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You are here: Home / Politics / GOP Death Cult / Late Night Horrorshow Open Thread: Nowhere to Go But Down

Late Night Horrorshow Open Thread: Nowhere to Go But Down

by Anne Laurie|  March 29, 20221:59 am| 56 Comments

This post is in: GOP Death Cult, Information Warfare, Open Threads, All Too Normal, Cosplay Socialists

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Glem tries to frame it as, "Oh you call Tucker a Russian agent merely b/c he diverges from the consensus and questions war," which no….people call him a Russian tool because he instantly repeats whatever completely batshit conspiracy the Kremlin is pushing that day. https://t.co/c6L8RJbuNq

— Centrism Fan Acct ?? (@Wilson__Valdez) March 25, 2022

Mr. Trump Putin, who I do not support…

i have my suspicions, but I'm still not entirely sure if glenn is just a compromised liar, or his giant bulbous ego just can't admit he was hoodwinked by a russian intelligence agent pretending to be a romanian hacker (guccifer 2.0) https://t.co/8fPWPYtXxk

— Karl Bode (@KarlBode) March 25, 2022

"Just questioning prevailing pieties." lol

What Applebaum said is literally true; Tucker is a conduit for Russian propaganda. He does it night after night. It's brazen. pic.twitter.com/asZD7F9jq4

— Centrism Fan Acct ?? (@Wilson__Valdez) March 25, 2022

If zelensky doesn’t surrender people might think that Russia hacking the DNC wasn’t actually a good thing

— Centrist ??Madness (@CentristMadness) March 25, 2022

At least Glemm, however maddened by the existence of centrist Democrats & uppity women, seems to be capable of stringing together sentences…

Trump: Energy is so expensive today. A gallon? You take a look at your, forget about it. The pump. You take a look at a barrel now. It will be two dollars. It could be, people are saying it’s going to go up to thre— Think of this, people are saying… pic.twitter.com/4zOH47BGF6

— Acyn (@Acyn) March 27, 2022

That clip’s from just this last weekend, when TFG went down to Georgia…

Throughout most of this speech so far, it’s so quiet I can hear people in the back rows heckling a non-present CNN camera crew that’s actually from Right Side Broadcasting Network.

This is a shell of former rallies. https://t.co/JmcyRfxY5s

— stephen fowler (@stphnfwlr) March 27, 2022

I've covered more than two dozen Trump rallies around the nation. This is the smallest crowd I've seen at a rally of his in Georgia since he won the 2016 election — significantly smaller than the crowd in Perry in September. #gapol https://t.co/cwiGZnqfcl

— Greg Bluestein (@bluestein) March 26, 2022

2) He is actually stupid enough to believe that Putin was trying to negotiate. That his ultimate goals where diplomatic.
Trump is not a politician. He is a stupid fanboy who is disappointed that his hero has missed a layup.
Just imagining him being in charge is horrifying.

— Slava Malamud ???? (@SlavaMalamud) March 27, 2022

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  1. 1.

    Damien

    March 29, 2022 at 2:12 am

    Is there a German word for a guy whose entire personality and existence demands he be punched in the face? Because if there isn’t we need one of the German Jackeltariat to coin it. Bachpfeifentuckist?

  2. 2.

    mrmoshpotato

    March 29, 2022 at 2:14 am

    Will Fucker Carlson and Spleenwald be able to buy their souls back?

  3. 3.

    mrmoshpotato

    March 29, 2022 at 2:17 am

    @Damien: He’s the founder of Punchable Face magazine! (h/t Last Week Tonight)

  4. 4.

    Emma from Miami

    March 29, 2022 at 2:22 am

    @mrmoshpotato: What souls?

  5. 5.

    NotMax

    March 29, 2022 at 2:22 am

    @Damien

    More commonly rendered thusly.

    ;)

  6. 6.

    mrmoshpotato

    March 29, 2022 at 2:24 am

    @Emma from Miami: Yes.  I assume facts not in evidence.  My apologies.

  7. 7.

    NotMax

    March 29, 2022 at 2:25 am

    Someone backstage playing around with the fonts for the headline and for the comment numbers?

  8. 8.

    mrmoshpotato

    March 29, 2022 at 2:28 am

    Throughout most of this speech so far, it’s so quiet I can hear people in the back rows heckling a non-present CNN camera crew that’s actually from Right Side Broadcasting Network.

    This is a shell of former rallies.

    Stupid and SAD!

  9. 9.

    NotMax

    March 29, 2022 at 2:31 am

    @mrmoshpotato

    What do they shout at (supposed) CNN in Georgia?

    “Go back to Atlanta?”

    //

  10. 10.

    Bruce K in ATH-GR

    March 29, 2022 at 2:32 am

    @mrmoshpotato: Understandable in the case of Fox’s own Lord Haw-Haw, because there’s something in there where the soul should be that masquerades as a soul while poisoning everything around it. Like a radioactive fake prosthetic soul … type … thing.

    I suddenly regret saying elsewhere a while back that the last time the Nazis held significant power on the world stage, it took a nuclear war to bring them down.

  11. 11.

    mrmoshpotato

    March 29, 2022 at 2:33 am

    @NotMax:

    Someone backstage playing around with the fonts for the headline and for the comment numbers? 

    Wrongway Peter Peachfuzz?

  12. 12.

    sab

    March 29, 2022 at 2:55 am

    Carlsons. Just a very damaged family. Abandoned  then divorced orphan with children meets neglected heiress. The rest is almost inevitable. Then Faux put one of those kids on the air. But of course CNN did it first.

  13. 13.

    Ruckus

    March 29, 2022 at 2:56 am

    @mrmoshpotato:

    They didn’t sell them, they gave them away because they weren’t using them and had no intent to even try. I mean really they wouldn’t have gotten the cost of a small soda at McD’s for both of them so it didn’t really matter…..

  14. 14.

    Brachiator

    March 29, 2022 at 2:58 am

     

    It’s been a month since Russia invaded so a type of normalcy has settled in…

    I can’t quite figure out who Glenn Greenwald hates more, the United States or the people of Ukraine.

    He is actually stupid enough to believe that Putin was trying to negotiate. That his ultimate goals where diplomatic. Trump is not a politician. He is a stupid fanboy who is disappointed that his hero has missed a layup. Just imagining him being in charge is horrifying.

    The crazy thing is knowing that Trump used to be in charge, and some people want him back again. It is hard for me to accept the fact that anyone could listen to Trump’s foul, immoral ravings and think “Yeah. I want some more of that.”

    Totally depressing.

    As for Tucker Carlson, yeah he’s a cockroach, but he is on the air only because a larger evil, Rupert Murdoch wants him there.

  15. 15.

    Damien

    March 29, 2022 at 3:13 am

    @NotMax: Ja, ich sprechen ein Kleine du deutsche. Ein Kleine, und Nein gut

    Come back to me when it’s Spanish day… ?

    I’m just saying, it’s way more than just his face that needs punching

  16. 16.

    sab

    March 29, 2022 at 3:18 am

    @Brachiator: Glen Greenwald is possibly on contract being paid? So he has no thought process. Just say whatever and ca-ching?

  17. 17.

    TheMightyTrowel

    March 29, 2022 at 3:40 am

    Since this is an open thread… just sticking my nose in quickly because I posted the other day after a long absence and then immediately got dragged back into work stuff so didn’t notice that the lovely @SiubhanDuinne said hi and asked for an update… Feel free to pass on to her that I’ve put this here should any of you in this thread see her later.

    @SiubhanDuinne Yes, I’m still in Australia – still in the same role, still writing and teaching and generally being an archaeologist and mostly it’s fine but sometimes it sucks (the Aus govt decided to use the pandemic to stick one to the universities and it pretty much worked – we lost 40,000 colleagues across the sector which is a lot in a small country). I’m not here very often because the layout and embedded tweets are unreadable on my phone and when I have a laptop open these days I’m ‘at work’. I try to keep off my laptop on weekends/evenings, but I do keep up a bit with the posts (especially Adam’s daily updates which are invaluable). Anyhow, lovely to be remembered even if I only comment about once in a blue moon at this point – I still really appreciate this particular community and it’s enormous curiosity and knowledge.

  18. 18.

    Martin

    March 29, 2022 at 3:44 am

    @sab: I doubt either are being paid. Tucker repeats the Kremlin because Putin is the white christian nationalist daddy he wishes the US had. Glenn is different. I think he’s just convinced that he was entitled to some recognition of his genius that didn’t come, so the US is now his skank ex that he needs to badmouth at every turn.

  19. 19.

    Stuart Frasier

    March 29, 2022 at 3:54 am

    @Brachiator: 
    What Glem really hates is…Glem. He’s a gay Jewish guy who is working hard to promote people who want to exterminate him for multiple reasons. It’s “suicide by cop” on a genocidal level.

  20. 20.

    Lacuna Synecdoche

    March 29, 2022 at 4:04 am

    @mrmoshpotato:

    Will Fucker Carlson and Spleenwald be able to buy their souls back?

    Maybe … if the ruble’s exchange rate ever improves.

    But that’s assuming Carlwald ever had souls – and, if they’d had souls, that they’d ever want them back.​

  21. 21.

    sab

    March 29, 2022 at 4:05 am

    @Martin: My guess is you are right. Fox pays him enough.

  22. 22.

    David ? ☘The Establishment☘? Koch

    March 29, 2022 at 4:47 am

    Published March 8, 2022 6:00pm EST

    Fox News Poll: Kemp leads Perdue in Georgia’s GOP primary race for governor

    Gov. Brian Kemp receives 50% compared to 39% for former Sen. David Perdue, whom Donald Trump endorsed

    The primary is in 56 days. Perdue isn’t an unknown brand, he was senator for 6 years, his cousin Sonny Perdue was governor for 8 years and even with Dump’s ranting and raving he’s still losing by double digits.

    Tick tock, mothefucker

  23. 23.

    Elizabelle

    March 29, 2022 at 4:47 am

    @TheMightyTrowel:   Glad that “Subaru Diane” hailed you, cuz it was good to see a familiar name back.

  24. 24.

    lowtechcyclist

    March 29, 2022 at 5:15 am

    “It’s been a month since Russia invaded so a type of normalcy has settled in…”

    Yeah, Glem, tell that to the residents of Mariupol.

  25. 25.

    Baud

    March 29, 2022 at 5:20 am

    @TheMightyTrowel: Good to see you.

     

    @Martin: Who would pay attention to Glenn if he was saying offensive stuff?  When you have only one schtick, you lean into it.

  26. 26.

    Anne Laurie

    March 29, 2022 at 5:32 am

    @Martin: Glenn is different. I think he’s just convinced that he was entitled to some recognition of his genius that didn’t come, so the US is now his skank ex that he needs to badmouth at every turn.

    As I understand it, Glenn quit The Intercept — which was paying him a cool half-million plus extras, every year — because they insisted on stuff like ‘verifying facts’ and ‘editing’.   He moved to Substack, which reportedly offered him at least that much as a sign-up bonus, and it’s reported he’s now making more from subscriptions than he was as a mere reporter.

    How much of that ‘subscription money’ was funded from donors who *might* have been connected to certain hostile foreign governments is a topic of much speculation on center-left twitter…

  27. 27.

    NotMax

    March 29, 2022 at 5:34 am

    How to bite the movie studio hand that feeds you.

    Actor Ezra Miller, who has prominent roles in the Justice League and Harry Potter “Fantastic Beasts” film franchises, was arrested for suspicion of disorderly conduct and harassment early Monday after allegedly becoming belligerent at a Hilo bar.

    Hawaii County police said the 29-year-old actor became agitated while patrons at the bar were singing karaoke. Miller yelled obscenities and grabbed a microphone from a 23-year-old woman singing karaoke and later lunged at a 32-year-old man playing darts, according to police. The name of the bar was not released. Source

  28. 28.

    satby

    March 29, 2022 at 5:39 am

    @NotMax: Drunk guy does drunk guy shit, aka Friday night at the bar. If he wasn’t a celebrity (of sorts) that would barely have made the local police blotter.

  29. 29.

    NotMax

    March 29, 2022 at 5:45 am

    Go west, young MAGAt.

    A group of truck drivers protesting COVID-19 mandates on roads and highways around the Washington, D.C., area in recent weeks will head to California next, an organizer announced Sunday night. Source

    Where I’m sure they’ll be granted all the consideration they are due.

    //

  30. 30.

    NotMax

    March 29, 2022 at 5:48 am

    @satby

    Bet your bottom shekel his agent is working overtime on damage control.

    ;)

  31. 31.

    satby

    March 29, 2022 at 6:04 am

    @TheMightyTrowel:  I hear you on the difficulty of reading this site but it’s nice to see you and get an update.
    @NotMax:  Because they haven’t wasted quite enough time and fuel….
    @NotMax:  in my youth I spent a couple of years bartending so have no fondness for drunks acting out; but most of us have to live down our stupidest moments without having it hit the news. Not like he did it live during an awards show watched by millions.

  32. 32.

    p.a.

    March 29, 2022 at 6:05 am

    @TheMightyTrowel: 

    Glad to see everything’s ok, and now I understand your nym. And keep in touch; I especially find news & thoughts from those outside the US enlightening.

  33. 33.

    Geminid

    March 29, 2022 at 6:50 am

    @Brachiator: I wonder how many people still want to hear Trump. Turnout at Saturday’s rally in Cummings, Georgia was sad! Especially when one considers that Cummings is in the middle of a block of red counties, and just an hour or so from metropolitan Atlanta and it’s 6 million residents. Like a toxic radio-isotope, Trump could have a half-life, maybe 20 months.

    I cannot see by what political dynamic Trump can turn this around. Republican politicians still are clamoring to win his endorsement for primary runs, but  they may be lagging indicators of his popularity.

  34. 34.

    Geminid

    March 29, 2022 at 7:17 am

    @Martin:

     

    @sab: I sometimes wonder if Glem’s status in Brazil is protected by the Russians. Bolsanaro and Putin are two authoritarian peas in a pod. I’ve speculated that Putin’s people might have informed Bolsanar’s that this guy is useful. Glem is only a nominal critic of Bolsanaro.

    One effect of this war will be an attenuation of Russia’s overseas clout. That may be a hazard to Greenwald. Eventually this may also put Russia’s military presence in Syria on shaky ground. It is a thorn in both Turkey and Israel’s sides, and I think both nations would like it if the U.S. helped expel the Russians or at least clip their wings in Syria. Arab states would welcome this. But, one war at a time….

  35. 35.

    Amir Khalid

    March 29, 2022 at 7:22 am

    @Damien:

    Ja, ich sprechen ein Kleine du deutsche. Ein Kleine, und Nein gut

    The pedant in me insists on saying that should be

    Ja, ich kann nur ein Bisschen Deutsch, und nicht so gut.

  36. 36.

    Matt McIrvin

    March 29, 2022 at 7:36 am

    @Geminid: I don’t think we should make the classic/Trumpian mistake of thinking rally sizes are a key indicator. People may not want to come to his rallies, but Trump still has an utterly loyal voting base and functions as a symbol. The one person who might be able to prevent him from strolling to the Republican nomination in ’24 is DeSantis, who is clearly angling to be Trump version 2, this time with more red meat for the religious bigots.

    But if things go like they’ve been going, whoever gets nominated by the Republicans should be able to win easily, just because Biden’s approval is low and the Rs have a structural advantage.

  37. 37.

    Baud

    March 29, 2022 at 7:41 am

    @Matt McIrvin:

    It’s silly to predict what Biden’s approval rating will be two years from now.

  38. 38.

    Ken

    March 29, 2022 at 7:42 am

    It’s probably futile to try to extract meaning from that TFG word salad quoted above, but — is he saying gas prices will go up to two or three dollars a gallon? I could readily believe he doesn’t know the price of gas. I could also believe he heard “go up by” and turned it into “go up to”, as it would explain that chain of bankruptcies.

  39. 39.

    Kay

    March 29, 2022 at 7:48 am

    @Matt McIrvin:

    I think Trump has successfully integrated his voters into the GOP base. He added Republicans- people who weren’t aligned with a party before will now vote GOP exclusively, and that’s the big leap for an insurgent or celebrity candidate- does he add to the GOP base. They really do owe him.

  40. 40.

    Geminid

    March 29, 2022 at 7:56 am

    @Matt McIrvin: I did not say that the size of Trump’s rally Saturday night was a key indicator. I did imply that it was an indicator, as will be his upcoming rally in Macomb County, Michigan this Saturday.

    Polling shows a small but steady decline in Trump’s popularity  among Republicans.  Spring primary races in North Carolina and Georgia among other states will give another indication of Trump’s strengh among Republicans. At this point his power in that party may be mostly negative, able to block his opponents but unable to put his adherents into office. We’ll learn something about this in November.

    Like I said, I don’t see how Trump can reverse his decline, which is probably steeper among Independents than Republicans. I agree with what President Biden said, that he would be fortunate to run against “this person” in 2024.

  41. 41.

    different-church-lady

    March 29, 2022 at 8:07 am

    @NotMax: They’re gonna blockade all the bridges to China!

  42. 42.

    Geminid

    March 29, 2022 at 8:12 am

    @Kay: Trump certainly brought new voters into the Republican party. Not all of them will stay and keep voting. We may have seen those who did not cost the Republican Senate a 200,000 vote drop from the general election to the Georgia Senate runoffs, twice that for the Democratic candidates.

    Last year Virginia election might be a counterexample to Trump’s vote-getting prowess. There was a 12 point swing from the previous year’s Presidential result. A Republican analyst might well conclude that Trump scares away more voters than he attracts. Republican analysts don’t have to win primaries, though.

  43. 43.

    Shalimar

    March 29, 2022 at 8:16 am

    @Ken: He’s saying oil prices are up to $200 a barrel and could reach $300.  In the real world, oil prices rose from under $100 to over $120 and have settled back to hovering around $100 again

    edit: no, he doesn’t understand what they wrote for him to say, but even what they wrote is bullshit

  44. 44.

    Geminid

    March 29, 2022 at 8:18 am

    @Geminid: That should be, ” we may have seen some who did not [show] cost the Republican Senate candidates a 200,000 vote drop…”

  45. 45.

    Uncle Cosmo

    March 29, 2022 at 8:37 am

    @Amir Khalid: Sie haben es gesagst, damit ich nicht weiter gemußt habe. Vielen Dank! :^D

  46. 46.

    Tony Jay

    March 29, 2022 at 8:38 am

    @NotMax: 

    Hey, if The Flash wants to lead the long overdue fightback against Karaoke then we should be in his corner.

    Can you even imagine what the 500th iteration of ‘Yellow‘ or ‘ Just Haven’t Met You Yet‘ sounds like to a guy who thinks at lightspeed? ?

  47. 47.

    Chris Johnson

    March 29, 2022 at 8:48 am

    @Anne Laurie: FWIW I have seen lots of that sort of thing. I’m certain that all the internet economy, patreon-substack-etc stuff is the perfect conduit for Russian oligarchs to funnel money to content creators and very likely direct them at a remove: if you’re getting internet comments in your private messages, but they’re coordinated and they’re from the high-tier donors, you’re gonna be influenced whether or not you are openly aligning with your Russian masters. You know what side your bread is buttered on, and probably if you’re not an idiot, you end up rationalizing yourself into treason, for the money. Eventually it won’t matter whether the ‘people’ guiding you were all sock puppets wired to a bank account. Same result.

  48. 48.

    Kay

    March 29, 2022 at 8:49 am

    @Geminid:

    There’s a party view and a candidate view though. From the party perspective it doesn’t matter that much that the Trump candidate has 39% and the more mainstream candidate has 50%. The 39 and the 50 are Republicans and they’re engaged enough to participate in a primary. They can lose a lot of them and still be net gain. He made more Republicans. The Trump Republicans don’t need to turn out at 70%. It’s all net gain.

  49. 49.

    Kristine

    March 29, 2022 at 8:52 am

    @NotMax: That isn’t the first altercation they’ve had. I like their work as an actor but someone needs to have a talk with them. https://variety.com/2020/film/news/ezra-miller-throttling-woman-video-1234571800/amp/

  50. 50.

    Kay

    March 29, 2022 at 8:54 am

    @Geminid:

    It’s hard to do apples to apples but one would look at the primary electorate. The size. If that’s “up” from what it was before they can lose some disgruntled primary loser voters and still be “up” in the general. Trump loses, but the GOP wins net voters. It’s why he’s so insistent that they owe him- they do.

  51. 51.

    Just One More Canuck

    March 29, 2022 at 8:58 am

    @Amir Khalid: I thought it should be:

    Wenn ist das Nunstück git und Slotermeyer? Ja! Beiherhund das Oder die Flipperwaldt gersput!

  52. 52.

    Geminid

    March 29, 2022 at 9:05 am

    @Kay: You are more or less right here. I would posit one exception though. Some of these people who showed up for Trump are embittered by his loss, and they blame the “RINOs” in general and Republican politicians like the Georgia and Arizona Governors in particular for not championing their guy’s cause. Some of them have no more innate loyalty to the party than their boss has. This could be a turnout problem for Republicans in states where they can’t afford to lose even 5% of their voters, like Arizona and Georgia.

    I can’t say how many, but I think there are some people who will go to their graves grumbling, “I voted Republican back when we had a chance to make America great again. But then the RINOs stabbed Trump in the back and I never gave those #%*@’s my vote again. It’s all a game anyway.”

  53. 53.

    catclub

    March 29, 2022 at 9:11 am

    @Shalimar: 

    He’s saying oil prices are up to $200 a barrel and could reach $300.

    Isn’t that a crib from Russian statements on oil? Ie. if there is a ban on Russian oil.

  54. 54.

    tam1MI

    March 29, 2022 at 10:09 am

    From the party perspective it doesn’t matter that much that the Trump candidate has 39% and the more mainstream candidate has 50%. The 39 and the 50 are Republicans and they’re engaged enough to participate in a primary. They can lose a lot of them and still be net gain. He made more Republicans. The Trump Republicans don’t need to turn out at 70%. It’s all net gain.

    The flip side to this is that the Dems had an even greater net gain due to Trump, which means they can afford to turn out at somewhat lower numbers and still win.

    In the end, it will all come down to who can turn out their voters. Like our Forever FLOTUS says, when we vote, we win.

  55. 55.

    Shalimar

    March 29, 2022 at 10:49 am

    @catclub: I don’t recall the Russian statement, but that would explain where they got numbers that make no sense otherwise

  56. 56.

    different-church-lady

    March 29, 2022 at 10:50 am

    @Chris Johnson:

    and probably if you’re not an idiot, you end up rationalizing yourself into treason, for the money.

    Jesus, what happens if you are an idiot?

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