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Pandemic Open Thread: Trump Just Likes Killing People

by Anne Laurie|  April 21, 20206:34 pm| 63 Comments

This post is in: COVID-19, Open Threads, Republican Venality, Trump Crime Cartel, MONSTERS

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The governor of Alabama is smarter than the ‘governor’ of Georgia:

Alabama Gov. Kay Ivey told the state that it's not safe to reopen — not without more testing and better numbers — and she kept her stay-at-home order in place. It's like Seinfeld's bizarro world. I don't know what to think anymore. https://t.co/UKBNIGgsmn

— Josh Moon (@Josh_Moon) April 21, 2020

Oval Office Occupant is… not:

If Trump weren't already terrible, removing Bill Barr as AG would be reason enough to vote for the Democratic nominee. https://t.co/uKWvxbzqKM

— Andy (@trtx84) April 21, 2020

This is it. This is all that it is. Get sick, die, what do I care as long as I win. He says it out loud. And he is right. Nobody cares. America is past caring that literally the worst person in it is its president. https://t.co/xrM3nu5VQy

— Slava Malamud (@SlavaMalamud) April 20, 2020

He can’t be a king, but at least he can have people killed for his whims!

I'm shocked, shocked that Trump killed people. https://t.co/Rk3nMfZzby

— Jeff Fecke (@jkfecke) April 21, 2020

Politico’s @owermohle and I first wrote a month ago about how Trump’s hunch on hydroxychloroquine was pulling health officials away from other, more promising drugs and raising concerns given lack of data. https://t.co/xxQzOqN6z8

— Dan Diamond (@ddiamond) April 21, 2020

And his party… is fine with that.

It’s not an exaggeration when I say that Republicans’ #1 priority is killing poor people. They literally say it out loud regularly. https://t.co/9f0wNNYaow

— Evan Robertson (@evanrobertsonDC) April 21, 2020

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  1. 1.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    April 21, 2020 at 6:37 pm

    Aaron Rupar @atrupar·1m
    “The stock market is still not doing badly considering what this country’s been through” — Trump’s economic boasts have definitely lost some juice

    I don’t know how much these things cost, but throwing up a quick youtube ad with that might be a good way to whittle down those people who only care about their money

  2. 2.

    khead

    April 21, 2020 at 6:41 pm

    The Darwin Awards are gonna be LIT this year.

  3. 3.

    dmsilev

    April 21, 2020 at 6:41 pm

    As I posted this morning, they remind me of a scene from the first part of The Ten Commandments, talking about slave productivity:

    Moses: A city is made of brick, Pharaoh. The strong make many. The weak make few. The dead make none. So much for accusations.

    Except, instead of being Moses, the GOP are that priest racking up all of the “sins” of providing food for the slaves and so forth.

  4. 4.

    dmsilev

    April 21, 2020 at 6:44 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Also, headlines from the business world today are things like “Wall Street suffers its worst drop in three weeks as oil market craters.” (NY Times), so he really comes across like Monty Python’s Black Knight (“tis but a flesh wound…”).

  5. 5.

    patrick Il

    April 21, 2020 at 6:45 pm

    So, evidently an operation did not go well for Kim Jung Un. If you are his doctors, do you hope he recovers or not?

  6. 6.

    bluehill

    April 21, 2020 at 6:46 pm

    Wonder when the protestors will show up in Montgomery?

  7. 7.

    A Ghost to Most

    April 21, 2020 at 6:46 pm

    The christian fascist takeover continues.

  8. 8.

    debbie

    April 21, 2020 at 6:54 pm

    What the fuck kind of answer is that? “Do you worry that people who support you are dying?” “A lot of people love me. We’re going to win again.”

    I’ve always known what a son of a bitch he is, but he just keeps getting worse and worse.

  9. 9.

    Lord Fartdaddy (Formerly, Mumphrey, Smedley Darlington Mingobat, et al.)

    April 21, 2020 at 6:54 pm

    I hate these fucking people.  I hate them.

  10. 10.

    Brachiator

    April 21, 2020 at 6:55 pm

    RE: The governor of Alabama is smarter than the ‘governor’ of Georgia:

    Alabama Gov. Kay Ivey told the state that it’s not safe to reopen — not without more testing and better numbers — and she kept her stay-at-home order in place.

    I think that she is a woman may have something to do with it in this case. And yes, it may be culture, not innate biology. She might be less inclined to be drawn into stupid “prove your toughness” bullshit than some American male governors. And some of the idiot “liberate” fools seem to be insecure males with something to prove.

    I’m shocked, shocked that Trump killed people.

    And again, the weird thing is that Trump’s supporters see with their own eyes that Trump gives less than a shit about thrm, and yet they are still eager to sign up to join his death cult.

  11. 11.

    Nora

    April 21, 2020 at 6:55 pm

    I would LOVE to see what justification Barr has for prosecuting states’ governors.  Seriously. There is not a shred of Constitutional basis for that, even with the most supine Supreme Court.

  12. 12.

    chopper

    April 21, 2020 at 6:55 pm

    @patrick Il:

    if i’m his doctor, i get another one of his doctors to do some bang-up plastic surgery.

  13. 13.

    r€nato

    April 21, 2020 at 6:55 pm

    #AllLivesMatter sure had a short shelf life

  14. 14.

    Scout211

    April 21, 2020 at 6:56 pm

    We ventured out into the world yesterday in search of bleach. We need bleach for our well to kill bacteria once a month. I saw online that Walmart had some in stock so we drove to a tiny Walmart in a neighboring county. I was very impressed with Walmart. All employees were wearing masks, most of the aisles were marked for one-way traffic and  they provided you with their reusable bags for free. Checkout clerks were not allowed to touch reusable bags brought in by the customers. And at least 2/3 of the customers were wearing masks.

  15. 15.

    khead

    April 21, 2020 at 6:56 pm

    It’s infrastructure week again.

  16. 16.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    April 21, 2020 at 6:57 pm

    Aaron Rupar @atrupar 3m
    Asked about coronavirus’s impact on the properties he still owns and profits from, Trump notes that his children are running them then adds, “I love my children. And I wish them well. I look forward to comparing my numbers with my children’s numbers.”

    the blatant corruption aside…. I wonder who told him Normals love their children, and think everyone should

  17. 17.

    r€nato

    April 21, 2020 at 6:57 pm

    @Brachiator: I would not dream of getting between them and the Reaper.

  18. 18.

    Roger Moore

    April 21, 2020 at 6:59 pm

    @patrick Il:

    So, evidently an operation did not go well for Kim Jung Un.

    The South Korean government is denying the rumors.

  19. 19.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    April 21, 2020 at 7:03 pm

    Aaron Rupar @atrupar 1m
    Trump takes a question from ultra-sycophantic OAN basically asking him why people support his policies so much. Trump responds by saying “I think it’s going to be a renaissance” and then ends the briefing.

    Looks like a short one today… I wonder if somehow it’s seeped in that the longer he stays up there, the worse he looks.
    I’ve seen some mention of Birx today but none of Fauci. Anybody see if he was up there?

  20. 20.

    Brachiator

    April 21, 2020 at 7:11 pm

    @debbie:

    What the fuck kind of answer is that? “Do you worry that people who support you are dying?” “A lot of people love me. We’re going to win again.”

    I’ve always known what a son of a bitch he is, but he just keeps getting worse and worse.

    I am not a therapist. I don’t even play one on the Internets. I don’t know what is wrong with Trump, but I have often said that he would get worse as president, demand more praise and screw up more.

    I thought that he would show his essential cowardice and stupidity in reaction to a military conflict. I never thought he would start a war. He is too afraid and too risk averse for that. Getting soldiers killed would make him look bad. But I thought that he might get drawn into a conflict and then massively screw things up.

    I never, never in any fever dream saw a pandemic coming. But Trump’s behavior has been worse than I imagined, but in some ways not unexpected. He has not done a goddam thing, has run away from any real leadership, and yet he still demands praise for what he hasn’t done, sulks and withholds assistance, and fights with the people he is supposed to help.

    Most of all, he has absolutely no idea how to deal with the virus. He can’t mock it. And even if he calls it a hoax or fake news, the virus will still kill people. Trump can’t duck and dodge that reality.

    But he is not only trying to pretend that it’s not his fault, but he is also trying to pretend that he can make the problem go away by denying that it is there.  He needs to be praised, to be told that he is perfect, that he made America great. And he is willing to let people die so that he can feel good about himself.

    Because that is what he needs. And he still has people willing to go along with this, to give him what he wants.

    The crazy thing is that if he were the third rate authoritarian ruler of a tiny country, he would have been deposed and end up living with the loot he stole in some out of the way country.

    Instead, he is the lowest rate authoritarian ruler of the United States of America.  And it will be up to us to vote his sorry ass out of office.

    Trump will never get better. But he will get worse.

     

  21. 21.

    Barbara

    April 21, 2020 at 7:21 pm

    I got a news update on that study.   The results were adjusted to account for relative differences in acuity, and still showed no positive impact, and might have had a deleterious effect.  No doubt Trump has already sold whatever stock it was that prompted his demand for studies.

    In the study, patients who received both hydroxychloroquine alone and the combination of hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin were more likely to have severe Covid-19 disease, compared to people who didn’t get the drugs. But even after statistically adjusting for those differences, patients getting hydroxychloroquine alone still had a higher death rate than those not getting it. There was no clear difference in death rates among those getting the combination compared to those getting no drug.
    Results from the unpublished study were first reported by the Associated Press.
    In Brazil, part of another clinical trial was suspended because patients getting higher doses of chloroquine, a related drug, appeared to be more likely to die, according to a preprint of the study that had not yet been published in a scientific journal.
    Other studies of the drugs in thousand of patients are ongoing around the world to try and determine whether the drug might work as a treatment or a preventive measure.
    If hydroxychloroquine or the closely-related drug chloroquine is given alone, patients should be monitored for side effects, including the heart rhythm disturbances that can lead to sudden death, the NIH panel said.
    The panel said that no drug has been proven effective for use in patients with the diseases caused by the new coronavirus, and didn’t endorse the use of any other therapies outside of clinical trials. The panel’s recommendations for now focus on supportive care, such as oxygen.
    The group also said medicines commonly used to treat HIV, including AbbVie Inc.’s Kaletra, should be avoided because of negative clinical trial data and potential harm to patients.

  22. 22.

    Comrade Scrutinizer

    April 21, 2020 at 7:23 pm

    If Trump, his minions, his sycophants, and most of all the people behind the money behind the throne were all to catch diseases that caused them to have protracted,  painful deaths and they begged me for the cure, I’d piss in the bottle and pour it in a dirty litter box while they looked on.

  23. 23.

    Geminid

    April 21, 2020 at 7:27 pm

    Trump has made me appreciate the good acting Humphrey Bogart did in The Treasure of the Sierra Madre and in The Caine Mutiny. I’ve thought for a while that Trump was channeling Fred C. Dobbs; now he’s also starting to throw in some Captain Queeg.

  24. 24.

    Jackie

    April 21, 2020 at 7:28 pm

    @Brachiator: South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem disproves that theory…

  25. 25.

    LuciaMia

    April 21, 2020 at 7:30 pm

    responds by saying “I think it’s going to be a renaissance”

    Thus spake Theodoric of York, Medieval Barber.

  26. 26.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    April 21, 2020 at 7:33 pm

    @Brachiator: As one of his supporters said a year or so ago, “he hates the right people”.

  27. 27.

    trnc

    April 21, 2020 at 7:33 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    I wonder who told him Normals love their children, and think everyone should

    So Junior finally got to hear it, even though he was lumped in with the others and it isn’t entirely certain that the portly papa knows all of their names.

  28. 28.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    April 21, 2020 at 7:34 pm

    @Nora: I have 2 words for AG Barr, States Rights.

  29. 29.

    mrmoshpotato

    April 21, 2020 at 7:43 pm

    @debbie:

    What the fuck kind of answer is that? “Do you worry that people who support you are dying?” “A lot of people love me. We’re going to win again.” 

    The answer of a sociopathic narcissist?

    Hooray for everyone who told Hillary to get fucked.

  30. 30.

    Jeffro

    April 21, 2020 at 7:47 pm

    How the hydroxy-thingy isn’t grounds for impeachement 2, or calls to resign, or…um…someone doing something worse, I’ll never understand.

    An American president* publicly, enthusiastically, widely touting an untested drug, with both anecdotal evidence and actual data that it ended up killing American citizens.

    But talk to me about tan suits and arugula, please, trumpublicans.

  31. 31.

    WaterGirl

    April 21, 2020 at 7:49 pm

    @?BillinGlendaleCA: My two words for him are Fuck and You.  Yours might be a bit more constructive than mine.

  32. 32.

    White & Gold Purgatorian

    April 21, 2020 at 7:50 pm

    Kay Ivey was once a Democrat, 20 or so years ago, so perhaps there is still a kernel of decency left in her heart. Also, she is older than dirt so definitely has skin in this coronavirus game. I’ve been pleasantly surprised at how sensible she has been in closing things down — most any other Alabama Republican would have been trying to outdo Mississippi, Georgia and Florida in keeping stuff open. Thank Dog for small favors.

  33. 33.

    WaterGirl

    April 21, 2020 at 7:50 pm

    @debbie: Is that for real?  I gather that it is.  Wow.  We are out in there lay dragons territory.

  34. 34.

    japa21

    April 21, 2020 at 7:54 pm

    Went to do my Costco run today.  They just keep making it safer and safer. Some areas with one way aisles, the scan your card through plexiglass and you take your own receipt form the printer.

    Also, according to Pritzker, there is new modeling out. Originally, IL was supposed to hit its peak right about now. Now pushed off to Mid-May at earliest. That is not good.

  35. 35.

    mrmoshpotato

    April 21, 2020 at 7:55 pm

    Asked about Georgia opening tattoo parlors, nail salons and other businesses where people have to be close, Trump said, "Are they doing testing before they go in? We have to find that out." He said he's going to be asking Kemp. (No, nail salons aren't doing coronavirus testing.)— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) April 21, 2020

    The bimbo of Fox mornings’ Two Tumors and a Bimbo can finally get her nails done.

    Time for a road trip to Georgia, Ainsley!

  36. 36.

    Brachiator

    April 21, 2020 at 7:56 pm

    @Jeffro:

    An American president* publicly, enthusiastically, widely touting an untested drug, with both anecdotal evidence and actual data that it ended up killing American citizens.

    Trump was once again just like the dumbest of his base. You know, a guy in a bar, before the lockdown, who would say “fuck science. Ya gotta try anything. Whatta we got to lose.”

    Science, facts, rigorous methodology is for effete elitists. Real American men and women believe in gut instinct and the efficacy of the Hail Mary pass.

  37. 37.

    mrmoshpotato

    April 21, 2020 at 7:57 pm

    @Jeffro: Yup, especially with a manchild heading the party who looks like he smeared spicy mustard all over his head and let it dry.

  38. 38.

    Brachiator

    April 21, 2020 at 8:01 pm

    @?BillinGlendaleCA:

    As one of his supporters said a year or so ago, “he hates the right people”.

    These fools don’t realize that he hates them, too.

  39. 39.

    WaterGirl

    April 21, 2020 at 8:01 pm

    @japa21:

    Also, according to Pritzker, there is new modeling out. Originally, IL was supposed to hit its peak right about now. Now pushed off to Mid-May at earliest. That is not good.

    Why is that not good?  Doesn’t that extend the lower curve, making it better for medical care to be available?  Or is the curve the same height as feared, just later?

  40. 40.

    japa21

    April 21, 2020 at 8:06 pm

    @WaterGirl: We are still on an upward curve with over 1,000 new cases and 100 death in the past 24 hours. The only good thing is we may not hit quite as high a peak as originally expected, but higher than predicted a few weeks ago.

  41. 41.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    April 21, 2020 at 8:13 pm

    Alabama Gov. Kay Ivey is a woman, so she is immune to a human barbie doll on Fox calling her a pussy for not manning it out with the virus like Kemp of Georgia. Note how the Conservative media target demographic is middle aged white men in a mid life crises.

    I think I figured out Trump’s game with the governors; we know he blew the stimulus on his donors. That fits how Trump does business; he never pays his debts, just takes a loan to pay off the other loan. So Trump hijacked the stimulus to pay off his donors that Trump had screwed, to get the money to cover this Trump was going to charge the states threw the nose for PPE gear, ventilators and test kits. That’s why Trump is so pissed off at the Governor of Maryland over the governor buying test kits from Korea.

  42. 42.

    Mike in NC

    April 21, 2020 at 8:19 pm

    Watching the slow, agonizing death of Bill Barr from the coronavirus would draw record numbers on Pay-Per-View.

  43. 43.

    debbie

    April 21, 2020 at 8:21 pm

    @Brachiator:

    It’s that there is no bottom to his awfulness that is so horrendous.

  44. 44.

    debbie

    April 21, 2020 at 8:23 pm

    @WaterGirl:

    I was paraphrasing the clip in the Pod Save America tweet up top. ?

  45. 45.

    PersistentIllusion

    April 21, 2020 at 8:24 pm

    @patrick Il: His sister is apparently next in line and she’s already been credibly accused of crimes against humanity.  Send him flowers.

  46. 46.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    April 21, 2020 at 8:27 pm

    @mrmoshpotato: Now we know where the mustard went, that’s a keeper.

  47. 47.

    A Ghost to Most

    April 21, 2020 at 8:29 pm

    @Lord Fartdaddy (Formerly, Mumphrey, Smedley Darlington Mingobat, et al.): We all do. The difference is some of us are willing to stand in their faces.

  48. 48.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    April 21, 2020 at 8:32 pm

    @debbie: What could that answer possibly mean? It puts the “non” in non-sequitur

  49. 49.

    TS (the original)

    April 21, 2020 at 8:35 pm

    Surely trump can be sued for recommending his COVID-19 cure. Barr should look that. Governors save lives, Trump takes them.

  50. 50.

    WaterGirl

    April 21, 2020 at 8:37 pm

    @japa21: You mentioned Pritzker.  Is that for Illinois?  That’s where I am.

    We already knew the peak wouldn’t be as high as predicted because of the closures, etc.  So I see why you say “that’s not good”.

    For some reason, I listen to Cuomo and have never caught Pritzker.

  51. 51.

    WaterGirl

    April 21, 2020 at 8:39 pm

    @debbie: Sorry, I looked at Trump’s ugly mug and thought “nah, I can’t watch that or listen to that today.”

  52. 52.

    mrmoshpotato

    April 21, 2020 at 8:44 pm

    @?BillinGlendaleCA: Hehe, thanks.

  53. 53.

    Duane

    April 21, 2020 at 8:46 pm

    @Jeffro: If enough Republican Senators told him there’s no choice except resign, history would call them heroes. They could save this country from anymore of his deadly  blunders. It could even save their wretched party. They don’t have the decency to do that, even now. They are a death cult.

  54. 54.

    mrmoshpotato

    April 21, 2020 at 8:53 pm

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: What’s to be expected from a needy, narcissistic shitstain like Dump?

  55. 55.

    mrmoshpotato

    April 21, 2020 at 8:55 pm

    @WaterGirl: 2:30ish daily.  ABC7Chicago’s YouTube page streams and archives them.

  56. 56.

    Bex

    April 21, 2020 at 8:59 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Don’t think Fauci was there.  Birx wore one of her eight hundred Hermes scarves.

  57. 57.

    WaterGirl

    April 21, 2020 at 9:03 pm

    @mrmoshpotato: Are they worth watching?

  58. 58.

    RedDirtGirl

    April 21, 2020 at 9:06 pm

    …………….just, …wow.

  59. 59.

    mrmoshpotato

    April 21, 2020 at 9:11 pm

    @WaterGirl: No, he bloviates like an orange assclown about how he’s tremendous bigly at everything.

    Oh, you meant Pritzker’s briefings.

    Yes!

  60. 60.

    WaterGirl

    April 21, 2020 at 9:43 pm

    @mrmoshpotato: I will try to remember tomorrow!  For our guy, not the dumpster.  I watched exactly ONE of his.  ugh.

    I watched every handshake, all those people huddled together, big CEO after big CEO putting their hands on the podium in that “manly’ way, in exactly the same place that all the other manly men had put their hands.  The awful woman (can’t recall her name) who nods like a little doll as Trump is watching, and she doesn’t correct anything… I could barely watch.  That was enough for me.

  61. 61.

    HumboldtBlue

    April 21, 2020 at 9:48 pm

    I just spent 30 minutes in the sun on the stoop talking with my neighbor (bartender, server, survivor, our cats met, Salad and Dickens but we all maintained 20 feet or so of space due to the convenient layout of the front yard and despite the proud march of two cocky pigeons who strutted by completely unmussed as two cats started to hunch down and do the booty-shake-prepared-to-sneak-attack-twerk) and it’s getting harder and harder to suffer the ignominy of being a “basic” but suddenly “essential” employee.

    “I hope he remembers, I hope he fucking realizes who the four people are that kept his business open for the past five weeks. I hope we get something.”

    That led me to launch into a tedious rant about the dearth of influence from labor for labor and the exploitation of the working man/woman and by the time the sun hit the rooftop across the street and the shadows suddenly spread meant a sweatshirt and blanket were needed and back inside everyone went.

    I bet Jessie Eden would have given me a kiss.

  62. 62.

    Jinchi

    April 21, 2020 at 10:27 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: I wonder who told him Normals love their children, and think everyone should

    He sounds like he’s getting ready to blame Don Jr. if his properties go bankrupt.

  63. 63.

    SFAW

    April 21, 2020 at 10:27 pm

    Reason(s) Number [take your pick] for why [lately] I often refer to him as the “Murderer-in-Chief.” Stealing PPE from various states, pushing hydroxychloroquine, tongue-bathing morons/liars like Kemp — all part of his repertoire.

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