Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

After roe, women are no longer free.

Sitting here in limbo waiting for the dice to roll

It’s time for the GOP to dust off that post-2012 autopsy, completely ignore it, and light the party on fire again.

Everybody saw this coming.

I was promised a recession.

When someone says they “love freedom”, rest assured they don’t mean yours.

Too often we confuse noise with substance. too often we confuse setbacks with defeat.

You don’t get rid of your umbrella while it’s still raining.

We cannot abandon the truth and remain a free nation.

Putin must be throwing ketchup at the walls.

“woke” is the new caravan.

The revolution will be supervised.

Roe isn’t about choice, it’s about freedom.

Accountability, motherfuckers.

Happy indictment week to all who celebrate!

But frankly mr. cole, I’ll be happier when you get back to telling us to go fuck ourselves.

White supremacy is terrorism.

Optimism opens the door to great things.

I’m sure you banged some questionable people yourself.

I like you, you’re my kind of trouble.

It’s always darkest before the other shoe drops.

… riddled with inexplicable and elementary errors of law and fact

rich, arrogant assholes who equate luck with genius

Not all heroes wear capes.

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Elsewhere, the Squatter-in-Chief’s minions made (even bigger) fools of themselves in Gettysburg. But they did it without the presence of Dear Leader, because yet another Trumpkin tested COVID-positive. All that needs to be said about that event, per a legal expert:

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  1. 1.

    zhena gogolia

    The speech was fantastic.

    He’s not an orator like Obama, but he is so sincere and calming.

  2. 2.

    germy

    Elsewhere, the Squatter-in-Chief’s minions made (even bigger) fools of themselves in Gettysburg

     

    Latest from #Gettysburg:

    An 80-year-old lady says she didn’t get a receipt of her vote for Trump.

    “It seemed very odd that it didn’t print out,” her daughter agreed.

    — Heidi Przybyla (@HeidiNBC) November 25, 2020

  4. 4.

    germy

    Couple observations from the Gettysburg "fraud" conference.

    1. Many of the "experts" speaking are new recruits, first timers, angry their "suggestions" were ignored.

    2. No evidence of fraud.

    3. Dislike for a process they appear to have been observing for the very first time.

    — Heidi Przybyla (@HeidiNBC) November 25, 2020

  5. 5.

    JoyceH

    @zhena gogolia:

    he is so sincere and calming.

    Oh, ISN’T he? Tell you what, I voted for Biden, I was rooting for Biden, but I didn’t expect to become so dang FOND of him!

  7. 7.

    Kent

    Carol Moseley Braun, the first Black female senator, eyes interior secretary post
    While she would be an unconventional pick, Moseley Braun served with Joe Biden and campaigned for him this year  https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2020/11/25/carol-moseley-braun-interior-secretary/

    Please no.  We are in the midst of an existential environmental crisis.  This is not the place for patronage jobs or on-the-job training.  She has zero background in public lands management or environmental policy.   Give the job to Deb Haaland who would be the first Native American interior secetary:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deb_Haaland

  8. 8.

    germy

    History will record the shameful irony that a president who lied to avoid military service staged a bogus event on the hallowed grounds of Gettysburg in a brazen attempt to undermine the Republic for which scores of real patriots had fought & died to preserve since its founding.

    — Gov. Tom Ridge (@GovRidge) November 25, 2020

  9. 9.

    bluehill

    If boring is the result of competence, I’m all for it. Maybe as an informed citizen I should know who the postmaster general is, but I really don’t want to. Also don’t want to know who the GSA administrator is or the head of the CDC much less the secretary of state elections in Georgia.

  13. 13.

    realbtl

    Sort of OT but- Is anyone but me wondering if Biden will get the Trump President’s Daily Briefing (or whatever it’s called) with the pictures, short words and Trump on every page or the adult version?

  17. 17.

    Brachiator

    @realbtl: 

    Sort of OT but- Is anyone but me wondering if Biden will get the Trump President’s Daily Briefing (or whatever it’s called) with the pictures, short words and Trump on every page or the adult version?

    I thought that Trump’s Daily Briefing was watching Fox News in his underwear? This is available to anyone.

  19. 19.

    NotMax

    Gettysburg, 1863 – Americans die to preserve government of the people, by the people, for the people.

    Gettysburg, 2020 – Americans lie to destroy government of the people, by the people, for the people.

  20. 20.

    germy

    Harris’s reply “I can’t speak directly to that.”

    Why can’t she talk about whether she spoke with McTurtle or not?  What am I missing here?

  21. 21.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @Kent:

    Give the job to Deb Haaland who would be the first Native American interior secetary

    Hear hear, this, ditto, like, thumbs up, tip jar, QFT.

  22. 22.

    The Moar You Know

     This is not the place for patronage jobs or on-the-job training.

    @Kent: Not one post.  The nation can’t afford it.  More than at any time in my lifetime, we need nothing but competent people at the wheel.  All others are simply going to have to find something else to do.

    I know we owe an awful lot of people for getting Trump out of office, but we cannot pay those debts like this.

  23. 23.

    NotMax

    @germy

    She’s still a member of the Senate. Releasing details of what was almost surely an off the record conversation between senators is situationally a minefield.

  25. 25.

    Chetan Murthy

    Boring indeed!  #46 gave interviews in the recent days, and a speech today, and …. I FELT NO NEED to find excerpts, or read about ’em.  B/c I know he’ll do a competent job!  I felt no need to learn about the details of his appointments, b/c I know he’ll pick competent people.  I might disagree with some of them, but they’ll be *competent*.

    No Drama.  No Drama.  Oh god, I have so longed-for no drama.

  27. 27.

    Brachiator

    @The Moar You Know:

    This is not the place for patronage jobs or on-the-job training.

    @Kent: Not one post.  The nation can’t afford it.  More than at any time in my lifetime, we need nothing but competent people at the wheel.  All others are simply going to have to find something else to do.

    I totally agree. It’s funny how some politicians think that an election means business as usual for their side, and come looking for rewards and favors.

    I guess it’s an inevitable part of politics and Biden will need to keep some pols happy.  But I hope he can be judicious about it and keep it to a minimum.

  28. 28.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @realbtl:

    Honestly? I hope he gets both. The full version with big words and shit, because Joe’s a grownup, and the one-pager with pictures because laugh and point.

  29. 29.

    NotMax

    @SiubhanDuinne

    While I wouldn’t for a minute put it past the White House to whip up a phony version each day for delivery to Biden, am also confident they are so functionally inept that such a ploy would quickly be discovered.

  30. 30.

    zhena gogolia

    @Chetan Murthy:

    I understand what you’re saying, but I urge you to watch the entire 45-minute presentation of the natsec team yesterday, as well as today’s speech. They are truly calming and inspiring.

  31. 31.

    trollhattan

    @Kent:

    Interior needs to go to a Westerner or failing that, somebody deeply immersed in natural resources management and Western politics.

    Interior has been run by the head lobbyist for the nation’s largest and richest irrigation district, who rely 100% on federal water deliveries and overdraft of groundwater. You can guess whose bidding he has been doing since taking office (e.g., Shasta Dam height increase project).

    They’re also be fending off the Bundy clan, so there’s that.

  33. 33.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @NotMax:

    I’m assuming that Biden’s PDB will come directly from the IC, not filtered through the WH.

    Biden, I’m sure, will (as he must) take the security briefings with dead seriousness; yet once he’s received and absorbed the daily information, I can easily see him sharing a chuckle with the briefers over the Little Golden Books edition.

  35. 35.

    cain

    @trollhattan: Interior needs to go to a Westerner or failing that, somebody deeply immersed in natural resources management and Western politics.

    Give it to a person with a native indian ancestry. No one will care more about the land than them.

  37. 37.

    SiubhanDuinne

    O/T. Huh. Have you ever removed a frozen prepared dinner from the freezer (meat-lover’s lasagna in this instance) because you weren’t interested in fussing tonight, stuck it on a baking tray in the oven, set the timer for the recommended 50 minutes of cook time, and when (and only when) the timer dinged, realised that you had neglected to turn the oven on?

    I have. 

  38. 38.

    Chris Johnson

    hehe! Lincoln Project just posted a Thankgiving ad to their youtube channel.

    Lots of good, moving, rather typical political-ad stuff. And then, smack in the middle of it all: line of BLM activists behind a big banner. And their caption, ‘grassroots activists’.

    They turned comments off. I love it. Gauntlet, thrown. The Trumpists have pissed them off SO much that now they are Republicans (or former republicans) outright supporting and running cover for BLM. In the face of the WHOLE Trumpist movement actively demonizing BLM as hard as humanly possible.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyOlj5NoJbk

    All I can say is right on. :)

  41. 41.

    scav

    @cain: That’s just swapping stereotypes and appointing iconically.  I want a swot, someone that knows all the levers and byways for this post, same as all the other posts.

  42. 42.

    TS (the original)

    @AnotherBruce:

    And I’d like to see the media ask Pence & McConnell if THEY have spoken to the VP-elect. They should have been in touch to congratulate her on becoming the VP.

  44. 44.

    mali muso

    I am LOVING all of this boring competence. And the correlated fact that for the first time in longer than I can remember (4 years?) I am sleeping through the night without chronic anxiety and insomnia.

  45. 45.

    PsiFighter37

    For anyone interested in the remaining House races uncalled – it seems like at this moment, the incumbent Democrat Anthony Brindisi is leading in his rematch against former Rep. Claudia Tenney by 12-13(!) votes, in a district that Trump carried by ~15 points. In IA-02, it seems like the Democrat there (in a swing open seat) is up by 3(!!!) votes. Talk about nailbiters!

  48. 48.

    mrmoshpotato

    @SiubhanDuinne: Hehehe.  We were visiting my aunt and uncle down in Florida around Christmas in the before times, and my aunt put a tray of lasagna in wrong oven.  (They have a couple side-by-side in-wall electric ovens.)

    The main course was a bit delayed that night.

  51. 51.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @Kent: I suspect that, as with Rahm Emmanuel, the source for that rumor is the only person who thinks that might happen. Obama is pretty dismissive of CMB in his memoir.

  52. 52.

    JMG

    @mrmoshpotato: My Mom did that with a pork roast on Christmas Eve thirty years ago which we did not discover until we were back from church. Her total humiliation was worse to experience than the dinner. We just sliced the undone roast and cooked the slices, but my mom was inconsolable.

  54. 54.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @Chris Johnson:

    Lovely. And seeing Col. Alexander Vindman under the “patriots” rubric just tore me up. I know Adam has said that there’s no obvious nor appropriate role for Vindman in a Biden administration, but I really do hope there’s some slot that’s right for him.

  55. 55.

    J R in WV

    I have a rack of pork loin ribs in the oven right now, have been baking for about two hours. First 90 minutes wrapped in foil, two bastes with BBQ sauce half an hour apart. Roasted tiny potatoes, cole slaw.

    Baked a lemon pound cake with fresh raspberries in earlier this afternoon. Only thing we’re doing for Thanksgiving, I’m cooking more and fancier for the long weekend.

    Tomorrow a small Turkey breast, stuffing, green beans, masked potatoes, gravy. Eventually I have a small apple smoked ham to cook. Sparkling white French wine, also too. Otherwise, just wife and I at home.

    Drinking, watching the news, eating well.

    Petting the dogs and cats.

    Loving most everyone on Balloon Juice, also too.

    Everyone, take care!!

  56. 56.

    Another Scott

    @SiubhanDuinne:  Yes, showing him there was well done.

    He’s only 45. He’s got a lot of time and opportunity for contributions ahead of him.

    Lawfare (from 11/13/2020):

    The Pritzker Military Foundation today announced the appointment of Alexander Vindman as its first Pritzker Military Fellow, based at Lawfare. The retired Army lieutenant colonel and former member of the National Security Council staff joins the Lawfare team for a two-year fellowship, during which he will write a book, complete a dissertation and do a variety of other public speaking, teaching and writing.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  57. 57.

    Roger Moore

    @NotMax: 

    Gettysburg, 1863 – Americans die to preserve government of the people, by the people, for the people.

    It is worth pointing out that the only reason Americans were dying at Gettysburg was because other Americans were fighting against government of the people, by the people, and for the people. Trump is just carrying on an old and dishonorable tradition.

  58. 58.

    TS (the original)

    @AnotherBruce:   I was assuming that as well – but I think Kamala is going above & beyond if she allows him to speak off the record – then again, she may well see an advantage in same.

  60. 60.

    J R in WV

    @Another Scott:

    Great news about LT Col Vindeman.

    Watched his testimony with great interest,  he seemed like a great intellect, loyal to the nation he swore an oath to, as opposed to the malignant people who wound up in charge of the nation, briefly.

    How can people forget their oath, to the Constitution, not to any person? I was avoiding the draft when I swore my oath, and I’ve worked to keep honest to that oath for 50 years now, almost.

    Not so for Trumpians, not at all. Didn’t listen to what they were saying, did they!

  62. 62.

    Wapiti

    @cain: I agree that a Native American would be a good choice as to the stewardship of the lands.

    Even more important, the Bureau of Indian Affairs falls under the Interior Department.

  63. 63.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @Another Scott:

    I don’t believe I knew he was so young. He has decades of public service ahead of him, if the PTB recognise his expertise, willingness, and availability. Not to mention the PR value of having him in a public-facing job.

  68. 68.

    Doug R

    @germy: I’m guessing since Harris is a Senator, she speaks to Mitch fairly frequently. She’s not giving up the state of negotiations.

  69. 69.

    Dan B

    @Wapiti: BIA has been a rats nest for decades.  My best friend’s father wound up at BIA and hid in the basement legal library to get away from the people who spent their days tormenting native people.  He found some treaties that got turned into sovereignty.   Lots of Indian guys are named after him – they got the name wrong but he didn’t care.

  71. 71.

    Miss Bianca

    @germy: How do her constituents feel about it?

    I know people talk about not poaching Democratic Senators, but I’m not sure we should be poaching Dem Representatives either, even from safe districts. : (

  74. 74.

    NotMax

    Cranberry relish prepared, cooling before going into fridge to gel overnight. Trying something a wee bit different this year, 2/3 sugar and 1/3 honey rather than all sugar. Costco earlier in the month had a 2 lb. bag of cranberries, used ’em all.

    Mandatory taste test of the Grand Marnier before adding to the cranberry dish.

  78. 78.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @Miss Bianca:
    Nope, just came to terms with the fact that I’d be hungry for another hour, preheated the oven as instructed, and actually just finished eating a couple of minutes ago.

    Have terrible hiccups, though, which I haven’t had in ages. Hope I can get rid of them soon.
    Yes, I’ll save you all the effort, I know all the hiccup remedies — the ones that work, and the ones that don’t. Thanks anyway.

  85. 85.

    JMG

    TCM is showing a Sean Connery marathon now. On at this moment is Thunderball, which is not near the best of the Connery Bonds, but as a period piece of the 1960s can hardly be equaled. His Bond is next door to a rapist, but of course it works for him. Some good Blofeld scenes though. Also the cars are amazing. As a child of the ’60s, the two things that were better than now were the music and the cars.
    PS: I know automobiles today are incredibly more advanced than back then, I mean ’60s cars were designed to be HOT. And they were.

  88. 88.

    mad citizen

    @SiubhanDuinne: I only knew Tom Papa from that Wedding Referee show he did with Seinfeld, but got to watching a few of those Live From Here monologues after I was on youtube watching some of the music from that show–I really liked them.  I should go back and watch more of Papa’s stuff.  A shame that radio show was cancelled–just this spring/summer

     

    Re: The pardon, I imagine someone on twitter did this one (I was too lazy to tweet it), but mine is “Of course there is no pardon for someone guilty of being a TREMENDOUS ASSHOLE”.

  92. 92.

    raven

    @WaterGirl:

    Pennsylvania has already certified Joe Biden’s victory in the state, declaring the president-elect the winner of the commonwealth’s 20 electoral votes. But some Republicans thought it’d be a good idea to respond to these developments in an unusually foolish way.
    GOP state senators in Pennsylvania announced plans for a “hearing” on the completed presidential election, though it wouldn’t be an actual legislative session or sanctioned legislative event. Rather, a bunch of Republican state legislators decided to rent a ballroom at a hotel in Gettysburg, where they’d listen to a presentation from Rudy Giuliani and what’s left of Donald Trump’s legal team.And so, on schedule, the GOP officials — in the state where the election results have already been certified — huddled in a ballroom, mostly without masks, and heard the president’s increasingly strange attorneys make increasingly strange arguments. My personal favorite: Giuliani insisted that Donald Trump may have “actually” won in Virginia, a state Joe Biden carried easily.

  95. 95.

    J R in WV

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    This was tonight~!

    Tomorrow is a V small turkey breast, 3 lbs, mashed potatoes, dressing, green salad, green beans, gravey.

    Saturday, applewood smoked ham, other stuff. Champers for all these dinners, in honor of the election we won.

    Going to contribute to GA’s Stacy Abrams GOTV Org later tonight. In honor of taking the Senate!!!

    You can come up if you want… have you been quarantined for 14 days? Place is a wreck, dogs in charge, hair everywhere. Still recovering from roof – tree impact… But all happy anyways…

  96. 96.

    JMG

    @raven: Total envy. At one point in life, a long time ago, I had a Camaro 396 SS. Now I drive a Subaru Forester. Live in Boston, having a hot car is stupid. Winter kills them, and if it doesn’t, the other drivers do.

  97. 97.

    JAFD

    @SiubhanDuinne: Dear Ms. Duinne,

    Within the past two weeks, I have woken up in morning, sat at dining table in sweats, stared at my mug for fifteen minutes, then realized that if I wanted a cuppa tea, I really should turn on the burner under the teakettle.

    Happens to the best of us…

  98. 98.

    raven

    @JMG: Great ride! This is a pickup truck but I have a 350 with a three speed hurst floor shift and smithy’s steel pack mufflers. . .

  99. 99.

    J R in WV

    @NotMax:

    Cranberry relish prepared, cooling before going into fridge to gel overnight. Trying something a wee bit different this year, 2/3 sugar and 1/3 honey rather than all sugar. Costco earlier in the month had a 2 lb. bag of cranberries, used ’em all.

    Mandatory taste test of the Grand Marnier before adding to the cranberry dish.

    Will be fresh cranberry relish, Gran Marnier is a great idea! Usually use just fresh OJ — mix sounds great!!

    Some year will do Mama Stanberg’s Cranberry Relish with sour cream, even if it looks like thick PeptoBismol… just sounds great!

  100. 100.

    J R in WV

    @JMG:

    TCM is showing a Sean Connery marathon now.

    The best Bond movie was Dr. No, which had no gadgets, no cars, just Bond and a great looking tropical girl…  Ursula Andress — a wonderful bathing beauty!

  101. 101.

    WaterGirl

    @SiubhanDuinne: He got a 2-year paid fellowship with Lawfare!  They interviewed him on a podcast in the last week or so, and then even more recently than that, the podcast was him answering a collection of questions at some event.  The army totally screwed him, but he has landed on his feet

    edit: and of course Another Scott got there first, with better details.

  103. 103.

    CarolPW

    @J R in WV: I’ve made the PeptoBismol one a couple of times, and it looks insane. I don’t eat the stuff, just make it for the other guests, so I have no idea how it tastes. The years I have made it I also made a more standard relish just in case. The Stanberg versions have been well received, and is a snap to make.

  106. 106.

    NotMax

    @J R in WV

    Fresh cranberries, sugar, OJ, Grand Marnier (or Drambuie), crushed pineapple (drained). That’s it. Optional: chopped walnuts or other nuts of choice.

    Cranberries rinsed and drained until dry, then softened in the microwave for around 8 to 10 minutes, then mashed – except a couple of spoonfuls left unmashed to top it all (use a big bowl that cranberries take up about half of for this, cover loosely with waxed paper, weight that with a paper plate). Stir in the other ingredients while mashing after berries have been softened.

  107. 107.

    lowtechcyclist

    @mrmoshpotato:

    We were visiting my aunt and uncle down in Florida around Christmas in the before times, and my aunt put a tray of lasagna in wrong oven.  (They have a couple side-by-side in-wall electric ovens.)

    The main course was a bit delayed that night.

    @JMG:

    My Mom did that with a pork roast on Christmas Eve thirty years ago which we did not discover until we were back from church. Her total humiliation was worse to experience than the dinner. We just sliced the undone roast and cooked the slices, but my mom was inconsolable.

    OK, time for my story.  Thanksgiving 1998, we’d just moved up to southern MD from southwest VA maybe 7 weeks earlier.  We’d invited my sister, mother, and stepfather over for T-Day dinner.

    About 3 hours before company was to arrive, my wife asks me to get the turkey breast from the basement, where we had both a fridge and a chest freezer.  The turkey wasn’t in the fridge, it was still in the chest freezer – each of us had assumed the other one had moved it from freezer to fridge a couple days earlier, and neither of us had checked or asked the other.

    So 1 or 2pm Thanksgiving afternoon, with company coming in just a few hours, we’ve got a frozen turkey breast that has zero chance of being ready in time.  So I venture out, looking for a grocery that’s (a) still open, and (b) has fresh turkey breasts available, in (c) an area that I’m only starting to learn my way around.  And this is before you could look up store hours on the Web.

    Amazingly enough, I find an open grocery, and while they didn’t have any unfrozen turkey breasts, they had a butcher on duty who offered to take a fresh turkey and basically chop it up so we could cook the breast now, and save drumsticks, wings, etc. for another time.  Needless to say, I took him up on this, and dashed home to get the breast in the oven.  Meanwhile, my mother had called to say she and stepdad would be late, and was that OK? Hell yes!!  (We weren’t worried about my sister, who’s never on time for anything.)

    So amazingly enough, we had the bird on the table, cooked properly, when our guests arrived.  But we’ll always remember that afternoon.

  108. 108.

    NotMax

    @NotMax

    Reading it over, could be misread. Big bowl with waxed paper for when microwaving. Obviously remove the covering before mashing,

    ;)

  109. 109.

    trollhattan

    @raven:
    Checking the CA SoS, Biden’s count is at 11M and Trump at 6M. It was 2:1 after election day so looks like Trump clawed back a few percentage points among the uncounted ballots. Nice job, Donny.

  111. 111.

    Suzanne

    So.
    My grandmother was not a great cook. But she had one recipe in her repertoire that everyone loved. It is a top-notch exemplar of the midcentury white people Protestant church picnic genre. Due to its complete lack of nutritional value, Mr. Suzanne has named it “Once-A-Year Dip”, though a friend who couldn’t stop eating it once asked me if I laced it with crack, so we temporarily called it “Crack Dip”. We make it for Thanksgiving, and sometimes for Superb Owl Sunday. From three generations of my family to yours, happy weird Thanksgiving.

    8 oz block of cream cheese
    16 oz container of small curd cottage cheese
    1 cup of heavy cream

    Whip the cream cheese with an electric mixer until it’s creamy and a little bit fluffy. Then add the cottage cheese and keep mixing until incorporated. Then add the heavy cream, a little bit at a time, until incorporated, and then keep mixing for another minute or two. You can do this with an electric hand mixer or a big Kitchenaid stand mixer, just make sure you scrape down the sides of the bowl if you’re using a stand mixer. Then put it in the fridge to get cool for at least an hour, or make it the day before and chill overnight.

    My grandmother stopped here. I, however, *kick things up a notch* by adding pressed garlic (6-8 cloves) and freshly grated salt and pepper.

    Serve with those wavy potato chips that are designed for dip and look like the ones you had at every barbecue and church youth group event in the 80s. I like the salt and pepper ridge cut ones from Trader Joe’s.

  112. 112.

    Thor Heyerdahl

    @SiubhanDuinne: One Christmas, our family steamed broccoli in the microwave for the dinner. It wasn’t until we had eaten the meal, enjoyed dessert and had washed the dishes that we realized we had forgotten to take the broccoli out of the microwave.

  113. 113.

    David ?Booooooo!? Koch

    Glenn Greenwald links to the piece where he MADE SHIT OUT OUT OF THIN AIR to argue Flynn’s pardon was justified. https://t.co/YddYzQBWF4

    Nice to see he’s doubling down on making shit up to cuddle up to Trump and authoritarian Billy Barr. That’s who Glenn is now, I guess.
    — emptywheel (@emptywheel) November 25, 2020

    It took emptywheel 15 years to figure out Griftwald was nothing more than hot air.

  114. 114.

    Frankensteinbeck

    I have realized something that is changing my thinking about Trump and pardons.  During his main presidency, they were bizarrely few and far between, considering how useful they would have been to him.  He’s a mean shit and helping people makes no sense to him.  However, the narcissist’s reasoning changes in the lame duck session.  Now issuing pardons gives him a minor power and spite rush to compensate for the extreme depression of having been publicly defeated.  Bonus points that people around him are begging for pardons for their friends.

  116. 116.

    Suzanne

    I am getting a link showing up in my social media feed “Top Winter Fashion Trends Perfect for That Netflix and Chill Vibe”. Like, STFU. I now work four days out of five while wearing slippers and yoga pants and that’s HOW I LIKE IT.

  118. 118.

    MagdaInBlack

    @WaterGirl: I just watched a replay on Hal Sparks show. Trump called in, because he was watching it on OANN.  Jeezuz what a needy fuck he is.

    I watch it so I can (sort of) understand the the crap they’re trying to pull. Rudy is just pathetic.

  119. 119.

    Doc Sardonic

    @SiubhanDuinne: Yep…..done it. Funny story about leaving the oven on though. A long while back I was driving my late Mother to a Doctors appointment about a hour from her house. She used to make these cookies that she called Forgotten Cookies, other folks might know them as merengues. Well the recipe is simple, beat the daylights out of egg whites and sugar till soft peaks, add in chocolate chips and nuts(optional). While you are assaulting the egg whites and spooning the results on a cookie sheet, pre heat your oven to 350, place cookies in oven close the door and this is the important TURN OFF the oven and leave said cookies for several hours.  We got home four hours later Mom and I walked into the house to the strong smell of carbon, Mom ran to the oven and the next thing I hear was a rarity, “Shit…..I didn’t turn the damn oven off”

  125. 125.

    Suzanne

    @NotMax: Yeah, I can see that being good, too. I think it’s a nice base recipe that could be great with multiple variations. I made an Italian herb version once. I really liked it.

    Another version I would try would be with Cholula or Valentina and cilantro.

  130. 130.

    MagdaInBlack

    @NotMax: Holy cow! I’m going to have to start watching Keith again.

    Also was reading today about Rudy’s involvement with the police riot and David Dinkins.

    Yup, he’s always been an asshole.

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    David ?Booooooo!? Koch

    The Man Who Would Be King (1975) on TCM at 5:30 AM Eastern

    It was offered to Redford and Newman, but they turned it down, feeling the roles should go to Brits (Connery and Caine).  Alas, Newman as Peachy would have been perfect.

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    Doc Sardonic

    @Suzanne: You wound me madam….I would never deign to use that for a dish as delicate and nuanced as shit on a shingle. That dear lady requires Libby’s roast beef in can……hmph

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    catclub

    @germy: Haaland has the backing of over fifty House Democrats.

     

    with any luck this is not co-workers trying to get rid of an asshole colleague.

  135. 135.

    Suzanne

    I kind of hope Trump attempts to self-pardon so that I can be an insufferable piece of shit to the few remaining Trumpy douchebags I encounter.

  138. 138.

    Jay

    Yesterday, Trump took full credit for the 30,000 Dow Jones, but took zero credit for 260,000 Americans who died from COVID, 40 million who face eviction or 26 million who don't have enough food to eat on Thanksgiving. No, Mr. President. The stock market is not the economy.— Bernie Sanders (@BernieSanders) November 25, 2020

  141. 141.

    Lumpy

    Is it too much to hope for, that Katie Porter is named to replace Kamala Harris in the Senate?

    Yes, Katie Porter is awesome in the House, but she could be even more effective in the Senate.

  142. 142.

    Sm*t Cl*de

    @Jay:

    “If you were a Republican poll watcher you were treated like a dog,” Trump says.

    “Everyone else maltreats animals too. Why wouldn’t they?”

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    Uncle Cosmo

    @Mike in NC:  Back in my salad days (when I was a green vegetable drizzled in oil & vinegar) I thought it was Arsula Undress…you know, repurposing the original letters…

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