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Foreign Affairs Open Thread: The Bolsonaro From Brazil

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Bolsonaro might quite plausibly need medical care — he’s had repeated hospitalizations for bowel obstructions since surviving an assassination attempt some years ago, not to mention suffering the aftereffects of multiple coronavirus infections. And no doubt it’s very stressful when your supporters’ attempts to overthrow your legitimately elected successor fail miserably and publicly.

NPR has more details:

Google Translate: White House: Biden invited Lula to visit Washington in early February. Lula accepted the invitation.

Google Translate: SEE: Bolsonaro family dolls dressed as inmates on Avenida Paulista.

And that request would be made to the Department of Homeland Security.
It is incumbent on visa holder to make that request to change their status or leave the country.

Asked if individual does not do either or those things, (leave or change their visa status), what happens, Price says:
If an individual has no basis to be in US, the individual is subject to removal by [the Department of] Homeland Security.

Asked about prospect an A visa holder might have entered US on a different visa, Price said: I would be hard-pressed to think of scenario when sitting head of state would travel on something other than A visa if that person was here on something for official business.

Just last week:

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  1. 1.

    Baud

    In 2019, Eduardo Bolsonaro (one of the sons) joined Steve Bannon’s far-right nationalist group called The Movement

    More like The Bowel Movement.

  2. 2.

    There go two miscreants

    I’m not clever enough to re-write Blame It On The Bossa Nova for this, but it should scan nicely and someone surely already has.​

    ETA: Where are Barry and Cynthia when you need them?

  4. 4.

    piratedan

    @Baud: agreed, but the amount of….. crap that these folks are generating for the rest of us…. I sit back and wonder what fucking judge in their right mind leaves Bannon roaming free on the street to create more crime before he reports to serve his sentence?

  6. 6.

    David 🌈☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch

    This is surprising, Bolsonaro is usually a pain in the ass

  7. 7.

    Mike in NC

    Surely south Florida can accommodate two would-be dictators. Trump and Bolsonaro ought to come up with a power-sharing plan that both would approve of. Trump can rule during the odd months and Bolsonaro during the even ones. DeSantis, meanwhile, has set his sights on the White House. Imagine him trying to deal with Putin! I say that as somebody who fervently hopes to never set foot in Floriduh ever again.

  11. 11.

    Frankensteinbeck

    Wow, the Supreme Court in the US sure doesn’t have the power to send out an arrest warrant.  Unlike right wingers in the US, I guess they don’t appreciate being collateral targets.

    If Bolsonaro did plan this… I mean, the whole plan hinged on the rioters’ belief that the military would see the uprising and join their side, launching the real coup.  You would think Bolsonaro would know whether or not Brazil’s military was interested – which, thankfully, it isn’t.

  12. 12.

    prostratedragon

    @Frankensteinbeck: ​ From what folks around and about have said, one would think someone would have told him before hand not to count on the generals. That last time must have been a doozy to have killed interest for more than a generation now.

  14. 14.

    Frankensteinbeck

    @prostratedragon: ​
    Maybe… he’s just a complete dumbass like Trump? All I know about the guy is that he’s a raging Cleek’s Law style right wing asshole. It’s hard to credit idiots rising to the top in other countries, but America isn’t unique.

  15. 15.

    oatler

    “Lisa, the boys from Brazil are little Hitlers! It was in that movie! whose name I can’t remember!”

  17. 17.

    geg6

    @Frankensteinbeck:

    From what I’ve read in various online outlets, that was exactly the plan.  They expected the cops and then the military to join them.  They never expected to be arrested.  Same stupid dipshits as the Trumpists.

  19. 19.

    philostopher

    @geg6:

    Stupider, in one particular way – Trump was still sitting in the White House when his minions tried to overrun the US Capitol. Lula da Silva was inaugurated over a week ago, now – at the very least, he occupies their equivalent of the White House, and ostensibly has whatever control of the military and law enforcement Brazilian heads of state have.

  20. 20.

    Mel

    @Argiope: I’m no Subaru Diane at this, for sure, but here’s a stanza while we await her poetic majesty!

    …Blame it on the KFC
    with its delicious smell!

    Blame it on the orange tan, and the cheap toupee so swell.

    Oh, it all began with a little Putin dance, but soon it ended up a fascist romance.

    Blame it on the oligarchs, falling from above…

  21. 21.

    Anonymous At Work

    Wait, so, there’s an illegal immigrant in Florida and DeathSantis isn’t sending him packing immediately?  Why isn’t that front page news at NYT?

  23. 23.

    Frankensteinbeck

    @geg6: ​

    They never expected to be arrested. Same stupid dipshits as the Trumpists.

    Exactly like the Trumpists. They were shocked, gobsmacked, when the FBI started rounding them up. It’s why I say the light defense of the Capitol was the only reason it happened. The Jan 6th rioters only did it because they were sure they would face no consequences.

  27. 27.

    Ken

    @Anonymous At Work: Not just the one, Bolsonaro travelled with a bunch of supporters. And he’s gone to the hospital with some yet-to-be-diagnosed ailment. So Fox should be trotting out their boilerplate story about a caravan of diseased South American migrants any minute now, right?

  29. 29.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    I would imagine from a South American POV the coup happening while Bolsonaro is off in the Great Northern Gringo Meddler itself, the United States, would make any self respecting Brazilians’ skin crawl. This whole thing is so blazingly stupid from start to finish that Steve Banon has to be the drunken fool that came up with it.

  30. 30.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    @Ken: Banon’s South American Sockpuppet was posting on twitter from his hospital bed and he does look just miserable and he was saying he needs to get back to doctors in Brazil since they know the denials of his condition.

  31. 31.

    Kent

    BREAKING 🇧🇷: Federal deputy Erika Hilton has officially submitted a request to the Foreign Ministry to initiate the extradition of Jair Bolsonaro from the United States.

    I thought we didn’t have an extradition treaty with Brazil.  Or has that changed recently

    EDIT:  Googled it.  Apparently we do but Brazil refuses to extradite Brazilian nationals.

  32. 32.

    Jay C

     

    @prostratedragon:

    according to most reports I’ve read, Bolsonaro had already run an appeal to overturn the election results by the Brazilian military brass shortly after the vote. And they flatly refused to get involved.

  34. 34.

    The Moar You Know

    As I mentioned in a previous thread, I’ve had the same surgery as Bolsonaro had, although there is no doubt that his was more severe.  My damage was at least done by a surgeon.

    Small bowel obstruction kills and he’s had at least five go-rounds since the attempt on his life that have made the media.  He doesn’t take care of his diet and he’ll be dead soon enough I expect.

    In the meantime rest assured his every waking moment is pain.  You can’t take opiates for bowel issues.

    If you think I feel sorry for him, well, I do to an extent. Doesn’t change that he’s a complete shit human being, but I know how he feels physically and he cannot be enjoying his life.  At all.

  35. 35.

    Kent

    @Jay C:according to most reports I’ve read, Bolsonaro had already run an appeal to overturn the election results by the Brazilian military brass shortly after the vote. And they flatly refused to get involved.

    If they didn’t do it then, they won’t do it now.  Most Latin American militaries are smart enough to no longer want to get involved in coups and leading civilian government.  All that gets them is blame for everything that goes wrong in the country from shitty roads to sporadic electrical service to bad schools.   Much better to just grift away behind the scenes and let the civilian leaders take the fall for whatever goes wrong.

  38. 38.

    Bruce K in ATH-GR

    @eldorado:

    you aren’t the boss of me

    No, but apparently if you take opiates when you have bowel issues, your lower GI tract will be the boss of you, and treat you like Elon Musk treats underlings who displease him.

  39. 39.

    GibberJack

    Bolsonaro collapsed and was rushed to the hospital where doctors had to pump a pint of semen out of his stomach.

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