Since the virus became a clear serious threat and newscasters are all broadcasting from home, the quality of the news has gone through the roof. I guess because this is a life or death issue that actually impacts them, they have decided to just either dismiss or on the spot correct President Shit for Brains and the members of his cargo cult. There’s none of that he-said/she-said bullshit. Nothing.
Imagine if they did this for other actual life or death situations like climate change or the rest of the issues they usually fuck up?
Hodgepodge, Mishmash or Smorgasbord?
Krope, the Formerly Dope
Wait, so they were actually capable of journalism this whole time
ETA: First! Still the dopest and the freshest.
Jerzy Russian
Gone through the roof? Maybe through the basement “roof” which is the same as the ground floor. On the other hand, an improvement is an improvement.
Enhanced Voting Techniques
It’s been observed that most people work better when they aren’t being continually hounded by management.
Probably better to say the executive staff cut out to isolate in their summer homes leaving the staff to say what they want.
Gemina13
Maybe this is something we need to pursue – journalism without managers or CEOs.
How do we do it?
StringOnAStick
The public radio program Marketplace did a story 2 days ago about the financial trouble the U.S. Post Office is in. All that talk and yet no mention that in 2006 the USPS had a $600 million profit, then the congressman for FedEx (Memphis) got a bill passed that required the USPS to have 75 years of retirement funds banked for every employee. Instant red ink, and a fat pension fund that the MOTU can’t wait to raid.
So, some journalism is still worse than other journalism.
Jerzy Russian
@Krope, the Formerly Dope: Maybe they thought Trump was a Democrat, at least for a moment. A lot of us are loopy after being cooped up, and “journalists” are no exception.
Llelldorin
I wonder if this is simply the first time that management has decided that Trump’s incompetence is actively dangerous to them personally? If you think of government as something that happens to the little people, it’s easy to forgive incompetence that gives you a nice bonus on your taxes. That incompetence takes on an entirely different flavor when it stands a serious chance of killing you.
FelonyGovt
I get the feeling that some of them have finally had enough of reporting lies and bullshit. Maybe it’s because the virus affects them, maybe working from home makes them braver and less tolerant of the line of crap they’ve been fed. Either way, it’s kind of refreshing, if way overdue.
joel hanes
Climate change doesn’t insult reporters to their faces.
Trump does.
Reporters and editors don’t like that.
But some editors are still wimping out — MSNBC was, last I knew, still carrying Trump’s <strike>pressers</strike> hate rallies live, and the FTFNYT headlines still refuse to accurately identify Republican fuckery as belonging to Republicans.
cain
@Jerzy Russian:
That will be hilarious when Fox News chryon identifies trump as a democrat when he eventually fails.
Meanwhile, beaches are re-opening and Florida is going back to work and everything is gonna be normal!
This is not going to end well. But I guess like Kansas, a lesson has to be made. It took a long while for Kansas to get it after years of all Republican rule.
West of the Rockies
So if we end up taking the White House and Senate, I wonder how long it will be before someone declares it is time to “reach across the aisle and work with the reasonable men and (3) women of the Republican party.”
I’m not suggesting a scorched earth policy, but I hope McConnell (if he is not defeated) is treated like Typhoid Turtle.
lgerard
@cain:
I’m looking forward to this Thanksgiving when we learn that trump “wasn’t really a conservative”
oatler.
I hate-listened to a Ricochet podcast where the Honourable Members reached a consensus that Covid19 struck mostly the elderly and that therefore the young and able- bodied should return to work…like staffing restaurants.
Bill Arnold
Another related effect is that the rich and powerful tend to be older and members of the age cohorts that are most likely to be killed by SARS-Cov-2. The mortal threat posed by this virus is … focusing and in many cases in direct conflict with conservative ideology, e.g. Mammon demands more Death, but they don’t really want to personally die for Mammon.
Now, with some of the younger conservatives who are calling for mass sacrifice, one wonders if they are psychopaths trying to improve the odds of an early inheritance.
James E Powell
Many people watch & report on what the cable channels are doing. I bless them because they are helping me maintain sanity and a functioning digestive system. From what I’ve seen reported here and elsewhere, there are several who have changed their tone, but the FTFNYT is still the FTFNYT, Maggie still adds her special touch to every Trump story, and the ~42% are still addicted to whatever Trump, FOX, and Rush tell them.
The structure, the network, the bubble, whatever we call it, is still there. Many of us expect to crack at some point. Not complete collapse, just a sizable chunk, like a glacier calving a large block of ice.
Will we ever see it?
Major Major Major Major
If climate change were this acute, I’m sure they would be doing the same about it. Also, some of them didn’t really believe it would be like this in an actual emergency; this is a fairly popular opinion, and members of the media are not exempt from it.
Krope, the Formerly Dope
How long does it take to tabulate election returns? That’s how long.
Also, which Rs will be defined as the reasonable ones? All of them, Katie.
NotMax
But they’re still unduly reticent about employing the “lying” word.
danielx
I admit to some disappointment.
When I see a headline from Cole that questions “Do you know what really pisses me off?” I was expecting a numbered list.
HumboldtBlue
One lesson I learned is watch your local government.
Of course, I live in a state that respects and works for good government so it’s easy here.
West of the Rockies
@James E Powell:
A lot of the resentment mongers on radio and TV are rather aged and infirm. Oh, sure, they are like shark teeth (an endless supply), but cancerous Limbaugh, 77-year-old Savage, and others will croak. Pirro may just spontaneously combust if she exhales near a heat source. Do the “up and comers” (up and dumbers) have the same audience appeal? Who actually listens to Diamond and Silk?
Kent
FTFY
Kent
What REALLY FUCKING pisses me off is all the Dem governors who are sucking up toTrump in order to get medical supplies.
On Facebook one of my MAGA relatives recently posted something to the effect of “Trump must be doing something right because the Governor of California was praising him”
trollhattan
I miss the days when all the major local news stations could all afford their own helicopter and a phalanx of remote production vans with microwave towers, and because they had all those toys they would use them relentlessly to report…whatevs.
“Live from the ‘Cameros for Chlamydia Concourse’ this is Chopper Bob reporting. Back to you in the studio, Brandon and Muffin.”
And what irked the shit out of me was reporting from a non-event hours after it occurred. They’d slap some cub reporter in front of city hall to talk about the meeting that ended five hours earlier.
Omnes Omnibus
@Kent: Yeah, the governors who are trying to get supplies to keep the people in their states alive are the ones you should be pissed at. Good thinking.
Mo Salad
@danielx: Hell, I was expecting a one word post: “Everything”.
danielx
@Kent:
What should piss you off is that they feel they have to kiss his pasty white ass to get what their citizens need.
eta: bear in mind this is like negotiating with a five year old.
Mnemosyne
@Llelldorin:
I agree that this is it. All the tax cuts in the world don’t do you any good if you’re dead.
Mnemosyne
@Kent:
You should maybe look at what those governors are actually saying rather than taking a Trumper’s word for it. Newsome is doling out the most anodyne, dismissive “praise” possible and Trump is lapping it up because it’s the only thing that keeps him going.
Krope, the Formerly Dope
It would be one thing if the Governors could band together and unanimously reject Trump’s demands for fealty. Unfortunately, though, some of them actually like him. Though, I bet a little minor compliment from a D Gov goes way farther for Trump than the gushing of Rs, both for his “good graces” and his campaign’s ad team.
Except the five year old ought not to have the power in that relationship. Put the ramen on the counter so we can pay for it or you aren’t getting it.
TS (the original)
@Krope, the Formerly Dope:
I would doubt that – they may appear to like him and/or they may like his racist approach to government but he is not a man that people like.
SectionH
@Kent: Did you see Cuomo today? If you think that’s praising, I don’t know what to say.
Never mind.
I’m a woman: don’t fucking tell me that not macho-ing back at a malevolent narcissist is praising him. I generally like your comments, but damn son
eta: and just maybe you should consider the way the press is presenting the Dem Govs’ comments as part of the way you react.
cain
@trollhattan:
Well, you know, execs need more money now, so everyone has to tighten their belt cuz they are expensive.
Krope, the Formerly Dope
Well, then, I know a lot of entities claiming to be people that must be something else…
Jay
The US MSM is still utter shit in it’s coverage/reportage it’s just now, from time to time there is 3-4% fibre
It’s not like 2002 when a tiny few in the US MSM called bullshit on America’s Road To War by using things like “facts” and “history”.
Kent
Yes, I know. And I agree. I just hate the mafia fucking game we have to play. Situation still pisses the hell out of me.
Kent
I was just venting. Governors gotta do what they gotta do. I understand that. Pisses the hell out of me that we have to have our governors jack off the president to get him to do 3% of this job.
I did see Cuomo today after I wrote that comment. He definitely has no fucks left to give.
StringOnAStick
I’m lucky to have a competent D governor and listening to his daily pressers is reassuring. Today he did a very mild tRump thank you but it was so interest to see how it was from a position of strength and “yeah, whatever little man”, just the best subtle shade. To read a transcript of his comments would take extreme between the lines skill though.
The state Senate minority leader called the lockdown order something the Nazis would have done. Our governor is Jewish, married with children and openly gay, and the can of moral whoop ass he opened on that guy at his daily presser was a thing of controlled righteous dope slap. The idiot, rather than apologize did the “I should have used a different word” dodge but looked about 2″ tall.
StringOnAStick
I’m lucky to have a competent D governor and listening to his daily pressers is reassuring. Today he did a very mild tRump thank you but it was so interest to see how it was from a position of strength and “yeah, whatever little man”, just the best subtle shade. To read a transcript of his comments would take extreme between the lines skill though.
The state Senate minority leader called the lockdown order something the Nazis would have done. Our governor is Jewish, married with children and openly gay, and the can of moral whoop ass he opened on that guy at his daily presser was a thing of controlled righteous dope slap. The idiot, rather than apologize did the “I should have used a different word” dodge but looked about 2″ tall.
Enhanced Voting Techniques
@Mnemosyne: Yes, lol or Cuomo, who one moment is being nice to Trump and the next tell Trump to sod off.
Enhanced Voting Techniques
They did. Remember when Trump declared himself king and he was going to decide when the country reopens? The governors said nope and then Trump “delegated” the reopening to them.
Van Buren
@West of the Rockies: I was going to say 7PM on 1/21/21, but actually I think 7PM on 11/4/20
leeleeFL
@Gemina13: We pay for it. Shut off the BS and create a source that works for the truth. Use to be NPR and PBS. Could be again. Bill Moyers ain’t dead yet. MAYBE THIS IS WHY.
Last night, I subscribed to the WaPo. They had a $29/ subscription, digital. I did it because they’ve been trying to tell the truth more often than most. And I have always had a soft spot for Marty Baron since his Spotlight days.
leeleeFL
@NotMax: Heard it on CNN! Almost clapped my hands off!
leeleeFL
@Omnes Omnibus: Beat me to it! Ppl need to pay attention.
SFAW
@danielx:
SFAW
Charlie Baker (Republican MA Gov) appears to be trying hard not to say what he really thinks of the Murderer-in-Chief, although he sometimes expresses his frustration with little things like the Feds stealing PPE which MA had purchased. I haven’t yet heard him do any ass-kissing, but maybe I just haven’t been “privileged” enough (i.e., listening to him when he said it) to hear it.
Sab
@cain: Didn’t the Spanish flu actually start in Kansas?
WaterGirl
John, you’re an easier grader than I am. I would give the media about a C+ at this point, for barely starting to push back. I grant you, however, that the difference between total lapdogs and a bit of pushback is HUGE.
Miss Bianca
@StringOnAStick: Oh, where is that one? I wanna see it!
rollSound
@West of the Rockies:
Both of them?