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COVID-19 Coronavirus Updates: Thursday / Friday, June 10-11

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One can only hope…


(But seriously… these are very sweet, earnest people, and even they think it’s too soon for the UK to open up entirely.)

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Perhaps that was the intention?:

Warning: extremely gruesome images in the links:

American expat in Singapore:

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(h/t commentor Jim, Foolish Literalist)

NRO chief misses his NRO cruises. But NRO doesn’t want to be sued when a bunch of sweaty hacking GOP Death Cultists swap COVID variants on NRO’s (rented) boat:

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  1. 1.

    NeenerNeener

    Monroe County, NY stats:

    23 new cases – 65.2% were people under 40, including 9 children between 0 and 19. Children under 10 had the most cases. 65.2% of the cases were also female.

    Deaths now at 1309.

    1.1% test positivity

    58.2% have had at least 1 shot
    52.4% are totally vaccinated

  2. 2.

    Cermet

    I give up on the anti-vaxxers; their stupidity is never going to change. While the new variant is an absolute disaster for the world, here it might serve a purpose – getting enough anti-vaxxers infected so we do reach herd immunity by this summer.

  3. 3.

    Lacuna Synecdoche

    Mig Greengard via Anne Laurie @ Top:

    And we know by now to multiply Russia’s official numbers by four. Also makes me wish we could get the American and Russian Covid denialists/anti-vaxxers together somewhere they wouldn’t threaten the rest of us.

    Like all-expenses paid vacation cruises?

  4. 4.

    Mary G

    I feel bad for the innocents they will harm, but the Bitcoiners deserve whatever happens to them.

  5. 5.

    Lacuna Synecdoche

    @Lacuna Synecdoche: ​

    Like all-expenses paid vacation cruises?

    Forgot to add: Like all-expenses paid lifetime vacation cruises?

    It would probably be cheaper than the months-long hospital stays the anti-vaxxers are setting themselves up for.

  7. 7.

    YY_Sima Qian

    On 6/10 China reported 9 new domestic confirmed & 1 new domestic asymptomatic cases.

    Guangdong Province reported 9 new domestic confirmed & 0 new domestic asymptomatic cases.

    • Guangzhou reported 9 new domestic confirmed cases, all at the epicenter sub-district in Liwan District, 8 are traced close contracts already under centralized quarantine & 1 was identified from mass screening of individuals deemed at risk. 2 sub-districts remain at High Risk, 3 sub-districts & 7 residential compounds remain at Medium Risk.
    • Zhanjiang did not report any new domestic positive case. 1 residential compound remains Medium Risk.
    • Maoming did not reported any new domestic positive cases.
    • Foshan did not report any new domestic positive cases. 3 residential compounds remain at Medium Risk.
    • Shenzhen did not report any new domestic positive cases.

    Zhejiang Province reported 1 new domestic asymptomatic case, at Wenzhou. The case is a close contact (child) of the imported confirmed case reported there on 6/9. The imported case and spouse returned from Italy, and had passed through centralized quarantine at Beijing for 21 days and tested negative on RT-PCR 4 times. They flew from Beijing to Wenzhou on 6/1 and entered home quarantine, the imported confirmed case developed symptoms & tested positive on 6/9, & the spoused tested positive on 6/10 was diagnosed as confirmed case. The city reported 1 more domestic asymptomatic case on 6/11, a passenger on the same flight from Beijing to Wenzhou as the two imported positive cases, sitting 2 rose away. So far, 1,364 F1 & F2 close contacts have been traced and place under centralized quarantine, & 92,588 individuals deemed at risk have been swabbed.

    Liaoning Province did not report any new domestic positive cases. There are 3 domestic confirmed & 2 domestic asymptomatic cases at Yingkou.

    In Yunnan Province, there currently are 2 domestic confirmed cases.

    Imported Cases

    On 6/10 China reported 13 new imported confirmed cases, 24 imported asymptomatic cases, 9 imported suspect cases:

    • Xiamen in Fujian Province – 2 confirmed cases, both Chinese nationals returning from Cambodia
    • Fuzhou in Fujian Province – 1 confirmed case (previously asymptomatic), a Chinese national returning from Argentina; 1 asymptomatic cases, coming from Japan
    • Shanghai Municipality – 2 confirmed cases, a Chinese national returning from Japan & a Taiwanese resident coming from Taiwan; 9 suspect cases, no information released
    • Guangzhou in Guangdong Province – 2 confirmed cases (1 previously asymptomatic), both Chinese nationals returning from Cambodia; 2 asymptomatic cases, 1 Chinese national each returning from the DRC & the US
    • Foshan in Guangdong Province – 2 asymptomatic cases, 1 each coming from Djibouti & the US, off flights that landed at Guangzhou
    • Zhaoqing in Guangdong Province – 1 asymptomatic case, coming from Uganda, off a flight that landed at Guangzhou
    • Chengdu in Sichuan Province – 2 confirmed cases, 1 Chinese national each returning from Cambodia & Algeria; 1 asymptomatic case, a Chinese national returning from Cambodia
    • Yunnan Province (location not specified) – 1 confirmed case, a Chinese national returning from Myanmar via land border crossing
    • Wenzhou in Zhejiang Province – 1 confirmed case, a Chinese national returning from Italy, the spouse of the imported confirmed case reported in 6/9, with the same travel history
    • Hangzhou in Zhejiang Province – 7 asymptomatic cases, 4 from Cameroon & 1 each from Yemen, Egypt & Indonesia
    • Yiwu in Jinhua, Zhejiang Province – 1 asymptomatic case, an Iraqi national coming from Iraq (via Tehran); the case arrived at Guangzhou in Guangdong Province on 5/24, went through the 14 days of centralized quarantine and tested negative for RT-PCR multiple times, upon release from quarantine on 6/8 the case flew to Yiwu & re-entered centralized quarantine, tested positive on 6/10
    • Beijing Municipality – 1 confirmed case, a Chinese national returning from Serbia; 1 asymptomatic case, no information released
    • Yangzhou in Jiangsu Province – 1 confirmed case (previously asymptomatic), coming from Egypt
    • Zhengzhou in Henan Province – 4 asymptomatic cases, no information released
    • Xi’an in Shanxi Province – 2 asymptomatic cases, both Chinese nationals returning from Pakistan, off a flight diverted from Beijing
    • Changsha in Hunan Province – 1 asymptomatic case, no information released

    Overall in China, 12 confirmed cases recovered, 13 asymptomatic cases were released from isolation & 4 were reclassified as confirmed cases, and 706 individuals were released from quarantine. Currently, there are 426 active confirmed cases in the country (288 imported), 12 in serious condition (1 imported), 379 asymptomatic cases (358 imported), 10 suspect case (both imported). 11,028 traced contacts are currently 

    As of 6/10, 845.299M vaccine doses have been injected in Mainland China, an increase of 20.443M doses in the past 24 hrs. 622M individuals have taken at least 1 shot.

    On 6/11, Hong Kong did not report any new positive cases.

  8. 8.

    mrmoshpotato

    @Mary G: Points off for the organizers not calling it Bitcon (We steal stupid people’s money.)

    ETA – bite me, autoincorrect

  9. 9.

    Lacuna Synecdoche

    @NeenerNeener:

    Monroe County, NY stats:

    23 new cases – 65.2% were people under 40, including 9 children between 0 and 19. Children under 10 had the most cases. 65.2% of the cases were also female. …

    … 58.2% have had at least 1 shot

    52.4% are totally vaccinated

    Is that 52.4% stat the percentage of vaccinations for the whole county, or is it just the percentage of the new cases that were vaccinated?

    If the latter, any word on which vaccines the infected were given, and why so high a rate? Is it the alpha or delta variant?

  10. 10.

    Amir Khalid

    Malaysia’s Director-General of Heath Dr Noor Hisham Abdullah reports 6,849 new Covid-19 cases today in his media statement, for a cumulative reported total of 646,411 cases. He also reports 84 new deaths today, for a cumulative total of 3,768 deaths — 0.58% of the cumulative reported total, 0.66% of resolved cases.

    There are currently 78,864 active and contagious cases; 912 are in ICU, 458 of them intubated. Meanwhile, 7,749 more patients have recovered, for a cumulative total of 563,779 patients recovered – 87.22% of the cumulative reported total.

    16 new clusters were reported today.

    6,845 new cases today are local infections. Selangor reports 2,554 local cases: 979 in clusters, 1,163 close-contact screenings, and 412 other screenings. Kuala Lumpur reports 884 cases: 65 in clusters, 552 close-contact screenings, and 267 other screenings.

    Sarawak reports 699 cases: 90 in clusters, 441 close-contact screenings, and 168 other screenings. Negeri Sembilan reports 685 cases: 426 in clusters, 220 close-contact screenings, and 39 other screenings.

    Johor reports 426 cases: 178 in clusters, 172 close-contact screenings, and 76 other screenings.

    Sabah reports 309 cases: 90 in clusters, 144 close-contact screenings, and 75 other screenings.

    Kelantan reports 248 cases: 29 in clusters, 169 close-contact screenings, and 50 other screenings. Penang reports 205 cases: 81 in clusters, 69 close-contact screenings, and 55 other screenings.
    Labuan reports 176 cases: 34 in clusters,78 close-contact screenings, and64 other screenings. Melaka reports 170 cases: 54 in clusters, 87 close-contact screenings, and 29 other screenings. Perak reports 161 cases: 102 in clusters, 42 close-contact screenings, and 17 other screenings. Kedah also reports 161 cases: 11 in clusters, 96 close-contact screenings, and 54 other screenings.

    Pahang reports 89 cases: 38 in clusters, 40 close-contact screenings, and 11 other screenings. Terengganu reports 66 cases: five in clusters, 37 close-contact screenings, and 24 other screenings. Putrajaya reports 10 cases: four in clusters, five close-contact screenings, and one other screening. Perlis reports two cases, both found in other screenings.

    Four new cases today are imported, all in Selangor.

  11. 11.

    YY_Sima Qian

    According to Chinese health experts, characteristics of infection and disease caused by the Delta variant include much higher viral loading among the patients, leading to shorter incubation period (3.2  days on average, compared to 5.9 days on average for other variants) and longer time required for patients to test negative and recover. CT counts for an RT-PCR test to detect SARS-CoV-2 virus in the sample is an indication of viral load. Typical infected cases have CT counts between 25 – 30. Those with CT counts > 30 are not very infectious. However, cases with the Delta variant (even asymptomatic) typically have CT counts around 20. There is concern that the infectious periods of patients w/ the Delta variant could be longer, as well.

    Transmission can occur even through indirect, casual contact. The only direct/indirect intersection between two clusters of cases was when they ate at the same restaurant at the same time. However, they sat several tables away from each other, and the people in between were not infected. This strongly suggests aerosol transmission influenced by AC air flow. R0 of other variants range between 2 – 3.2, but R0 during the Guangzhou outbreak reached a peak of > 6 on 5/29 (though the estimated R0 may have large error bars due to, thankfully, still very small data set).

    Guangdong Province has served as the main entry point for visitors and returnees into China, accounting for ~ 90% of all entries. There are > 300 centralized quarantine sites, staffed by > 20K personnel, w/ ~ 30K visitors/returnees under quarantine on any given day.

  12. 12.

    Patricia Kayden

    Of course, Conservatives are against private businesses using vaccination passports because they’re anti-science.  Unfortunately, after cruise ships caved in to DeSantis’ anti-vaccination legislation, I expect other businesses to do the same.

  13. 13.

    prostratedragon

    It’s so nice having an actual government:

    US orders healthcare worker protections after thousands die
    The rules require workers to wear N95 or reusable respirators when in contact with people with either suspected or confirmed Covid. They strengthen employer record-keeping requirements, saying employers must document all worker Covid cases (regardless of whether they were deemed work-related) and report work-related deaths even if they occur more than 30 days after exposure.

    According to the Guardian’s count, 3600 U.S. health care workers have died of COVID.

  14. 14.

    Amir Khalid

    The National Security Council has announced that the current lockdown — Movement Control Order 3.0 — is extended for two weeks, to 28th June. No surprise there.

  15. 15.

    Ken

    The highly infectious Delta variant, which was first identified in India,

    This is exactly how I expected the “Greek letters, not country of origin” plan to work out.

  16. 16.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    The media is fabricating a plot-twist narrative that scientists & the media thought a lab-leak was impossible & now they think it’s possible. As Fauci tells WSJ: “That is an accusation that I have to tell you, is preposterous”

    The problem of the age in a nutshell. The media created a problem and when the experts push back the attitude is “That’s just your opinion dude”. Small wonder we end up with all these absurd conspiracy theories.

  17. 17.

    Robert Sneddon

    @Ken: India is not necessarily the country where the Delta variant originated, it’s the place it was first identified which is something different, given the amount of international travel going on especially in countries with very large populations. Someone somewhere was Patient Zero for the Delta variant, we don’t know who that was and exactly where the COVID-19 virus mutated/evolved into the Delta variant and we probably will never know. Delta is out there and noticeably more infectious than previous variants and we have to deal with that situation now.

  19. 19.

    Bruce K in ATH-GR

    Greece: the numbers continue to drop. Reporters didn’t say a word yesterday because of a general strike, but the government reported 781 new cases and 24 dead on June 10.  The peak on March 30 was 4322 new cases. Reopening continues in stages.

    As for the issues of providing vaccines, I know it sounds heartless, but I keep remembering the instructions given out on airplane flights: if the oxygen mask comes down, make sure your own mask is secure, and only then help your neighbors with their masks. For a long time, the US desperately needed to get its house in order with regard to vaccinations – it’s only in the past couple of months that there’s sufficient domestic availability that donation becomes sensible, and vaccine production is supposed to be kind of closer to farming than manufacturing, right?

  20. 20.

    Ken

    @Robert Sneddon: I was referring to the idea that reporters would switch over to the Greek letters and stop mentioning countries.  There may be a few out there who are carefully saying

    The Delta variant now makes up 8% of US cases

    but the vast majority are writing

    The Delta variant, first reported in India, now makes up 8% of US cases

  21. 21.

    Citizen_X

    You assume that the only parties here are the passengers, not the cruise line, which has substantial business risks at stake.

    The crew is expendable, of course. Doesn’t even merit a mention.

  22. 22.

    Robert Sneddon

    Scotland — 1,104 new cases of COVID-19 reported, test positivity  rate of 4.1%. No new deaths reported.
    The case number reported yesterday had an undercount of 150-200 cases due to a change in how one of the big Lighthouse labs processes tests. It’s not clear if today’s numbers include those delayed cases or whether they’re still playing catch-up. Hospitalisations continue to creep up slowly by one or two admissions a day.

    Nearly 48,000 vaccinations were administered in Scotland yesterday, still running at about 60% second-dose. The Scottish government is worried about a future lack of Pfizer vaccines which are recommended for under-40s due to the reported occurrences of blood clots after AstraZeneca vaccinations. They’re pressuring the UK government on this issue but England and the other nations are in the same boat with respect to demand for the only available mRNA vaccine in use here. The Moderna mRNA vaccine has also been approved for use here in the UK but it’s not being delivered in any quantity yet.

    In the UK the Delta variant is now responsible for over 90% of all new cases, according to the UK Health minister. The recent hospitalisations and deaths in the UK are mostly of people who are either unvaccinated or have only had one dose of vaccine. From the BBC website:

    Out of 33,000 cases analysed by PHE and confirmed to be the Delta variant since February, 223 have been admitted to hospital – most were unvaccinated or had only one dose, and 20 people were fully vaccinated.
    And of 42 deaths in people with Delta variant infections, 23 were unvaccinated and seven had received only one dose. The other 12 had received two doses more than two weeks before.​

  23. 23.

    NotMax

    Have been tracking the numbers out of UAE for a while. which have been puzzling.

    While many countries, including the US, Israel and many in Europe, have been able to cut back on strict anti-coronavirus measures due to successful vaccination campaigns, other countries, including Bahrain and the United Arab Emirates, that have depended on China’s Sinopharm vaccine are suffering from a sharp rise in new infections.

    Bahrain and the UAE are among the top 10 countries in the world in vaccinations per capita.
    [snip]
    Authorities in Bahrain and the UAE said late last week that a booster shot of the Pfizer vaccine would be administered to people who had not come down with the coronavirus, six months after they received the second dose of the Sinopharm vaccine, starting with front-line workers, the elderly and those with preconditions that make the virus more dangerous. Source

  24. 24.

    Sloane Ranger

    Thursday in the UK we had 7393 new cases. This is an increase of 63.2% in the rolling 7-day average. New cases by nation,

    England – 6436 (up 235)

    Northern Ireland – 109 (up 4)

    Scotland – 735 (down 276) but see update from Robert Sneddon above.

    Wales – 113 (down 110).

    Deaths – There were 7 deaths within 28 days of a positive test yesterday. This is an increase of 1.9% in the rolling 7-day average. 5 deaths occurred in England and Scotland and Wales had 1 each.

    Testing – 1,085,999 tests were conducted on Wednesday, 9 June. This is an increase of 22.1% in the rolling 7-day average. The PCR testing capacity reported by labs on that date was 573,366.

    Hospitalisations – On Tuesday, 8 June there were 1048 people in hospital. There were 158 people on ventilators on Wednesday, 9th. The rolling 7-day average for hospital admissions has increased by 7.1%.

    Vaccinations – As of 9 June, 40,886,878 people had received 1 shot of a vaccine and 28,857,102 had had both. In percentage terms this means that 77.6% of all adults in the UK have had 1 shot and 54.8 were fully vaccinated.

    General – Monday, 21 June was planned as the date all remaining restrictions in England would be lifted. Boris is due to make an announcement this coming Monday on whether this will still go ahead. I have to say that, given the current state of affairs, I would be shocked if it were. From my perspective, I booked a week in Derbyshire starting on 21st a while back, when things were going in the right direction, thinking I would have a “normal” holiday. I’m fully vaccinated so I’m still going but I will be still be masking and social distancing, even if Boris is stupid enough to say they’re no longer mandatory.

  25. 25.

    YY_Sima Qian

    @NotMax: By now it should be obvious that Chinese inactivated whole virus vaccines have lower efficacies than the mRNA vaccines, especially when it comes to sterilizing efficacy (preventing transmission). However, they are not far off in terms of efficacies in preventing hospitalizations and deaths. One can see this in the deaths versus cases data on Worldometer for Chile, Seychelles and the UAE, often cited in western MSM to throw doubt on Chinese vaccines. So, they are not the best in class, but for the vast majority of the world they are the best available, and far better than not having any vaccines. They also have the benefit of long term storage at 2 – 8 degrees C. Funny that western MSM reports rarely compare other western vaccines (AZ/Oxford or J&J/Janssen) to the mRNA vaccines to question their usefulness. The efficacies of these vaccines are much more similar to the Chinese inactivated whole virus vaccines. In fact, the single shot J&J/Janssen appears to have lower efficacy (though similar to the single shot Chinese CanSino vaccine).

    Articles questioning Chinese vaccines always have “Chinese vaccines” in the title. However, articles that report on the study conducted at town of Serrano in Sao Paolo State, where very high vaccination rate with the Sinovac vaccine has collapsed case incidence/hospitalization/deaths, never state that a Chinese vaccine is used there. Sinovac normally is not mentioned until 3 paragraphs in.

    Keep in mind that there is not necessarily any correlation between free press and truthful/useful press. I having been consuming American/UK/Taiwanese/Hong Kong MSM for decades, and I have been increasing convinced that there is no correlation. Free press/speech means the truth is generally out to be sought, for those determined to seek it. However, they are often buried under mountains of bias/myopia/BS.

  26. 26.

    YY_Sima Qian

    @Robert Sneddon: @Sloane Ranger:

    So, there has been a surge in cases in the UK due to the Delta variant, but in deaths. Does that mean the AZ/Oxford vaccines are still effective in preventing hospitalizations & deaths, even if sterilization efficacy has taken a hit with the variant?

  28. 28.

    Uncle Cosmo

    @Ken: Of course they’re writing typing that: Associating the nasty ole COVID with goldang furriners (extra credit allotted per darkness of skin) gets (white imbeciles’**) eyeballs on the page, and that’s all they (and their employers, and the plutocrats bankrolling them) give a frying flock about.

    ** White imbeciles are the easiest of all demographics to sell stupid shit to. Viz. the advertising content of FauxNoise, NooSmacks, and the Obvious Aryan Nutjobs Notwork – MyPillow not even the most egregious amongst them.

  29. 29.

    Robert Sneddon

    @YY_Sima Qian: Over 95% of the UK population aged over 60 is now fully 2-dose immunised and 90% of those between 40 and 60 have received at least one dose of vaccine. There’s no noticeable vaccine hesitancy here in the UK. There are of course some people who are immunocompromised and can’t be safey vaccinated and some more where the vaccine didn’t “catch”.

     

    The result is that new COVID-19 cases in the UK are occurring mainly in the younger cohorts who tend not to have comorbidities that result in hospitalisation and deaths compared to the first two big pre-vaccine waves last year when the average age of severe ICU cases and deaths was in the upper-70s. It’s being reported that some vaccinated people do come down with severe cases but they’re rare, part of the not-100% effectiveness factor already identified in the original vaccine trials.

     

    Trials are already being run here in the UK on a booster shot program, the results of that trial should be out in the autumn in time to make a decision whether a booster shot program will go ahead through the winter, hopefully preventing or reducing the further spread of this disease when the weather turns cold.

  30. 30.

    Fair Economist

    @Lacuna Synecdoche:

    Forgot to add: Like all-expenses paid lifetime vacation cruises?

    If Florida succeeds in banning vax passports, lifetime cruises may get pretty short.

  31. 31.

    NotMax

    @YY_Sima Qian

    Trouble with trying to tease data out of UAE reportage is the sharp division on COVID policy* between native population and resident population, which is all but invisible in the raw numbers.

    UAE per capita vaccination, for example, is nearly triple that of the U.S. but whether that is in aggregate or just statistically derived from citizens is murky.

    It’s the seeming clash between cases reported in contrast to vaccinations reported which first caught my eye and continues to do so.

    *One example is the ban on entry (just extended yet again) from India or for anyone who has transited through India within the past 14 days, which for all intents and purposes by official edict does not apply to native UAE population. Another is the already extant mix ‘n’ match of vaccines, with first shot being Sinopharm and second shot being Pfizer (AstraZeneca now also approved to be added to the options), which casts a further cloud on determination of the depth of the situation.

    Also, in lieu of a so-called vaccine passport there’s now the al Hosn app, potentially a stimulus to further stratifying populace.

  32. 32.

    Fair Economist

    @Robert Sneddon: The UK resurgence is just starting; it takes about 3 weeks for the deaths to catch up. The deaths will be lower due to the overwhelmingly young unvaxxed population but hospitalizations will still get high and if the hospitals get overwhelmed even the young die at substantial rates.

  33. 33.

    Sloane Ranger

    @YY_Sima Qian:

     

    So, there has been a surge in cases in the UK due to the Delta variant, but in deaths. Does that mean the AZ/Oxford vaccines are still effective in preventing hospitalizations & deaths, even if sterilization efficacy has taken a hit with the variant?

    The answer is we don’t know …yet.

    It has been shown that the AstraZeneca vaccine is less effective than the Pfizer one but I can’t find any information about which vaccine the fully vaccinated people had or any personal information about them, so we don’t know what, if any, underlying conditions they might have had. Hopefully the boffins have this information and can form some conclusions.

  34. 34.

    Robert Sneddon

    @Fair Economist: We’re not seeing the hospitalisation numbers soar and they typically lead deaths by a substantial margin. At the moment Scotland has about 120 people with COVID-19 hospitalised, about 13 or so in ICU. This is up from something like 70 beds and 6 ICU occupancies from last month when the case rate was 200 a day or so. During the winter peak there 240 hospital admissions a day and thousands of beds in use to deal with COVID-19 sufferers.

  35. 35.

    YY_Sima Qian

    @NotMax: Yeah, the UAE hasn’t been all that transparent with data. They had only provided the general efficacy numbers for the Stage III trial for the SinoPharm vaccines conducted there. I had thought the UAE has been vaccinating their “guest” workers with the SinoPharm vaccines. We also do not know how many of the cases are imported, I think they had opened up for tourism & business travelers, minus India. This is also problematic for data out of the Seychelles.

  36. 36.

    Barbara

    @YY_Sima Qian: ​I have seen nothing to directly compare J&J with the other vaccines built using the same technology, and it’s probably going to be really hard to tease out the answer. In theory, J&J, Sputnik, AZ, and Sinopharm should all perform with similar efficacy because they are built using the same tried and true technology.

    I agree that it’s a little maddening to focus on the country of origin instead of the vaccine technology. Before the potential for side effects became the main story about J&J, there definitely were reports on the efficacy profile of all three vaccines approved in the U.S., and it was noted that J&J was less effective in reducing infection rate, but equally effective in forestalling serious disease, hospitalization and death. There were even some public officials who refused J&J vaccines because “their voters” deserved only the best.

    At least in U.S., J&J is being affirmatively preferred only for mass vaccination events and people who might be hard to reach for a second shot. The fact that so many people are getting the mRNA vaccines is probably going to make it even harder to do a comparison. It’s much easier to extrapolate when the population is using only a single vaccine type. So J&J is no doubt benefiting from the fact that it is being used alongside a vaccine that might be more effective — which means that the population overall is going to have a lower incidence of disease, which will redound to the benefit of those getting a hypothetically less efficacious J&J vaccine.​

  37. 37.

    J R in WV

    I switched from industrial dust respirator with terrific stats on particulate filtration to standard 3 layer surgical style masks about half way through the epidemic, when a neighbor gave me a hard time about the unfiltered exhaust valve on the 3M respirator….

    Even though the 3M device is heavier than the lightweight surgical masks, it’s more comfortable in many ways, and doesn’t fog my glasses. It filters so well I can’t smell blue smoke from old chevy truck, nor onions in the grocery store for ripeness sniff test.

    Now that masks are no longer required, people (almost certainly many not vaccinated as WV, which started really well is no longer in the group of well-vaccinated states, is in the bottom now, again!) are not wearing masks. I believe we are in for another surge of cases, and don’t want to be in the group. I’m fully vaccinated, but am also old and DO NOT want flu or a summer cold.

    My 3M respirator will probably prevent either of those infections, plus will probably prevent infection by Covid-19 Delta, which looks to be a really bad problem looming in our future. Had considered flying somewhere for a vacation, not any more. People appear to be bound and determined to screw up this pandemic, no matter that we have the tools to stop it dead in its tracks.

    Amazed by the group insanity, disbelief in science, etc. When the next pandemic rolls around, if it has more lethality than Covid-19, all of those crazed RWNJ antivaxers are going to die. Mass graves dug with heavy equipment, reefer trucks for morgues, the works.​

    I am glad we took the opportunity to go out for our 50th wedding anniversary for dinner at our favorite restaurant, which appears to be doing OK in spite of the plague. Won’t be doing much more of that unless things improve greatly in the near future. Sorry for the doom gloom forecast… but there it is.

  38. 38.

    VOR

    @Ken: the 1918 Influenza pandemic became known as the “Spanish Flu” because some of the first public reports came from Spain. Much of the rest of the world was involved in World War 1 and had either media restrictions or a lot of people dying for other reasons. The 1918 influenza did not originate in Spain.

  39. 39.

    YY_Sima Qian

    On 6/11 China reported 8 new domestic confirmed & 1 new domestic asymptomatic cases.

    Guangdong Province reported 8 new domestic confirmed & 0 new domestic asymptomatic cases.

    • Guangzhou reported 8 new domestic confirmed cases, 7 at the epicenter sub-district in Liwan District & 1 at Nansha District, all are traced close contracts already under centralized quarantine. 2 sub-districts & 2 residential compounds were elevated to Medium Risk. 2 sub-districts remain at High Risk, 5 sub-districts & 9 residential compounds are at Medium Risk.

    Zhejiang Province reported 1 new domestic asymptomatic case, at Wenzhou,, a passenger on the same flight from Beijing to Wenzhou as the two imported positive cases reported on 6/9 & 6/10, sitting 2 rose away. There currently are 2 domestic asymptomatic cases in the city.

    Liaoning Province did not report any new domestic positive cases. There are 3 domestic confirmed & 2 domestic asymptomatic cases at Yingkou.

    In Yunnan Province, there currently are 2 domestic confirmed cases, both at Ruili in. Dehong Prefecture.

    Imported Cases

    On 6/11 China reported 27 new imported confirmed cases, 26 imported asymptomatic cases, 1 imported suspect case:

    • Shanghai Municipality – 8 confirmed cases, 2 Chinese nationals returning from the US & 1 each from Senegal (via Paris CdG), Djibouti (via Addis Ababa), Thailand, Taiwan the UK (via Amsterdam Schiphol) & Israel; 1 suspect case, no information released
    • Yunnan Province (location not specified) – 5 confirmed cases, all Chinese national returning from Myanmar via land border crossing
    • Kunming in Yunnan Province – 1 confirmed & 1 asymptomatic cases, both Chinese nationals returning from Cambodia
    • Lianyungang Port in Jiangsu Province – 3 confirmed cases, all Chinese crew members off a cargo ship with last port of call in the Philippines
    • Yangzhou in Jiangsu Province – 1 confirmed case, coming from Argentina
    • Jiangsu Province (location not specified) – 1 asymptomatic case, no information released
    • Guangzhou in Guangdong Province – 2 confirmed cases (1 previously asymptomatic), 1 Chinese national each returning from Niger (via Istanbul) & Cambodia; 4 asymptomatic cases, 1 Chinese national each returning from the Bangladesh, Cambodia, Liberia (via Istanbul) & Zambia (via Dubai)
    • Shenzhen in Guangdong Province – 1 confirmed case, a Chinese national returning from South Africa; 4 asymptomatic cases, 3 Chinese nationals returning from South Africa & 1 from Thailand
    • Zhongshan in Guangdong Province – 1 confirmed case (previously asymptomatic), coming from the UAE, off a flight that landed at Guangzhou
    • Dongguan in Guangdong Province – 1 asymptomatic case, coming from the Maldives, off a flight that landed at Guangzhou
    • Zhaoqing in Guangdong Province – 1 asymptomatic case, coming from Mozambique, off a flight that landed at Guangzhou
    • Beijing Municipality – 1 confirmed case, a Chinese national returning from Greece; 1 asymptomatic case, no information released
    • Chengdu in Sichuan Province – 1 confirmed case, a Chinese national returning from Myanmar; 3 asymptomatic case, 2 Chinese nationals returning from Algeria & 1 from Ghana (via Amsterdam Schiphol)
    • Tianjin Municipality – 1 confirmed case, a Chinese national returning from the Philippines; 1 asymptomatic case, a Chinese national returning from France
    • Xi’an in Shanxi Province – 1 confirmed & 3 asymptomatic cases, all Chinese nationals returning from Uzbekistan, off a flight diverted from Beijing
    • Xiamen in Fujian Province – 1 confirmed case, a Chinese national returning from Ireland; 2 asymptomatic cases, a Chinese national returning from Japan & an Indian crew member off a cargo ship with last port of call in Indonesia
    • Fuzhou in Fujian Province – 1 asymptomatic cases, coming from Japan
    • Shenyang in Liaoning Province – 1 asymptomatic case, no information released
    • Ningbo in Zhejiang Province – 1 asymptomatic case, a Filipino crew member off a cargo ship with last port of call in South Korea
    • Zhengzhou in Henan Province – 1 asymptomatic case, no information released

    Overall in China, 15 confirmed cases recovered, 21 asymptomatic cases were released from isolation & 2 were reclassified as confirmed cases, and 807 individuals were released from quarantine. Currently, there are 446 active confirmed cases in the country (302 imported), 12 in serious condition (1 imported), 383 asymptomatic cases (361 imported), 11 suspect case (both imported). 11,116 traced contacts are currently 

    As of 6/11, 863.513M vaccine doses have been injected in Mainland China, an increase of 18.214M doses in the past 24 hrs.

    On 6/12, Hong Kong reported 3 new positive cases, all imported.

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