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Negative Attention

by @heymistermix.com|  March 8, 202111:16 am| 85 Comments

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My feeds are full of pieces about the filibuster, Manchin and Sinema.   Regular readers of the blog know that I dislike the Senate for a number of reasons, including the ability of drama queens to halt the proceedings and make it all about them rather than the legislation.  A combination of DC brain, being high on one’s own supply, and the corruption of power, can lead some Senators to act willfully, capriciously and irrationally.  Their acting out is amplified and enabled by a press machine that slavishly covered the tantrums of the last occupant of the oval office and is looking for more of the same.

All that said, the reason that Manchin and Sinema are getting the level of attention they’re getting right now is due to the hard work of organizers and voters in Georgia.  Georgia is already working to pass bills that make it illegal to vote while black.  Republicans are going to filibuster HR1 when it arrives at the Senate.  Will the precious rules of the deliberative boy override the desire to have the media cover their every utterance?  I wish I knew the answer to that question.  But, like children who don’t get enough attention growing up, it’s hard to predict when these two (and others waiting in the wings) will act out.

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  1. 1.

    Ocotillo

    March 8, 2021 at 11:19 am

    Frist?

  2. 2.

    Ocotillo

    March 8, 2021 at 11:20 am

    Wow, actually am first and can’t hang around as I have a meeting to join in a few……

    Nice topic, look forward to discussion.

  3. 3.

    jeffreyw

    March 8, 2021 at 11:25 am

    Call 911!  I just saw a frist and run!!

  4. 4.

    Major Major Major Major

    March 8, 2021 at 11:25 am

    Very true. This is a good problem to have!

    Manchin obviously (to me) is going through the motions here and working his way towards reforming the filibuster in some way that lets them pass voting rights. Sinema… might be high on her own supply.

  5. 5.

    BC in Illinois

    March 8, 2021 at 11:26 am

    Roy Blunt — of the Blunt Lobbying Family — will not run for re-election in 2022.

    It’s time for Missouri to read Stacy Abrams’s book, Our Time is Now and see if we can’t change our state the way that Stacy Abrams changed hers.

    1. The prevailing winds can change in two years. 2022 may be a good year for Democrats.

    2. If he can see the way to do it personally, I would work diligently for Jason Kander. In 2016, Joe Biden came to speak for Kander, at the Pageant in St. Louis. I was so fired up, that I went door-to-door for Kander. And I SUCK at going door to door.

  6. 6.

    germy

    March 8, 2021 at 11:27 am

    Wallace to Manchin: “I love talking to you, senator, but you are on four Sunday shows today … Are you enjoying your position of power maybe a little too much?”

    Manchin on CNN: “Chuck …”

    @jaketapper: “I know you’re doing the round of shows today, but … I’m Jake, not Chuck.”

    — Will Saletan (@saletan) March 7, 2021

  7. 7.

    cain

    March 8, 2021 at 11:28 am

    @Ocotillo: ​
     
    More importantly, you got #2. Congratulations. That’s where the shit begins, yo!

    I think I trust Manchin more than I do Sinema. That whole boopty boop thing she did with her vote speaks to someone whose flair for the dramatic is ill timed. A lot of people were pissed off by that gesture. Manchin in comparison did a pretty good job and he’s already making noises about changing the filibuster.

    I think making it hard to filibuster is not a bad idea. We know the GOP are lazy cowards and they don’t have the stamina to go up there and filibuster. I don’t think the filibuster was ever meant to stop a bill indefinitely the way it has been used these past 25 years.

    Change it, and let’s get on withe John Lewis Voting Rights Act and secure our democracy, and lock out these assholes until they change their behavior.

  8. 8.

    BC in Illinois

    March 8, 2021 at 11:30 am

    @BC in Illinois:

    Kander says that he wont be running in 2022.

  9. 9.

    cain

    March 8, 2021 at 11:31 am

    @germy: ​
     
    If I was Jake I would be pretty insulted. Chuck Todd is a quack and deserves to have a show whose ratings should plummet like Trump’s coherence.

  10. 10.

    Bill in Section 147

    March 8, 2021 at 11:31 am

    I wonder if the more “focus on the filibuster” is intentional in order to not focus on the bill. The news should be, OMG they passed it! Relief!

    I’ll admit to being a bit, “the owners of major media were actually very happy with the previous administration’s lack of ethics and focus on government does NOT work and more wealth for the wealthy stances.”

  11. 11.

    Baud

    March 8, 2021 at 11:35 am

    @Bill in Section 147:

    Yes, I agree.  Maybe we can get back to that when the bill is actually signed into law.

  12. 12.

    germy

    March 8, 2021 at 11:35 am

    Rep. Clyburn: “There’s no way under the sun that in 2021 that we are going to allow the filibuster to be used to deny voting rights.”

    “If Manchin and Sinema enjoy being in the majority, they had better figure out a way to get around the filibuster.” t.co/LcWw981d1i

    — Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) March 8, 2021

  13. 13.

    Baud

    March 8, 2021 at 11:36 am

    @Major Major Major Major:

    Sinema is definitely flaky, but she also had no demands for her vote, except for not endorsing the minimum wage.

  14. 14.

    mrmoshpotato

    March 8, 2021 at 11:37 am

    @cain: “Do I look like that goateed asshat to you?  I’m from a different network that sucked Dump’s ass in 2016.”

  15. 15.

    Major Major Major Major

    March 8, 2021 at 11:39 am

    @Baud: Yeah but she’s also spoken this year about the need to expand the filibuster.

  16. 16.

    Another Scott

    March 8, 2021 at 11:40 am

    I got word that the White House is going to have an event today, talking about CDC guidance for those who have been vaccinated, masking, how to interact with those who haven’t been vaccinated.

    … gradually, and then suddenly.

    Good things are happening, but we’re not out of the woods yet.

    Keep on Working (3:23)

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  17. 17.

    SFAW

    March 8, 2021 at 11:41 am

    @cain:

    Norm Ornstein had some interesting suggestions re: how to fix/reform the filibuster. Were I not so lazy, I’d find a link

    ETA: OK, got unlazy for a second. Now I gotta lie down and rest a bit.

  18. 18.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    March 8, 2021 at 11:42 am

    @germy: Wallace to Manchin: “I love talking to you, senator, but you are on four Sunday shows today … Are you enjoying your position of power maybe a little too much?”

    not a huge fan of Chris Wallace, but that’s a question that needed to be asked. And I laughed reading it.

  19. 19.

    Betty Cracker

    March 8, 2021 at 11:42 am

    @Major Major Major Major: Josh Marshall is similarly optimistic, so I am attempting to maintain optimism too. Marshall yesterday after Manchin’s Sunday show rounds:

    If we move toward some version of reform that changes the filibuster from an easy flat no to anything that can’t muster 60 votes to something more like a stopgap the minority can use to slow down and make a spectacle of legislation but is yet inherently limited I think we will marvel at how broken we let the national political process become before we made the change.

    This gets lost in the weeds sometimes, but the evil of the modern form of the filibuster is that it lets the minority party kill legislation without a debate. That’s a natural advantage for Republicans because they’re the ones who oppose popular legislation, and the “email filibuster” lets them kill it without taking the heat. Changing that would be a huge advantage for Dems.

    Marshall also noted that Machin talked up a HUGE infrastructure bill in the Axios interview and talked about paying for it with a corporate tax hike and rolling back Turnip’s tax breaks for the wealthy. Not quite Elizabeth Warren territory, but I’ll take it!

    The one thing that seriously worries me about filibuster-philes like Manchinema & Co. is that we HAVE to stop all-out assault on voting rights. Pretty much everything depends on that, and the GOP knows it too, so I don’t see them budging. We’ll need a filibuster carve-out or something to make that work.

  20. 20.

    SFAW

    March 8, 2021 at 11:45 am

    @Betty Cracker:

    The one thing that seriously worries me about filibuster-philes like Manchinema & Co. is that we HAVE to stop all-out assault on voting rights. Pretty much everything depends on that, and the GOP knows it too, so I don’t see them budging. We’ll need a filibuster carve-out or something to make that work.

    From your keyboard to FSM’s earlike appendages.

    ETA: Twentieth!

  21. 21.

    Elizabelle

    March 8, 2021 at 11:45 am

    @BC in Illinois:   Thank you for reminding me about Stacey Abrams’ book.  A copy was available at my library; placed a hold and will be reading it soon.

    I agree.  2022 could be a very good year.

    And, 2021 too.  Governors’ races in Virginia (and New Jersey too, if memory serves; they’re always the canaries immediately after a presidential election).

  22. 22.

    Tractarian

    March 8, 2021 at 11:46 am

    My preferred version of filibuster reform:

    Cloture may be invoked only if a group of senators representing more than 60 percent of the U.S. population agrees.

    I mean, it makes more sense than the Jim Crow sh*t we’re currently stuck with.

  23. 23.

    jeffreyw

    March 8, 2021 at 11:47 am

    @cain: I’ll just view the “Chuck” as a subtle pushback for the insulting question he was asked.

  24. 24.

    SFAW

    March 8, 2021 at 11:47 am

    @Tractarian:

    Cloture may be invoked only if a group of senators representing more than 60 percent of the U.S. population agrees.

    Interesting idea.

  25. 25.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    March 8, 2021 at 11:48 am

    @Baud:

    Sinema is definitely flaky, but she also had no demands for her vote, except for not endorsing the minimum wage.

    A good point. But I can’t for the life of me think who she thought the audience was for the little thumbs-down dance. The imitating McCain notion doesn’t really explain it, because McCain rarely looked (on camera) like he was taking anything he did as less than an historic gesture (“an historic” to reflect McCain’s self-importance– in his own mind, he was always wearing a toga on the Senate floor)

  26. 26.

    Elizabelle

    March 8, 2021 at 11:49 am

    @Tractarian:   I like that idea a lot.  60% of the population.  It pains me how much representation the Dakotas and high plains states have.

    Anything that points out, again and again, how much the Electoral College distorts our politics.  And that is past time to drop it.

  27. 27.

    jonas

    March 8, 2021 at 11:50 am

    I trust Manchin and Sinema (esp. Sinema) are aware that w/o HR 1, *their own states* are basically planning on fucking with voting rights so that it will be close to impossible for them to be re-elected. Let’s hope self-preservation triumphs over their delicate fee-fees about “decorum” and “tradition.”

  28. 28.

    Matt McIrvin

    March 8, 2021 at 11:57 am

    I heard somewhere that Sinema was motivated by some kind of procedure argument–she claims she’s still for raising the minimum wage, she just doesn’t believe it’s legitimate to do it in this way. Which makes me think she’s still driven by delusions about how power works in the Senate, and what would be possible if it worked the way she wants it to work.

    It’s also important to remember that she wasn’t the make-or-break vote on the minimum-wage increase.

  29. 29.

    Booger

    March 8, 2021 at 12:00 pm

    @SFAW: WHY DO YOU HATE SQUARE STATES???

  30. 30.

    Major Major Major Major

    March 8, 2021 at 12:01 pm

    @Betty Cracker: Yeah, it’s funny how the filibuster actually prevents the very compromise its proponents claim to want.

    As for optimism, well, I’m an optimist… we’ve also seen this show before.

  31. 31.

    Bluegirlfromwyo

    March 8, 2021 at 12:02 pm

    If the Dems bring back the talking filibuster, that’s fine with me. Look at how Ron Johnson screwed up the reading of the ARP. By the time the GOP figured out what to do with an actual filibuster, we could have voting rights, infrastructure, and police reform bills passed.

  32. 32.

    Villago Delenda Est

    March 8, 2021 at 12:03 pm

    Their acting out is amplified and enabled by a press machine that slavishly covered the tantrums of the last occupant of the oval office and is looking for more of the same.

    Hence my nym.

  33. 33.

    Villago Delenda Est

    March 8, 2021 at 12:04 pm

    @Elizabelle: The Senate should be reduced to the power of the House of Lords, while we’re at it.

  34. 34.

    Just Chuck

    March 8, 2021 at 12:04 pm

    I’d rather Colorado didn’t get lumped in with the rest of Rectangula, thanks.

  35. 35.

    MattF

    March 8, 2021 at 12:05 pm

    It’s more than a little peculiar that Republicans are aping their Lord and Master by taking up indolence and performative cowardice, but I’ll take it. Leaves a wide-open field for intelligence and hard work. I.e., such as Pelosi and Abrams.

  36. 36.

    Brachiator

    March 8, 2021 at 12:05 pm

    @Bill in Section 147:

    I wonder if the more “focus on the filibuster” is intentional in order to not focus on the bill. The news should be, OMG they passed it! Relief!

    The bill is already getting a lot of positive news for how it might significantly reduce child poverty. As others have noted, when it is signed into law, it will be a really bigger deal.

    But the positive analysis is already negating the GOP carping.

  37. 37.

    jeffreyw

    March 8, 2021 at 12:05 pm

    I think I’ve been moderated.  Comment delenda est

  38. 38.

    schrodingers_cat

    March 8, 2021 at 12:08 pm

    @Baud: Apparently  Vt Jesus and his posturing on the minimum wage turned her off. She is not opposed to raising the minimum wage in theory from what I have read.

  39. 39.

    Baud

    March 8, 2021 at 12:09 pm

    @schrodingers_cat:

    Did she specifically mention him? Someone said up thread that she was hung up on the procedural issue as a general matter.

  40. 40.

    Steeplejack

    March 8, 2021 at 12:10 pm

    Well, I was WFB (working from bed) this morning, but this roused me to get up and get on the real computer.

    Atticus Goldfinch has a very plausible explainer on Joe Manchin—h/t to Rich Gardner in the Biden “Shocker” thread last night—that I recommend highly. Some excerpts (although I recommend reading the whole thing):

    I think I have a strange quirk where I can always see the net positive in Manchin’s actions. I think he’s incredibly cognizant of communications strategy and building narratives, and he plays the long game.

    I am thinking what Manchin did . . . looks kinda brilliant? Here’s why:

    Well, let’s look at the positives.

    1) Manchin gets yet another huge boost to his persona. Once again the most conservative voice. Most won’t know specifics of this, they’ll just know Manchin held it up for a bit.

    2) He did this with basically no impact to the overall bill.

    3) He somehow got this gift from Senate Republicans?

    7) Finally, after months of being the central figure in the filibuster debate, after being cast as the respectable moderate, drooled over as the Senator most concerned about maintaining Senate norms, he pulls his goddamn ace out of his sleeve.

    Manchin on the filibuster to @MeetThePress: “If you want to make it a little bit more painful, make him stand there and talk, I’m willing to look at any way we can. But I’m not willing to take away the involvement of the minority.”

    Do not underestimate what a huge deal this is. Some (myself included) pointed out repeatedly that Manchin + Sinema were very careful to always be against eliminating the filibuster, but they never said anything about reforms.

    GOP was happy to broadcast it as a win. Oops.

    CONCLUSION: Manchin caused the bill to weaken slightly, and in exchange created a massive amount of free media around his persona as the reasonable moderate. He then used that role to argue for massive filibuster reform and the stimulus package.

    I’ll take that deal.

    I forgot to include this tweet in my thread but LOL at this comment:

    “This last 24 hours was really chaotic. If this was the first big test, I don’t think he . . . crushed it. It was a very undisciplined, unorganized process,” said Senate Minority Whip John Thune (R-SD) of Schumer.

    “Man, those Democrats sure are bad at their jobs!” I say through tears as 1.9 trillion dollars of stimulus gets approved in a 50-50 Senate.

    “How undisciplined of the Dems!” I choke out as I realize all my senators left and let Schumer schedule the Garland vote.

    Apologies if someone already stuck this in during the time it took me to put it together.

    ETA: Goddamn blockquotes!

  41. 41.

    Baud

    March 8, 2021 at 12:13 pm

    Voting rights bill will probably get a huge boost when the Supremes uphold Arizona’s voter suppression laws later this year.

  42. 42.

    Joe Falco

    March 8, 2021 at 12:15 pm

    @Matt McIrvin: A political argument could be made that a stand-alone bill raising the minimum wage is more effective as a club against Republicans provided Sinema wasn’t the only D senator to say no to the amendment. Sinema doesn’t make that argument however* and her act with denying a minimum wage increase ammendment by doing a big thumbs down doesn’t make me think she believes that political argument privately. If she does believe, she needs someone on her staff to tell her to cut out the dumb theatrics.

    *I wouldn’t have expected her to publicly admit to using a potential minimum wage stand-alone bill as a politically savvy move to damage Republicans either. It’s odd how some people (on both sides) will say they hate politicians acting politically and think they somehow should act between being a saint and an evil-vanquishing warrior.

  43. 43.

    Kirk Spencer

    March 8, 2021 at 12:15 pm

    @SFAW: it would be able an amendment to the constitution, but I’ve long been a fan of making at least the members of the house if not both chambers proxy based. You represent x votes.

    There are problems with the system, and a multitude of variations. And it’s all likely a pipe dream given the amendment change needed.

    But still I ponder it.

  44. 44.

    BruceFromOhio

    March 8, 2021 at 12:21 pm

    @cain: ​
     

    Change it, and let’s get on withe John Lewis Voting Rights Act and secure our democracy, and lock out these assholes until they change their behavior.

    This. And if it doesn’t have Senator Sherrod Brown in the story, any US Senate breaking news gets filtered, starting now.

    Senate election news is a different story – Blunt out, Portman out, Ronnie the J making ‘should-I-stay-or-should-I-fuck-off’ fundraising noises, it’s making opportunities for Democrats and Independents, though without the ARP ‘no’ votes to hang around Trumpista and Christianista necks it’s gonna be a tough row to hoe. Red states love them some full frontal fascism.

  45. 45.

    raven

    March 8, 2021 at 12:25 pm

    Attacking the black church was pivotal in the recent Senate wins here. If these fuckers think doing it again is a good idea have at it.

  46. 46.

    Joe Falco

    March 8, 2021 at 12:34 pm

    @raven: “Why don’t Republicans believe Christians should vote?” is a question any Democrat should ask journalists and news shows that will listen.

  47. 47.

    Jinchi

    March 8, 2021 at 12:40 pm

    @schrodingers_cat: 

    Apparently Vt Jesus and his posturing on the minimum wage turned her off.

    I’m sorry, but blaming Sinema’s move on “Vt Jesus”, is ridiculous. If she believes in raising the minimum wage, she should vote for it.

  48. 48.

    Fair Economist

    March 8, 2021 at 12:48 pm

    @BC in Illinois: All the Senatorial retirements, most of which are unforced (Shelby will be 88 and Burr was insider trading, but otherwise you’d expect these guys to re-up) are very good for us, but the flip side is that with most of the somewhat sane leaving, we *really* can’t afford to ever lose the trifecta again.

    @cain: Yeah, Manchin is playing centrist but he does work with us the large majority of the time, and most of his antics make sense as a way to improve his chances in one of the reddest states in the Union. Sinema is just being bizarre – I don’t understand her motivations.

  49. 49.

    joel hanes

    March 8, 2021 at 12:48 pm

    these two (and others waiting in the wings)

    Last I knew, Dianne Feinstein was on record as saying that she would not vote to kill the filibuster.

    Stipulated, she’s less performative about it than “these two”

  50. 50.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    March 8, 2021 at 12:55 pm

    @Baud:

    What happens when the SCOTUS decides any federal voting rights bill we pass is unconstitutional? Could they? What recourse would we have then?

  51. 51.

    Fair Economist

    March 8, 2021 at 12:58 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    A good point. But I can’t for the life of me think who she thought the audience was for the little thumbs-down dance. The imitating McCain notion doesn’t really explain it, because McCain rarely looked (on camera) like he was taking anything he did as less than an historic gesture (“an historic” to reflect McCain’s self-importance– in his own mind, he was always wearing a toga on the Senate floor)

    Sinema’s flourish would have been great in the right circumstances – voting against one of the many ridiculous GOP amendments, or against a bill to restrict women’s or GLBT rights. This just wasn’t it. If it was intended as a copy of McCain’s gesture it was all wrong – he was acting serious, like a Roman Emperor, and while it looks like grandstanding to be fair it might have been the most important vote of the decade.

  52. 52.

    Timill

    March 8, 2021 at 1:01 pm

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): Pack the court. More in sorrow than in anger, of course…

  53. 53.

    Steeplejack

    March 8, 2021 at 1:09 pm

    Is our Democrats learning? Yes!

    Schumer: “What happened in 2009 and ’10 is, we tried to work with the Republicans, the package ended up being much too small, and the recession lasted for five years. People got sour; we lost the election.”
    t.co/zMct3rHqTo

    — David Klion (@DavidKlion) March 8, 2021

  54. 54.

    schrodingers_cat

    March 8, 2021 at 1:12 pm

    @Jinchi: From what I read, she did not want to raise the wage using reconciliation and was annoyed that BS forced a vote on it.

  55. 55.

    Brachiator

    March 8, 2021 at 1:17 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    in his own mind, he was always wearing a toga on the Senate floor

    A great description.

  56. 56.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    March 8, 2021 at 1:25 pm

    @schrodingers_cat:

    Surely you agree her theatrics while voting it down were ridiculous and counterproductive, right?

  57. 57.

    kindness

    March 8, 2021 at 1:28 pm

    @joel hanes:  I think DiFi’s age has finally gone to her mental capacity.  She isn’t spry and it’s possible she is in a fog now.  A lot of the rest of her term will depend on how her aides handle her and what her medication levels will be.

  58. 58.

    schrodingers_cat

    March 8, 2021 at 1:30 pm

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): They were not helpful but I also saw how the swarm of bros descended on her, her wardrobe choice including a not so expensive Lululemon bag.  When they were 7 other Ds and all the Rs who voted against it.

  59. 59.

    Steeplejack

    March 8, 2021 at 1:31 pm

    Lincoln Project getting some scrutiny. (Trigger warning: NYT.) “Inside the Lincoln Project’s Secrets, Side Deals and Scandals.”

  60. 60.

    Betty Cracker

    March 8, 2021 at 1:33 pm

    @schrodingers_cat: IMO, that’s a coherent political position, that a minimum wage hike shouldn’t go through reconciliation. I don’t necessarily agree, but I can understand the argument. That said, I can’t imagine what she was thinking with that bit of theatrics on such an issue; it just seems dumb politically.

    I also don’t know if Sanders’ play (making everyone take a vote on $15) backfired on him too or if it worked as planned. If it was intended to make all the Republicans look like heartless monsters, oops, eight Dems also voted no. But with Sanders, who knows? Maybe he wanted to get all $15 opponents on record, so mission accomplished. [shrug]

  61. 61.

    Steeplejack

    March 8, 2021 at 1:40 pm

    @schrodingers_cat:

    It wasn’t just bros, and it wasn’t just about the bag. (Is $160 “expensive”? Maybe, if you’re making minimum wage and/​or having employment problems because of the pandemic.) It was about the optics. Why did she have to come up to the podium to cast her vote? And why did she need to bring her bag? She looked like she was just dropping something off before heading out to a play date. And the curtsy was frosting on the cake.

    The other seven Dems managed to vote no without looking like an ass.

  62. 62.

    StringOnAStick

    March 8, 2021 at 1:40 pm

    I didn’t see Sinema’s little dance and I’m betting on not the only one, so that alone isn’t likely to be as big an issue during her next campaign.  The reality is that not that any people pay that close attention to politics in general or watch TV news, especially the younger generations.  What matters is people’s lived experienced and results, and with the passage of this bill in feeling pretty good about our chances.

  63. 63.

    StringOnAStick

    March 8, 2021 at 1:44 pm

    @Steeplejack: I’ll ding her more on the fact it was Lululemon, a Galtian company I refuse to shop at.  Remember how their bags had (have?) “What would John Galt do” or some such Randian nonsense printed on them, so you can advertise the owners libertarian BS for him.  Hard pass.

  64. 64.

    Josie

    March 8, 2021 at 1:50 pm

    @Steeplejack:

    $160.00 for a bag is expensive, and I am not working for minimum wage.  I felt that whole scene was a poke in the eye to many of us.  I was not amused.

  65. 65.

    schrodingers_cat

    March 8, 2021 at 1:51 pm

    @Betty Cracker: @Steeplejack: Her theatrics were unhelpful.

  66. 66.

    germy

    March 8, 2021 at 1:51 pm

    Leaving Fox News on the TV in a public place is the new confederate flag.

    — Rod (@rodimusprime) March 8, 2021

  67. 67.

    Betty Cracker

    March 8, 2021 at 1:53 pm

    @StringOnAStick: Gross! I didn’t know that. Will avoid — thanks for the tip!

  68. 68.

    schrodingers_cat

    March 8, 2021 at 1:55 pm

    @StringOnAStick: It is overpriced for something that is not leather. I have never bought anything at Lululemon.

  69. 69.

    Steeplejack

    March 8, 2021 at 2:00 pm

    @StringOnAStick, @Josie:

    I don’t know squat about Lululemon or women’s bags in general. I had to hit the Google to get the info I did. I do know it wasn’t just left Twitter piling on poor Kyrsten.

    Perhaps she can up her game in the next round of the minimum-wage battle.

  70. 70.

    Betty Cracker

    March 8, 2021 at 2:01 pm

    Speaking of negative attention, are there any Nevada Dems here, and if so, wtf?

  71. 71.

    James E Powell

    March 8, 2021 at 2:02 pm

    @Steeplejack:

    The other seven Dems managed to vote no without looking like an ass.

    This exactly. What it looked like was that she scorned the idea of raising the minimum wage.

    And the flood of grief and excuses and paper thin defenses coming from her supporters shows that she realized afterwards that it was a stupid thing to do, but she doesn’t have enough class to just say, hey, I’m sorry, I didn’t mean that.

  72. 72.

    Steeplejack

    March 8, 2021 at 2:06 pm

    @Betty Cracker:

    Srsly. I have a friend who lives in Las Vegas and likes that the state has turned blue, but this may be a shade too far. Waiting to hear from her.

  73. 73.

    evap

    March 8, 2021 at 2:20 pm

    My question is whether a federal voting rights act will supersede the Georgia bill.   It seems like voting is mostly a state thing, in that different states can have different rules on absentee ballots, etc.    I worry that the GA bill will end up in the Supreme Court and they will rule in favor of the GOP.

  74. 74.

    Ksmiami

    March 8, 2021 at 2:22 pm

    @StringOnAStick: if it wasn’t for lululemon… I dont know what I’d do. They singlehandedly made athleisure a legitimate clothing category to the cheers of busy moms everywhere

  75. 75.

    Mike S (Now with a Democratic Congressperson!)

    March 8, 2021 at 2:30 pm

    @evap:  IANAL but

    Article I, Section 4, Clause 1: The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of chusing Senators.
    Seems to cover it pretty well that they do have the power.

  76. 76.

    Immanentize

    March 8, 2021 at 2:43 pm

    @evap: The constitution makes it clear — both in Article one and amendments 14, 15 and 19 that although States have first crack at elections, Congress can make any law it feels necessary to protect federal elections (house, senate and president).  Few states are so peevish that they are willing to spend twice as much money to have state elections on days different than federal elections.  But many southern states did/do so to keep old Jim Crow breathing.

  77. 77.

    Patricia Kayden

    March 8, 2021 at 2:44 pm

    Being blocked by Piers Morgan is a delight, because I am not exposed to his diarrhea of thoughts— Jennifer Gunter (@DrJenGunter) March 8, 2021

  78. 78.

    Patricia Kayden

    March 8, 2021 at 2:49 pm

    @cain: “Change it, and let’s get on withe John Lewis Voting Rights Act and secure our democracy”

    Yep. Passing the Voting Rights Act is imperative. Otherwise, we can say bye bye to our democracy.

  79. 79.

    cain

    March 8, 2021 at 3:17 pm

    @joel hanes: Last I knew, Dianne Feinstein was on record as saying that she would not vote to kill the filibuster.

    I suspect because she’s a woman in cognitive decline that she’s probably reverting back to a period of time where Republicans and Democratic members went to the ball together and dance the waltz. Today, one party is wearing white hoods and doing the twist the other is dancing with themselves.

  80. 80.

    jl

    March 8, 2021 at 4:52 pm

    Robert Penn Warren wrote a poem about a dilatory boy and a lost shoe.

    Manchin seems more dilatory than deliberative, but if he continues to, in the end, allow good policy to pass (edit: at least the most important parts), then he is a problem that can be managed, I hope that keeps up.

    I don’t know what’s going on with Sinema. I don’t understand what her antics at the the vote on the minimum wage were about.

  81. 81.

    Tractarian

    March 8, 2021 at 5:16 pm

    @Kirk Spencer:

    There are problems with the system, and a multitude of variations. And it’s all likely a pipe dream given the amendment change needed.

    The Senate can make its own rules – even ones seemingly contradicting the founders’ intent, like requiring a supermajority or unanimous consent for regular business.

    There’s no reason the Senate can’t change its own rules to provide that, for cloture purposes, each senator’s vote is weighted to the population of that senator’s state.

    Someone will sue, but federal courts – even the Trumpist SCOTUS – would be unlikely to intervene. If the filibuster itself is constitutional (which no one doubts), then this reform is constitutional.

  82. 82.

    Tractarian

    March 8, 2021 at 5:22 pm

    @jl:

    I don’t know what’s going on with Sinema. I don’t understand what her antics at the the vote on the minimum wage were about.

    No one seems to understand what her antics were about. Let me suggest: they weren’t about anything. She just forgot she was on camera, was fumbling with her bag, wanted to make her vote clear, and did something stupid.

    Sinema has supported a minimum wage hike in the past and even after this, she said she was open to doing it in separate legislation.

  83. 83.

    StringOnAStick

    March 8, 2021 at 5:30 pm

    @Ksmiami: Try Athleta instead, or Title Nine.

  84. 84.

    jl

    March 8, 2021 at 5:44 pm

    @Tractarian: Doesn’t sound any more deliberative than Manchin.

  85. 85.

    Sebastian

    March 8, 2021 at 5:47 pm

    @Betty Cracker:

    Sinema, like Manchin, is part of the plan and spectacle. Biden (and Obama) are playing the GOP and the media.

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