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You are here: Home / Healthcare / COVID-19 / COVID-19 Coronavirus Updates: Monday/Tuesday, Dec. 7-8

COVID-19 Coronavirus Updates: Monday/Tuesday, Dec. 7-8

by Anne Laurie|  December 8, 20204:58 am| 46 Comments

This post is in: COVID-19, Foreign Affairs

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EXCLUSIVE: The Trump administration invited the leading Covid-19 vaccine manufacturers to a celebratory “Vaccine Summit” on Tuesday. Neither plans to attend. https://t.co/ENYuM7twFG

— STAT (@statnews) December 7, 2020


States are submitting vaccine orders as the #coronavirus death toll grows. Hospitalizations are at an all-time high: 100,667, according to the COVID Tracking Project, while new daily cases are averaging 210,000 & deaths 1,800 p/day, https://t.co/tsYdAU1XU5 via @medical_xpress

— delthia ricks ? (@DelthiaRicks) December 7, 2020

The positive test rate nationwide now stands at 10.4%. pic.twitter.com/qRL4IlyTu0

— Patrick Chovanec (@prchovanec) December 8, 2020

When the One Great Scorer comes to tote up the final list of the Senate's biggest blockheads, Ron Johnson is going to be on the list twice. https://t.co/esvv70YDna

— Charles P. Pierce (@CharlesPPierce) December 7, 2020

We'll never know, but still have to wonder how much spread Trump, the WH, and the campaign were responsible for. And if you add all GOP events….not impossible it was a significant contributor, even before you get to others influenced by Trump et al. https://t.co/zOEdY8E0jL

— Jonathan Bernstein (@jbview) December 7, 2020

Pfizer offered the Trump administration a chance to lock in additional supplies before its vaccine was proved effective in clinical trials. But the administration, according to people familiar with the talks, never made the deal. https://t.co/g8k0ydUedn

— The New York Times (@nytimes) December 8, 2020

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Age of critically ill Covid-19 patients dropping, Hong Kong facing 103 new cases https://t.co/baqoXNJvIy

— SCMP News (@SCMPNews) December 8, 2020

Hong Kong to further restrict dining and announce new steps to curb coronavirus https://t.co/xQ2YJJeqJ9 pic.twitter.com/LV0ZWerNKs

— Reuters (@Reuters) December 8, 2020

South Korea to buy coronavirus vaccines for 44 million people https://t.co/ZuEf4w48n2 pic.twitter.com/974brhzRNO

— Reuters (@Reuters) December 8, 2020

Medics based in the capital expressed reluctance — or outright refusal — to take a vaccine that has not yet passed sufficient trials for international clinical approval, @PjotrSauer and @felix_light report https://t.co/8zFKBvsVrK

— The Moscow Times (@MoscowTimes) December 8, 2020

Across the U.K., sports stadiums, village halls, libraries, and parking lots are quickly being turned into makeshift vaccination centers. Tuesday will be the start of the biggest logistical challenge ever faced by Britain’s health service. https://t.co/dloSMnc8C4

— The New York Times (@nytimes) December 7, 2020

90-year-old Margaret Keenan is the first to receive the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine, administered by Matron May Parsons, as UK's mass vaccination programme begins https://t.co/3eBGv3RUsU pic.twitter.com/ltWAL8uDmr

— BBC Breaking News (@BBCBreaking) December 8, 2020

Germany may need tougher COVID-19 curbs before Christmas, minister says https://t.co/fnPqh5KiqF pic.twitter.com/AvPTfu2F73

— Reuters (@Reuters) December 8, 2020

Analysis: Second COVID-19 wave tests Turkey's commitment to austerity, higher rates https://t.co/0Cf19Q6mSC pic.twitter.com/8h10uXbzB3

— Reuters (@Reuters) December 8, 2020

Australia's western state removes quarantine requirements for more travellers https://t.co/hlxhofiwJd pic.twitter.com/J6TWI1uOkA

— Reuters (@Reuters) December 8, 2020

Justin Trudeau, Canada’s prime minister, said Monday that the first doses of the Pfizer coronavirus vaccine will start arriving in his country next week. But inoculations will have to wait until the national regulator approves the treatment. https://t.co/dEO6olTZ4d

— The New York Times (@nytimes) December 8, 2020

(It’s not happening before May 2021)

Covid forces Davos forum to move to Singapore https://t.co/ka5IwNsify

— BBC News (World) (@BBCWorld) December 7, 2020

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WHO is opposed to mandatory Covid vaccination. "I don't think mandates are the direction to go, especially for these vaccines," Kate O'Brien, WHO's director of immunization said Monday. It's much better to encourage vaccination w/out pressure, she said https://t.co/jLbYe5eUJe pic.twitter.com/HWgANj6dXB

— delthia ricks ? (@DelthiaRicks) December 7, 2020

Countdown to America’s first coronavirus vaccine: What to watch this critical week. If all goes as expected over the next few days, the FDA could give emergency authorization to Pfizer's mRNA vax as early as week’s end https://t.co/FugOYHhdjU

— delthia ricks ? (@DelthiaRicks) December 7, 2020

RT @JohnsHopkins: "COVID-19 vaccination will present one of the greatest logistics challenges in human history."

Q&A with @TinglongDai, @JHUCarey expert in #healthcare operations management and business analytics:https://t.co/VTlaeI4rRG

— Global Health Observ (@GlobalPHObserv) December 8, 2020

While countries struggle to find equitable ways to roll out #COVID19 #vaccines India's top generic vaccine maker plans to sell to high, private bidders. Desperately want a vaccine? Call the Serum Institute of India, and open your checkbook.https://t.co/Xj8mGLV1G6

— Laurie Garrett (@Laurie_Garrett) December 7, 2020

SARS-CoV-2 in wastewater solids can help monitor viral spread. New study in Environmental Science & Technology, identifies a method that not only detects the virus in wastewater samples but also tracks whether infection rates are trending up or down https://t.co/YtglrPwy8D

— delthia ricks ? (@DelthiaRicks) December 7, 2020

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Florida Gov. deSantis has a lot to answer for:

Former data scientist at Florida Dept of Health, who charges she was fired for refusing to manipulate C-19 data, says state police raided her home this morning. https://t.co/CxcSZXa8hl

— Jonathan Landay (@JonathanLanday) December 7, 2020

This is what happens to scientists who do their job honestly.

This is what happens to people who speak truth to power.

I tell them my husband and my two children are upstairs… and THEN one of them draws his gun.

On my children.

This is Desantis' Florida.

— Rebekah Jones (@GeoRebekah) December 7, 2020

1st #COVID19 #vaccine supplies come to #NYC on Dec15, but 55% of @FDNY say they will refuse to take it, despite their constant exposure to patients. Why?
– 1/3 have already had COVID
– Most feel MDs & RNS & elderly deserve it first
– some leary of safety.https://t.co/3ZLcHDhIM9

— Laurie Garrett (@Laurie_Garrett) December 7, 2020

"On Tuesday night, one of my co-residents did 17 emergency intubations. Upon running to respond to yet another intubation page, she was horrified to see that the patient was one of our supervising physicians."https://t.co/RYekG8Ghne

— Jeffrey Goldberg (@JeffreyGoldberg) December 6, 2020

They care about someone besides themselves? https://t.co/yOMLRLxh6Y

— Patrick Chovanec (@prchovanec) December 8, 2020

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  1. 1.

    mrmoshpotato

    December 8, 2020 at 5:14 am

    Pfizer offered the Trump administration a chance to lock in additional supplies before its vaccine was proved effective in clinical trials. But the administration, according to people familiar with the talks, never made the deal.

    The Art of The Murderous Orange A-hole

  2. 2.

    YY_Sima Qian

    December 8, 2020 at 5:14 am

    Yesterday, China reported 2 new domestic confirmed, reported by Chengdu in Sichuan Province. 1 of the case I already discussed in yesterday’s post, the other case is the Case #1’s spouse. Case #1 is in severe condition. Early this morning, the city reported 3 more confirmed cases (will be included in tomorrow’s China National Health Commission’s daily data dump). 1 is a close contact of the 1st 2 cases (their granddaughter), and the other 2 are found via 100% mass screening of all residents in the village with the 1st 2 cases reside. Case #3 is young, and has been socializing extensively in the past 14 days. 46 close contacts of the reported cases have been traced and placed under quarantine. As of 6 AM today, all 24,598 residents of the village have been swabbed, with 24,057 results obtained, 24,053 are negative (the 4 positives are Case #s 2 – 5). 468 environmental samples have been collected, 11 positive (all at the home of Case #s 1 & 2). With positive cases emerging from mass screening, rather than traced contacts, the authorities will likely expand mass screening to the township, or even the district, at Chengdu.

    Manzhouli at Inner Mongolia “Autonomous” Region currently has 26 confirmed, 2 asymptomatic and 1 suspect cases. 1,421 individuals are under quarantine.

    Yesterday, China reported 10 new imported confirmed cases and 5 imported asymptomatic cases and 1 new imported suspect case:

    * Shanghai Municipality – 4 confirmed cases, 2 Chinese nationals returning from the UK and 1 each from the Hungary and Georgia (via Helsinki); 1 suspect case, no information released
    * Guangzhou in Guangdong Province – 2 confirmed cases, 1 Chinese national each returning from Kenya and the US; 2 asymptomatic cases, 1 Chinese national each returning from Saudi Arabia and Kenya
    * Shenzhen in Guangdong Province – 1 confirmed case, a Chinese national returning from Russia
    * Chengdu in Sichuan Province – 3 confirmed cases (1 previously asymptomatic), new cases are Chinese nationals returning from the Netherlands and Indonesia
    * Zhengzhou in Henan Province – 2 asymptomatic cases, no information released
    * Tianjin Municipality – 1 asymptomatic case, a Chinese national returning from Spain

    Yesterday, Hong Kong reported 100 new cases, 5 imported (from India and Pakistan) and 95 local (27 of whom without clear sources of infection, 13 cases related to ballroom dancing clubs). An additional 70 cases are preliminarily positive, awaiting retesting and confirmation. There are currently 38 patients in critical condition.

  3. 3.

    NotMax

    December 8, 2020 at 5:16 am

    Number of countries reporting cumulative case numbers of 500,000 or more is now 25.

    U.S. ~15,121k
    India ~9695k
    Brazil ~6628k
    Russia ~2515k
    France ~2322k
    Italy ~1743k
    U.K. ~1740k
    Spain ~1702k
    Argentina ~1466k
    Colombia ~1377k
    Germany ~1200k
    Mexico ~11182k
    Poland ~1068k
    Iran ~1051k
    Peru ~975k
    Turkey ~860k
    Ukraine ~833k
    South Africa ~818k
    Belgium ~593k
    Indonesia ~586k
    Netherlands ~567k
    Iraq ~566k
    Chile ~562k
    Czechia ~551k
    Romania ~517k
    .

  4. 4.

    mrmoshpotato

    December 8, 2020 at 5:23 am

    Why on earth would young, healthy people vaccinate themselves against COVID-19?

    Why would you not jump into a lava lake?

  5. 5.

    NeenerNeener

    December 8, 2020 at 5:26 am

    Monroe County NY stats from yesterday:

    “Only” 322 new cases, with 545 people in the hospital, and now “only” 98 people in the ICU. Death count still at 350.

    Let’s hope we continue to trend downward, but with Christmas coming up I’m not optimistic.

  6. 6.

    marv

    December 8, 2020 at 5:36 am

    Those NYC firefighters declining vaccination because they’re leary of safety gotta be trippin’.

  7. 7.

    mrmoshpotato

    December 8, 2020 at 5:37 am

    @marv: Trippin’. Balls.

  8. 8.

    Amir Khalid

    December 8, 2020 at 5:49 am

    Malaysia’s daily Covid-19 numbers. Director-General of Health Dr Noor Hisham Abdullah reports 1,012 new cases today in his media statement, for a cumulative reported total of 75,306 cases. Dr Noor Hisham also reports four new deaths today, for a total of 388 deaths — 0.52% of the cumulative reported total, 0.60% of resolved cases.

    10,862 active and contagious cases are currently in hospital; 126 are in ICU, 62 of them on respirators. Meanwhile, 1,750 patients recovered and were discharged, for a total of 64,056 patients recovered — 85.1% of the cumulative reported total.

    Two new clusters were reported today: Darul building site in KL, Selangor, and Negeri Sembilan; and Seruling in KL and Selangor.

    1,005 new cases today are local infections. Selangor has 416 cases: 98 in older clusters, 17 in Seruling cluster, 116 close-contact screenings, and 185 other screenings. Sabah has 271 cases: 70 in existing clusters, 121 close-contact screenings, and 80 other screenings. Johor has 108 cases: 63 in existing clusters,  22 close-contact screenings, and 23 other screenings. KL has 93 cases: 45 in older clusters, three in Darul building site cluster, 12 close-contact screenings, and 33 other screenings.

    Pahang has 33 cases: 31 in existing clusters, and two other screenings. Perak has 29 cases: 28 in existing clusters, and one other screening. Negeri Sembilan has 23 cases: 20 in existing clusters,  one close-contact screening, and two other screenings. Penang has 18 cases: six in existing clusters, five close-contact screenings, and seven other screenings. Kedah has 10 cases: eight in existing clusters, and two other screenings. Sarawak has one case, found in other screening. Kelantan has two cases, both found in other screening. And Putrajaya has one case, in an existing cluster.

    Labuan, Terengganu, Melaka, and Perlis reported no new cases today.

    Seven new cases are imported. Five were reported in KL, and one each in Selangor and Sarawak.

    The four deaths today, all reported in Sabah, are a 64-year-old woman with hypertension; a 92-year-old woman with hernia, anaemia, and osteoarthritis; a 33-year-old woman with diabetes, hypertension and chronic kidney disease; and a 90-year-old non-Malaysian woman.

    In other news, the Mufti of Kedah (head of the state religious authority) has declared that coronavirus vaccines are halal.

  9. 9.

    Chyron HR

    December 8, 2020 at 5:49 am

    Why on earth would young, healthy people vaccinate themselves against COVID-19?

    Because they would like to be old, healthy people someday?

  10. 10.

    Johnny's mom

    December 8, 2020 at 5:56 am

    Am I alone in thinking there’s a strong chance Rudy’s Covid positive test was invented to get him off camera asap? Real, exaggerated or complete lie, an a symptomatic man got a hospital bed when hospitals are saturated.

  11. 11.

    NotMax

    December 8, 2020 at 5:59 am

    @Amir Khalid

    Oh my. Don’t tell the RWNJs it’s Muslim-approved.

    //

  12. 12.

    Amir Khalid

    December 8, 2020 at 6:00 am

    Firemen are essential workers, with potential exposure to infected people. Can’t the FDNY order them to get vaccinated?

  13. 13.

    mrmoshpotato

    December 8, 2020 at 6:07 am

    @Chyron HR: Spending part of their days finding Kylee Zempel.

    “I don’t know who you are. I don’t know what you want. If you are looking for ransom, I can tell you I don’t have money. But what I do have are a very particular set of skills, skills I have acquired over a very long career. Skills that make me a nightmare for people like you. If you let my daughter go now stop being a dumbass, that’ll be the end of it. I will not look for you, I will not pursue you. But if you don’t, I will look for you, I will find you, and I will kill you smack you upside the head so tremendous bigly you still won’t come to your dumbass senses, because you’re a dumbass.”

  14. 14.

    mrmoshpotato

    December 8, 2020 at 6:13 am

    @Amir Khalid:

    In other news, the Mufti of Kedah (head of the state religious authority) has declared that coronavirus vaccines are halal. 

    Delicious. ?

  15. 15.

    Mary G

    December 8, 2020 at 6:14 am

    Orange County continues to suck. New cases 1,964. Most hospitalized ever at 877, and we will need a new graph, because the  one we’re using tops out at 900.

  16. 16.

    OzarkHillbilly

    December 8, 2020 at 6:18 am

    This is what happens to scientists who do their job honestly.
    This is what happens to people who speak truth to power.
    I tell them my husband and my two children are upstairs… and THEN one of them draws his gun.
    On my children.
    This is Desantis’ Florida.

  17. 17.

    Brachiator

    December 8, 2020 at 6:20 am

    @mrmoshpotato:

    Why on earth would young, healthy people vaccinate themselves against COVID-19?

    In California, a conservative politician suggested that everyone under age 50 be allowed to live their lives without any restrictions and those over age 50 be encouraged to stay indoors.

    These people just don’t seem to be able to grasp the idea that people who might not get sick can still be infectious and still transmit the virus to others, or that spreading the virus can still pose a risk to others.

  18. 18.

    mrmoshpotato

    December 8, 2020 at 6:23 am

    @Brachiator: Fire that selfish assclown into the Sun.

  19. 19.

    NotMax

    December 8, 2020 at 6:27 am

    @Brachiator

    Said person an ass, with a capital ASS. Honey badger Virus don’t care.

  20. 20.

    a thousand flouncing lurkers was fidelio

    December 8, 2020 at 6:29 am

    Tennessee’s numbers from Monday December 7—bear in mind that these reflect the typical weekend lags in reporting:

    New cases: 8,136 (total—408,730; the state population is around 6.8 million.)

    New deaths: 66 (total—5009.)

    Hospitalizations: 23 new/2,529 total. At this point we have just over 180 ICU beds available statewide and around 1770 total beds open statewide, of a total 11,500 or so. Relatively few hospitalized cases are on ventilators currently; that’s one area where we have plenty of excess capacity still.

    Governor Lee has not yet issued a state-wide mask mandate, although he has activated National Guard units around the state to help out. Around 20 counties in Tennessee has no hospitals of their own; many others have very small hospitals, with 50 beds or less being common—there are quite a few with only 25 beds, so there are many people being treated 50 miles or more away from home.
    At least two hospitals in the eastern part of the state are now using refrigerated trucks because their morgues are full.

    In addition to not issuing any statewide mask orders, Lee has not issued any statewide orders on business closures and restrictions—it’s all up to local authorities. At least one county mayor was awaiting guidance from the Holy Spirit, the last I heard.

    We don’t have Medicaid expansion here either, because Soshulism.

    I am very grateful to be working from home.

    (All figures from the state health department website.)

  21. 21.

    TS (the original)

    December 8, 2020 at 6:30 am

    From the story about trump’s “summit”

     

    In a call with reporters, White House officials acknowledged that they had initially invited drug manufacturers to the event. A spokesman, however, claimed it was Marks’ planned attendance that led the administration to rescind its invitations, as an FDA regulator’s presence alongside drug manufacturers at the event could create a perceived conflict for the agency and the companies it regulates.

    Since when did trump or anyone else in his administration worry about a perceived conflict. The usual b.s because the invitation was declined.

  22. 22.

    mrmoshpotato

    December 8, 2020 at 6:36 am

    Click for Kruse’s second tweet. It’s…(chef’s kiss)

    Why on earth would young, healthy people vaccinate themselves against polio? https://t.co/6mDwVPrYKB— Kevin M. Kruse (@KevinMKruse) December 7, 2020

  23. 23.

    Catherine D.

    December 8, 2020 at 6:37 am

    @Amir Khalid: Depends on the union contract. I know that during the pandemic in the late 60s, flu shots were definitely encouraged, but I don’t know that it was ordered.

    (My father was FDNY for 40 years.)

  24. 24.

    Barry

    December 8, 2020 at 6:58 am

    @marv: “Those NYC firefighters declining vaccination because they’re leary of safety gotta be trippin’.”

     

    Especially as the first wave of doses should be used immediately, and then people will have to wait.

  25. 25.

    John S.

    December 8, 2020 at 7:00 am

    Florida Gov. deSantis has a lot to answer for

    He sure does, but since it’s Floriduh, he is more likely to get re-elected than face any consequences for his actions.

    This raid on Ms. Jones just conveniently coincides with a huge Sun-Sentinel investigation that dropped a few days ago and found Deathsantis has been up to no good all along:

    Throughout the COVID-19 crisis in Florida, Gov. Ron DeSantis’ administration engaged in a pattern of spin and concealment that misled the public on the gravest health threat the state has ever faced, a South Florida Sun Sentinel investigation has found.

  26. 26.

    OzarkHillbilly

    December 8, 2020 at 7:12 am

    Here in Misery we continue to flirt with a 20% positivity test rate (just above or just below for almost a month now. Our inpatient beds are at 81% occupancy and our ICU beds are at 84%. But at least we ain’t got no gubmint telling us to mask up or that we can’t git shitfaced in a crowded bar.

  27. 27.

    Ramalama

    December 8, 2020 at 7:17 am

    @Amir Khalid: Malaysia’s doing better than Quebec province (and therefore Canada) for the day anyway. Quebec has 1577 new cases. I haven’t checked Canada’s stats but I do know the western provinces are getting clobbered by COVID now too. Previously it was mostly Quebec and Ontario. Especially the old folks’ homes in Quebec.

  28. 28.

    terben

    December 8, 2020 at 7:19 am

    In Australia today, we have 15 new cases. All these cases are among returned overseas travellers in quarantine. Two states, Victoria and South Australia, restarted their quarantine programs today with the arrival of international flights. These had been shut down because of recent Covid outbreaks, caused by failures in the quarantine process. The number of new cases is expected to rise because of the increased numbers in quarantine. Residents returning from overseas seem to have significant levels of infection.

    New South Wales uses creative accounting to claim only 1 active case despite having 6 new cases today. They are refusing to classify quarantine cases as active and so may we take them at their word and ignore the 71 cases found in NSW quarantine this week. The rest of the country has 49 active cases, all returnees in quarantine. The last Covid death was 8 days ago.

    On a personal note, last Saturday marked the return of the weekly running event ‘parkrun’ to my home state. ‘parkrun’ is a free 5 km event which is run on Saturday morning every week in 1845 locations across 22 countries, or was pre Covid. All the events were shut down in February/March and are just now restarting where it is considered safe. It was terrific to run, even with a niggling injury, and see familiar faces after a nine month break.

    Australia currently has 39 cases in hospitals in 3 locations, NSW, Queensland and the Northern Territory. There are 0 cases in ICU.

  29. 29.

    WereBear

    December 8, 2020 at 7:34 am

    And Thanksgiving has not yet hit…

    Here in NY, we have a contact app which operates via Bluetooth, so I have that turned on and my phone on my person whenever I go out. We have masks by the door when plumbers come, like yesterday… who tend to NOT wear them. At least our landlord does.

    I don’t understand why NY, who has hotspots less than any other state, and an infection rate less than any other state, still glows blood red on the maps I see. Love him or hate him, Governor Cuomo has done the best of any governor. He had Dr. Fauci on his press conference yesterday, saying so!

    Considering Mr WereBear’s chronic illness, and my own vulnerability via age, I think the governor is the only reason I can sleep at night, however fitfully.

  30. 30.

    Sloane Ranger

    December 8, 2020 at 7:56 am

    Meanwhile in the UK, we had 14,718 new cases yesterday. This is about a 2500 decrease from Sunday’s figures but is probably still affected by weekend delays in reporting. The R number remains at 0.8 to 1.0 but the rolling 7-day average shows an increase of 4.7%. New cases by home nation,

    England – 11,623 (down @2600)

    Northern Ireland – 397 (down 22)

    Scotland – 677 (up 34)

    Wales – 2021 (up @100).

    Wales is the only home nation showing a consistent rise in cases.

    Deaths – There were 189 deaths within 28 days of a positive test yesterday. 177 in England, 9 in Northern Ireland, 1 in Scotland and 2 in Wales.

    Testing – 272,787 tests were processed on Sunday, 6 December out of a capacity of 555,960. The rolling 7-day average for tests has increased by 7%.

    Hospitalisations – There were 14,556 people in hospital on Thursday, 3 December and 1274 people on ventilators on Friday, 4th.  All metrics are still reducing and the rolling 7-day average for hospital admissions is down by 9.4%.

    General – Nothing of note, except British politicians and press are calling the vaccinations a great victory for British science and ingenuity. Considering there was no British input into the Pfizer vaccine, I cannot see how this is the case. Just heard a Brexit (now re-named as Reform) Party spokesman being called out by a BBC presenter for trying to say that Brexit is the reason we are the first to roll out the vaccine as we didn’t have to wait for the European Medicines Agency (EMA) to give the go ahead. The presenter pointed out that EMA authority is advisory only and EU nations are free to go ahead based on the findings of their own agencies.

  31. 31.

    Glidwrith

    December 8, 2020 at 8:12 am

    Question: in light of the reporting that Shitgibbon didn’t bother to purchase more than 100 million vaccinations from Pfizer, does the reporting of states buying vaccine represent additional vaccine over and above federal purchases?

  32. 32.

    terben

    December 8, 2020 at 8:17 am

    @Sloane Ranger: It would seem that British politicians suffer from the same delusions of adequacy as their counterparts everywhere else. Just how is Brexit working out for them … and you?

  33. 33.

    Sloane Ranger

    December 8, 2020 at 8:26 am

    @terben:

     

    Just how is Brexit working out for them … and you?

    Don’t know yet. We officially left last year but we’re still in the transition stage so the actual effects of leaving won’t kick in until after 31st December.

    I expect shortages of goods and price hikes to start sometime in mid to late January once the stuff businesses stockpiled before the 31st run out. Will keep everyone apprised as things develop.

  34. 34.

    gvg

    December 8, 2020 at 8:28 am

    @marv: I don’t know that firefighters encounter the public that much and when they do they are wearing smoke masks, but they do practically live with each other in teams and there have been common instances of a whole team getting the virus leaving a district undermanned for firefighting.  This is the season for house fires too.  It needs to be properly explained to them.

  35. 35.

    Amir Khalid

    December 8, 2020 at 8:30 am

    @Sloane Ranger:

    I am particularly concerned that Liverpool FC will face new constraints on bringing in players from the EU zone.

  36. 36.

    Soprano2

    December 8, 2020 at 8:38 am

    So, this happened about 10 miles south of me this weekend: https://www.news-leader.com/story/news/local/missouri/2020/12/07/springfield-covid-james-river-church-busy-weekend-christmas-services-outrage/3859464001/

    COVID-19 ‘doesn’t care about our religion’: Busy Christmas church services at James River spark viral outrage, criticism
    Internet users and at least two local health leaders had a strong reaction to a half-dozen in-person Christmas church services held Saturday and Sunday at the four campuses belonging to James River Church.
    Photos went viral over platforms like Facebook, Twitter and Instagram showing densely packed congregants, many of whom weren’t wearing masks. All appeared united in worshipping Jesus during a highly produced holiday service that included music, visual effects, elaborate costumes and performances — along with biblical preaching.

    Here’s a link to a tweet of a pic someone took that went viral around here: https://twitter.com/Jeanne_Mann/status/1335611079607521288

    *le sigh* Lots of these people live in Springfield, I’m sure. I even found out from the story that their biggest church is inside the city limits of Ozark, where they have a mask mandate! Never mind that, we’re religious so we can’t spread COVID. *facepalm

  37. 37.

    Soprano2

    December 8, 2020 at 8:41 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: It’s a mystery to me why Parson doesn’t do something now. He got re-elected, he doesn’t have to worry about all the crazies in the rural towns getting mad at him now. He must really believe the crap that comes out of his mouth. I get so tired of all the government people like him who get mild cases and then think even more that it’s no big deal. It just got really real for a lot of my co-workers, because we had what I think is the first death of City personnel from COVID, and it was someone most of them know from the Street Department. One guy told me the man had gone to the funeral of a friend who died of COVID just 3 weeks ago! They announced 19 deaths here this morning, it used to be one or two a day.

  38. 38.

    Ramalama

    December 8, 2020 at 8:47 am

    @Sloane Ranger: Re: Brexit:

    UK: Can we have our cake & eat it

    EU: No

    UK: Can we though

    EU: No

    UK: Can we have our cake

    EU: Maybe

    UK: And eat it

    EU: No

    UK: What if we pass a law saying we can

    EU: No

    UK: But then we offer not to

    EU: No

    UK MEDIA: Talks have stalled over new unreasonable EU demands

  39. 39.

    WereBear

    December 8, 2020 at 9:09 am

    @Soprano2:

    COVID-19 (coronavirus): Long-term effects
    Most people who have coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) recover completely within a few weeks. But some people — even those who had mild versions of the disease — continue to experience symptoms after their initial recovery.Nov 17, 2020



    COVID-19 (coronavirus): Long-term effects – Mayo Clinic

  40. 40.

    prostratedragon

    December 8, 2020 at 9:10 am

    Pfizer offered the Trump administration a chance to lock in additional supplies before its vaccine was proved effective in clinical trials. But the administration, according to people familiar with the talks, never made the deal.

    Chickenshitler.

  41. 41.

    YY_Sima Qian

    December 8, 2020 at 9:34 am

    As of 9 PM today, Chengdu in Sichuan Province reported 1 more confirmed and 1 more asymptomatic cases, for 4 confirmed and 1 asymptomatic cases total today, or 5 confirmed and 1 asymptomatic cases so far in the cluster. Confirmed Case #4 played Mahjong with Confirmed Case #2 at a parlor in the village, and Confirmed Case #5 played at the same parlor (though not necessarily with Case #s 2 & 4). Confirmed Case #6 is a traced close contact and a relative of Confirmed Case #s 1 & 2 living in a neighboring village, and had stayed at their place recently. Asymptomatic Case #1 is a resident at the village where most members of the cluster live, his connection to the reported cases are still being investigated. Expect more cases to emerge in the coming days.

  42. 42.

    Sloane Ranger

    December 8, 2020 at 9:51 am

    @Amir Khalid:

     

     

    I am particularly concerned that Liverpool FC will face new constraints on bringing in players from the EU zone.

    I understand. Most fans are. I don’t know if this link will set your mind at ease. It sets out what the Football authorities have agreed with the government. hope it helps.

    https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/12149187/brexits-effect-on-premier-league-transfer-window-would-paul-pogba-and-cesc-fabregas-have-still-signed

  43. 43.

    Another Scott

    December 8, 2020 at 10:59 am

    @Ramalama: Exactly.

    I used to watch the BBC News on TV every evening.  I finally got disgusted enough by it to stop.  The nearly relentless pushing of BoJo’s line, the “find the right balance between the economy and fighting the virus” slant in nearly every story, etc., etc.  They do the MAGA safari’s too – “let’s talk to a fisherman who voted for Brexit and see how he’s doing”.

    I’m curious to see how long they can keep it up once the UK crashes out as BoJo seemingly intended all along…

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  44. 44.

    Miss Bianca

    December 8, 2020 at 11:09 am

    @Ramalama: OK, I laffed.

  45. 45.

    Ramalama

    December 8, 2020 at 11:55 am

    @Another Scott: Canada does this to a small extent. There was no talk of ‘opening up’ until Trump bozos in the US kept hammering away. Canada is definitely influenced by the neighbors to the south. It was a little too soon. And it had some negatory effects. But Canada is also still Canada, so the spread did not hit the same awful benchmarks as the US.

  46. 46.

    bluefoot

    December 8, 2020 at 12:25 pm

    I appalled that a scientist had state police come to her door and point a gun at her children because she had the temerity to try and get accurate COVID numbers for the state (FL) out to the public.  What is this, East Germany?  And why isn’t this all over the news?

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