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Tuesday Morning Open Thread: 98 Days & Counting

by Anne Laurie|  July 28, 20207:23 am| 136 Comments

This post is in: Biden For President, C.R.E.A.M., GOP Death Cult, Open Threads, Proud to Be A Democrat, Show Us on the Doll Where the Invisible Hand Touched You

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VP Joe Biden and Jill Biden in the Rotunda to pay respects to Rep. Lewis pic.twitter.com/wihKxqI6Qr

— Kristin Wilson (@kristin__wilson) July 27, 2020

The conventional wisdom was that mass protests among black people would cause white America to flock to Trump, but Biden's lead has doubled. https://t.co/2NHCjbs8tw

— Tentin Quarantino (@agraybee) July 27, 2020


In 100 days, we’re going to make Donald Trump a one-term president. pic.twitter.com/vTrPRrHhwm

— Joe Biden (@JoeBiden) July 26, 2020

Pelosi, after she & Schumer met with Meadows, Mnuchin: "We hope that we would be able to reach an agreement. We clearly do not have shared values. Having said that we just want to see if we can find some common ground to go forward. But we’re not at that place yet.”

— Erica Werner (@ericawerner) July 28, 2020

Reuters has a comparison of the two competing plans, as they now stand. Democrats, as per usual, want to get enough money into the system to keep the maximum number of people financially afloat without sparking another nation-wide pandemic outbreak. Repubs want to guarantee that businesses which force employees to return won’t be held liable if those employees get sick — in fact, there seems to be language suggesting those businesses will be able to sue employees who ‘willfully’ spread their germs around rather than stay home and starve, as Mammon intended. Schools must be forced to open, because without the free day care, too many employees won’t show up for their shifts… and if the teachers unions try to resist, well, breaking the teachers unions is a long-held GOP goal. Also, there must be tax breaks for Repub donors, because it’s another item of GOP dogma that no legislation is complete without at least a token tax cut for the top .0001%…

Mitch McConnell announces Senate GOP bill will be called "HEALS" Act. Says that's:

Health
Economic
Assistance
Liability Protection &
Schools

— Jeff Stein (@JStein_WaPo) July 27, 2020

cutting the income of tens of millions of americans by 2/3 while waiting for the states to implement a new system that will take months or years to pull together and assuming democrats will just lie down is exactly the kind brilliant strategy i was expecting from the GOP. pic.twitter.com/S9O1TcUe4r

— golikehellmachine (@golikehellmachi) July 27, 2020

The Republican Party.

$1000 “business” dinner at Trump golf club? Fully deductible!

$1000 in unemployment benefits per month? Too generous!

— Bill Kristol (@BillKristol) July 27, 2020

Wild to consider that one of our two major political parties considers "allow mass death or give poor people money" to be some sort of unresolvable trolley problem.

— Michael Hobbes (@RottenInDenmark) July 26, 2020

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  1. 1.

    debbie

    July 28, 2020 at 7:32 am

    cutting the income of tens of millions of americans by 2/3 while waiting for the states to implement a new system that will take months or years to pull together and assuming democrats will just lie down is exactly the kind brilliant strategy i was expecting from the GOP.

    Don’t leave out letting the eviction moratorium end and budgeting for a new FBI building.?

    It’s almost like they want to lose.

  2. 2.

    KayInMD (formerly Kay (not the front-pager))

    July 28, 2020 at 7:38 am

    The latest Trump/Republican mantra is that absentee ballots =Good, mail-in ballots=Bad. I guess they figured out that they needed to find a way for Republicans to vote without dying…

    Since they’re essentially the same, it’s time for Democrats to re-brand mail-in ballots to absentee ballots. Republicans will either have to accept Democratic absentee votes or reject Republican ones. Either way it will put them in a bind and amuse me. (yes, yes, I know they have no problem being inconsistent, but the more flagrant they are, and the more glitchy they look, the more it hurts them)

  3. 3.

    Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes

    July 28, 2020 at 7:38 am

    This morning’s Lincoln Project ad is…..something.

    twitter.com/ProjectLincoln/status/1288066414763540480?s=20

  4. 4.

    zzyzx

    July 28, 2020 at 7:43 am

    Yeah I’m embedding my own tweet, but as a resident of the Pacific Northwest, this pisses me off!

    Remember, it was just a few months ago when conservatives literally brought in guns into a state capitol because they didn’t like a law and that was fine but now umbrellas and plywood shields and helmets are contraband. t.co/RzvMPN5Mfe— David Steinberg (@zzyzx) July 28, 2020

  5. 5.

    Mary G

    July 28, 2020 at 7:47 am

    I am beginning to believe that they know they’re going to get slammed in November and have just decided to be the assholes they are and hurt the poors, which includes most of the middle class, as much as they can on their way out. They’re counting on running the Tea Party scam again. Knowing how many stupid and/or racist American voters there are, they’ll probably get away with it.

  6. 6.

    Amir Khalid

    July 28, 2020 at 7:48 am

    Former Prime Minister Najib Abdul Razak, convicted this morning in the High Court on seven counts relating to the misappropriation of RM42 million (US$10 million) from 1MDB subsidiary SRC International, was sentenced in the afternoon to 12 years jail and a RM210 million fine. He’ll be in jail now. His lawyers will be filing for a stay on the sentence first thing romorrow pending appeal.

  7. 7.

    Baud

    July 28, 2020 at 7:48 am

    @Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: 

    I need something to vote for.

  8. 8.

    Baud

    July 28, 2020 at 7:48 am

    @Amir Khalid: You give us hope, Amir.

  9. 9.

    Ken

    July 28, 2020 at 7:49 am

    @Baud: Vote for Biden if you want to live.

  10. 10.

    Brachiator

    July 28, 2020 at 7:51 am

    The UK Guardian recently ran a fantasy story about what might happen if Trump loses the election but refuses to leave office. I would like to see the media consider a new fantasy narrative:

    Trump loses the election and then Trump and Pence immediately resign, letting the Democrats take over responsibility for dealing with the pandemic.

    The Trump administration is inept and corrupt. We may not be able to wait until January to start a new approach.

  11. 11.

    debbie

    July 28, 2020 at 7:52 am

    @Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes:

    I like this. It is Trump’s Virus.

  12. 12.

    KayInMD (formerly Kay (not the front-pager))

    July 28, 2020 at 7:52 am

    @Baud: I’m voting for putting a bunch of a$$hole Repubs in jail. YMMV.

  13. 13.

    blackcatsrule

    July 28, 2020 at 7:55 am

    I wanted to thank everyone who sent our cat Buddy good thoughts on Friday. I know he felt them because he actually ate on his own on Friday afternoon for the first time in two days. He spent Saturday morning outside in the sun, and had a tuna lunch. Catdad was holding him while our wonderful vet helped him to peacefully pass just after noon.

    Aleta and Martin, I am especially thinking of you both.

  14. 14.

    Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes

    July 28, 2020 at 7:57 am

    @Baud:

    “Don’t you dare try to guilt me into voting for your neoliberal corporate shill by talking about the Supreme Court. My vote must be earned!”

  15. 15.

    Brachiator

    July 28, 2020 at 7:59 am

    @Amir Khalid:

    Former Prime Minister Najib Abdul Razak, convicted this morning in the High Court on seven counts relating to the misappropriation of RM42 million (US$10 million) from 1MDB subsidiary SRC International.

    Dumb question: were the charges and conviction legitimate? I know in Russia and elsewhere, political opponents are sometimes prosecuted for serious crimes to prevent their running for office.

  16. 16.

    Amir Khalid

    July 28, 2020 at 8:02 am

    @blackcatsrule:

    Good to know that Buddy had an easy passing. RIP.

  17. 17.

    BC in Illinois

    July 28, 2020 at 8:04 am

    Don’t tell me what you value,
    show me your budget,
    and I’ll tell you what you value.

    ― Joe Biden.

  18. 18.

    Mary G

    July 28, 2020 at 8:05 am

    @blackcatsrule: I’m sorry I missed this Friday and hope your furbaby’s memory will be a blessing. It’s so hard.

  19. 19.

    rikyrah

    July 28, 2020 at 8:06 am

    Good Morning, Everyone ???

  20. 20.

    rikyrah

    July 28, 2020 at 8:06 am

    @Amir Khalid:

    ?????

  21. 21.

    Matt McIrvin

    July 28, 2020 at 8:07 am

    @KayInMD (formerly Kay (not the front-pager)): Since 2016, Massachusetts has actually had separate systems for absentee ballots and mail-in early voting.

    (The difference is that, until 2020, mail-in early voting accessible to all voters only existed for certain big elections, whereas absentee ballots existed for all elections but required giving a justification. And the applications were different. But this year, absentee ballots are available for everyone due to COVID-19 by state policy, and mail voting has been extended to all elections by emergency legislation, so the two systems are functionally completely identical, but they both still exist. I’m hoping they just merge permanently.)

  22. 22.

    rikyrah

    July 28, 2020 at 8:07 am

    @Ken:

    Should put it on T-shirts and bumper stickers

  23. 23.

    rikyrah

    July 28, 2020 at 8:08 am

    @blackcatsrule:

    ????

  24. 24.

    blackcatsrule

    July 28, 2020 at 8:09 am

    @Amir Khalid: Thank you.  Kisses to Bianca.

  25. 25.

    blackcatsrule

    July 28, 2020 at 8:11 am

    @Mary G: This one was especially hard.  We only had him for a year, his previous owner dropped him at a shelter at the age of 13, so we hoped to give him love for a lot longer.

  26. 26.

    Ken

    July 28, 2020 at 8:11 am

    @debbie: It is Trump’s Virus.

    Though he seems curiously resistant to it. Probably because he never spends any time with people who have it, like his National Security Advisor, or his family (well, his son’s fiancee), or the MAGAs who attend his rallies, or…

  27. 27.

    blackcatsrule

    July 28, 2020 at 8:11 am

    @rikyrah: Thank you ❤

  28. 28.

    satby

    July 28, 2020 at 8:11 am

    @zzyzx: and I shared that because that pisses me off too.

  29. 29.

    WereBear

    July 28, 2020 at 8:12 am

    @blackcatsrule: I’m sure it seemed wonderfully long, to him :)

  30. 30.

    Betty Cracker

    July 28, 2020 at 8:12 am

    That 11-second ad from the Biden campaign just below the fold seems devastatingly effective. I’m not the target audience, obviously, but it’s impressive that the ad makers managed to cram in imagery that evokes all the awfulness of this time into such a short snippet. No words of explanation are necessary. I’m sure the challenge was selecting those images from all the horrible scenes available.

  31. 31.

    rikyrah

    July 28, 2020 at 8:16 am

    That Lincoln Project ad is an example of why I believe the 65+ poll numbers for Biden. These Seniors KNOW HOW THEIR LIVES ARE NOW. No matter what the Fox News bubble is telling them. They know WHY they can’t see their families ??

    Great ad. My kid hasn't been able to see his grandmother in months.Americans sacrificed a lot staying home to buy the government time to set up a safe reopening strategy.And Trump just squandered it.— awwHALEnaww (@awwHALEnaww) July 28, 2020

  32. 32.

    Baud

    July 28, 2020 at 8:16 am

    @rikyrah: Good morning.

  33. 33.

    Ken

    July 28, 2020 at 8:17 am

    @Betty Cracker: Also note how many of the images are from photo-ops set up by Trump or the White House. It’s that quip people keep using – “The Biden campaign really should declare this as an in-kind donation”

  34. 34.

    Amir Khalid

    July 28, 2020 at 8:17 am

    @Brachiator:

    Oh, they were plenty legit. In fact, there will be other charges. 1MDB was a fucking huge scandal, maybe the biggest of ita kind in the world,involving some US$4 billion in money and assets stolen from the people of Malaysia. It all happened when Najib was PM. Even the FBI got involved, because some of the money wound up paying for the fanciest condos in NYC and a Martin Scorsese movie.

    Goldman Sachs just paid the Malaysian Government a US$396 million settlement ovet its involvement in the 1MDB thing. I particularly look forward to the charges over the RM1 billion+ in cash and jewellery that the cops found when they raided Najib’s house.

  35. 35.

    satby

    July 28, 2020 at 8:17 am

    @blackcatsrule: What WereBear says. He was loved and spoiled after losing his home, and that’s all they want in life. Peace to you.

  36. 36.

    mad citizen

    July 28, 2020 at 8:19 am

    @Brachiator: I really like this idea as the “What if Trump doesn’t leave?” stories are SO lazy and ascribe some kind of Hitler power to him that he obviously does not have.  I might tweak it a little, and say that when they lose, trump and pence SHOULD leave office as immediately as practicable so that the adults can start doing all the jobs necessary to run the executive branch of the former world’s greatest country.

  37. 37.

    Wanderer

    July 28, 2020 at 8:19 am

    Mitch misspelled it… Heels Act was what they meant.

  38. 38.

    narya

    July 28, 2020 at 8:22 am

    Chris Hayes had a piece last night on how they are intentionally screwing up the post office–destroying it–which is yet another step toward evil. Effectively preventing people from voting, while they turn goons on peaceful citizens. I have been overwhelmed lately.

  39. 39.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    July 28, 2020 at 8:23 am

    @Matt McIrvin: In Iowa, early voting was in-person absentee voting. Where I lived, I went to the courthouse, filled out an absentee ballot, put it in the various envelopes, and turned it in.

  40. 40.

    Kathleen

    July 28, 2020 at 8:24 am

    @Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: Have you seen McConnell ads in which the actors claim Pelosi is responsible for them losing health care? Amy of course is aligned with Nancy Pelosi.

  41. 41.

    satby

    July 28, 2020 at 8:25 am

    @rikyrah: Good morning, and I agree. That ad speaks to all of us because we know it could be different.

    Even the covidiots in denial are restricted from having events / seeing people in their lives who take things seriously. And that’s part of the acting out and unreasonable rage they display in public, because what they want to believe keeps running into reality. And they hate that. They won’t vote for Biden of course, but this ad twists the knife in them too.

  42. 42.

    rikyrah

    July 28, 2020 at 8:25 am

    Trump refusing to go to the Capitol to pay his respects to John Lewis isn’t a surprise. What is striking is Trump’s failure to offer even a sentence of condolence to the family or of appreciation for Lewis’s life. There really is a hole in Trump’s soul.pic.twitter.com/z0eaGdvNBV— Bill Kristol (@BillKristol) July 27, 2020

  43. 43.

    satby

    July 28, 2020 at 8:26 am

    @narya:  I have been overwhelmed lately.

    Right there with you.

  44. 44.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    July 28, 2020 at 8:26 am

    @narya: I’ve been overwhelmed by the evil too. It’s so out in the open, like daring us to do anything. Which I suppose is why they have armed troops there.

    On another topic, twitter apparently removed three of Trump’s tweets for the first time. They were pushing hydroxychloroquine.

  45. 45.

    rikyrah

    July 28, 2020 at 8:28 am

    So Trump is trying to steal $1.75 BILLION of taxpayer money, from people who are suffering economically & physically from Covidso a competing hotel won’t be built across the street.See draft impeachment Art V & VI in my book t.co/Gj8E9CaivI t.co/3nGoJRMZZz— Norm Eisen (@NormEisen) July 28, 2020

  46. 46.

    satby

    July 28, 2020 at 8:28 am

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: Good. His response to that should be lit!

  47. 47.

    Kay

    July 28, 2020 at 8:29 am

    @narya:

    People have noticed how the mail is so slow. I know it’s malicious but it could also be used under the “general incompetence” category for Trump hires and their work, under the old “malice or incompetence?” scheme we use for GOP administrations.

    IMO, “centrists” are more comfortable with “incompetence” because then they don’t have to attribute intent and they are sometime-Republican voters so won’t accept that it’s intentional.

  48. 48.

    blackcatsrule

    July 28, 2020 at 8:31 am

    @WereBear: Thank you.  He did get more loving than usual the past three months since I was furloughed due to the pandemic.

  49. 49.

    blackcatsrule

    July 28, 2020 at 8:32 am

    @satby: Thank you ?

  50. 50.

    rikyrah

    July 28, 2020 at 8:37 am

    150K people are dead and millions are out of work and Trump's priority for the COVID relief bill is $2 BILLION for a new FBI HQ in downtown DC because Trump doesn't want the FBI to move to the suburbs and have the old site redeveloped w/a hotel that will compete with hisNo joke— Judd Legum (@JuddLegum) July 28, 2020

  51. 51.

    AJ

    July 28, 2020 at 8:37 am

    @Brachiator: Yes, Russia and elsewhere, like Alabama in re Don Siegelman

  52. 52.

    lowtechcyclist

    July 28, 2020 at 8:38 am

    Time for Speaker Pelosi to play hardball.  Hold up the Homeland Security and DOJ appropriations bills, send them back to committee.

    Tell Trump and Mitch that she’s going to cut the hell out of CBP, ICE, and any other agencies that apparently have a metric ton of excess goons to send to Portland, Chicago, etc. that aren’t needed for whatever their supposed normal responsibilities are.

    Tell them that if the Senate passes the HEROES Act and Trump signs it, they’ll at least get that sort of funding in FY21.  If not, those agencies can look forward to a shutdown on October 1.

    [Maybe this exact scenario isn’t the optimal one, but right now, holding up DHS’ appropriations bill, at a minimum, seems like a gimme. Let’s see something in the way of hardball, Madame Speaker!  You have leverage right now – use it!]

  53. 53.

    Baud

    July 28, 2020 at 8:38 am

    @Dorothy A. Winsor:

    like daring us to do anything

    That is the essence of the GOP.  They are not the majority, but they dare the majority to stand up to them, and too often the majority does not, whether out of fear, apathy, or distraction. One thing the powerful know how to is maximize their leverage.

  54. 54.

    Betty Cracker

    July 28, 2020 at 8:39 am

    @rikyrah: Also the tone-deaf Rose Garden renovation announcement by the Third Lady, close on the heels of her oversight of the tennis pavilion project. Why not just load her up on a flatbed truck with a giant cake to serve to people in food pantry lines? It’s just mind-boggling.

  55. 55.

    Baud

    July 28, 2020 at 8:46 am

    @Betty Cracker:

    I missed the news about the tennis project.  Is Melania wearing her “I don’t care, do you?” shirt 24/7 these days?

  56. 56.

    WereBear

    July 28, 2020 at 8:46 am

    I think we’re at a point where the Republicans don’t dare do anything that actually helps; because that would show it was possible.

    And brings up the question of what they should have done.

    Since they are going to bail on Trump moving forward, they will be as bad as they can, with his full support. Which is what they want to do, anyway.

  57. 57.

    Baud

    July 28, 2020 at 8:49 am

    @WereBear: I agree.  I said the other day that we need to start inoculating Biden because they’ll be doing him like they did Obama as soon as he takes office, if not before.  Can’t let people forget that entire federal and many state Republican parties are responsible for how bad things are.

  58. 58.

    lowtechcyclist

    July 28, 2020 at 8:52 am

    Wild to consider that one of our two major political parties considers “allow mass death or give poor people money” to be some sort of unresolvable trolley problem.

    Maybe he meant “prevent mass death or….”  Seems the GOP’s all in with the “allow mass death” choice.

  59. 59.

    Danielx

    July 28, 2020 at 9:00 am

    @Mary G:

    don’t forget the looting on the way out the door part.

  60. 60.

    SFAW

    July 28, 2020 at 9:02 am

    @Baud:

    I need something to vote for.

    Not sure I can do that without mentioning Trump or the Supreme Court.

  61. 61.

    Kay

    July 28, 2020 at 9:07 am

    @Betty Cracker:

    I was glad she’s digging up the rose garden and recreating it in her own image, because it seems to me to be kind of a rush job. She has to get it in before they leave.

  62. 62.

    SFAW

    July 28, 2020 at 9:08 am

    @rikyrah:

    Should put it on T-shirts and bumper stickers

    Good idea. For the T-shirts, put Biden in the Ahnold-stretching-out-his-hand pose.

  63. 63.

    SFAW

    July 28, 2020 at 9:11 am

    @Kay:

    She has to get it in before they leave.

    I can’t tell if you’re being funny/ironic/snarky. I figure she’ll do as good a job as her fails-at-everything-except-going-bankrupt husband, and the demo will get done, but none of the construction (once her treasonous husband stiffs the demo contractors).

  64. 64.

    MomSense

    July 28, 2020 at 9:12 am

    In the fuck 2020 category, yesterday a woman was killed by a shark swimming near shore by Bailey Island. Some kayakers brought her to shore but they couldn’t save her. We kayak there all the time.  Last year we saw what we thought was a basking shark.  It was circling us.  Now I’m not so sure.
    Fuck 2020.

  65. 65.

    Kay

    July 28, 2020 at 9:14 am

    @Betty Cracker:

    Melania did a recognition of women’s suffrage where kids were supposed to submit…drawings, I think? Maybe an essay. Anyway, I just thought it was bizarre because these kinds of things have to be promoted by schools and none of them were in school. Unless they’re in the habit of checking the Trump Administration “upcoming events” site I have no idea how they were supposed to find out about it. There doesn’t seem to be an understanding of the SCALE of the United States. The logistics.

    I think she hires bad people, just like her husband.

  66. 66.

    SFAW

    July 28, 2020 at 9:18 am

    From perusing TPM a little while ago:

    A) The Liar-in-Chief apparently did not actually get an invite to throw out the first pitch at the 8/15 Yanks/Nats game; he made that announcement to take attention away from Dr. Fauci. [According to the Yanks pres, it was an open-ended kind of thing. I assume it was on the order of “We MUST do lunch sometime, dahlink.” (Apologies to June Foray.)]

    B) The Traitor Shill Bill Barr is going to tell the House Judiciary Committee that the “Russiagate” investigation was “bogus,” and that the protests in pretend-Portland are an “assault” on American government

  67. 67.

    TS (the original)

    July 28, 2020 at 9:22 am

    @Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes:

    Begosh … it is definitely …. something

  68. 68.

    OzarkHillbilly

    July 28, 2020 at 9:25 am

    @SFAW: Hey now, she has vast amounts of experience gardening in her gold gilt laden ivory tower.

  69. 69.

    SFAW

    July 28, 2020 at 9:26 am

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    Hey now, she has vast amounts of experience gardening in her gold gilt laden ivory tower.

    Well, she’s certainly familiar with shoveling (unprocessed) manure

  70. 70.

    artem1s

    July 28, 2020 at 9:33 am

    @Kathleen:

    Have you seen McConnell ads in which the actors claim Pelosi is responsible for them losing health care?

    damn that’s sad if all he has left to defend himself is the old GOP adage about the evil Nancy Pelosi.  If he’s such a great manly Senator, why did he stand by weakly by and “let” her resume the Speaker’s gavel?  Why didn’t he get off his butt and put a GOP health care bill on the floor of Senate?

  71. 71.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    July 28, 2020 at 9:36 am

    @Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: “We have suffered needlessly because Trump is a fool, a liar, and a failure.”

    Papers like the NYT are still trying to be polite, but I’m heartened to see political ads and politicians unafraid to say words like “fool”, “liar”, and “traitor”.

  72. 72.

    narya

    July 28, 2020 at 9:36 am

    @Kay: No, it’s actually intentional! Postal workers are being instructed to leave mail, aren’t being allowed to work overtime, etc., while congress can’t get funding past the republicans.

  73. 73.

    Kattails

    July 28, 2020 at 9:37 am

    Well, here’s a fun video from Vote.org with audio clips of Trump’s “talking tough” phone call to governors. argh, is the link working?

  74. 74.

    Nora

    July 28, 2020 at 9:40 am

    @SFAW:  And just to rub it in a little more, the Fauci baseball card is a massive bestseller: usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/2020/07/27/dr-anthony-fauci-topps-baseball-card-breaks-company-sales-r…

  75. 75.

    different-church-lady

    July 28, 2020 at 9:42 am

    Well, I had high hopes for this day, but now it looking unmistakeably like I’m going to have to get out of bed…

  76. 76.

    ...now I try to be amused

    July 28, 2020 at 9:43 am

    @BC in Illinois: That’s another way of saying:

    Pay no attention to what they say. Everything they say is a lie. Pay attention to what they do.

  77. 77.

    Betty Cracker

    July 28, 2020 at 9:45 am

    Remember The Pivot? Yeah, that’s over.

    Trump tweeted and retweeted lots of garbage about the miracle drug hydroxychloroquine and conspiracy theories about Dr. Fauci and the FDA last night and this morning, including a couple of videos tweeted by the chinless neck-beard son to spread the word about Deep Med’s attempt to take down Trump by withholding the miracle drug that cures COVID.

    The neck-beard son’s Twitter account was reportedly suspended today for spreading false medical info through the tweets that Trump retweeted. And then there’s this unhinged rant from the shitgibbon:

    The Fake News Media is trying to portray the Portland and Seattle “protesters” as wonderful, sweet and innocent people just out for a little stroll. Actually, they are sick and deranged Anarchists & Agitators who our great men & women of Law Enforcement easily control, but who…

    ….would destroy our American cities, and worse, if Sleepy Joe Biden, the puppet of the Left, ever won. Markets would crash and cities would burn. Our Country would suffer like never before. We will beat the Virus, soon, and go on to the Golden Age – better than ever before!

    Can we hang in there for 98 more days? I sure hope so.

  78. 78.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    July 28, 2020 at 9:46 am

    Yesterday, I was looking for something to listen to while I did a puzzle, and I put on the final episode of the Obama bros’ podcast “The Wilderness.” It’s about the Ds’ path to winning the election, but it was made late last year (I think) and it was like something from another decade. It was pre-pandemic, pre-economic crash, pre-BLM demonstrations. All those things made Trump’s incompetence, cruelty, and general BS so much more evident.

  79. 79.

    Matt McIrvin

    July 28, 2020 at 9:50 am

    @Ken: I suspect that, at least by this point in the pandemic, Trump engages in less behavior that is risky to him personally than the average person who has to go to the grocery store every couple of weeks. The whispers are that he’s actually quite preoccupied with protecting himself, has everyone around him get tested over and over and sanitize his environment, etc. He was never anywhere near the crowd at that Tulsa rally.

  80. 80.

    germy

    July 28, 2020 at 9:50 am

    In an alternate timeline where Hillary is president, there are about a dozen Senate investigations asking why 300 Americans died from COVID-19.

    — Fifty Shades of Whey (@davenewworld_2) July 26, 2020

  81. 81.

    OzarkHillbilly

    July 28, 2020 at 9:51 am

    @SFAW: See? I told ya so.

  82. 82.

    SFAW

    July 28, 2020 at 9:51 am

    @Betty Cracker:

    His twitter rants are getting more unhinged by the day.

    But I’m still on the fence as to whether I should vote for him, or the neoliberal corporate shill.

  83. 83.

    Betty Cracker

    July 28, 2020 at 9:52 am

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: So true. Have you listened to the “That’s the Ticket” shows with Dan Pfeiffer and Alyssa Mastromonaco? There are three episodes, I think, dissecting the process of choosing, vetting and announcing a VP pick. Kind of interesting.

  84. 84.

    Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes

    July 28, 2020 at 9:53 am

    @Betty Cracker:

    There are times that I really want to assume the mantle of Robespierre, warts, consequences and all.

    Max had the right idea, until it got out of hand.

  85. 85.

    Ken

    July 28, 2020 at 9:54 am

    @germy: And we know this is true because early in the epidemic, one of the Republican talking points was “we don’t want this to be another swine flu”. Well, they certainly got their wish…

  86. 86.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    July 28, 2020 at 9:54 am

    @Betty Cracker: I did listen to that. I was interested in the inside details of how VP candidates are vetted and chosen.

  87. 87.

    Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes

    July 28, 2020 at 9:54 am

    @SFAW:

    Bring on and heighten the contradictions! A glorious future awaits us in a Workers’ State!

  88. 88.

    Matt McIrvin

    July 28, 2020 at 9:55 am

    @Betty Cracker: When your parade of horribles if people elect the other guy is stuff that already just happened under you… well, I guess it worked for George W. Bush.

  89. 89.

    SFAW

    July 28, 2020 at 9:55 am

    @germy:

    In an alternate timeline where Hillary is president, there are about a dozen Senate investigations asking why 300 Americans died from COVID-19.

    I actually think the number is too low by one or two orders of magnitude: she would try to get rational plans implemented re: testing everyone (for example), but Traitor Turtle would prevent that. I’m also wondering whether the Dems would even have the House, but either way, Traitor Turtle’s obstruction would lead to significant deaths.

  90. 90.

    E.

    July 28, 2020 at 9:56 am

    I agree the “What if Trump refuses to leave” articles are lazy but I am nagged by the “What if Trump outright steals this election” option. As in, all exit polls show a devastating loss but he wins by a safe margin. Might Portland and the new White House wall etc. be him training and prepping for the protests that will surely follow?

  91. 91.

    Betty Cracker

    July 28, 2020 at 9:57 am

    @Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: Yep. Here’s a sample of the lunacy the POTUS was retweeting last night:

    This is absolutely insane pic.twitter.com/w8IDBZS0tX

    — Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) July 28, 2020

    So, the framing is there’s a miracle cure that explains why Europe is doing so much better at managing the pandemic than the U.S. is because medical professionals and Democratic operatives have teamed up to discredit the cure because Trump promoted it. I mean, this is sheer madness, but here we are.

  92. 92.

    SFAW

    July 28, 2020 at 9:57 am

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    See? I told ya so.

    Except that unprocessed horseshit (or cowshit) does not really work as a fertilizer, does it?

  93. 93.

    Matt McIrvin

    July 28, 2020 at 10:01 am

    @E.: Yeah, Trump just refusing to leave after an obvious loss is a non-problem, but Trump messing with the election itself so that it isn’t an obvious loss (if only because the election is so wracked by chaos that it’s not an obvious anything) worries me much more.

    Even if it doesn’t succeed in reelecting him, he could mount a scorched-earth retreat, just damaging the United States as much as possible on the way out, that leaves the country in even worse shape than it’s in now. For the Republicans, this would be a way of securing future election victories in 2022 and 2024, by setting the opposition up to fail; for Trump it’d be pure score-settling.

  94. 94.

    schrodingers_cat

    July 28, 2020 at 10:02 am

    @Baud: They feed on fear and intimidation. What the last 5 years have revealed is how many people that I considered friends really aren’t.

    I feel estranged from many (read most) of my family over their BJP support. I have called two countries my home  but now I am at home nowhere.

  95. 95.

    Betty Cracker

    July 28, 2020 at 10:03 am

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: I found it fascinating too. On the VP topic, some Harris boosters are saying the Politico piece where Senator Dodd is quoted (by an anonymous source!) as slamming Harris for her “lack of remorse” for going after Biden in the early primary debate is a signal that Biden will pick someone other than Harris. I don’t know, but the Harris stans seem really angry about it. IMO, it would be a dick move to release that info on background. But I don’t consider Politico a reliable narrator.

  96. 96.

    noname

    July 28, 2020 at 10:05 am

    @E.: Wanted to thank you for your comment last night about workers in your community not going back to work.  The problem is not the extra $600 a week, it is the fact that people are not paid a living wage to begin with, while having to put up with all the troubles/difficulties of a job…40 or more hours, arranging child care, transportation, difficult customers/bosses/co-workers, it’s a long list!

  97. 97.

    Viva BrisVegas

    July 28, 2020 at 10:09 am

    @Amir Khalid: Even the FBI got involved

    I seem to recall that Trump buddy Elliot Broidy tried to get the DOJ to drop their investigation into 1MDB.

    There was a cool $75 million in it for him if he could pull it off.

  98. 98.

    TS (the original)

    July 28, 2020 at 10:09 am

    @Betty Cracker:

    Sooner of later the markets are going to crash. They are being held up by the Fed with trump screaming at them to keep the DOW rising.

    Reality is markets should have crashed with the unemployment, closing down of some industries and massive lack of economic activity. The support payments to the unemployed/small business has helped keep things afloat  – McConnell knows, even if trump doesn’t, stopping those payments will slow the economy.

    McConnell will be trying to have that slowdown/crash happen just after the election so they can spend the next 2 years blaming Biden and the democrats. I so hope Biden is getting his VP & staff together because they are going to be working 24×7 to

    1. sort out the virus & its health impacts
    2. When that is done, fix the economy.

    Obama fixed the economy & his reward was to lose the House of Reps at the next election. This time around the push back on the GOP b.s. has to be continuous. It’s going to need more than 2 years to fix what trump has done (or not done).

  99. 99.

    schrodingers_cat

    July 28, 2020 at 10:10 am

    @Betty Cracker: Politico thought that Vilsack was going to be the VP in 2016.

  100. 100.

    OzarkHillbilly

    July 28, 2020 at 10:17 am

    @SFAW: Nope, burns everything right up. But she has experience at shoveling shit! She should be able to pick it up in no time.

  101. 101.

    germy

    July 28, 2020 at 10:17 am

    Beloved children's singer Raffi has shared an ode to "Portland Moms" in a new Black Lives Matter protest song: t.co/cMIXENHiJd pic.twitter.com/KhHk8qiakZ

    — Consequence of Sound (@consequence) July 27, 2020

  102. 102.

    Betty Cracker

    July 28, 2020 at 10:19 am

    @schrodingers_cat: They’re wrong a lot! According to the podcast, the VP finalists in 2016 included Warren and Booker. I think Kaine is a good senator and a wonderful human being, but I do wonder if picking Booker would have made a difference. Oh well, no point speculating about that now.

  103. 103.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    July 28, 2020 at 10:20 am

    @Betty Cracker: who knows how much Chris Dodd actually knows, but he’s one of those old bulls I wish would be sidelined, along with Ed Rendell. A year ago I would have added Carville to the list, but I’ve got to admit, he’s been making good noises lately

    The recent boomlet for Karen Bass has been interesting. She’s impressive, if pretty low-key from what I’ve seen.  But again, who knows who’s behind it, and why.

  104. 104.

    Yutsano

    July 28, 2020 at 10:20 am

    @Betty Cracker: Hmm…odds seem pretty high that Ms. Melissa there is a Russian bot. Or I’m getting cynical in my old age.

  105. 105.

    germy

    July 28, 2020 at 10:23 am

    The doctor whose video saying masks aren't necessary was reposted by Don Jr. tonight warns that Jesus will destroy Facebook if her video isn't put back up t.co/FfOtoznWYP

    — Will Sommer (@willsommer) July 28, 2020

  106. 106.

    Danielx

    July 28, 2020 at 10:24 am

    @Betty Cracker:

    Dogs and cats living together!

  107. 107.

    germy

    July 28, 2020 at 10:25 am

    A Houston doctor who praises hydroxychloroquine and says that face masks aren’t necessary to stop transmission of the highly contagious coronavirus has become a star on the right-wing internet, garnering tens of millions of views on Facebook on Monday alone. Donald Trump Jr. declared the video of Stella Immanuel a “must watch,” while Donald Trump himself retweeted the video.

    Before Trump and his supporters embrace Immanuel’s medical expertise, though, they should consider other medical claims Immanuel has made—including those about alien DNA and the physical effects of having sex with witches and demons in your dreams.

  108. 108.

    different-church-lady

    July 28, 2020 at 10:27 am

    @germy: Jesus ain’t done much for me lately, but if He follows through on this one I’ll renew my faith.

  109. 109.

    Kattails

    July 28, 2020 at 10:28 am

    @Matt McIrvin: He could mount a scorched-earth retreat? He’s already doing that.  We are either going to knuckle under and kiss his ass or he’s going to make us pay.  I linked at comment #73 to a new video,  called it “fun”– I was being sarcastic.  The video appears to be brand new, dated today, and appeared as a link underneath and in response to the latest from Project Lincoln.  You will hear Trump ranting at the governors on the call, which was from early June. At the end, a woman’s voice says this is not for press release.  Unless it’s somehow a fake, this is about as chilling as anything I’ve heard come out of his mouth.

  110. 110.

    mrmoshpotato

    July 28, 2020 at 10:32 am

    @Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: “The Republicans and non-voting, selfish shitstains COVID have robbed America of so much.  None of this had to happen.  We could’ve had a President who had experience running government programs as First Lady and Secretary of State, but Rick Wilson, etc told get to get fucked.“

    Fixed.

  111. 111.

    Kattails

    July 28, 2020 at 10:32 am

    @germy: Just read the link to Will Sommer and her actual comment.  I guess my first reaction is, if Jesus wants to take Facebook down, not sure why he’s held off this long, no loss. My second reaction is, glad someone followed up on that and, she’s barking mad. Sorry, my shocked face is in the repair shop getting a fresh coat of paint and some added rebar.

  112. 112.

    Spanky

    July 28, 2020 at 10:33 am

    @different-church-lady:  +1

  113. 113.

    germy

    July 28, 2020 at 10:33 am

    This is where they’re at now:

    I need a liberal to explain to me why Trump is morally obligated to leave the White House if he allegedly loses the election, and why we are morally obligated to treat his opponent as the winner…
    I’m being obtuse, but that’s because liberals are asses.
    — Kurt Schlichter (@KurtSchlichter) July 25, 2020

  114. 114.

    SFAW

    July 28, 2020 at 10:34 am

    @Yutsano:

    Hmm…odds seem pretty high that Ms. Melissa there is a Russian bot. Or I’m getting cynical in my old age.

    How do you say “Por que no los dos?” по-русски?

     

    [NB: The Google tells me it’s “почему не оба” but I need zhena gogolia or G & T (or some other Russian speaker) to confirm.]

  115. 115.

    germy

    July 28, 2020 at 10:35 am

    @SFAW:

    Traitor Turtle’s obstruction would lead to significant deaths.

    Yes, and they’d still blame her.

  116. 116.

    Calouste

    July 28, 2020 at 10:37 am

    @germy: I need Kurt Schlichter to explain to me why I am morally obligated not to take his money and not enter his house and live in it.

  117. 117.

    SFAW

    July 28, 2020 at 10:37 am

    From little lord Randy Paul:

    Hey
    @NYGovCuomo
    , I’d rather be accused of helping my state get back bags of their money than be remembered for having more bodybags per capita than anyplace on earth.

    Not that there was ever any doubt that he was, is, and always will be an unmitigated dick.

  118. 118.

    SFAW

    July 28, 2020 at 10:38 am

    @germy:

    Yes, and they’d still blame her.

    I know

  119. 119.

    Danielx

    July 28, 2020 at 10:39 am

    @SFAW:

    Ask Dubya, he’s the one who came up with that Turd Blossom thing.

  120. 120.

    Betty Cracker

    July 28, 2020 at 10:42 am

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: I think Dodd is a co-chair of the VP selection committee, so if he really said that, it could be sign of trouble for Harris, but who knows? He’s just one guy on a panel. Maybe it was a trial balloon from his faction.

    I hope with all my heart that Rendell doesn’t get within 100 miles of a Biden administration, but it would not surprise me if he sleazed his way on board somehow. Ugh. Carville is at least entertaining; I’ll admit I enjoy his commentary on the race.

    Karen Bass is an interesting VP prospect. It would give Trump an opening to demagogue the hell out of a nothingburger comment she made about Fidel Castro to try to hang onto Florida. But demagogues gonna demagogue.

    My gut feeling is Biden will choose Harris. It’s just going to be very hard to elevate someone who doesn’t already have a national profile in the middle of a pandemic.

  121. 121.

    Ruckus

    July 28, 2020 at 10:45 am

    @debbie:

    I agree.

    Trump’s Virus.

    Maybe the first thing that he owns lock, stock and smoking barrel. He could have made this so much better, but he had to be shitforbrains. He is only capable of fucking up. He is the king of fucking up. Everything he touches, everything he desires, every thought in his head is not worth a shit when he is done. He loses interest when the shit hits the fan, except that he put himself in a position that he can’t just file bankruptcy and walk away. He’s a cornered shitforbrains. And every day he gets sicker, he gets deeper in it, he fails worse, he knows less, is less capable.

  122. 122.

    different-church-lady

    July 28, 2020 at 10:48 am

    @germy:

    I’m being obtuse, but that’s because liberals are asses.
    — Kurt Schlichter (@KurtSchlichter) July 25, 2020

    Pronoun trouble.

  123. 123.

    SFAW

    July 28, 2020 at 10:48 am

    @Ruckus:

    Not sure I get what you’re trying to say.

  124. 124.

    different-church-lady

    July 28, 2020 at 10:49 am

    @Ruckus: I’ll give him this: nobody has ever been more successful at falling upward.

  125. 125.

    Yutsano

    July 28, 2020 at 10:50 am

    @Betty Cracker: Hate to go with this but: too old. She’s only a few years younger than Warren. I can’t see the selection committee picking someone only about a decade younger than Biden. Plus being Speaker of the California assembly is nice and all but that’s still not a lot of federal experience. She’s not a bad candidate but I think it’s going to be someone else.

  126. 126.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    July 28, 2020 at 10:52 am

    @Betty Cracker:

    y gut feeling is Biden will choose Harris. It’s just going to be very hard to elevate someone who doesn’t already have a national profile in the middle of a pandemic.

    she has the CV of a conventional VP pick (and I think has the most of that thing called “charisma”, but my radar is really off on that– who the fuck would want to have a beer with GWB?) and Biden is a conventional pol. I’ve seen gossip that Jill Biden is still pissed about the bussing moment, OTOH, other gossip says she had a genuine friendship with Beau and Beau seems to be a cult-figure to his father. So… hard to read all the entrails of gossip.

    And going too far into speculation than is healthy: A Biden-Bass ticket would be a sign that he really sees himself as a one-term care-taker and reset the 2024 Dem primary. (I know: grossly unhealthy rearrangement of carts and horses and priorities and facts. )

  127. 127.

    germy

    July 28, 2020 at 10:53 am

    @different-church-lady:  Jared?

  128. 128.

    Baud

    July 28, 2020 at 10:56 am

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    I find it hard to believe that Biden’s decision on Harris will be swayed by that early tussle.  More plausible (if true) is that Dodd did not like how Harris would respond in the future to the inevitable questions from the media about busing.

  129. 129.

    mrmoshpotato

    July 28, 2020 at 10:56 am

    @germy: I need a liberal to kick Kurt in the nuts.

    Oh wait. I can be that liberal!

  130. 130.

    schrodingers_cat

    July 28, 2020 at 11:08 am

    @Betty Cracker: Roses are promoting Bass because they think she won’t run for President in 2024.

  131. 131.

    MomSense

    July 28, 2020 at 11:10 am

    @Baud:

    I’ve heard rumors that Harris prosecuted some friends of his during the foreclosure mess.  Her office was very successful in getting large settlements from mortgage companies.

  132. 132.

    different-church-lady

    July 28, 2020 at 11:42 am

    @germy: He ain’t president. Yet.

  133. 133.

    Betty Cracker

    July 28, 2020 at 11:50 am

    @schrodingers_cat: Bernie will only be 82 in 2024, so I can see where they’d pin their hopes on Biden/Bass aging out. Oh wait…

  134. 134.

    schrodingers_cat

    July 28, 2020 at 12:04 pm

    @Betty Cracker: St of Vt of special doncha know.

  135. 135.

    J R in WV

    July 28, 2020 at 3:22 pm

    @blackcatsrule:

    I wanted to thank everyone who sent our cat Buddy good thoughts on Friday. I know he felt them because he actually ate on his own on Friday afternoon for the first time in two days. He spent Saturday morning outside in the sun, and had a tuna lunch. Catdad was holding him while our wonderful vet helped him to peacefully pass just after noon.

    So sorry to hear of your loss of Buddy.

    It never gets easy, actually, as next door neighbor and I discussed yesterday. Sounds like he had a good life with you guys, which is all we can do for them.

  136. 136.

    blackcatsrule

    July 28, 2020 at 4:02 pm

    @J R in WV: Thank you.  I loved your furry friends pet posts!  Hope you are planning on more.

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