@Humdog:
Clackers, those wind powered spinning banging folk art/yard things.
Set one up on a metal tube pole buried at least 3 feet into the ground.
Moles find their prey by sound. The wind thingies will fill the underground parts of the yard with sound, Moles move out.
Yarrow
@Amir Khalid: Maybe so. I’ve taken care of them plenty of times before and for some reason this year they’re all much friendlier. They all want to be petted all the time and even the really, really skittish one, the one my neighbor said I wouldn’t even see and other cat sitters say they never see, lets me pet her. That’s a first.
@NotMax: Thank you. I’ll go have a look.
Nothing is particularly different this year versus other years so I’m not sure why they’ve warmed up to me so much this year. It’s kind of fun, though. I spend time petting them and they purr and purr. The leg whap cracks me up. Okay, okay, I’ll pet you some more!
Mnemosyne
@Mary G:
Have you hit any nearby missions yet? Educational and yet interesting.
Also, keep an eye on Amtrakâs site, and maybe sign up for their marketing emails. They run a LOT of specials, especially in the summer, and they have student and disabled rates. On the Pacific Surfliner, the lower level is usually reserved for passengers with disabilities and the people traveling with them, and you should be able to tell them youâre disabled when you buy the ticket online.
I donât know anything about escape rooms, sorry.
zhena gogolia
I saw on a Twitter thread that people are calling Melania “Ofdonald.” Pretty good.
GregB
Gaga-goo-gulags.
Peale
@Yarrow: they were probably collecting data on the scuffed condition of Canadian shoes, proving something or other…
Yarrow
@zhena gogolia: Ohhh….that is good. I’ll be using that.
NotMax
@Mary G
You’re in L.A., yes? Maybe this? Los Angeles Live Steamers
Also, have they ever been to a planetarium? Several to choose from.
QuaintIrene
With this weather, it would be a miracle if your knee and shoulder didnt hurt.
Mnemosyne
@NotMax:
Sheâs in south Orange County â almost San Diego. ?
NotMax
@Mnemosyne
In that case, Poway-Midland Railroad.
Yarrow
@Mary G: I haven’t done an escape room but I know people who have and they all had a great time. Check Groupon for deals on escape rooms and other activities. I see deals for activities all the time–trampoline places, rock climbing, etc.
FlyingToaster
Rain gardens aren’t terrible. My daughter’s school has one (like you, it’s the local minimum, they had no fucking options, so a rain garden) known as the “little bowl” to distinguish it from the “big bowl” full of mud and ball playing. There are a couple of dry wells, boulders, and various native-to-New-England shrubs and grasses and such. ALL PERENNIALS. Off limits to the little ones so that they don’t jump off of the 4-foot retaining wall.
In your case, you won’t have to worry about pre-kindergartners, and I’m pretty sure that if Thurston is still alive (he is, right), then this is doable. My next hell garden project starts next week, so I will sympathize with your plight.
QuaintIrene
Will there be torches?
zhena gogolia
@QuaintIrene:
Was that already a year now?
NotMax
@zhena gogolia
The Year of Living
DangerouslyDepressingly.Platonailedit
This is going to end worse than we think it is possible. Cruel intent combined with ineptness.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
Make good trouble… “Just tell me whatever you want me to do. I will go to the borders. I’d get arrested again. If necessary, I’m prepared to go to jail.”
Doug R
@MomSense:
One of those cases where a movie does grind to a halt but you don’t notice because she’s so fascinating.
Doug R
@Gin & Tonic:
Apparently Donald O’Connor was a major chainsmoker and the “Make ’em Laugh” acrobatics damn near killed him.
efgoldman
@QuaintIrene:
I expect the counter demonstrations will overwhelm them.
What usually happens: Small crowd of nazis, surrounded and out numbered by police, surrounded in turn by a bazillion counter protesters. Usually the coward nazis slink away.
ETA: If they show up in DC with firearms, they’ll likely be arrested on the spot.
Mary G
@Mnemosyne: @NotMax: Almost exactly between LA and San Diego.
Planetarium at San Ana College has a tour of our solar system that looks great, thanks NotMax.
Duane
@rikyrah: Trumptowns.
efgoldman
@Mnemosyne: @NotMax: @Mary G: You ever take/send anybody here? Fascinating, fascinating place. Used to require an advance reservation, don’t know if it still does
Frankensteinbeck
@Platonailedit:
I will not be even slightly surprised if the vast majority of children cannot be reunited. That’s why they announced late they’re not returning the already collected kids. They can’t. They kept no records because they’re a shitshow of mean-spirited racist incompetents.
Mike J
@Mnemosyne:
In that case there’s only one option.
I went to a cockfight once. Won my weight class.
efgoldman
@Frankensteinbeck:
The fucking Germans, evil as they were, kept meticulous fucking records.
Kay
@Frankensteinbeck:
“I really don’t care. Do u?” We’re governed by surly preteens.
QuaintIrene
And weep about it later. “Why is everybody so mean t o us?”
Platonailedit
@Kay: Preteens, surly or not, surely are not monsters. Unlike these corrupt thugs.
frosty
@Mary G: If you’re in SoCal and they are either history or aviation buffs, try Planes of Fame in Chino.
http://www.planesoffame.org/
Yarrow
@Mary G: What sorts of things do they like to do? How old are they?
You could just do some touristy things like go to the Santa Monica pier or go look at the stars on the Hollywood walk of fame. Maybe go up to the Griffith Observatory?
Depending on what they like to do, maybe put together a trip to some thrift/resale stores, give them a small budget and see what they come up with. Or go to a Farmer’s Market. The San Diego Airport offers free tours.
Have you had them come up with a list of what they want to do? Make a game of it. Free things, under $10 things, under $20 things and so forth.
Mnemosyne
@efgoldman:
And those meticulous records got half of them hanged after Nuremberg. Thatâs why the Trumpistas arenât keeping records â Weâre not trying to murder people, weâre just incompetent! Whoopsie!
frosty
@Mary G: And even if they’re not either of those things, it would be a new experience and something they might get interested in. My elementary and middle school boys enjoyed the WWII airshows we went to.
B.B.A.
@efgoldman: The District of Columbia is governed solely by federal law, so the President has the power to pardon any crimes that take place there.
Let’s hope he doesn’t figure that out before the end of his term.
Platonailedit
Mary G
@Mike J: TJ is one place they have been a lot. I have once and no desire to go back.
Doug R
@Mary G: Space shuttle Endeavor is at the Science Museum.
There’s always the Getty Museum, if you can get to a parking lot.
dww44
So, it was a full night of both sides Broderism on my cable tv:
1. First off, at the end of his CNN hour, Chris Cuomo, although really tough on Trump, chastised the Congress and ended by saying” All of you will be remembered for your cowardice in November. He was speaking of both Dems and Republicans.
2. Then, Brian Williams had Robert Costa (whom they all love, but you gotta figure he’s a true conservative since has better access to the GOP, including Trump, than almost anyone else) and Jeremy Peters of the NYTimes, who really got my hackles up when he pretty much blamed Dems equally for the inability to pass any immigration reform legislation for the last 30 years, and referred to the 10 to 20% of very extreme leftists who want open borders and the somewhat less extreme on the right. What elected Democrats want “open borders”? Sheesh, I really don’t like that guy.
3. Brian Williams (who also has been tough on Trump) said that neither McConnell nor Ryan nor Schumer and Pelosi can be counted on to come up with a compromise and solution on immigration. That none of the 4 of them will be eligible for Profile in Courage Rewards at the end of 2018.
Somebody please educate me. Why do Democrats get blamed for ANY of this? I simply don’t see any supporting evidence for that. Or do they really want the Congressional Republicans to negotiate and craft an immigration bill amongst themselves and for enough Democrats to vote for the bill so that it can pass? It’s as if they’re buying in to the unceasing Trump attacks on Democrats. Shades of Nazi Germany. I am gobsmacked.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@dww44: it was barely four months ago that trump blew up another bipartisan immigration bill, it was IIRC two days after he told a big group of Senators and MoCs that he’d take the heat, he had the guts they didn’t, etc. Paul Ryan never wanted to bring that bill to the floor, the recent discharge position, the Gang of 8, or however many, from (again, IIRC 2014)… if there’s any issue that doesn’t lend itself to both-siderism, it’s immigration.
Jeremy Peters is smarm on legs, but I always get the sense that Costa plays it straight. Williams probably talked about The Coat more than any other MSNBC host tonight, I was kind of surprised to see David Jolly get worked up about it.
Jeffro
Speaking of musicals, CHICAGO sucks. There – I had to say it. Just saw it earlier this evening and zzzzzzzz.
Iâll take a plot and more modern music any day.
B.B.A.
Why is known fabulist Brian Williams still on the air? Why hasn’t he been permanently reassigned to janitorial duty?
Jeffro
@dww44: Of COURSE they canât come up with a âcompromise solutionâ, Brian Williams, you dim wit. Itâs spaghetti vs tire rims nâ anthrax for dinner, whatâs compromise??!?
Why donât the reporters do their jobs and present each partyâs plan for immigration reform side by side? Let voters see if they have a preference. Let them see how impossible it would be to âcompromiseâ with the POC-hating psychos in the GOP.
And above all else, letâs focus on what side is actually DOING:
– Dems: trying to lean on the president* to stop a policy he started, organizing, trying to see what is happening in these shelters
– Reps: condemning it and doing nothing (even though they are in the majority in BOTH houses), blaming Democrats for Trumpovâs policy, Trumpov himself claiming Dems âwant MS-13 to come in so they can be Dem votersâ (FU for that one btw, jerk)
We need to beat on the media almost as much as we need to beat on the Republicans.
Mike in DC
@lamh36:
In downtown DC? They should wear dog tags and inform the authorities how to contact their next of kin. They will be outnumbered 100 to 1 within a very short span of time. If they employ their usual provocation tactics I guarantee several of them will be headed to the ICU or worse.
Mary G
Found something for tomorrow if I am up to driving that far:
San Diego Juicers might want to check it out.
ACLU Border Rally with Kamala Harris, 11am-1pm
FRIDAY JUNE 22
Otay Mesa Detention Center 7488 Calzada de la Fuente San Diego 92154
ACLU of San Diego and Imperial Counties will rally supporters during Sen. Harrisâ visit to the detention center to view the impact of the Trump Administrationâs âZero Tolerance Policyâ.
The CA49 Indivisible group has six different protests tomorrow.
Peale
@Jeffro: yep. Itâs like they just think of immigration being about illegal aliens, and therefore one side must want open borders and the other side must want closed borders and anything that smacks of semi-open borders must be the right choice. Since the GOP doesnât want to let anyone in, the Dems must be opposed to the bill because they want everyone in. Itâs just dumb.
B.B.A.
The press is spewing Krauthammer hagiography like nobody’s business. Give me a fucking break. When someone who was right about Iraq dies, they’ll be remembered as “shrill” and “naive” and “nothing like those manly Republicans.”
The Pale Scot
Two things to try, willow and mulberry trees. Them suckers will pull every last gallon out of your lawn. And willows are great for tree forts. If the grass seeds get a chance to dig in, they’ll help too. Grass has no problem driving under a few inches of water
Steeplejack
I saw at the beginning of Colbert’s show tonight that Scott Pruitt is getting dragged about something to do with “tactical pants.” I feel like I am on the leading edge of a trend! But perhaps not in a good way.
James Powell
@Mary G:
Where can I get information on Indivisible49 events? Their webpage doesn’t list anything past the primaries.
TS (the original)
@dww44:
Yes, yes and yes. Compromise and/or bipartisanship to the media is democrats doing what republicans want.
jl
@dww44: I think you should call CNN and chew them out for emitting BS and untruths.
There is NO need for ANY Congressional action to solve the Trump bably concentration camp disaster. The Trumpsters have just lied about this. When challenged to cite the Obama law, they just said, oh well, hell, never mind, it was a GW Bush law. Both are damned lies.
The only law Congress needs to pass is one that forbids separating families and forbids creating baby concentration camps.
The Trump administration created this crisis out of thin air, and he can solve it without Congress doing jack squat.
There is no border crisis, there is no crisis upswing in undocumented crossing or asylum requests, there is no law forcing Trump to separate families or create baby concentration camps. Tell CNN to do its damn job and report out the facts or they have lost your business forever. I’d be polite, but not overly polite about it.
Edit: what the hell is Brian Williams, who is either a depraved liar or a mentally unbalanced fantasist doing back on the air pretending to be a news reporter?
Ruckus
@lamh36:
Ya gotta know that these jamokes are thinking, it is the WHITE House.
Ruckus
@Mnemosyne:
Every fucking thing and someone far worse than they are.
Mnemosyne
@Mike in DC:
Good point. Now I’m wondering if the attitude of the Parks Service is, Hey, it’s your funeral, assholes. Enjoy being spit on for four hours.
M4
@Mnemosyne: donât they just sort of give it to whoever asks first?
Ruckus
@efgoldman:
The original owner was a customer of ours and I’ve been in the shops where they rebuild everything a few times. Fascinating place is the understated minimum. It is however a long way away from Mary G.
Ruckus
@B.B.A.:
He’s a worse janitor than he is on air?
They like their janitors to be proficient?
Mel
Cardinal Flower (lobelia cardinalis) is a gorgeous regional native plant, and performs very well in rain gardens. The red flowers it produces are quite beautiful, and the foliage is pretty as well.
Mel
@Mel: Here is a link to the Audubon society’s info on Cardinal Flowers.
They aren’t kidding about it being a hummingbird magnet. We had multiple hummingbirds flitting back and forth all day between the Cardinal Flowers in our yard and the passionflowers on our neighbor’s trellises.
YetAnotherJay formerly (Jay S)
@Amir Khalid: As you probably know, acetone is a super glue solvent. Often sold in small quantities as nail polish remover in the states. Of course you need to check the fabric to see if it is damaged by it before using it on exposed areas.
sukabi
Freeway Blogger is still at it.
hervevillechaizelounge
@jl:
Brian Williams is a rich white man; there’s nothing that could stop his inevitable redemption arc short of death.
Mary G
@James Powell: I surrendered to the Borg and followed the FB group. Not a lot of notice but they put up events and actions.
jl
@hervevillechaizelounge: Ha. I am mere non-rich white man. If I tried some of the stunts these people get away with, I’d never regain a good position. I’d be lucky to have any position at all. If media royalty were treated like ordinary people, he’d be doing voice overs for oil change and tire shops on local radio stations around Yellow Knife.
Mrs. D. Ranged in AZ
I had to look up the definition of a rain Garden because, well, I live in Arizona. We do have occasions to deal with too much rain. In Fact we have flooding here when it actually rains, which is in very rare circumstances. Particularly since climate change has ensured that we have no actual monsoon season when we should have a monsoon season. Nevertheless we have drainage options out here. A rain Garden is not one of them.
Mel
@Mnemosyne: This worries me as well, especially since the quiverfull lunatics focus on keeping female children âpure and godlyâ (translation: isolated, uneducated, clueless, frightened teenage virgins) and marrying them off to often older men who strike some sort of agreement with the young girlâs male relatives.
Their excuse is that it is âGodâs planâ to have girls married off and homebound / reproducing as young as possible. (This is the same kind of vile, misogynistic christian- right horror that Roy Moore and likeminded creeps were spouting to try and excuse his vile behaviors.)
When I worked in the rural South, I saw girls getting pulled out of high school and college to be married off because of this quiverfull nonsense. The girls had been totally brainwashed from an early age, and interestingly, many of them were kids who had been internationally adopted through religious agencies. Any girl who resisted the craziness would be pulled out for âhome schooling purposesâ and effectively disappeared.
So, I second your suspicion. Where are those missing preteen and young teenage girls?!
WaterGirl
@satby: You are too kind!
schrodingers_cat
@Mel: So these Quiverfull peeps are acting like the American ISIS?
dww44
@jl:@jl: @TS (the original): @Jeffro: @Jim, Foolish Literalist:
Although this thread is mostly dead, I want to thank all of you for your responses. It helps. I perhaps didn’t relay strongly how strongly Cuomo was lumping Dems with the GOP and told them all to “Do their Damn Jobs” or they’d all be removed if they didn’t.
I loved this:
He also exudes an air of know-it-all superiority and fake objectivity..
oldgold
So You Itâs Your Birthday