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Colorado Update: A Projected Red Seat Flips Blue, Another Still Waiting

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This was a new district in Colorado and was projected to be an easy win for the Republican Kirkmeyer. A Libertarian candidate proved to be a spoiler for her, pulling in 4% of the vote total in a race won by just 2 points (as of this hour of counting). Caraveo ran a terrific campaign and was up against some ugly, ugly Spanish language ads – both mailers and television. You guys raised money for her, and I’m sure that was helpful.

Now for the one everyone really, really wants to flip:

So, keep the faith, and CO could add 2 House seats that were unexpected in those tallies you’ve been seeing.

Also, Nevada – it does sound like, even though it looks bumpy for Catherine Cortez-Masto right now, they won’t start counting the mail-in ballots from this past weekend until Saturday, I think, and those usually lean Democratic and also about 59K from the dropboxes in Clark county still to be counted and pundits are predicting that she pulls out a win.  It’s gonna take awhile, so buckle in and stay hydrated.

There will be no kindness post tonight – we’ll reconvene later this week for one (hopefully).

This is an open thread. Election or otherwise.

 

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  3. 3.

    Jerzy Russian

    I am keeping the faith that Boebert will get kicked out of Congress.  If nothing else her election night celebration was interrupted, and perhaps there is some growing realization in side that empty head of hers that most people hate her.

    [deleted, typo fixed]

  7. 7.

    persistentillusion

    Please, please, please let Boebert go back to her her terrible restaurant (oh, wait, it closed), go back to her terrible sex-offender husband.  Maybe just go away.  I’m on the other side of the Continental Divide from her, but as a citizen of CO, she’s the worst we got.  And she’s had some competition.

    Go Fritsch!

  9. 9.

    different-church-lady

    Boebert going down will almost completely neuter the Mean Girls Caucus. This is huge going forward.

  10. 10.

    martha

    @TaMara: Totally agree on Kyle. Laughed out loud about his DougJ tweet. And good for Caraveo, first Hispanic women to represent our state in the US Congress.

  11. 11.

    trollhattan

    upset Republican Rep. Lauren Boebert

    Everybody run! Grab the children and dogs! Incoming!!!

  15. 15.

    Groucho48

    My dream scenario is that Palin pushing herself into the Alaska race and Boebert being Boebert lets Dems hold the House.

  16. 16.

    Matt McIrvin

    Looks like we won’t know who won AZ governor for some time–for a while it looked like Katie Hobbs’ margin over Kari Lake was narrowing to nil as they counted the late ballots, but now it’s widened a bit again. My impression from 2020 was that Arizona is a state where mail ballots actually lean Republican, so the trends are hard to gauge and not like most states.

  18. 18.

    Old Dan and Little Ann

    I checked in on hannity.  I was able to watch for more than 30 seconds for once.  I just don’t think his heart was in it tonight.  Sad.

  19. 19.

    James E Powell

    @Groucho48:

    My dream scenario is that Palin pushing herself into the Alaska race and Boebert being Boebert lets Dems hold the House.

    Dems holding the house would cause political media to express deep regret that they misread the nation claim they knew it all along.

  22. 22.

    ALurkSupreme

    The latest from Nevada:

    Jon Ralston
    @RalstonReports

    First Clark (County) dump of only 14K new ballots and CCM reduces statewide deficit to 18K. Ds have to love first dump, gaining 5K out of first 14K ballots, with 65 percent to 30 percent spread. That’s first 14K of 84K in Clark.

    If margins continue like that, she will be ahead.   IF.

  24. 24.

    frosty

    Considering other possible election outcomes, I’m going to chalk this up as a kindness post!

  26. 26.

    JoyceH

    @persistentillusion:

    Please, please, please let Boebert go back to her her terrible restaurant (oh, wait, it closed), go back to her terrible sex-offender husband. Maybe just go away.

    You know what’s awesome? The Congressional pension doesn’t vest until five years served. Oh, she won’t starve, she’ll be sure to find some cushy berth on the Wingnut Welfare gravy train – but at least OUR tax dollars won’t be paying her!

  27. 27.

    TaMara

    All I can say is, it sure would be nice not to have to apologize every time Boebert opens her craw or tweets something inane.

  28. 28.

    Ivan X

    You know, I feel pretty good today. I made myself not look at news even though I couldn’t sleep and worked on a technical project instead. I didn’t get enough sleep, then I woke up, and found we were not yet living in the hellscape, and it had stopped raining and was beautiful today. I was busy enough that I didn’t even look at the news much today. Then I remembered there was this election and came in here and this is a good community with good people. I feel like it was a good day.

  30. 30.

    James E Powell

    @James E Powell:

    That comment did not come out like I planned.

    Dems holding the house would cause political media to express deep regret that they misread the nation claim they knew it all along.

  31. 31.

    different-church-lady

    @James E Powell:

    Dems holding the house would cause political media to express deep regret that they misread the nation claim they knew it all along not do a single damn thing differently than they’re doing now.

  32. 32.

    japa21

    @Baud: ​
      I frequently read comments without reading who posts them. Amazing how I knew right away this was a Baud post.

  33. 33.

    Suzanne

    @Matt McIrvin:

    My impression from 2020 was that Arizona is a state where mail ballots actually lean Republican, so the trends are hard to gauge and not like most states.

    Yes.
    Arizona has had vote-by-mail for decades. Long before it was a big thing. They have a Permanent Early Voter List (PEVL), and you only need to sign up once, and thereafter you will get every ballot in the mail for every election. No reason required. It’s fabulous, and the old people love it. Much less hassle, no waiting outside in the heat, blah blah.

    Canvassers used to be able to collect ballots and submit them to the Board of Elections. They changed that in 2016, so no one was supposed to take anyone’s ballots. Which was, again, hard on old people, since you couldn’t even take, like, your elderly mom’s ballot to the mailbox. Stupid.

  37. 37.

    Mr. Bemused Senior

    @Ivan X:  I kept saying to myself, “don’t look! Don’t look!”  Then this morning very busy at work.  What a relief looking at the news in the afternoon.  There’s still hope for this country.

  38. 38.

    mali muso

    @Ivan X: ​
     This was my last day and a half as well. I have been on a media blackout since Tuesday morning and feel much better as a result. Had a huge work event today and had no bandwidth to risk spiraling mentally into anxiety.

  39. 39.

    mrmoshpotato

    @trollhattan:

    Everybody run! Grab the children and dogs! Incoming!!! 

    Why not let the children flip off, and the dogs growl at the gun-humping brat?

  42. 42.

    MobiusKlein

    Feels nutty that every election seems to come down to the wire in some way. I don’t remember it happening like this before 2000

  43. 43.

    Citizen Alan

    @JoyceH:

    she’ll be sure to find some cushy berth on the Wingnut Welfare gravy train

    Will she? She’s far to stupid to make it as a commentator on any even marginally professional media outlet. And what could she possibly do at a think tank? If she loses, I see Boebert doing the “Paula Jones Celebrity Boxing” route. Or possibly getting an Only Fans page.

  45. 45.

    p.a.

    Gotta hand it to Republicans; along with their losing age demographics, appealing to the stupidest and most publicly vile people not really seeming to be a winning strategery.

    Well, when over half your supporters think the earth is 6,000 years old…

  46. 46.

    Old Dan and Little Ann

    @MobiusKlein:  I remember being a kid in the 80s being super pissed when election coverage fucked up my sitcom viewing.  I was definitely not stressing over results.   : )

  47. 47.

    sdhays

    @Citizen Alan:

    She’s far too stupid to make it as a commentator on any even marginally professional media outlet.

    Umm…you have a considerably higher opinion of the standards applied to commentators on “marginally professional media outlets” than I do.

    Apparently some people think she’s hot. That’s pretty much enough. She’s a Republican (hopefully!) former member of Congress – that’s gravy. Joe Scarborough managed to leverage those qualifications into a lucrative career on the “liberal” network. Now, can she keep a job at CNN/ABC/NBC/CBS without saying something that makes them liable to be sued? That’s a totally different question, but I’m sure one of them is willing to find out.

    Speaking of CNN, I wonder if they’ll fire all of the Republicans they preemptively hired earlier this year in anticipation of the Republican Congress if Republicans fail to take either chamber. (Not really wondering.)

  49. 49.

    Another Scott

    BlueVirginia.US list of winners and losers:

    Losers

    1. Glenn Youngkin: Instead of doing the job he was hired by voters to do, Glenn Youngkin spent much of the past few months running around the country – as well as Virginia – in support of far-right-extremist candidates. And the fruits of his labors were mostly losses. Here in Virginia, Youngkin spent a lot of time, energy and money helping out Republicans like: Fairfax City Mayoral candidate Sang Yi (LOST to Democrat Catherine Read); VA08 GOP nominee Karina Lipsman (got CRUSHED as expected by Rep. Don Beyer); VA11 GOP nominee Jim Myles (got CRUSHED as expected by Rep. Gerry Connolly); VA10 GOP nominee Hung Cao (lost by 33 points to Rep. Gerry Connolly [sic – Wexton is VA10]); VA07 GOP nominee Yesli Vega (lost by 4 points to Rep. Abigail Spanberger); etc. And nationally, Youngkin campaigned for Paul LePage in Maine (lost by 13 points to Democrat Janet Mills); Kari Lake in Arizona (race not decided yet, but she’s narrowly trailing Democrat Katie Hobbs at the moment), Lee Zeldin in New York (lost by ~5 points to Democrat Kathy Hochul), Tudor Dixon in Michigan (lost by about 10 points to Democrat Gretchen Whitmer), Derek Schmidt in Kansas (lost narrowly to Democrat Laura Kelly), Heidi Ganahl in Colorado (losing by 17 points or so to Democrat Jared Polis), Bob Stefanowski in Connecticut (lost by 12 points or so to Democrat Ned Lamont), Mark Ronchetti in New Mexico (lost by 6 points or so to Democrat Michele Lujan Grisham); Tim Michels in Wisconsin (lost by 3 points or so to Democrat Tony Evers); Christine Drazan in Oregon (race not decided yet, but she’s trailing Democrat Tina Kotek by a point with 67% reporting), etc. Great job, huh? So again, even as Youngkin’s not doing the job he’s supposed to be doing – governing Virginia competently – he’s been campaigning for extreme candidates, most of whom didn’t even win! In doing so, Youngkin trashed his (false) image as some sort of moderate, as well as his image as a winner. If that doesn’t qualify for the #1 ranking in the “political losers” category, I’m not sure what would.

    1a. Red Vests: On a related note, a Democratic Virginia politico suggested that a “loser” was “red vests.” In traveling around the country, Youngkin gave out those red vests to the candidates he stumped for. But…why? What do those vests even mean? And is the whole “shtick” even helpful to Republican candidates, or to Youngkin himself (who seems mired in the 0%-1% range in polls of possible 2024 Republican presidential candidates).

    1b. Youngkin’s campaign team: On another related note, it’s worth pointing out that Vega’s campaign was run by the Youngkin campaign team (“Axiom Strategies”), which described Vega as “a ‘perfect fit’ talent who can win in the Commonwealth’s most competitive areas.” Apparently not! LOL

    Good, good.

    These guys are dangerous, but they’re not that good. We can and will defeat them.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  50. 50.

    oldster

    Today was a good day. I went to bad braced for the worst, and woke up to find the worst had not happened.

    Looking to the future: I just tossed a couple hundred into the Reverend Warnock’s Act Blue fund. I want him to win this run-off, and some cash will help him get ads up.

  51. 51.

    James E Powell

    @Quiltingfool:

    There is another guy from the south that does short political videos. I can’t think of his name to find him. Anyone know who I’m talking about?

  52. 52.

    sdhays

    I just have to say one of the great things about the Fetterman win is how it wasn’t close like in 2020. The Republican Party was running around trying to disqualify mail in ballots on Unconstitutional technicalities and it was all for naught – the election wasn’t close enough to steal.

    Thanks, Pennsylvania!

  53. 53.

    persistentillusion

    @JoyceH: Yipee!  I didn’t know that, but it’s such good news.  May she ooze back into the not very nice town she sprung from and then disappear.

  57. 57.

    RaflW

    @JoyceH: Her husband is making big six figures annually as a ‘consultant’ for oil & gas in CO. The grift might slow down rapidly if he doesn’t have her office as a reason, but they shouldn’t be broke (but they probably are).

  59. 59.

    Dangerman

    It’s the economy Dobbs decision, stupid.

    /2022 Carville

    For basically all my adult life, I figured Republicans wouldn’t want Roe overturned because royally pissing off way more than half the electorate is seriously bad politics. Then, after Dobbs, they danced around like royally pissing off way more than half the electorate was reason to celebrate. Unbelievable.

  63. 63.

    Kent

    @RaflW:@JoyceH: Her husband is making big six figures annually as a ‘consultant’ for oil & gas in CO. The grift might slow down rapidly if he doesn’t have her office as a reason, but they shouldn’t be broke (but they probably are).

    That job only lasts as long as the MAGAt is in office.   He is useless to the oil industry if he is married to a loser

    But she will get on the wingnut gravy train for sure.  Basically do the Palin thing.

  70. 70.

    Ohio Mom

    @Dangerman: And today I heard a complaint from a Republican that all the Dobbs voters were one-issue voters, as if we didn’t get to this point because of one-issue voters. File under taste of your own medicine.

  72. 72.

    persistentillusion

    @sdhays: Hot? She’s got a face like a feral rabbit.  Lock the doors and make shire the dogs are in, that thing is rabid!

  73. 73.

    kalakal

    @Ivan X: Me too. I’ve been crazy busy so only able to keep 1/2 an eye on the elections. I was mildly optimistic before, local results suck ( Fl) but on the whole we’ve done a bit worse than I’d hoped but far better than the doomsters reckoned. I’ve now got 3 days off, yay me.

    The only cloud on the horizon (ahem) is a hurricane heading this way but it shouldn’t be too bad by the time it gets here.

    If I was a wingnut I’d be depressed, this may have been their, last, best shot and they screwed it

  76. 76.

    James E Powell

    @JoyceH:

    If Boebert loses she will be tossed aside & forgotten. Nearly every Republican will claim they never heard of her. FOX will but “Democrat” in the chyron when there are stories about her. Unlike Palin, the media does not love Boebert.

  77. 77.

    Citizen Alan

    @Ohio Mom: Seriously! The largest and most electorally powerful bloc within the GOP is the evangelical Christians. And ALL THEY CARE ABOUT is sex in general and abortion in particular. The GOP has nothing to offer the evangelical community except banning abortion, stuffing gays back in the closet, and advancing white supremacy (though the evangelicals will deny until they’re blue in the fact that the last of those has ever been something they want. Liars!)

  78. 78.

    Alison Rose

    @persistentillusion: Conservatives have bizarre ideas about what’s attractive. Boebert and Palin are hot, Michelle Obama is fat and ugly, trump is sexy, Obama is a dork. (I mean, yeah, Obama is a bit of a dork…a fine dork, as that lady in the crowd noted the other day).

  80. 80.

    sdhays

    @persistentillusion: MTG is often described as attractive as well. Don’t ask me to explain because I can’t.

    ETA:

    @dexwood: I’m just pointing out that the conventional wisdom is that she is attractive and that’s the major part of what makes someone worthy of being on the teevee in most producers’ eyes. It’s not my judgement.

  82. 82.

    Cacti

    I can’t help but wonder how much the results nationally were affected by the hundreds of thousands of right wingers who died from Covid to own the libs.

  83. 83.

    Jackie

    @Old Dan and Little Ann: I fast forwarded thru Tucker. He basically divided his show with lauding DeStupid, calling Fetterman brain damaged, interviewing soft-filtered Kari Lake – which made her look out of focus next to Tucker’s untouched up side by side shots. She, of course was claiming certain victory or shenanigans, and mocking msnbc’s Kornacki. Then watched a smidgin of Hannity, who as you said, was going through the motions.

  86. 86.

    GibberJack

    @Citizen Alan: Sex and abortion are stalking horses for white evangelicals. They are after power.

    The sex and abortion stuff is used to make them all righteous and christian and good and the holy chosen. But when it comes down to brass tacks, when it’s a choice between their supposed beliefs and a chance at power, it’s all about power, baby.  See: white evangelical support of Trump, and now H. Walker.

    Just as rape is really about power, not sex, white evangelicals are really about power, not sex.

  87. 87.

    BlueGuitarist

    We might flip PA state house, right now 100 D, 100 R
    3 too close to call, 2 of those are super swing district candidates we supported
    PA-H-142 (Bucks County) Mark Moffa is up by * 2 votes * out of  about 30,000, with about 1600 uncounted
    PA-H-151 (Montgomery County) Melissa Cerrato is behind by 26 votes  with about 700 uncounted the third seat (Bucks) Brian Monroe is up by about 400 votes
    more details on down ballot candidates in the days ahead

  88. 88.

    HumboldtBlue

    Man, what a moon tonight. We had rain for a few days obscuring it on most nights, but damn if it isn’t a beacon of light shining in the sky telling every goper to fuck off.

  89. 89.

    Betsy

    @Cacti: Not much.  If everyone who died were a right-winger, it would have affected the electorate by .04 of a percentage point. That’s .0004 of the electorate.    Not a breaking difference in the large majority of races.

    But that’s if all the Covid dead were RWNJs.  Instead, an  almost equally huge proportion of Covid victims were Black, or other people of color, or Native people — all more likely to die from Covid because of social determinants of health; and the early victims also were overwhelmingly in Blue cities.

  91. 91.

    NotMax

    Just out of curiosity (not that his re-election was ever in doubt), looked up Bennie Thompson’s record over the last few election cycles.

    2016 – 67.1%
    2018 – 71.8%
    2020 – 66.0%
    2022 – 59.3%

  92. 92.

    Jackie

    For a bit of political humor: Alexandra Petri’s latest.

    Kevin McCarthy’s red wave victory speech:

    “Hello, enormous crowd of enthusiastic supportersmedium-size (and I am being generous!) gaggle of staffers and others who are still here at 2 a.m. after the bar stopped serving! What a night it’s been! An enormous tsunami of redsmall trickle of red cascadingdribbling over the map in an undeniable underwhelming manner! I am pumped! Kevin! The thrill of victory surges through my veins, and I feel more powerful than ever before! Just as I said would happen, just as Elon Musk himself wished, we have gained 60 House seats and are going to offer Americans the clear, inescapable Republican majority they have long been dreaming of! My wish is coming true! That’s my name: Kevin!”

    For more enjoyment, here’s the link for the rest of Kevin’s “speech:”

    Link

  93. 93.

    El Muneco

    @sdhays: MTG has a relatively symmetrical face, a nice smile when she is in a photo shoot and not raving in front of a microphone, and is within10 pounds of her natural weight. She’s legitimately conventionally attractive, albeit not a stunner. If she showed up in my Bumble feed, she’s more attractive than average although the demographics would be a buzzkill.

    Boebert has an even more symmetrical face, has bought in to the “naughty secretary” look that Palin had down so well, and is not only slimmer but top-heavy, which is a look that drives the men wild. When she’s not actively hating on someone (which is the majority of the time), she is legitimately hot – almost as much so as Tina Fey playing Palin on SNL.

  94. 94.

    opiejeanne

    @HumboldtBlue: It was gorgeous today, sunny and mostly clear,and very cold for November 9 in King County, WA. 26 last night, 26 again tonight. Currently 30 F at 9:12pm. I expect it to be gorgeous again tomorrow. It gets like this, clear as a bell and below freezing. Too cold to snow is the joke here.

    Patty Murray did ok, defeating Tiffany Smiley, who bombarded us with stupid negative ads. She seems ignorant of what US Senators actually do and don’t do.

    Suzan del Bene, our US Rep won and we never saw a negative ad about her. Kim Schrier won, despite the really nasty ads against her.

    Our state senator, Manka Dhingra won again despite the Seattle Times attempt to knife her in the back.

    And our state reps, Roger Goodman and Larry Springer appear to have won by a tidy margin, but finding out was like pulling teeth.

    Maybe next election I’ll feel safe to volunteer again at the local HQ.

  96. 96.

    opiejeanne

    @El Muneco: That whole thing made me want to vomit. I don’t see MTG as even mildly attractive, but Boebert I can see it.

    The one I still can’t get over is the little bimbo from Russia who was so pro-gun and had all the male Rs gaga in 2016. Her looks were hard and odd.

  100. 100.

    Citizen Alan

    @Jackie: I won’t link to it, but McMegan has a really big sad that the Democrats didn’t work harder to help moderate Republicans win their primaries so that they in turn could take over Congress. Years ago, I got a temporary ban at The Atlantic for calling her a sociopath in the comments to one of her inane editorials. I’m still proud of that.

  102. 102.

    Gwangung

    I’m not one to comment on female politicians’ looks negatively so I’ll pass on commenting about the Mean Girls. But I’d be happy if either of them were out of pol.

  103. 103.

    Martin

    Ok, 2 CA house races called!

    • CA-23 is a GOP hold.
    • CA-25 is a Dem hold.

    That leaves 16 races uncalled. 3 are Dem vs Dem, so they’re safe.

    • CA-03: R +6 (open seat)
    • CA-06: D +11 (D incumbent)
    • CA-09: D +13 (D incumbent)
    • CA-13: Tie (open seat)
    • CA-21: D +7 (D incumbent)
    • CA-22: R +8 (R incumbent)
    • CA-23: R +21 (R incumbent)
    • CA-25: D +23 (D incumbent)
    • CA-26: D +7 (D incumbent)
    • CA-27: R +15 (R incumbent)
    • CA-40: R +18 (R incumbent)
    • CA-41: D +13 (R incumbent)
    • CA-45: R +10 (R incumbent)
    • CA-47: D +1 (D incumbent)
    • CA-49: D +2 (D incumbent)

    Not much movement, not many votes counted best as I can tell. I think most counties take today to put the machine count equipment away and pull the mail count machines back out, and give everyone some sleep. Dec 9 is the deadline to certify, so in CA this is a marathon, not a sprint.

    Uncounted ballot data has been submitted to the state but they haven’t yet published it. Tomorrow should be more eventful. I have no idea how any of these races are projected in the overall models for control of the House.

  104. 104.

    Princess

    @dexwood: yeah. Boebert has good hair but you can’t help notice she has a face like a hamster if you’re sober. MTG doesn’t even have good hair and always looks to me like she doesn’t bathe as often as she might. The kind of woman who wakes up with her makeup still on, kind of crusty.

  105. 105.

    TriassicSands

    @NotMax:

    That’s the whole idea behind gerrymandering. Cram as many opposition voters as possible into as few districts as possible, while creating many “safe” districts for your own party. Winning by a huge margin is often less a sign of candidate superiority than it is of rigged districts.

    That’s nothing against Thompson, he has to run where he can.

    Of course, Mississippi, has only four representatives, three of them Republicans who win by even bigger margins than Thompson. With only four districts and 56% of the state’s population being white, there is no reason to expect power sharing that would give minorities more that one seat.

    “Between 2012 and 2020, the white-Black turnout gap grew between 9.2 and 20.9 percentage points across five of the six states originally covered by Section 5 of the Voting Rights Act.”

    Rest assured, that is just what CJ Roberts hoped to see happen in his brand new “color blind” America.

  106. 106.

    JoyceH

    @El Muneco: ​
     

    MTG has a relatively symmetrical face, a nice smile when she is in a photo shoot and not raving in front of a microphone, and is within10 pounds of her natural weight. She’s legitimately conventionally attractive, albeit not a stunner.

    And yet, and yet…. There’s something about her. I know she was raised as a small town rich kid, but there is about her a certain aura that in my Midwestern small town in the politically incorrect ’60s was called ‘trashy’. Or ‘poor white trash’, or ‘trailer trash’. I’m not talking about her obviously abysmal behavior, but her appearance just strikes me as someone low class. Or, you know… trashy.

  111. 111.

    TriassicSands

    @Gwangung:

    I agree about commenting on looks, but even conventionally attractive Republican female candidates are repulsive when you hear them open their mouths to spew lies and cruelty.

    Or seeing a photo of one of the nightmarish fascist radicals  (no names) posing with their guns, makes me want to throw up. If the most beautiful woman in the world ran as a Republican and posed with an AR-15, I would see and feel nothing but repulsion.

    On the other hand, there are plenty of Democratic women who hardly qualify as pretty that I find very agreeable to look at. Some radiate kindness and an open spirit.

    Looks may attract votes among superficial voters, but I’ll take inner beauty anyday.

  113. 113.

    TriassicSands

    @Princess: …but you can’t help notice she has a face like a hamster if you’re sober.

    I’m always sober and I think hamsters are cute. But the person you’re talking about turns my stomach. That’s because I’ve heard her talk and I know that most hamsters are a lot more intelligent than she is. And no threat to democracy.

  114. 114.

    eclare

    @JoyceH:   Nailed it.  To me her foundation always looks off, which makes her whole face look off.

    Not that hard to get a makeover at a dept store by Clinique or Lancome.

  116. 116.

    TriassicSands

    @eclare: Not that hard to get a makeover at a dept store by Clinique or Lancome.

    But extremely difficult to get a soul, conscience, or brain transplant. And that’s what is really needed

    Note: I don’t believe in the “soul.” However, I know what the absence of a conscience or a brain looks like.

  118. 118.

    A Ghost to Most

    Kyle Clark is a a low-rent Tucker Carlson. 9News have him his own show, so the rest of the crew could stay away from him. Quote him at your own risk.

  119. 119.

    Geminid

     

     

    @James E Powell: I think you are right about Boebert (as you were right about Abbott’s and Desantis’s winning margins). She really is a lightweight. She’s a motor mouth who talks really fast but says nothing. I happened to hear Boebert interviewed by Sebastian Gorka on radio one time and he could barely get a word in edgewise. Gorka didn’t even try to stop her at the hard break. One second she was babbling away, next second some lady was selling mattresses.

    Boebert might get work for a while at C-level wingnut events, but I suspect that finances for many of these groups is drying up now.

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    trucmat

    Boebert and MTG are physically attractive. As is Palin. As is AOC and Whitmer. As are my daughters. Trashing their looks is pretty lame. Really comes down to trashing women who shows signs of aging. If that’s legitimate fun ….

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    Uncle Cosmo

    @dexwood: Boebert is hot in the same way people are hot to each other at last call after a long night of drinking at a bar.

    You know what they** say: Party til she’s cute!

    ** For certain repulsive and reprehensible values of “they” that most of us with dat baaaad ole Y chromosome outgrew decades ago…

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    Miss Bianca

    @TaMara: Kyle Clark did a great cover of my paper’s lawsuit against our county commissioners. Never heard of him before this, as I don’t watch much teevee nooz, but I’m a fan now!

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