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Lick the third rail, it tastes like chocolate!

If you are still in the gop, you are either an extremist yourself, or in bed with those who are.

“woke” is the new caravan.

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We’ve had enough carrots to last a lifetime. break out the sticks.

There is no right way to do the wrong thing.

Our job is not to persuade republicans but to defeat them.

GOP baffled that ‘we don’t care if you die’ is not a winning slogan.

Shallow, uninformed, and lacking identity

With all due respect and assumptions of good faith, please fuck off into the sun.

Live so that if you miss a day of work people aren’t hoping you’re dead.

Let’s delete this post and never speak of this again.

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One of our two political parties is a cult whose leader admires Vladimir Putin.

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Fuck these fucking interesting times.

I’d like to think you all would remain faithful to me if i ever tried to have some of you killed.

Republicans: “Abortion is murder but you can take a bus to get one.” Easy peasy.

Republicans do not trust women.

A norm that restrains only one side really is not a norm – it is a trap.

I did not have this on my fuck 2025 bingo card.

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If ‘weird’ was the finish line, they ran through the tape and kept running.

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  3. 3.

    lowtechcyclist

    Only 10% said it was the war in Afghanistan

    And it would have been more like 2% if the media hadn’t gone apeshit.

  5. 5.

    OzarkHillbilly

    Idrees Ali
    @idreesali114
    · 9h
    Less than 40% of Americans approve of President Biden’s handling of the military withdrawal from Afghanistan, and three quarters wanted forces to remain in the country until all American civilians could get out, according to a Reuters/Ipsos opinion poll. https://reut.rs/3yuxF9e

    And chances are the 100-200 Americans still there would have dawdled to the last minute anyway and still missed the bus.

  7. 7.

    Kay

    @GlennKesslerWP
    ·14h
    American University of Afghanistan is denying a NYT story that said the university president said the US military shared a list of names and passport info with the Taliban. “The Times report is false. AUAF’s president made no such a statement,” statement says, asking for correx.

  9. 9.

    OzarkHillbilly

    Repeating myself for those who don’t read the Covid threads:

    @raven: Yep, still haven’t been able to talk to the NOLA boy but via a friend of a friend of his MiL’s on facebook my eldest son has received word that they are OK. They lost some of their roofing which let water in, causing their bedroom ceiling to collapse but AFAIK no other damage to their home.

    Safe to assume they have no power and I wonder about water and sewer. Hopefully we will be able to talk in the next day or 2 and I can assess what help they might need and whether or not I can provide it from up here or if I can get down there.

  13. 13.

    Kay

    Good explanation of what happens in an evacuation and why some people wait until the last minute,

    Elizabeth Shackelford
    For family, business, humanitarian or other conflict-related work. Some work in security. Most want to be on last safe flight out possible. All had good reasons, but you don’t know when the last one will be, it won’t likely be safe, and only has so many seats. 12/17

  15. 15.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    “America’s Afghan war is over but the battle for Biden’s legacy is only just beginning.” | Analysis by
    @StCollinson https://cnn.it/3gL4RDo

    God damn, how do you parody nonsense like that? LOL Yes, CNN, one event that only 10% of the population cares about will define the Biden Administration.  CNN hasn’t gone Fox, they’ve gone Onion.

  18. 18.

    Geminid

    According to the Jerusalem Post, Kabul saw a lot of celebratory gun fire when the last U.S. C-17 flew out. And our troops started the fireworks early at the airport, when they “rendered inoperable” a few dozen aircraft and MRAPs. They kept an anti-mortar and rocket system operating until the last few minutes, then destroyed it also.

  20. 20.

    NotMax

    FYI (from July).

    Sens. Tammy Duckworth, D-Ill., and John Cornyn, R-Texas, introduced a bill […] that would establish a secure electronic voting system for those assigned to hazardous duty stations or on a rotational deployment.
    [snip]
    The proposal follows an executive order signed March 7 by President Joe Biden that required the Defense Department to establish an “end-to-end tracking system” for all absentee ballots cast by military personnel and Americans living overseas.
    [snip]
    Similar legislation was introduced in the House earlier this year by Reps. Andy Kim, D-N.J., and Joe Wilson, R-S.C.
    [snip]
    Military absentee votes were among those challenged in the numerous lawsuits following the 2020 presidential election. In Nevada, representatives for President Donald Trump filed a lawsuit over more than 3,000 ballots they alleged were improperly cast. Source

  21. 21.

    Betty Cracker

    My grandfather retired from the USAF and worked for Bell Helicopter all over the world, including in Iran. He was among the last Americans evacuated from that country during the revolution, and I remember him telling me what a complete shit-show it was. He torched his own car!

  27. 27.

    Kay

    @Enhanced Voting Techniques:

    I think they’re deliberately muddling it up because they’re advocates- they want to get certain Afghans out so are portraying it as unfair or incompetent denials when really they started this thing with 34,500 visas available under the Afghan allies act so that was always the highest number leaving that way.

    Anything past that 34.5 they’re using some other method, parole or some emergency intervention by someone powerful (member of Congress, etc). The 34.5 does not include immediate family members, so add them (estimate) and you’re at 70-75.

    But they all knew it was 34, 500. That’s the number Congress authorized. Biden’s actual charge was get 34,500 Afghan’s out and their immediate family members. The rest is advocacy.

  32. 32.

    Soprano2

    Do people think Americans somehow register with the American embassy every time they go to a foreign country? I’ve travelled overseas several times, and we never did anything like that. It’s hard to know how many Americans there are in any country. I think under the circumstances the evacuation went extremely well, with minimal loss of life. I would challenge the people who are so critical to say what they think could have been done better. I’m sure there’s something, because there’s always something that could have been better.

    Is it just me, or did politicians not used to call for the impeachment of those in the opposite party every time they were unhappy with something they did? It seems to me this started when George W. was president. Am I misremembering? It does seem that Republicans really, really, really want Kamala Harris to become president, because she’s a lot easier for them to attack. I looked at some of my  mother’s political mail. One mailer was about all the “racists” in the Biden administration. Of course, all but one of them were women, and most were women of color. One was Rachel Levine, of course.  The one man was Anthony Blinken. I’ve also noticed that conservatives are working hard to promote their few non-white candidates. I saw quite a bit of mail about black Republicans.

  35. 35.

    cmorenc

    CNN has gone all-in on Biden-Bashing today with FOX-like lead story headlines:   “America’s messy retreat raises questions about Biden’s Leadership”…”The coming weeks are likely to offer an even more unflattering account of Biden’s failures than the one that happened in real time”.

  36. 36.

    sherparick1

    @sixthdoctor: Actually, compared to other catastrophes, the end was only soured by one suicide bombing attack. Now Pakistan, having put the Taliban back in power after 20 years, is suddenly like the dog that caught the car.

  39. 39.

    narya

    @raven: Oh FFS. The main reason I avoid so much of the news is exactly this. Last night Chris Hayes pointed out just how impressive this evacuation has been (he’s been pretty steady on that, actually). It’s not a cause for whooping and dancing, and service members and other people have died, but it has gone so much better than I hoped or imagined. Basically, it was another trap set by TFG that ended up letting us see what fking COMPETENCE looks like, but the media mostly hates that narrative. Competence is booorrrring. It’s not boring to ME, I must add.

  42. 42.

    Immanentize

    @OzarkHillbilly:
    I’m joining you. Besides the house damage, it sounds like he got through with life and limb and loved ones? Im thinking N.O. and your youngest are a mix that might be best separated. If only to save you the sleepless nights.

  44. 44.

    Kay

    And Congress returned repeatedly to the Afghan Allies Act. They amended it over and over. They broadened the whole category in 2014. They added 8000 visas in June of this year. So for there to be this shock and outrage at this point is just more ass-covering. If they were operating under the assumption that Biden wouldn’t actually go thru with it it looks like they guessed wrong.

  45. 45.

    Immanentize

    @Kay:

    they guessed wrong.

    There you have it. Old devout Irish Catholic gent could not be cowed or rolled.

  46. 46.

    germy

    Now we can focus on the war at home.

    It’s official: The Jan. 6 select committee has asked 35 telecommunications and social media companies to retain material from individuals involved in organizing ‘Stop the Steal’ rallies or who participated in challenging the election certification process.https://t.co/Cb90nIZLxt

    — Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) August 31, 2021

  49. 49.

    The Moar You Know

    Not over yet.  The AUMF needs to be formally revoked, I think, or the next GOP dipshit (and a few Dems I can think of) that attains the presidency can start this all over again.

  51. 51.

    Peale

    @Kay: I’m going to guess that there’s a nearly 100% overlap between the Afghanistan shriekers and those who wanted Trump to tear up the Iran deal. They expected Biden to do the same. They probably went ape over the withdrawal from Iraq, too. They probably don’t see themselves as imperialists. They just assume that the natural order of things is that we occupy countries indefinitely out of our paternal love for other people.

  52. 52.

    germy

    Trump's serial horrors never stayed in the headlines for more than 24 hours. Why? Because he immediately moved on to new horrors. Because the Biden admin is basically calm & competent, hysterical Afghanistan coverage can dominate for days/weeks. Great incentive system, media.

    — David Roberts (@drvolts) August 30, 2021

  53. 53.

    Betty

    Looking forward to the media hysteria calming down very soon. Until the next “catastrophe” of course.

  54. 54.

    BC in Illinois

    Here is the morning “Message from Ann” from Rep. Ann Wagner (R – wherever the wind blows):

    [honor for a Marine from Missouri, killed last week]

    Sadly, Wentzville native Lance Corporal Jared Schmitz was one of the brave Marines who was killed in the terrorist attack in Kabul while working to ensure the safety of those trying to leave Afghanistan.

    [prayers for the family]

    If you know someone in Afghanistan who needs to be evacuated contact my Ballwin office . . .

    If you are a veteran and are struggling with what is going on in Afghanistan right now, you are not alone. . . .

    [bravery of servicemembers in Afghanistan]
    + + +

    Sadly, the tragic events of the Afghanistan withdrawal have shown that President Biden is completely incompetent and has proven himself incapable of responding to this botched mission.  He has already shown he will not take responsibility in a time of crisis when our nation needs swift and forceful action.  Americans need a leader who can respond with strength, and I have lost confidence in President Biden’s ability to do so.  As Vice Ranking Member of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, I am firmly committed to holding President Biden and his Administration accountable.

    For that reason, I cosponsored legislation condemning President Biden for his failed execution of U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan.  The legislation also called on the President to conduct a full accounting of U.S. resources left behind and provide Congress with a report on intelligence gaps.  I also called on President Biden to outline his plans to evacuate Afghan interpreters and others at risk.

    + + +

    Missouri families struggle with skyrocketing inflation,

    Bernie Sanders’s $3.5 trillion socialist spending spree

    Nancy Pelosi and Joe Biden are working hand-in-glove with Bernie Sanders

    amnesty to illegal immigrants

    raise taxes on working families and businesses

    tax employers at one of the world’s highest rates

    give government even more control over your healthcare.

    wildly foolish budget

    $17 trillion in new debt

    dangerous level of inflation

    This woman (R – safe Republican vote) is a reliable weathervane for where the GOP winds are blowing.

  55. 55.

    germy

    The war at home:

    A staffer emailed me yesterday asking if I wanted to buy a bulletproof vest because “it’s now an approved expense by the House.” I didn’t believe she was for real. Turns out she was thinking about people like Cawthorn — NOT even people outside of my office building — BUT inside. https://t.co/xqg3A8IBhQ

    — Rep. Eric Swalwell (@RepSwalwell) August 31, 2021

  59. 59.

    germy

    MTG is complaining about refugees from Afghanistan. She says they’ll bring crime.

    one of the politics things that blows my mind is MTG ran for her seat unopposed because her opponent dropped out after she kept encouraging her fans to threaten him, and… our politicians and horserace press just treated it as a nonevent

    — Senator Bribeluncheon (@FuzzyMarth) August 30, 2021

  60. 60.

    Jeffro

    Jamelle Bouie has a (poorly-titled, but still) great column up in the Times noting that Abbott, DeSantis, Noem, Paul, Cruz, and other GQP leaders are basically pro-Covid in order to try and kneecap President Biden (by sabotaging pandemic recovery, never mind the cost to their own constituents)

    Bouie should follow up with a column reminding voters that these same “leaders” could, in another and far better timeline, be in a race to see who could protect the highest percentage of their constituents.  Their states could be issuing N95s to all students and teachers, for example; or insisting on vaccine AND mask mandates, etc.  But they are doing the opposite, and at this point you have to feel like they’re doing it because Joe, that’s why.

  61. 61.

    germy

    @Jeffro:

    Even Bannon admitted his strategy was “flood the zone with bullshit” because he knew the beltway press couldn’t keep up.

  64. 64.

    Geminid

    @germy: Greene’s opponent dropped out when his divorce left him without a home and he moved to Indiana to stay with relatives. He then tried to restart his campaign but his staff said no, they were moving on. It was a lost cause anyway; since the GA 14th District was created in 2011, no Democrat has come within 30% in a congressional race.

  66. 66.

    Woodrow/asim

    @Peale: They just assume that the natural order of things is that we occupy countries indefinitely out of our paternal love for other people.

    We’ve all grown up with that, implicitly, yes. Richard Engle(sp) is one ripe example of someone who has just fallen, badly, for that model. I’ve got people screaming in my twitter timeline (I follow Tweets from this region + Middle East/North Africa, and have for years) about how we have a “moral duty” to airlift anyone who wants to leave.

    Post-Vietnam, and esp. the Reagan era, set up the American Myth that we never really lose. We’ve absorbed it so brutally that — as we’re seeing now — it’s part of the national narrative, part of how people on many sides of the fence think about the US.

    I guess it was time to rip off that band-aid, to see the American (and UK!) press as what they are — a group eager for wars, and rumors of wars, both for personal and money-making reasons. It was depressing to read an NYTimes article that was supposed to be about alternatives for Biden, and actually find it full of criticisms, and really thin on actual alternatives.

    But the article doesn’t need that. The people promoting this view, know that the American reader barely remembers how ugly pulling out of Iraq was — much less remembers the Soviet situation in Afghanistan. If they don’t talk about the treaty, and how it handcuffed American choices, then the audience won’t have context to critique these articles.

    And the audience won’t consider the ~15 minutes of airtime Afghanistan got for years, before this pullout.

    All that doesn’t matter, because all this media? Is just to re-enforce that America should be #1, and no President should ever allow us to feel bad, for even one minute.

    …I can’t imagine how Jimmy Carter is feeling, right now.

  68. 68.

    montanareddog

    @NotMax: Heh! Nosher Powell. Shame he didn’t knock Shane McGowan’s teeth out when he blatted him.

    I was once taken to an evening card at the Wimbledon greyhound racing track and we went to the pub afterwards which turned out to be Nosher’s. He was propping up the bar on his own, pint in hand, flat cap on his head. This was some 40 years ago and I can still see him in my mind’s eye.  A big, charismatic fellow.

  70. 70.

    Matt McIrvin

    @Jeffro: It worked during the post-2008 recession. During most economic recoveries, government spending goes up to take up slack in the economy. That time around, after the initial federal stimulus, Republican legislators and state governments actually slashed government spending on all levels, and it slowed down the recovery and politically hurt Democrats since by that point Obama was President.

    But the reason it worked so well was probably that a substantial fraction, maybe a majority, of the US population had a backwards idea of the causal links–there was a very popular prior belief that when the economy is bad it’s because the government wasted your tax money. The idea that measures to prevent COVID actually cause COVID… well, some right-wing loons seem to believe something like that but it’s nowhere near a majority belief.

  71. 71.

    Jeffro

    @germy: it’s a huge disadvantage for Democrats to have principles, morals, a sense of shame, policies that help people, etc. IF no other institution (coughTheMediacough) is going to call out Republicans’ lack of the same at every turn.

    Here you go, media, here’s a free story-starter for every bit of news that comes down the pike from now until, well, eternity: “Republicans launched another round of bad-faith attacks and lies about _____ today…”   Just to get those reports off on the right foot.

  72. 72.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    @Kay: The whole “Goal posts are to always to be just out of reach and never achieved” is one of the latest bits bullshit out of the ruling class and a big part of people quitting their jobs right and left. There is a good chance that none of them are even conscious they are moving just changing the numbers.

  73. 73.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    @raven: Go read the NYT Pitchbot on Twitter. There is no difference between that headline what Doug and company are posting.

  74. 74.

    Matt McIrvin

    @cmorenc: There is some kind of story here, about CNN deciding to go hard right (even by median big-mainstream-media standards), and I’d like to know what it is.

  75. 75.

    Matt McIrvin

    @WereBear: It was a Cat 4. The wind damage was as great as predicted. But the big killer in hurricanes is flooding, and New Orleans benefited from the new flood control systems put in place after Katrina. Some surrounding towns were not so lucky.

  76. 76.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    @Jeffro: I am beginning to suspect it’s less the media is pro-Republican and more the Media is Pro-bullshit, and since the Republicans are nothing but bullshit and gaslighting these days the Republicans are more effective with the media than the Democrats are.

  80. 80.

    Woodrow/asim

    @Matt McIrvin: There is some kind of story here, about CNN deciding to go hard right (even by median big-mainstream-media standards), and I’d like to know what it is.

    CNN’s bones as a profit center were built on American War, from 1st Iraq war on. So, it’s not hard-right, so much as an editorial/business function to try to grab some more eyeballs from the thing that seems to always make them money. It’s as myopic as that, esp. given the shallowness of the criticisms being flung at the Biden Administration.

    That, plus: it’s clear many reporters, for reasons I’ll spare too much additional speculation into, have a deep emotional reaction to the sense that America and its allies lost a war, and are leaving people to a hostile regime.

    I think those are the core reasons, moreso than any “raw” political re-alignment of the news media in America.

  81. 81.

    Kay

    Health officials said Monday that outbreaks in schools, especially among those that aren’t requiring masks, are driving the spread of COVID-19 in Arizona’s most populous county.
    Dr. Rebecca Sunenshine, Maricopa County medical director for disease control, said school outbreaks are doubling every week, a rate she said hasn’t been seen previously.
    School that don’t have a mask mandate are also twice as likely to have an outbreak, according to Sunenshine.

    There are other factors, ventilation, etc. so it’s hard to isolate masks but even if masks reduce transmission by 10-20-30 instead of 70% why wouldn’t they at least try?
    It’s just bad faith all the way down with schools. They were screeching when the schools were closed and now they’re screeching when schools do any covid mitigation. They will accept nothing other than exactly what they want.

  82. 82.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @Geminid:@germy:
    There was a reason for the divorce:

    Democrat Kevin Van Ausdal suspended his campaign for “personal and family reasons” on September 11, 2020.[179] It later emerged that he opted to move in with relatives in Indiana after being forced to vacate his house under the terms of a pending divorce. Reportedly, his wife divorced him because of death threats they were receiving. He did not have enough money to pay for a place to live while the divorce was pending, and federal campaign finance law does not allow candidates to use campaign funds for housing. As a result, Van Audsal was forced to move out of Georgia, which made him ineligible for the seat. House candidates are required to at least live in the state they wish to represent.[180][181]

  83. 83.

    Matt McIrvin

    @Woodrow/asim: To some extent I’m seeing a kind of reversion to the pre-Trump media/politics world. There are stories that can be fit into templates familiar to old reporters: “Democrats are feckless weaklings”/”Republicans are tough daddies”, etc.

    The remarkable thing to me is how seamlessly the people who were recently going on about “Donald the Dove, Hillary the Hawk” have readjusted.

  84. 84.

    p.a.

    Well on the bright side (boy I feel uncomfortable brightsiding), the small uptick in crime got no OMGOMG traction in the poll.  Assuming crime was included…

  85. 85.

    EmbraceYourInnerCrone

    @OzarkHillbilly: exactly. I feel for those Americans still there, but at least some chose to stay. I can not remember her name but Chris Cupmo was interviewing a woman during his “Americans Left Behind!!!” piece in the last few days and the woman said she was choosing to stay.

  86. 86.

    Kay

    @Enhanced Voting Techniques:

    There is a good chance that none of them are even conscious

    Oh, they’re “conscious” all right. I’m an advocate. I do it for a living. They’re not giving you specific numbers because the specific numbers get in the way of their narrative, which is “Joe Biden abandoned Afghan allies”. It’s why you can’t pin them down on categories either. “Allies” are a specific category in the visa section of the law. It’s not just “people who helped us”. It’s a category with a number.

  87. 87.

    Kay

    @Enhanced Voting Techniques:

    I’m pro refugee and pro immigration. If they think the “allies” category for Afghans should have been broader and bigger they can push for that to their heart’s content. A little late to be pushing for it, but whatever. But they know what it is. They know it’s not a moving target.

  88. 88.

    germy

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    Yes, and I’ll wager that if a Republican opponent of a Democratic candidate dropped out of a race because of death threats, it would be the lead story on every network.  For weeks.

  89. 89.

    catclub

    @Jeffro: and other GQP leaders are basically pro-Covid in order to try and kneecap President Biden (by sabotaging pandemic recovery, never mind the cost to their own constituents)

     

    They are also doing this so that Trump’s disaster year of covid does not look as bad compared to 2021. Killing their own constituents to own the libs.

  91. 91.

    MontyTheClipArtMongoose

    @Enhanced Voting Techniques: in 2024, el jefe will run for the gqp nomination touting himself as the one who will end the continued american forever war in afghanistan… & ohio dinergoers will agree, telling sulzberger advertiser writers it’s time to bring home their neighbors’s sons & daughters in kandahar

  93. 93.

    MontyTheClipArtMongoose

    @sherparick1: expect sulzberger advertiser stories like “how what imran khan learned from cricket will help pakistan address the taliban”

  95. 95.

    Mike in NC

    Local rag features weekly op-ed by a far-right piece of shit named Jay Ambrose. He wanted to stay in Afghanistan forever to defeat the Taliban blah blah blah. I wrote to his AOL account to tell him to go fuck himself.

  99. 99.

    WaterGirl

    @Matt McIrvin: @WereBear:

    Even so, I have to agree with WereBear that it wasn’t as bad as it could have been, as it was expected to be.  That doesn’t mean that WereBear is saying that everything is peachy, or that it wasn’t a horrible storm.

    But bodies aren’t floating in the streets, and people aren’t on their roofs, waiting and hoping for rescue.  That is something to feel relieved about.

  102. 102.

    Betty Cracker

    I read an article this morning in WaPo (I think) about Biden’s private visit with the families of the servicemembers killed in Afghanistan. The father of Lance Corporal Schmitz (see comment by @BC in Illinois: at #54) was featured prominently, and IIRC, he used the word “botched” to describe the withdrawal more than once.

    Chicken and egg question: did GOP Rep. Wagner (also referred to at #54) get it from the elder Schmitz, or did she get it from him? My guess is the latter; he probably doesn’t know her from Adam’s housecat, as my grandma used to say.

    But as ugly and divisive as our national politics have always been during my lifetime, I don’t recall a widespread phenomenon where elected officials attempted to directly stir up resentment and hatred toward presidents from the opposite party at a time of grief. Individual people, yes. A common response from elected officials at every level, no. 

    Lots of family members quoted in the WaPo piece were critical of Biden, which is certainly understandable — they’ve lost a family member, and they’re angry. Some are even unhinged, which I can also understand. One family member at the “dignified transfer” ceremony allegedly screamed “You’ll burn in hell!” at Biden. That person didn’t meet with him privately.

    Several who did meet with POTUS and FLOTUS complained about Biden talking about his late son. That’s also understandable IMO — they’re focused on their lost loved one, and rather than seeing references to the younger Biden as an attempt to connect over shared losses, they saw it as taking the focus off their loved one. I get it, even if I believe they’re taking it the wrong way.

    But as I read the article, it occurred to me that our unbridgeable political divides, which now make fistfights at schoolboard meetings commonplace, has infected every civic ritual. All of them.

  103. 103.

    germy

    This is a good documentary. (Sidney Powell walks out of her interview twice because she doesn’t like the questions):

    Link to full 45 minute documentary, which is fantastic. Includes Jan 6 and shows coordination between MAGA media, organizers, Trump, politicians, lawyers and activists to subvert the election. https://t.co/6P4MoEMqat

    — Ron Filipkowski (@RonFilipkowski) August 31, 2021

  105. 105.

    OzarkHillbilly

    @WereBear: It was a Cat 4 hurricane, but the storm surge was less and the levees had all been upgraded to the tune of $1 billion (the number I heard this am)

  107. 107.

    Kathleen

    @germy: I’m wondering if some of the Mainslime Media’s collective tantrum is a ploy to divert attention from the hearings. Not all of course. They need to bring down the uppity old white guy who had the temerity to choose Black woman for running mate. In my 60 years of following politics I’ve not seen on national level such nasty, vicious and personal attacks based on lies as I have the last 2 weeks. These people are evil. Just evil. And I’m talking about the press. They want a fascist in chief so badly.

  111. 111.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    @Kay: I was thinking “conscious” in terms of a reflex reaction at this point.  I had the odd experience of deal with two retired Blob members while GMing some on line role playing game, of all things, and both of them had weasel their way into the game admin before me, had created dozens of unfixable problems and then started with the screaming like Blob is with Afghanistan when I had to fix the damage they did by brute force.  They just couldn’t stop it to the point that every human interaction was like this.

  112. 112.

    catclub

    @OzarkHillbilly: ​
      $1B? ha!

    Officials said a $14.5 billion system of levees, flood gates and pumps worked as designed and stood up against a lashing from Hurricane Ida,

  114. 114.

    Villago Delenda Est

    Meanwhile, 90 sacks of MAGAt shit retired flag officers are demanding that the SECDEF and Chairman of the JCS resign over this “debacle.”

    They can all fuck off.

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