The previous thread is getting long. Here’s a new one.
This quote should lead the news tonight everywhere. It represents an appalling refusal to take responsibility for an extraordinary abdication of leadership that could end up claiming untold numbers of American lives. It's one of the worst presidential displays in modern times. https://t.co/cGUlCCfieX
— Greg Sargent (@ThePlumLineGS) March 13, 2020
GregMulka
“I read one article.”
Bullshit.
Mary G
What a disgraceful exhibition.
JPL
He didn’t know he disbanded the group studying global pandemics. wtf is happening.
germy
Shalimar
The parts I heard were horrible. Straight up bullshiting and ass kissing. Not surprised the market approves of getting a bunch of CEOs to talk about the profits to be made, though. Sociopaths all the way down.
Zinsky
“I don’t take any responsibility at all….”
Those may be the truest words Donald J. Trump has spoken in his repulsive life.
Roger Moore
“The buck stops anywhere but here”
VOR
@JPL: He refuses to take responsibility for that either. Nothing is ever his fault. He could not possibly make a mistake.
This is why Narcisstic Personality Disorder makes poor leaders.
JPL
doctor let me kiss your ass, keeps shaking her head in agreement. She’s like a bobble head doll. I wonder if the RNC will sell them.
Mary G
These reporters are out of fucks to give. Please somebody snap and give him what for.
Aleta
Also a great move making undocumented people afraid to go to a clinic or hospital for medical help.
WereBear
@JPL: Last weekend. Saturday evening, I think. I was doing okay because we have the CDC! We have Obama’s Pandemic Response Team.
But no, we don’t. 2018 he let them all go and filled the CDC with Fundagelical Christian Culture Warriors instead.
It was like seeing the First Zombie and knowing everything is different now.
KateP
Follow up question should have been -“Have you ever taken responsibility for anything?” And it has to be restricted to negative things.
dm
The Lincoln Project (a Never Trumper PAC) has a new ad: “The Grifters”
https://lincolnproject.us/news/grifters-episode-one/
cthulhu
“The buck stops here” Plaque on Harry S. Truman’s desk.
A plaque soon to be on Donald J. Trump’s desk:
“Get that buck out of here! Unless it is an actual buck. You can leave those here.”
(RM got there first!)
Immanentize
Question to Pence — How beautiful is Trumps ass? Your lips spend a lot of time there and can tell the American people….
Scout211
North Thurston School District (Washington) just announced it will be closed until April 24. My daughter teaches there and my grandkids attend. That is a long time, although one week of it is Spring Break.
Cheryl Rofer
Dr. Birx just confused antigens and “nucleic acids.”
Very different tests for the virus. She should know that.
BroD
“I don’t take any responsibility at all….”
Just credit if anything turns out not to be a disaster.
JPL
gosh .. Miss Bobble Head doctor is still shaking her head. poor thing
VOR
Did you notice he made sure OAN got to ask a question? And then they asked about the conspiracy theory. Supposedly some people in China have a conspiracy theory that the US created COVID.
Ksmiami
Wipe them out- all of them Katie
Marcopolo
@germy: This should be the kick that every state needs to go to vote by mail. And in time for the November election. If Republicans bitch that this makes it too easy to vote remind them the alternative is folks 70+ who are afraid to go to the polls.
The Truffle
On Twitter last night, people were speculating that Trump would up and resign and possibly just hightail it to Russia.
Would have been nice if he did.
Right now he has to be sundowning. Has to.
arrieve
I just can’t. I turned on the TV in the middle of this fuckfest. Most of the questions are useless, and the ones that aren’t get the mike turned off. I think he actually believes the fact that he doesn’t know that the pandemic response team was disbanded absolves him of any responsibility for it.
Roger Moore
@cthulhu:
“The bucks stop here” Plaque on Donald Trump’s desk
Ruckus
So he wanted the job for the golf weekends? What did he think taking the top job in government was about? Other than the golf weekends and a job for his idiot children and stepson of course…..
He is far, far more harmful than the most useless person on the planet. And he wasn’t before he asked for the job, then he was just the most useless person on the planet. Now he’s the most destructive person, what with his total moronic self holding the office and thinking he’s not responsible for anything. He’s a lying sack of shit. He’s a fucking moron. He’s a horrible human being, maybe the most horrible in a long time.
He is, by far and away the worst president we’ve ever had, no contest whatsoever. He’s not in the bottom five, he IS the bottom five worst
I know a person in jail for murder. She’s been in for almost 50 yrs. She’s a better person than shit for brains.
mrmoshpotato
Just let Wilmer’s supporters harass and wag their fingers at the virus. It’ll throw in the towel.
Mary G
@arrieve: That is what has me gobsmacked. “I don’t know anything about it and I don’t care.”
pamelabrown53
Is there a reson he’s still talking?
Scout211
Governor Brown of Oregon announced all public K-12 schools in the state will be closed for at least the next two weeks.
Immanentize
@pamelabrown53:
He doesn’t feel he has won yet.
WaterGirl
@JPL: Smiling and nodding her head. Maybe she was a model or a gymnast when she was younger. Always be smiling.
Mary G
The dismissiveness of the retailers and Dr. Fauci about lack of hand sanitizer is white privilege and “let them eat cake” on steroids. Literally ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.
Another Scott
@JPL:
TheHill:
They’re know-nothing monsters. That’s what’s happening, and has been happening since January 2017.
We have to vote the monsters out.
Grr…
Cheers,
Scott.
Immanentize
@WaterGirl: I understand that she is a religious fundamentalist. Same training for females to be accepted and acceptable.
WaterGirl
I am feeling slightly panicked after watching and listening to all the lies and obfuscation. We are pretty well fucked.
Roger Moore
@pamelabrown53:
He has a bunch of put options and wants to make sure the market tanks on Monday.
Baud
@cthulhu:
I think Trump thinks that refers to literal money.
mrmoshpotato
His Swiss cheese brain wants to call the virus a “loser” but he can’t find the word?
Ruckus
@pamelabrown53:
He’s full of shit and he knows it and has to let some out.
Zinsky
@Ruckus: Boom! That was one righteous Trump beat-down!
MisterForkbeard
@WaterGirl: I’m not panicked, but I’m definitely not reassured. This was basically the minimum response… for last week.
I’m reassured that we can pressure Trump into at least some changes, but… Christ, this was bad. :/
JPL
@Another Scott: Special JPL thoughts and prayers for them. I have the best prayers, btw.
TaMara (HFG)
I am having evil thoughts. But as my niece said to me in the car as I turned off the unflushable turd, “Well, he is an evil person.”
She’s 13. She shouldn’t have to be this smart yet.
geg6
@Cheryl Rofer:
She’s a fundie. I have yet to meet a fundie who knows anything at all about biology or any science for that matter. She may have at one time back when she was young, but fundamentalism rots the brain. Just ask the CHEM110 students here on campus (oooops, via Zoom) about their fundie chem professor.
Ken
In Illinois, no statewide closings yet, but some Chicago suburban schools are closing until early April, when they’ll assess reopening.
Also several Catholic archdioceses have cancelled all masses, and other large churches are cancelling services.
HumboldtBlue
@WaterGirl:
My anxiety shot through the roof when I started reading about Italy.
Here’s a reminder that humans, even in the face of tragedy, can still be awesome. (Posted this last night)
Siena Italy
bemused
@Mary G:
He’s probably lying he didn’t know. If he did or didn’t know, he still has no capacity nor concern to be a president or anything else.
geg6
@Scout211:
Governor Wolf here in PA has done the same.
JPL
@Immanentize: Actually I want someone to ask him what color it is.. Does his makeup artist have to take care of his ass too. just wondering
JWR
@KateP:
That occurred to me the other day. I mean, I watch Yamiche Alcindor on PBS struggling not to say, “and he lied, again and again”
I did hear her use the L word during her first months at the station, but I’m sure Judy Woodruf let her know what’s what with that.
Aleta
“This day should be an inspiration to every American.” (Pence)
Scarlett
Costco was out of TP but spam was in stock and 5$ off
bonus
germy
Health Experts Worry Coronavirus Will Overwhelm America’s GoFundMe System
scav
Paerty of Personal Responsibility! Party of Personal Responsibility! Your Leader and associated moment have arrived!
Duane
@pamelabrown53: Trumpov might have got away with the announcement part of the presser, but taking questions was a disaster. He knew how awful it was, trying to get reporters to question other people, trying to hide behind them. He’s a coward. No responsibility at all. Never thought a president would say such a thing.
Calouste
I saw a picture of a protest sign today (probably from a climate march, but applies here as well):
”Every disaster movie starts with the government ignoring a scientist “
Mary G
@Aleta: Inspiration to vote your asses out of office.
Ruckus
@TaMara (HFG):
No, it’s better that she is that smart and that she knows at 13 what maximum stupid looks/sounds like. Kicking the current republican party to the curb is an all will be one, if not the most important elections in our history. She of course can not vote but this is about her future. She needs to know what a better future means for her. And what a republican future means for her.
I’m glad she does.
Kent
Insley just announced that all Washington schools statewide will be closed AT LEAST until April 24. So we have the same thing down here in the Vancouver area.
mrmoshpotato
@JPL:
Sacrilege! How dare you act like America’s Best Christian doesn’t exist.
?
HumboldtBlue
Former Federal Judge James Dannenberg has resigned from the Supreme Court Bar and his letter lays out exactly why.
The virus is one thing, but the damage the GOP has done to our political establishment and framework for good governance may not be reversible.
WereBear
What’s clear is they don’t want to test. So they are blocking it in every way at their disposal; which is all of them, Katie.
Restricting materials, getting the wrong tests, refusing established tests, creating confusing ways to get tested: none of it matters. They are going to slow walk it to keep the numbers down.
Yes, even now.
chris
The largest university in Halifax, Dalhousie and King’s College, goes online next week. Canada’s Chief Public Health Officer, Dr. Theresa Tam, recommends cancelling any international travel. There is, she said, a risk of being quarantined in a foreign country or, worse, sick in a country with a poor medical system. Not sure what she meant by that last part.//
mrmoshpotato
@TaMara (HFG): Flush The Turd on November 3rd
mrmoshpotato
@JPL: Does the ass match the face – fat and orange?
John Revolta
@Ken: Holy shit.
No masses means no collections. Now you know this is serious.
Scout211
@Kent: Thanks for the update. I didn’t know it was all the public schools in the state, like Oregon. Yikes.
BroD
BTW: we don’t need to build emergency health care facilities–there’s plenty of vacant space at shopping centers Just sayin’.
mrmoshpotato
@Aleta: An inspiration for what Dense – to vote all you fuckers out, and then start criminal trials on January 20, 2021 12:02PM Eastern?
Sherparick
@Zinsky: Ranks right up there with “If people are “nice” ($$$) to me, I am nice to them.”
germy
COVID-19 containment with style: A first-hand account of the virus containment efforts in Italy
Ruckus
@Duane:
He may be the president, but he is in no way presidential. He is the complete opposite of what a president is. GWB was better and he’s a complete ass. Nixon was better and he was a lying sack of shit.
He didn’t cause COVID-19, he had one job with it and that was to make sure it killed the least number of people, by letting others do their actual job. He fucked that up. He says he didn’t know, he says he’s not responsible. But he can’t not be responsible, it’s his job, the one he got “elected” to do.
Be the responsible adult in the room. That is the entire job description in one sentence.
And he’s totally incapable of that. And just admitted it. An actual human being would resign. But he can’t take responsibility.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@WereBear:
They won’t be able to hide the deaths from this in a few weeks to a month or so. People will notice that. The media (sans Fox News) will report it
Shalimar
@WereBear: I do not understand why they have such a difficult time understanding exponential growth. Testing 100,000 now so you can quarantine the infected and not have to test 10,000,000 in a month is not complicated.
mrmoshpotato
@John Revolta: Oh yeah. Forgot about that.
Suzanne
@BroD:
I guarantee you that you do not want to receive healthcare at a vacant shopping center.
I’ve seen things.
Ruckus
@John Revolta:
The catholic church may have spread the word that they all have to suspend mass because otherwise they will be killing the checkbook. It’s not like they don’t have a bit saved up in Rome. The church will be OK, as long as there are parishioners to come back after the major fan shitting event.
Sherparick
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Shalimar: They were told at the beginning of the class that there’d be no math. //
WereBear
Listening to Governor Cuomo: D NY saying they have what they need to start testing in the state. Ramping up all labs and procedures.
Someone read someone the riot act.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Suzanne: A guy did some YouTube pieces on “hidden LA”, one was on a vacant shopping center in Hawthorne, creepy.
delk
I don’t think that is what the 19 means.
Subsole
@WereBear:
If trump loses the election, he loses immunity for all the horrid shit he has pulled. Probably costs the Conservative Movement some very hard-won ground, too. People with petty souls, long memories, and LOTS of options.
He will sodomize his children on live teevee before he does anything that might tank his numbers.
Leto
@Suzanne:
There’s a reason they’re vacant: people didn’t want to go there for the intended purpose, sure as hell don’t want to go there for “medical care”.
HumboldtBlue
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
LAFD’s Station 9 is the busiest in the country, imagine how much it could now get.
Scout211
All Illinois K-12 schools (public and private) closed starting Tuesday. Governor is now announcing it.
Suzanne
@?BillinGlendaleCA: They’re not just creepy. They’re not built to the same code requirements for fire, egress, air changes, structure, etc.
Hospitals are already fairly risky places. The absolute last thing we need right now is a bunch of highly infectious people in crappy interior environments.
Immanentize
@Leto: And here I thought it was going to be shuttered Walmarts!
WereBear
@Subsole: Yes, but now governors called his bluff: they are doing their jobs and pressured him to do his.
I’m beginning to see the upside of that whole “laboratory of the states” thing.
But I think THIS can’t be handwaved away: I just heard the latest epidemic math. We aren’t going to be able to flatten that curve enough.
We will have a higher mortality rate in the vulnerable population. Because of all the mistakes of the Trump administration.
Subsole
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):
How utterly gauche of both sides to politicize the death toll.
But especially the democrats.
/punditocracy
Leto
@delk:
It’s not; the 19 stands for the year it was first identified. It was id’d 31 Dec 2019.
Leto
@Immanentize: Those concrete monoliths will be will humanity for a long time. I’m pretty sure my hometown, back in SC, still has the K-Mart shopping center that’s been abandoned for close to thirty years. I know there’s some photo essays of abandoned American malls floating around the ‘tubes.
Bufflars
North Shore of Milwaukee suburbs have closed their schools through April 12th, to be reevaluated then.
Calouste
@BroD: On the coasts they can use cruise ships, they’re not in business at the moment. Only after a triple disinfection of course. Bonus: every large cruise ship has a morgue.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@delk:
It doesn’t. The 19 refers to the year the virus was identified in. COVID-19 is short for “Novel coronavirus 2019”
The Moar You Know
@Suzanne: Suspect water supply is the biggest issue with retail space. Suspect construction. Bad power. Decades worth of shit ground into every single crack in any surface. And everyone’s friend, asbestos.
I haven’t seen things, I’ve actually worked on them. If you wanna use a shopping center for medical purposes, you’re committing to stripping the building down to the foundation and studs and rebuilding from there.
The military is sitting on top of thousands of top-grade battlefield medical tents. I don’t know why we can’t use those.
PenAndKey
@Subsole: and it’s rhetorical like that which makes me perfectly willing to day I want every one of the fuckers trying to “both sides” this to get sick and need an ICU room but find out all the beds are full and they don’t meet the triage metrics.
Glidwrith
San Diego Unified school district and Carlsbad school district in California have closed as well until April 6th. One week of that is Spring Break.
Jeffro
@Ruckus:
He is far, far more harmful than the most useless person on the planet. And he wasn’t before he asked for the job, then he was just the most useless person on the planet. Now he’s the most destructive person, what with his total moronic self holding the office and thinking he’s not responsible for anything. He’s a lying sack of shit. He’s a fucking moron. He’s a horrible human being, maybe the most horrible in a long time.
Amen and amen.
Remember, he was going to have VP Kasich do all the actual governing, while he just ran around ‘making America great again’ (per Don Jr)
Let’s face it, he – and the GOP – just wanted an old white guy back in charge again. Too traumatic seeing a successful African-American president for eight scandal-free years.
Immanentize
@Leto: In my hometown it’s the “Oakdale Mall.” Not dead yet! But on its way.
Oh, the places we lost — Recordland! Spencer Gifts! Orange Julius!
The Moar You Know
@?BillinGlendaleCA: Let me recommend the “Retail Archeology” channel on YouTube. Fascinating stuff.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@WereBear:
Do you have a source? I’ve seen the peak is estimated to occur in late April or mid-May
mrmoshpotato
@delk: Great to see Rush Limbaugh’s making amends in his last days!
Jeffro
@Scarlett: Spam Fried Rice is crazy awesome
The Moar You Know
@delk: For once in his rotten life, he’s dead right.
And I had to discuss this with my dad yesterday, who was hopeful/somewhat confident that we’d have a vaccine “soon”. We’ve been trying for over a hundred years to make a vaccine for the common cold and we can’t. The common cold is a coronavirus. There is not going to be a vaccine this year, next year, or in my whole life.
Jeffro
@mrmoshpotato: I thought you were serious for a second. Ah well.
Looking forward to relieving myself on Limbaugh’s final resting place, and soon.
Suzanne
@The Moar You Know: Air changes are the biggest one. Most retail HVAC cannot come anywhere near what is required for sanitary healthcare. And leaky roofs, which means mold.
The vast majority of hospitals built before 1980 are riddled with asbestos. And we find it in hospitals built after 1980, too.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@The Moar You Know:
Two years there was a hospital closure in my area, leaving three major hospitals in my county. A former hospital would be a great place to house/quarantine in the event other hospitals become overwhelmed. The problem would be getting the right equipment and staff for patients. Perhaps the National Guard or military doctors/medics could staff such places?
mrmoshpotato
@Jeffro:
Fuck. I’d forgotten about that line of horseshit.
HumboldtBlue
@Jeffro:
Yeah, it is. If six years in and around Hawai’i taught me anything is that SPAM can be good.
mrmoshpotato
@Immanentize:
They can now replace it with a Kremlin’s Bitchulius.
delk
Yeah, I know what the 19 stands for, I forgot the /s.
Immanentize
@mrmoshpotato: He is just a mean SOB who intends to take out as many MFers as possible. Because other people are not brilliant rich people like him. “Let them go to their maker like I am unjustly being forced to do!” Their politics be damned!
Immanentize
@mrmoshpotato: Right now? I wish fucking Kasich had said “Hell Yes!”
WereBear
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): WaPo today
So do we have 1957 or 1918? We can’t be sure because testing is STILL blocked and only starting to loosen up.
Subsole
@WereBear: Fair points. I don’t have much hope the blame will fall appropriately, but maybe you’re right. Nothing like putting Republicans in charge to remind you why you voted ’em out last time I guess…
delk
@Leto: old Kmart
New school
mrmoshpotato
@Jeffro: I was speaking more generally, because advanced lung cancer…not even Rushbo can hate that away.
WaterGirl
@germy: OT, but I was just teasing earlier today about your nym. I hate it when people change their nyms, so I am glad yours is staying.
Mary G
Surprise! The website isn’t coming “next week”:
That stupid “flow chart” Pence held up looked like amateur hour.
Immanentize
@delk: Good repurpose. Or is it a Charter Scam?
WereBear
@Subsole: The reason so many people seem to determined to kill themselves with their vote is the enormous influence inflicted by deliberate propaganda from both Faux News and fanatical religion.
This is about 1/3 of the population and they are hopeless. They also cheat. We need to get out the vote to get past the cheater’s edge.
Subsole
@Jeffro: True. Bunch of assholes threw a tantrum ’cause they ain’t nineteen anymore and ain’t gonna be ever again. And here we are.
Smartest thing I ever heard was that they hated Obama because he was the black man who SAVED them.
They could grit their teeth if he was just black. But the fact he pulled their asses out of the fire they set for themselves? Oh child…
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@WereBear:
Thanks. It’s better to overreact than under-react imo in these situations. I’d assume 1918 pandemic levels
p.a.
@WereBear: I assume some %age are being used currently also.
mrmoshpotato
@Immanentize: Yup. I’d take a President Kasich like we had a President Cheney. (Well, without the murdered Iraqis, but ya know.)
Aleta
(copy of letter)
Subsole
@PenAndKey:
Yeah. Though I really do wonder how much of the blame goes to the talent and how much to the producers?
Much as I hate ’em, we are usually looking at the monkeys, not the organ-grinders…
Except David Brooks.
Fuck that guy.
He knows exactly what he’s done.
terry chay
@Leto: The commenter knows that 19 stands for 2019. Also COVID-19 is not the “virus” it is the disease. The virus is SARS-CoV-2.
mrmoshpotato
@WereBear:
We can’t forget the tens of millions who used their votes to send a message. That message – “Go fuck yourself, Hillary!”
Immanentize
@Aleta: I heart Sherrod. And his wife!
WereBear
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): And we are acting NOW, it will get spread out, we hope; but it’s criminal how much time we lost. That’s what I hear from so many sources: they do the math and keep hoping it’s less virulent because otherwise is so frightening.
Yes, there’s more smoking in China, plus air pollution. But high blood pressure and diabetes is rampant in the US; and that’s a real negative for mortality, too.
Scout211
@Glidwrith:
And now Fresno Unified (California) for at least 3 weeks.
delk
@Immanentize: not sure. A priest that taught me in HS was involved.
WereBear
@mrmoshpotato: Yes.
Everybody who dies should know it was because of sexism.
Jeffro
@Immanentize: It’s funny…who’s Rush going to leave that fortune to, anyway? I don’t think he has any kids, and he probably isn’t going to leave a dime to his four ex-wives.
Maybe the Central American Sex Tourism Bureau*? Whatever trade association represents cigar makers or hearing-aid companies?
*per his 2011 comments…not making that up
Here’s hoping he failed to do any estate planning and that most of it ends up taxed and lawyered away. I’d hate to think of it going straight to another TCNJ jackass
Another Scott
Warning – Politico:
https://www.c-span.org/video/?470342-2/house-members-coronavirus-response
Go, Nancy, Go. Get it done.
Cheers,
Scott.
WereBear
@Jeffro: Rush might spend it on his own ICU facility. If he catches COVID-19, he’s a goner NOW.
Raven Onthill
I have decided that Trump has a theme song: Bob Esty’s “It’s Not Our Fault.” (Can’t find the original recording, but that one is fun.)
Immanentize
@Jeffro: He has a mostly reasonable sister who I remember defended him 5 or 7 years ago as family? I looked once for that article after the “SLUT!” comments (can’t remember the young target’s name) but couldn’t find it….
A Ghost to Most
Interesting. I’ve never seen a mob boss use his communicable disease as a loyalty test. He truly is a piece of shit.
mrmoshpotato
@Subsole:
Written bullshit for decades and been paid handsomely!
I wonder if Driftglass will mention David Fucking Brooks on tonight’s Professional Left episode. There’s bound to be much talk of “President Stupid.”
terry chay
@The Moar You Know: The reason there is no cure for “the common cold” is because the “common cold” is not one virus but a set of symptoms for a host of different viruses and bacteria. The most common of them is the rhinovirus which is too small for our antibodies to recognize and combat. Vaccines depend on teaching our immune system.
As for the coronavirus. I’ll bet they’ll have a vaccine for SARS-CoV-2 maybe in 18 months (assuming that they relax testing protocols enough to cut 6 months off of that, else 2 years).
Mary G
Attn Subaru Diane and other opera lovers:
Our school district, which has remained open with its head in the sand by refusing to close because there have been no cases here, is abruptly announcing an emergency meeting tonight of the Board of Trustees to close schools starting Monday. Just yesterday they sent a message to parents pretty much poo-pooing the idea. It’s going to be bad for the teen.
Subsole
@mrmoshpotato: Cinnaedus Rusii, maybe?
I dunno any Latin. Whole language is entirely Greek to me.
Leto
@delk: @Immanentize: don’t know if it’s a charter scam but I’m glad they’re reusing it. We have a lot of old infrastructure that I’m sure we could do that with, re-purpose for something else. Just need people like Suzanne to make sure it’s done correctly.
mrmoshpotato
@WereBear: Also racism – sixty-two million bigots and imbeciles had to “suffer” through 8 years of an intelligent, decent President who was black.
mrmoshpotato
@Another Scott: Thank you again to everyone who kept their Representative’s seat blue or flipped it blue. I can’t imagine 4 years of no checks and balances. Two was bad enough, and it’s still pretty bad, but we have footing to fight.
A Ghost to Most
@terry chay:
It will always be covfefe-45 to me.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Mary G: LAUSD was reluctant as well, the teacher’s union was persuasive.
Subsole
@WereBear: Oh I know, man. Seen it all my life. And it’ a reinforcing network of interlocking propaganda – church, fox, online, radio…
Any ideas on how to break it? ‘Cause you are absolutely right about how destructive it is.
I mean, these fuckers are a straight drug cartel -they just pack their opiates in hatred and fear and self-righteousness instead of gelcaps.
Jeffro
@A Ghost to Most: win
Mary G
Leto
@A Ghost to Most:
the only correct answer
A Ghost to Most
From Rubin’s latest at WaPo:
debbie
OMG, I listened from work and almost puked at the non-stop tongue bath Trump was given.
ballerat
@Mary G: It’s not going to be used to triage testing. It will be used to triage the seriously ill. And for Google, to get into the medical data field. They want data like what Epic is sitting on.
Mary G
??????
Leto
@Mary G: That is great news!
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@Mary G:
Awesome news, I think? That was the ruling that basically made it impossible for Congress to require testimony from Admin officials
Ruckus
@Shalimar:
It’s not complicated. It does require actual thought and the people in charge now do not do actual thought. They follow the script that they are given. That is the sum total of their mental capacity, following orders/scripts
Ken
@Mary G: Don’t they realize the President has a major crisis to ignore and can’t be distracted from his golf score by petty issues like this?
LuciaMia
Keep thinking of the Simpsons episode, where Bart gets famous with his catch phrase, “I didn’t do it!”
Mary G
@ballerat: Pence was certainly selling it at the press conference as triage for testing.
Enhanced Voting Techniques
@debbie: Well, a bunch of old, overly privileged, white Guys having to orally service Trump on National TV is a very, very small price to pay for getting the states more money to fight this thing.
And if they will have given each other the virus during all the totally NOT gay fun; those executives will be able to die knowing that they helped their fellow citizens for once in their otherwise worthless lives.
Marcopolo
I’ve now watched a couple of clips of Trump getting tough questions. It looks like they were cutting off the mic with reporters whose questions they did not like so they could not do any follow up.
Trump is a coward.
debbie
@Enhanced Voting Techniques:
LOL. Nope, it was very definitely gross.
Ruckus
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
Once the occupancy gets below break even it’s better to close the doors than run it at a loss. And once it’s closed there is no reason for someone else to purchase it, it’s zoned for sales, not production or medical or really anything else. So until someone with enough money comes along to purchase it, turn it into a field or possibly nice housing it’s going to sit there, a nice write off for someone.
Enhanced Voting Techniques
@Mary G: How do one “triage” a test? Triage means some of the patients can wait, some can’t be saved.
terry chay
@mrmoshpotato: And yet, Hillary looks happier than ever, as does Obama. Those two sleep well at night. Lol!
Mary G
Note from Speaker SMASH attached. I’ll believe it when Twitler and the Turtle sign on the dotted line.
terry chay
@A Ghost to Most: Lol!
Subsole
@mrmoshpotato:
God I hope. That man is a treasure.
satby
@Mary G: the NYT still has a catwalk around their Covid-19 stories?CREAM
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Ruckus: This is the YouTube vid I was talking about, he doesn’t have seem to have done any in the past year, but it’s a good set of videos. I’ve been to many of the places he’s gone to(two in the last couple of months).
Mary G
@satby: No, they are open if you make an account and at least on my phone, download their app. I haven’t, just use the login from the subscription I cancelled in 2017 on the PC. Apps are garbage.
Mary G
Chyron HR
@Mary G:
A drop in the bucket compared to SWINE FLU!
SiubhanDuinne
@Mary G: Thanks. Will pass along to my mailing list.
mrmoshpotato
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Marcopolo
If you ever need an example to show how reporters clean up for Trump’s lying, this little outtake from The 1A is a perfect example. Click through and listen. It’s about 90 seconds long.
Mary G
@SiubhanDuinne: I am sorry to use Stuck’s old name, but I’m always afraid of spelling your nym wrong and too lazy to look for it.
Geminid
Well, on the bright side we now have better prospects of flipping Senate seats in ME, AZ, CO, NC, IA, MT, TX, KS, SC, and KY. And 2 in GA. Barbara Boullier’s chances in Kansas may be especially enhanced, what with her being “a doctor, not a politician, who wants to clean up the mess in Washington,” as her campaign website presciently stated. She is actually a State Senator, besides being a doctor, but good copywriting is good copywriting.
Mary G
Yamiche brings the shade:
debbie
@Mary G:
Boy, I’d be surprised if McConnell and Trump actually agree to this. Plus, a third bill?
debbie
@mrmoshpotato:
Pence must have got turned on after Trump called national emergency “two big words.” Mother never talks like that. //
Ruckus
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
In my travels around the country I’ve seen a number of abandoned malls. I don’t know where, if anywhere there is a major number of them but mostly they were overbuilt for the surrounding areas and never really took off. I’d bet that it’s the customer base size that was overestimated when it was built and the people just never showed up. I know that Wal Mart at one time wouldn’t build if there wasn’t 50k people within a certain sized radius, they just would never justify the money.
Mike in NC
Carve that on the old pigfucker’s tombstone, which people will gladly wait in line for several hours to piss on.
Gravenstone
@delk: Why don’t we let someone who has a serious case of covid-19 lick your eyeballs, Rush. (cruel to the licker, yes) Then we can sit back and see how you feel about “the 19th version of the cold”. Fucking ambulatory waste of protoplasm.
waspuppet
Knew it. ABC and CNN have Trump’s blame-shifting way down on the front page. NBC and CBS have nothing at all. The main headlines on all four homepages — Trump announces national emergency, stocks go through roof.
They’re trying so hard to make him sound like a coherent president.
joel hanes
@Mary G:
Soap and water are much better than sanitizer.
https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2020/3/11/21173187/coronavirus-covid-19-hand-washing-sanitizer-compared-soap-is-dope
Even here in the Silicon Valley epicenter of infection, I was able to score a dozen bars of Dial.
Personal wash kit: two baggies, two washcloths, dishtowel: in one baggie, a washcloth wet with very soapy water; in the other, a washcloth wrung damp to wipe off the soap; the handtowel for drying after. Inexpensive , renewable , available.
Mike G
Some of the MAGAts who voted for this orange trash are going to die from his negligence, and I don’t feel sorry for them at all.
J R in WV
@The Moar You Know:
But, but, but!!
What if we have to attack Iran, or Iraq, or The DPRK, real soon now?!?!!!! We’ll need those battlefield medical tents! Why would you put sick people in a tent when they could have a closed Macy’s building?!?
;-)
ballerat
@Mary G: Oh yeah, that’s what it’s ostensible purpose is. But we know they don’t want to test people and even at the presser Trump discouraged testing. So what it is really for?
Apart from giving Google a chance to collect possibly millions of PHI records and a foot into the healthcare biz, it seems it could work like this:
How high is your fever? Do you have pneumonia? Have you traveled to China recently? Is there a test available? All yes? You are in the result set that can get tested.
It sounds like CDC does that now, manually, one request at a time, apparently.
But such an app could also be repurposed to rank records (people) by other criteria.
Are you 60 or older? Do you have x, y or z current or previous health issues or do you need a ventilator? All yes, you are in the triage result set.
We know they will have to triage people if the infection rate curve projection holds (and Trump has done zero to flatten it). How are they going to handle the process of triaging a million people?
It seems to me like like such an app sure could be used to do that.
MoCA Ace
Good luck wiping your ass with Spam
ballerat
@ballerat: So Google is not building a “triage testing” website:
https://www.theverge.com/2020/3/13/21179118/google-coronavirus-testing-screening-website-drive-thru-covid-19