Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

Too little, too late, ftfnyt. fuck all the way off.

The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand.

So fucking stupid, and still doing a tremendous amount of damage.

The low info voters probably won’t even notice or remember by their next lap around the goldfish bowl.

GOP baffled that ‘we don’t care if you die’ is not a winning slogan.

The Giant Orange Man Baby is having a bad day.

If a good thing happens for a bad reason, it’s still a good thing.

The rest of the comments were smacking Boebert like she was a piñata.

New McCarthy, same old McCarthyism.

I’d hate to be the candidate who lost to this guy.

“woke” is the new caravan.

The press swings at every pitch, we don’t have to.

Sitting here in limbo waiting for the dice to roll

Live so that if you miss a day of work people aren’t hoping you’re dead.

The Supreme Court cannot be allowed to become the ultimate, unaccountable arbiter of everything.

… riddled with inexplicable and elementary errors of law and fact

Since we are repeating ourselves, let me just say fuck that.

We need to vote them all out and restore sane Democratic government.

The “burn-it-down” people are good with that until they become part of the kindling.

Radicalized white males who support Trump are pitching a tent in the abyss.

A fool as well as an oath-breaker.

It’s the corruption, stupid.

There is no compromise when it comes to body autonomy. You either have it or you do not.

There are times when telling just part of the truth is effectively a lie.

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  1. 1.

    Raven

    We have a small bird and will do all the trimmings after i go down and fish till noon. Two days without a single bite but the weather is beautiful so there is that! Here’s last night’s sunset

    flic.kr/p/2o25Dys

  5. 5.

    mrmoshpotato

    @Raven:

    We have a small bird and will do all the trimmings after i go down and fish till noon. Two days without a single bite but the weather is beautiful so there is that! 

    I’m ok with a fish not biting me.

  7. 7.

    Amir Khalid

    Anwar was sworn in at 5pm Malaysian time, three hours ago. Only yesterday he was trolling the media gathered outside his office. They crowded around his car as he was leaving to ask if there was any news. “Here’s some popcorn,” he replied, handing a bag out the car window. “Go catch a movie.”

    ETA: I think he was caught a bit by surprise this morning, when Barisan Nasional abruptly changed its mind and agreed tojoining an alliance with Pakatan Harapan.

  9. 9.

    mrmoshpotato

    Traveling north to my sister’s and BiL’s to see his side of the family and feast this afternoon/evening.

  10. 10.

    OzarkHillbilly

    I don’t wonder for which god’s pleasure they act. They may give lip service to the Christian god but from what I see the only god they worship is mammon.

  12. 12.

    frosty

    The comments from around the world responding to the PSA about deep frying a turkey were funny. Worth the time to scroll and hit “more replies”.

    Happy T-Day everyone!

  13. 13.

    dmsilev

    Turkey is being prepped now; goes in the oven in about half an hour. Then mom and I start chopping and peeling and so on and so forth. Desserts were baked yesterday, so that’s done.

  14. 14.

    Amir Khalid

    @Baud:

    Well, kind of. I did say that between him, Muhyiddin Yassin and Ismail Sabri Yaakub, he seemed the least-bad choice for PM.

  16. 16.

    OzarkHillbilly

    When Jayme Erickson arrived at the scene of the crash on an icy stretch of Alberta highway on 15 November, she found a teenage girl with severe injuries that Erickson knew were probably fatal. Owing to the severity of the girl’s injuries, Erickson could not recognise her.

    Erickson worked for nearly half an hour to remove the girl from the vehicle and stayed with her until the teenager could be airlifted to a nearby hospital in Calgary.

    When Erickson got home at the end of her shift, she was met by police officers who said her 17-year-old daughter, Montana, had been the victim of the crash. She was advised that the injuries were “not compatible with life” and Montana was taken off life support.

    “The critically injured patient I had just attended to was my own flesh and blood. My only child. My mini me. My daughter, Montana,” she wrote to family and friends. “Although I am thankful for the 17 years I had with her, I am shattered and left wondering. What would you have become, my baby girl? Who would you have been?

    “I am shattered. I am broken. I am missing a piece of me. I am left to pick up the pieces and expected to carry on.”
    …………………
    Erickson said she wanted the world to know about the daughter she had lost. “She would love fiercely if you were her friend. She would love you to the end of the world and back and she would do anything for you. She was a fighter. And she fought,” she said.

    Words fail me.

  17. 17.

    OzarkHillbilly

    Today in animal news:

    X-ray discovers cat trapped inside checked bag at New York’s JFK airport

    It is assumed the furtive feline climbed into the baggage without being noticed as the passenger packed, before being unwittingly zipped inside, taken to the aircraft and checked in. As soon as the X-ray machine saw the cat, the luggage was opened. The cat was rescued safe and sound.

    Something tells me the cat was none too grateful. Probably said something along the lines of, “About damn time!”

    Alaska firefighters rescue baby moose trapped in home

    “It looks like the moose had been trying to eat some vegetation by the window well of a basement window and fell into it, and then fell into the basement through the glass,” Thompson said.

    A biologist from the Alaska department of fish and game was able to tranquilize the moose but the animal was not completely unconscious. “He was still looking around and sitting there, he just wasn’t running around,” Thompson said.

    Once sedated, the next problem was getting the moose – which weighed at least 500lb – out of the house. Improvising, responders grabbed a big transport tarp typically used as a stretcher for larger human patients. Once the moose was in position, it took six men to carry him through the house and outside.
    ………………………..
    Once the sedative wore off, the moose apparently had his fill of human companionship and wanted to get back to the wild. “He got up and took off,” Thompson said.

    A 500 lb “baby.”

  18. 18.

    JMG

    Happy Thanksgiving everyone! May whatever you do today bring you peace and pleasure. Many good smells emanating from the kitchen here where my children and my daughter-in-law are hard at work. They’re in the dessert baking cycle now. Then I’ll go onstage to make the oyster stuffing, stuff and prep the turkey, and into the oven.

  21. 21.

    comrade scotts agenda of rage

    Since we moved back to Denver, we go over to friends for Thanksgiving.  Normally it’s maybe 8 people, this year they’re hosting 20.  There are some whackadoodles in the bunch we’re sure so Plague exposure would normally be a consideration.

    We’re hoping, however, that because their 7-month pregnant daughter (first grandchild) will be there, that everybody attending will have taken that into consideration and either not come or be vaccinated or something.

    Our next door neighbor is battling cancer again, he’s in his early 70s and in a lot of pain, confined to home.  One of his daughters came up from Mexico, she’s unvaccinated, to stay with him.  Took him flowers and arranged for a Thanksgiving meal to be delivered to him and his daughter but he’s in a tough spot emotionally dealing with this.

  23. 23.

    Van Buren

    Because I am battling the worst cold I have had in a very long time, my fam won’t let me in the kitchen. I maintain that I am indispensable, and that there is no way that the 3 of them will be able to bake pies, roast a turkey, or make stuffing and gravy. All the other dishes either Ms. Van Buren or a kid will be able to make.

  24. 24.

    EmbraceYourInnerCrone

    @Raven: sounds lovely! And the sunset was. Gorgeous. We are doing similar, we are cooking the sides together and my husband is deep frying a turkey.  Then movie watching, dog walking and computer gaming (Guild Wars 2)

  26. 26.

    OzarkHillbilly

    It’s the time of year when millions of turkeys across the US might justifiably fear for their safety, but in one Massachusetts town the birds have turned the tables, ganging up to “terrorize” residents with pecks, kicks and loud clucking.

    People in Woburn, north-west of Boston, have been subjected to a barrage of attacks and intimidation by a group of five wild turkeys, with the situation forcing some to take up improvised weapons and residents reporting being trapped in their homes.

    The turkeys, led by a male bird nicknamed Kevin, arrived two years ago. Initially the birds were docile, but as time passed they have become ever more pugnacious, leaving Woburners fearful for their safetyand forced to adapt their behavior.

    “They don’t let you out of your house,” said Meaghan Tolson, who lives in Woburn and has named the turkeys.

    “They peck at cars, they stop traffic. They go after kids on bikes. If you’re walking or jogging, or anything like that, they come for you.”
    …………………..
    “Some days it is frustrating. I’ll be like: ‘Oh my God, there’s an Amazon package’ and I can’t go get it, because the turkeys are there. “Then I just have to wait until nightfall. I’ve kind of adjusted over time to it. I know their routine now, so I can kind of work around [them].”

    Ummmm… No. Just no.

    MassWildlife even has a guidance page on its website: “talking turkey”.

    “Don’t hesitate to scare or threaten a bold, aggressive turkey with loud noises, swatting with a broom or water sprayed from a hose,” MassWildlife says. According to a “living with wild turkeys” factsheet, residents can avoid conflict by not feeding them and keeping bird feeders raised off the ground. It also advises: “Don’t let turkeys intimidate you”.

  29. 29.

    japa21

    Today I am thankful for Paxlovid.  Tested positive on Tuesday.  Symptoms were pretty much the same as a bad cold with some chest pain when taking a deep breath.  Went on it right away and feel so much better already.  It did ruin our Thanksgiving plans.  We were going to northern Wisconsin to visit Mrs. Japa’s brother and SIL.  They are great people with their heads on straight.  However, some of the extended family is Trumpier than Trump, so may be a blessing in disguise.

  30. 30.

    Elizabelle

    @geg6:  Happy birthday!  Hope Koda and Lovey got you something spectacular.  Am sure John has the bday well in hand.

    Thank you for the roasted carrots with honey recipe in yesterday’s thread.  And:  so peeps don’t have to ask, here it is:

    Easiest thing on earth, which is why I laugh when my family requests it like it’s something secret.

    Trim and peel your carrots (you can cut them in half if you like) and set them out on a large sheet of aluminum foil (I like the non-stick kind).  Rub them with a little olive oil and sprinkle generously with sea salt and a little pepper.  Drizzle generously with honey and then a few pats of butter. Wrap it all up tight in a foil packet.  Roast in oven at 350F at least and hour (or more if a large packet).

  31. 31.

    Kay

    @twbrandt (formerly tom):

    It’s very funny. This, lol:

    It’s a lot of driving, but not by Michigan standards. In Michigan, no amount of driving is too much driving, nor any distance too short to drive. In Michigan, nothing is close enough to walk to, even when it is within eye shot. In Michigan you might drive to the place you already are, in order to pick up the car and go back to where you never left.

  34. 34.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    We’re going to our son and DIL’s house. We’re a little hesitant because we were exposed to covid Monday evening. That person didn’t test positive until Wednesday, and we both tested negative this morning, so I’m thinking we’re in the clear. Still, I’d hate to take them covid as a pre-Christmas present

  37. 37.

    Raven

    @geg6: Happy Birthday! I got greased by a wave and fell on my ass yesterday. People came running to my aid (I was fine, just couldn’t get up quickly) at 73 I wondered how long I can do this!

  39. 39.

    Rebelsdad (fka texasboyshaun)

    This will be my first holiday away from family in nearly 20 years. I love them but I’m glad to be 1600 miles away from the drama. I’m going to dinner with a friend and his family this afternoon at a fancy-schmancy French place (his choice of venue). Afterwards he wants to go to the gay bar for drinks which sounds like its own special hell but he’s buying the beer so I can’t complain too much. Besides, maybe some of these queens will be entertaining drunks!

    Happy Thanksgiving to all of you and your fur/scale/feather babies :)

  42. 42.

    Raven

    @Kay: Some 59 years ago me and some buds drive from Urbana to Traverse City to a cabin. We got pulled over by the State Patrol and tossed the bag. We drove another 50 miles, turned around and found the empty bag!! The wind got it!

  43. 43.

    frosty

    @geg6: It happens. I’ll channel my F-I-L: “Any birthday when you’re looking down at the grass instead of up is a good one.”

    He also had a book on the shelf: “Oh to be 50 Again” I thought it was weird when I was 30. Now I understand!

  44. 44.

    lowtechcyclist

    @OzarkHillbilly: ​
     

    I don’t wonder for which god’s pleasure they act. They may give lip service to the Christian god but from what I see the only god they worship is mammon.

    I dunno, all too many of them would put Moloch ahead of Mammon.

  46. 46.

    M31

    went to make the pecan pie yesterday and my brown sugar had gone rancid (?!? didn’t know that could happen)

    have some guests coming over later so they’ll bring some, I wasn’t about to hit a store Wednesday evening

    they’re bringing their corgi too so fun will be had by all

  48. 48.

    OzarkHillbilly

    Oldest cooked leftovers ever found suggest Neanderthals were foodies

    Charred remnants of what appears to be the world’s oldest cooked meal ever found have been unearthed in a cave complex in northern Iraq, prompting speculation that Neanderthals may have been foodies.

    “Our findings are the first real indication of complex cooking – and thus of food culture – among Neanderthals,” said Chris Hunt, a professor of cultural paleoecology at Liverpool John Moores University, who coordinated the excavation.

    Hunt and his colleagues have even tried to recreate one of the recipes, using seeds gathered from nearby the caves. “It made a sort of pancake-cum-flatbread which was really very palatable – a sort of nutty taste,” Hunt said.

    The burned food remnants – the oldest ever found – were recovered from the Shanidar Cave site, a Neanderthal dwelling 500 miles north of Baghdad in the Zagros Mountains. Thought to be about 70,000 years old, they were discovered in one of many ancient hearths in the caves.
    ……………………………..
    Hunt said: “Because the Neanderthals had no pots, we presume that they soaked their seeds in a fold of an animal skin.”

    However, unlike modern chefs, Neanderthals did not appear to hull their seeds to remove the outer coat – a process that largely eliminates bitter-tasting compounds. This could suggest that they wanted to reduce but not eliminate the pulses’ natural flavours. Assuming they pounded the seeds using local rocks, the final product may also have been somewhat gritty. “Having sampled the re-created recipe, I think we can understand why the Neanderthals had teeth in such a degraded state,” Hunt said.

  49. 49.

    lowtechcyclist

    @geg6:

    It’s my favorite holiday and my birthday. 64 years. Ugh. I’m getting old.

    Happy birthday! “Will you still need me, will you still feed me…”

    As my dear departed MIL used to say, “Getting old sucks.” And I’d always reply, “that’s why I’m having nothing to do with it.”

    I’m four years older than you, and that’s still the story I’m sticking to.  Eventually the years will catch up with me, but I’m doing my best to postpone that for as long as possible.

    @OzarkHillbilly: Massive moose!

    Majestik møøse!

  50. 50.

    Scout211

    My youngest and her family of 5 arrived late night night after three days at Disneyland. They are still asleep in the guest room, or the guest dormitory as it’s called here.  It may be a long time before they wake up so I have a few moments of quiet before I need to start breakfast and make the stuffing.

    Happy Thanksgiving, jackals!

    And a special greeting to all you shy lurkers.  Feel free to comment here in this controversy-free thread.  Everyone is welcome here.  😊

  54. 54.

    Geminid

    While I plan to dine alone, and on pork and chicken (+ sweet potatoes), in Mary Peltola’s honor my Thanksgiving toast will be her campaign slogan:

      To “Fish, Family, Freedom.”

  56. 56.

    eclare

    I am thankful for the sweetly snoring little pittie that I adopted on November 16.  Although sometimes the snoring gets so loud that I think that I am on a runway at O’Hare!  I may try earplugs…any other suggestions?

  57. 57.

    OzarkHillbilly

    @Chris T.: My sister’s cat had an intense curiosity about dryers. She was always climbing into it when my mother was loading it. Then the inevitable day came when my mother shut the dryer door not knowing the cat had snuck in. An hour later she pulled out one dead kitty.

    It can’t have been a pleasant way to go.

  62. 62.

    Skepticat

    The cats and I will spend the day (and the next week) packing for a move; I’ve finally found a house after a year and a half. It’s farther from the coast than I’d prefer, in lake and ski country, but I’m looking forward to having a place of my own again.

    Arbor Day is the only holiday I enjoy now, but I wish y’all a happy Thanksgiving.

  65. 65.

    evap

    I am thankful for  BJ and all of the commentators!   There will be 7 of us around the table this year, and we are going to be 100% vegetarian.  In fact, everything will be vegan apart from butter and cream in one batch of mashed potatoes.   I am making mushroom, chestnut, and pecan Wellington for the main course, it is all assembled and ready to go into the oven.  Another thing I am thankful for:  Pepperidge Farm puff pastry, which is vegan!

    We will have 3 pies for 7 people, I wonder if that will be enough…

  66. 66.

    eclare

    @evap:   Your Wellington sounds wonderful, and I bet the smell fills the house!

    Vegan puff pastry?  What kind of fat does it use instead of butter?

  67. 67.

    grandmaBear

    My son caught what appears to be the flu and is down for the count, so Thanksgiving will be delayed until the weekend. Hoping he’s at least up to eating by then. We’d only planned to have one guest over, so not as big a deal as it might have been. I think I’ll make some blackberry jam today with some pulp I froze this summer.

  69. 69.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @geg6:

    Today you are the cube of four,
    The square of eight, and so much more!

    Power six of number two,
    In black and white, a chessboard, you.

    The cube of four, the square of eight,
    A number fit to celebrate!

    Perfect cube and perfect square:
    Such perfection’s rather rare.

    A million, you, in binary;
    In Roman terms, LXIV.

    Are you feeling rather keen?
    Quadruple, then, the sweet sixteen.

    In 64 A.D., I learned,
    Nero fiddled while Rome burned.

    North latitude of 64°
    Knocks upon the Arctic door.

    McCartney (music), Lennon (sage)
    Wrote famously about your age.

    Play sixty-four fast notes as favours:
    Hemidemisemiquavers.

    geg6 turns sixty-four today
    I’ll lead a cheer: Hip, hip, hooray!

    Have a great birthday!

  71. 71.

    Ken

    @lowtechcyclist: I dunno, all too many of them would put Moloch ahead of Mammon.

    “In the spirit of ecumenicalism, we will enslave the children and work them to death, becoming rich in the process.”

  77. 77.

    eachother

    Mmm. Pi. Expect to gain 3.14 lbs this afternoon. Pies made. 🎃 (2). Stuffing (external) next. Internal stuffing later.

    Happy Thanksgiving
    Love, eachother.

  78. 78.

    Miss Bianca

    @twbrandt (formerly tom): OMG. I too am from Michigan (motto out here in CO, where you can’t throw a rock without hitting another Michiganian – “Michigan it’s a great place to be from”) and man, do I recognize what this guy is talking about!

  79. 79.

    Ken

    @eachother: Internal stuffing later.

    Of yourself, or of the turkey?

    It’s odd, but I now get nervous at the thought of stuffing the bird. We did it all the time when I was young. Though we also didn’t have seatbelts when I was young.

  80. 80.

    Another Scott

    Meanwhile, … Phys.org:

    A team of researchers has cracked a five century-old code which reveals a rumored French plot to kill the Holy Roman Emperor and King of Spain Charles V.

    Charles was one of the most powerful men of the 16th century, presiding over a vast empire that took in much of western Europe and the Americas during a reign of more than 40 years.

    It took the team from the Loria research lab in eastern France six months to decipher the letter written in 1547 by the emperor to his ambassador in France.

    […]

    In painstaking work backed by computers, Pierrot found “distinct families” of some 120 symbols used by Charles V.

    [ image ]
    Red herrings: the emperor used symbols which mean nothing to mislead his adversaries.

    “Whole words are encrypted with a single symbol” and the emperor replaced vowels coming after consonants with marks, she said, an inspiration probably coming from Arabic.

    In another obstacle, he also used symbols that mean nothing to mislead any adversary trying to decipher the message.

    The breakthrough came in June, when Pierrot managed to make out a phrase in the letter, and the team then cracked the code with the help of historian Camille Desenclos.

    “It was painstaking and long work but there was really a breakthrough that happened in one day, where all of a sudden we had the right hypothesis,” she said.

    Another letter from Jean de Saint-Mauris, where the receiver had doodled a form of transcription code in the margin, also helped.

    […]

    Clever doods.

    I’m reminded of “junk DNA” – segments which supposedly “do nothing”. That we know of. So far.

    Number one rule in cryptography: Never doodle in the margins!!11

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  82. 82.

    thruppence

    This will be our first Thanksgiving without our mother (grandmother, great grandmother), who usually presided over the dinner. Everyone wants her particular stuffing. I’m making cranberry sauce and also deviled egg appetizers. There’s been some recent family conflict, but I hope everyone can hold it together for a few hours.

  85. 85.

    geg6

    Awww, you guys!  Thanks for all the good wishes.  May everyone enjoy the day.  It’s a glorious fall day here and I’m getting over whatever crud I had, so I’m happy.

  86. 86.

    J R in WV

    @Amir Khalid:

    Now you too have something to be thankful for, along with 51+% of Americans who voted for liberal Democracy this month. Interesting fellow according to the BBC explainer I read, overcame a lot of rancid political attacks in his recent past.

    Sounds like the King got everyone in his office and told them “You can’t leave until we have a Prime Minister!” — get to work you slackers! Good for him for taking charge and getting it done!!

    That last part isn’t in quotes, but I’m sure it is what he was thinking to himself…               ;~)

  87. 87.

    J R in WV

    I had a big day yesterday, starting with an early afternoon appointment with my orthopedic surgeon, who replaced my shoulders back in 2016, along with Wife’s knees. I have bad knees, worse hips, and something going on with my back which he declined to diagnose specifically after that x-ray. Toldme to see my family practice Dr, whom he knows well who may refer me to a neurosurgeon who works on spines and saved Wife last spring.

    Also — Got a giant injection of steroids into my worse knee, left, which made me gasp, though not twitch. Seems to have helped some. Very little cartilage in knees and hips, scary x-rays. Also have a appointment next month for surgery to remove an incipient tumor in my bladder. Hurray! Hope to meet with urologist/surgeon to discuss that soon.

    Then off to shop for T-day foodstuffs. Went to Steak and Seafood shop, where I bought oysters, scallops and shrimp, thence to Kroger’s which was a madhouse, but thankful, everyone was being on their best behavior, asking please could you tall person reach that thin o the top shelf? Thank you so much, etc, etc. Was somewhat surprised, but really, everyone was totally polite and helpful. Was pitch dark when I got home! I stopped at Family Dollar and bought a $5.89 headlamp to negotiate the path up to the front door.

    I have a little utility wagon I use to move provisions up to the house ( and trash beck down), it’s 230′ of uphill, with one sharp switchback 1/3 of the way up. At which point I had to dump the big bag of DF kibble and one sack of groceries, as the cart was too heavy for me to get rolling after the switchback. That stuff is still out there, I hope the dogs didn’t spread it all over the hillside. Going to look after I finish my coffee. Slept til 11 am thanks to modern medicine, after a V long Wednesday. Had nice love session with the two big dogs, which are cuddle bunnies.

    No bird this year — just the Wife and I for dinner, which is going to be seafood with deviled eggs and a big mixed greens salad, and a store bought pecan pie, which we have had before, it’s quite tolerable. Should have bought heavy cream to whip, oh well, can use the butter pecan ice-cream instead…

    Happy Holidays, everyone.

  88. 88.

    NotMax

    @J R in WV

    Should you have a can of evaporated milk hanging about, can use that to make a substitute topping. Crucial that the bowl and the attachment(s) need to be cold, cold, cold. Works as well without addition of any sugar or flavoring.

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