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Case Closed: It Was Alito

by Betty Cracker|  January 19, 20233:05 pm| 68 Comments

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WaPo reports the inquiry into the SCOTUS leak of the Dobbs opinion draft has reached an unsatisfactory conclusion:

The Supreme Court disclosed Thursday that it cannot identify the person who leaked a draft of Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization, the opinion that overturned Roe v. Wade.

A report from Supreme Court Marshal Gail Curley said “it is not possible to determine the identity of any individual who may have disclosed the document or how the draft opinion ended up with Politico. No one confessed to publicly disclosing the document and none of the available forensic and other evidence provided a basis for identifying any individual as the source of the document.”

There’s strong evidence that Alito leaked the Hobby Lobby opinion to wealthy conservative donors weeks before the official ruling. [NYT gift link] Ask yourself who benefited from the Dobbs leak. Case closed.

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    1. 1.

      NotMax

      January 19, 2023 at 3:09 pm

      Don’t so quickly dismiss Thomas’ wife as the culprit.

      Just sayin’.

      Reply
    2. 2.

      Craig

      January 19, 2023 at 3:09 pm

      Fuck that guy

      Reply
    3. 3.

      jonas

      January 19, 2023 at 3:11 pm

      Shit, that Alito is a piece of work, isn’t he? GW Bush was a really shitty president, whose list of shitty achievements is long, but at the top of that list are 1. Lying about WMDs and 2. Samuel Alito.

      Reply
    4. 4.

      JoyceH

      January 19, 2023 at 3:11 pm

      Ha! As soon as I saw the story on the news, I had the same reaction – it was Alito.

      Reply
    5. 5.

      trollhattan

      January 19, 2023 at 3:14 pm

      We don’t know who it is, just that it rhymes with Fanmule Burrito.

      Reply
    6. 6.

      Cacti

      January 19, 2023 at 3:16 pm

      Alito or Thomas.

      Reply
    7. 7.

      Sure Lurkalot

      January 19, 2023 at 3:19 pm

      I definitely think it’s Tinny Ghomas.

      Reply
    8. 8.

      robmassing

      January 19, 2023 at 3:19 pm

      “cannot identify” doesn’t mean they don’t know. They just are prevented from identifying because it would be too embarrassing to Sammy and the other 5 Christo-fascists.

      Reply
    9. 9.

      Old School

      January 19, 2023 at 3:21 pm

      Did they consider using enhanced interrogation methods on Politico staff?

      Reply
    10. 10.

      Baud

      January 19, 2023 at 3:22 pm

      It’s not clear that any of the justices were even interviewed.

      Reply
    11. 11.

      Gravenstone

      January 19, 2023 at 3:23 pm

      @robmassing: This, right here! It would be “inconvenient” to highlight Sammy’s duplicity in pursuit of his own power.

      Reply
    12. 12.

      oatler

      January 19, 2023 at 3:26 pm

      Fanmule!

      Reply
    13. 13.

      tobie

      January 19, 2023 at 3:26 pm

      Hmm…is John Roberts covering for his ideological compadres again? I know he didn’t side with the conservative wing in this instance but he’s still far closer to them than Jackson, Kagan and Sotomayor.

      Reply
    14. 14.

      trollhattan

      January 19, 2023 at 3:28 pm

      @tobie:

      “Balls and strikes.”
      “Sir, this is hockey.”

      Reply
    15. 15.

      Omnes Omnibus

      January 19, 2023 at 3:28 pm

      Well, yeah.

      Reply
    16. 16.

      Old School

      January 19, 2023 at 3:28 pm

      @Baud:

      It’s not clear that any of the justices were even interviewed.

      That’s what I wondered.

      She also noted that her team of attorneys and federal investigators “conducted 126 formal interviews of 97 employees, all of whom denied disclosing the opinion.”

      Reply
    17. 17.

      Omnes Omnibus

      January 19, 2023 at 3:30 pm

      @tobie: This was a performative investigation.  No intent of finding a culprit.

      Reply
    18. 18.

      Baud

      January 19, 2023 at 3:30 pm

      I’m just glad a liberal wasn’t framed or scapegoated.

      Reply
    19. 19.

      Feathers

      January 19, 2023 at 3:31 pm

      This is reason enough to expand the court.

      We don’t have enough circuit courts anyway. The whole Federal court system needs an overhaul.

      Reply
    20. 20.

      SpaceUnit

      January 19, 2023 at 3:31 pm

      I’ve never really understood this story.  Were the conservative justices hoping to keep their ruling hush until after the 2022 elections?

      Reply
    21. 21.

      UncleEbeneezer

      January 19, 2023 at 3:31 pm

      Alito’s actions make me suspect it was him, but if we are going by who benefits most, at least idealogically, isn’t ACB the most virulent Forced Birther on SCOTUS?

      Reply
    22. 22.

      mrmoshpotato

      January 19, 2023 at 3:31 pm

      @jonas: I gotta argue that Shrub’s #1 achievement was stealing the presidency itself.

      Or whoever orchestrated that.  Looking at you, Darth Cheney!

      Reply
    23. 23.

      JPL

      January 19, 2023 at 3:32 pm

      What a bullshit investigation.

      Reply
    24. 24.

      laura

      January 19, 2023 at 3:33 pm

      This salty bitch wishes every bad thing that can and should befall a Sam Alito and when he kicks I’m going to dance a drunken jig in celebration.  Fuck that white male christofascist shite-bag and all who’ve assisted him in his devious political decision making including Janus and Dobbs.

      Reply
    25. 25.

      Baud

      January 19, 2023 at 3:33 pm

      The only solution left is to treat Dobbs as a nullity and keep Roe in place until all of the justices who were on the Court during Dobbs are replaced.

      Reply
    26. 26.

      JPL

      January 19, 2023 at 3:34 pm

      @SpaceUnit: No.   It’s possible that the leak occurred so others would not change their mind.

      Reply
    27. 27.

      Omnes Omnibus

      January 19, 2023 at 3:35 pm

      @UncleEbeneezer: Arguable.  And Alito has form.  He has leaked in the past.

      Reply
    28. 28.

      laura

      January 19, 2023 at 3:35 pm

      @SpaceUnit: the story is that Alito leaked the draft decision to prevent John Roberts and any others from peeling off and joining the minority of liberal justices and then he polished some wood.

      Reply
    29. 29.

      Omnes Omnibus

      January 19, 2023 at 3:38 pm

      @laura: I love your use of understatement and your decision to avoid invective.

      Reply
    30. 30.

      NotMax

      January 19, 2023 at 3:43 pm

      @SpaceUnit

      Not possible, as far as I discern (IANAL). Rulings for the session are released by the end of June. New session convenes in October. Cannot put a hold on a completed ruling in order to carry it over from one session to the next.

      Reply
    31. 31.

      cain

      January 19, 2023 at 3:54 pm

      It was Alito and Ginny in the Library with  a rope.

      Reply
    32. 32.

      Mr. Longform

      January 19, 2023 at 3:56 pm

      It seems clear it was a justice because they would have thrown a small fry under the bus gladly; and if it was a justice, then the chances of it being Alito and/or Thomas(es) is (scientifically) a gazillion percent.

      Reply
    33. 33.

      mvr

      January 19, 2023 at 3:59 pm

      @Mr. Longform: Yeah, I’m not sure this increases my credence in its having been a justice (it was already high), but the fact that their language is compatible with not having questioned any justices does somewhat support that theory.

      Reply
    34. 34.

      Suzanne

      January 19, 2023 at 4:03 pm

      @Omnes Omnibus: 

      And Alito has form.  He has leaked in the past.

       
      Why this schmuck still has a job is beyond me.

      Reply
    35. 35.

      Nora

      January 19, 2023 at 4:12 pm

      @Suzanne: Because the last time a Supreme Court Justice was impeached was in 1804, and the Senate acquitted him.  The whole system is set up to make it really difficult to get rid of a Supreme Court Justice, if that justice doesn’t have the integrity to resign in the face of obvious improprieties (Abe Fortas, for instance).

      Reply
    36. 36.

      WaterGirl

      January 19, 2023 at 4:19 pm

      @Omnes Omnibus: And it wasn’t even much of a performance!

      It’s not clear that they even interviewed the justices!  What a joke.

      Reply
    37. 37.

      ETtheLibrarian

      January 19, 2023 at 4:20 pm

      Them doing nothing when Roberts made such a big deal out of it, always was going to mean it was a Justice (or their spouse). They would have totally hung to dry and made an example of anyone else.

      Reply
    38. 38.

      Jim, Foolish Literalist

      January 19, 2023 at 4:20 pm

      In the car about half an hour ago, an MSNBC reporter rather breathlessly informed me that they had even brought in Michael Chertoff! To which my brain responded, “Oh, so the fix was in”, which is not I think what the reporter meant to convey

      Reply
    39. 39.

      Baud

      January 19, 2023 at 4:24 pm

      @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

      Recently, this Court consulted Michael Chertoff.
      Mr. Chertoff is a former Secretary of Homeland Security,
      Judge of the U. S. Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit,
      Assistant Attorney General for the Criminal Division of the U. S. Department of Justice, and U. S. Attorney for the District of New Jersey. We invited Mr. Chertoff to assess the Marshal’s investigation. He has advised that the Marshal “undertook a thorough investigation” and, “[a]t this time, I cannot identify any additional useful investigative measures” not already undertaken or underway. Statement from Michael Chertoff 1 (2023). A copy of Mr. Chertoff’s statement is attached

       
      Apparently, Mr. Chertoff is now with The Chertoff Group.

      Reply
    40. 40.

      JPL

      January 19, 2023 at 4:27 pm

      Wallace is destroying the court and their desire to bury the report.

      Reply
    41. 41.

      trollhattan

      January 19, 2023 at 4:28 pm

      @Suzanne: Our sole hope is he decides to go hunting with Cheney.

      They take the whole lifetime appointment thing seriously.

      Reply
    42. 42.

      randy khan)

      January 19, 2023 at 4:30 pm

      Alito would be my guess, too, but there easily could be a Thomas connection instead.  Even just Justice Thomas taking a paper copy home and his wife making a copy that she handed to someone.  I also wouldn’t be surprised if one of them gave a copy to a friend (to the extent they have actual friends and not merely functional relationships), thinking it would be kept private.  Heck, it wouldn’t surprise me if copies were circulating among the anti-abortion folks for a while before it became public.

      Reply
    43. 43.

      Jim, Foolish Literalist

      January 19, 2023 at 4:35 pm

      @Baud: TBH, I was confusing Chertoff with Michael Mukasey, who is much worse, but Chertoff has a pretty partisan bio

      Reply
    44. 44.

      prostratedragon

      January 19, 2023 at 4:36 pm

      @Baud: ​What I was thinking.

      Reply
    45. 45.

      WaterGirl

      January 19, 2023 at 4:43 pm

      @JPL: Wallace?

      Reply
    46. 46.

      WV Blondie

      January 19, 2023 at 4:48 pm

      @WaterGirl:  Presumably Nicole Wallace on MSNBC. I haven’t started watching yet, but it’s recorded so I can get caught up.

      Reply
    47. 47.

      Redshift

      January 19, 2023 at 4:49 pm

      Yep, that was my immediate reaction to the headline – “not possible to determine” means “it wasn’t someone Roberts wants to publicly blame for it.”

      Either Roberts already knew and the investigation was a sham, or he didn’t know exactly who but he made sure s bad result wouldn’t come out. And the Court’s tattered reputation takes another hit.

      Anyone want to guess how long until Alito’s next harrumphing about how inappropriate it is to doubt the high priesthood in response to a failed investigation that we’re not allowed to see the details of?

      Reply
    48. 48.

      mrmoshpotato

      January 19, 2023 at 4:52 pm

      New Olive and Mabel!

      Dogs of the Mountains

      Reply
    49. 49.

      David 🌈☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch

      January 19, 2023 at 4:57 pm

      @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Chertoff was head of DHS during Katrina.

       

      “That ‘perfect storm’ of a combination of catastrophes exceeded the foresight of the planners, and maybe anybody’s foresight,” Chertoff said.

      He called the disaster “breathtaking in its surprise.”

       
      EVERY news channel said it would be category 5 and he was surprised.

      Surprise!

      Typical Dubya – only the best people

      Reply
    50. 50.

      JPL

      January 19, 2023 at 5:05 pm

      @WV Blondie: Thanks.   I had to step away and you’re right.

      Reply
    51. 51.

      pajaro

      January 19, 2023 at 5:07 pm

      @Redshift:

      My guess, and it’s just a guess, is that Roberts did this because he felt he had to, given the bruhaha that followed the leak.  I also assume he would have been fine to have discovered that some custodian did it.  But there was no way he was going to try and pin it on a member of the Court, and it would have shredded the norms that exist in that building to have put the Justices under oath.

      there was a Wall Street Journal article the weekend  before the leak that stated that it was likely there were enough votes to overturn Roe, but that there were efforts to peel off some of the conservative Republicans.  To put it mildly, the Journal does not cultivate many sources on the left.  And the value of a leaker putting the article out there would be to try and nail in the votes that were there to overturn.  Add to it that it was Sam Alito who did the draft, and that he has previously been willing to leak information, and my money is on him, with the Thomas family a second pick.

      Reply
    52. 52.

      David 🌈☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch

      January 19, 2023 at 5:09 pm

      What a president should do during a disaster:

      LBJ Did What Came Naturally. On September 9, 1965, category 4 Hurricane Betsy stormed ashore at New Orleans, Louisiana, killing more than 75 people, flooding much of the city, and plunging the city into chaos.

      ***

      Night fell as Johnson toured the city. At one point he came upon a shelter where a large number of blacks had taken refuge. The people apparently did not know that the man visiting them was the President of the United States. Johnson grabbed a flashlight, illuminated his face, and announced into a megaphone, “My name is Lyndon Baines Johnson. I am your president. I am here to make sure you have the help you need!”

      Reply
    53. 53.

      Ken B

      January 19, 2023 at 5:18 pm

      Definitely Alito.

      If Ginny had done it, she’d have bragged about in some right wing shindig on an open mic.

      If Clarence had done it, Ginny would have bragged about it on an open mic.

      Reply
    54. 54.

      Gin & Tonic

      January 19, 2023 at 5:23 pm

      @Baud: I’m going to bet that’s a finite simple group.

      Reply
    55. 55.

      lashonharangue

      January 19, 2023 at 5:23 pm

      From the article

      But neither Alito nor the court’s other eight justices were eyed in the investigation, according to an official report.

      Reply
    56. 56.

      zhena gogolia

      January 19, 2023 at 5:26 pm

      @lashonharangue: No one is above the law! Except the Supreme Court.

      Reply
    57. 57.

      Elizabelle

      January 19, 2023 at 5:30 pm

      David Crosby has died.  Per The Guardian.

      Reply
    58. 58.

      Ghost of Joe Liebling’s Dog

      January 19, 2023 at 5:37 pm

      @Baud:

      Apparently, Mr. Chertoff is now with The Chertoff Group.

       
      One would have been more’n enough; there’s more?

      Reply
    59. 59.

      J R in WV

      January 19, 2023 at 5:52 pm

      @UncleEbeneezer: ​

      isn’t ACB the most virulent Forced Birther on SCOTUS?

      While this is true, I doubt that Amy Forced Birth has the courage to release a draft opinion like this, being newly appointed, and subject to her husband’s will as she is. On the other hand, maybe HE told her to drop it off to Politico? Then she would have no choice…

      Reply
    60. 60.

      J R in WV

      January 19, 2023 at 5:59 pm

      @pajaro:

      it would have shredded the norms that exist in that building to have put the Justices under oath.

      You appear to believe that these conservative “justices” would hesitate to lie to investigators after lying bold faced to Senatorial questioners in their confirmation hearings. I doubt that — all of them would have lied without any hesitation. They are all morality free.

      Reply
    61. 61.

      prostratedragon

      January 19, 2023 at 6:13 pm

      The thought police strike on the same day as Rep. Mfume nominates Elijah Cummings for a stamp:

      Today I noticed that the House website has been scrubbed of the report Elijah Cummings compiled detailing Mike Flynn and Donald Trump's attempts to sell our nuclear technology to Saudi Arabia bypassing our treaties and Congress… good thing I saved a copy! Read this and share!— RyanP is just waiting for justice ⏳️⚖️ (@PerspectiveRoll) January 19, 2023

      Of course, this is an attempt to do something even worse than policing mere thought.

      Reply
    62. 62.

      Mike in Pasadena

      January 19, 2023 at 6:31 pm

      @jonas: Let us remember condoning torture, sorry, enhanced interrogation. In Dickless Cheney’s words, “We had to go to the dark side.”

      Reply
    63. 63.

      dimmsdale

      January 19, 2023 at 7:10 pm

      Apparently Alito has claimed the leak opened up the right-wing justices to assassination attempts. Unless there were ACTUAL attempts, I find this odd and not entirely credible—lefties attempting to assassinate the Holy 6? Really?

      Then the cynical me remembered the acronym DARVO–Deny the Assault, then Reverse Victim and Offender. By which, Alito might be trying to tell us that the REAL victims here are not America’s women, who’ve lost a 50-plus year constitutional right, but Sammy Alito and the rest of the Holy 6 who are threatened by the fantasy of left-wing assassination?

      But that’s so cynical I almost didn’t type it out. Almost.

      Reply
    64. 64.

      Frankensteinbeck

      January 19, 2023 at 7:17 pm

      @dimmsdale:

      Didn’t someone threaten Kavanaugh?  I remember there was a big blow-up about it, but I don’t remember any details.

      Reply
    65. 65.

      Bex

      January 19, 2023 at 7:18 pm

      @J R in WV: They all lied in their confirmation hearings.  The concept is not new to them.

      Reply
    66. 66.

      MisterForkbeard

      January 19, 2023 at 7:41 pm

      @Frankensteinbeck: Not really? If I remember right, some guy brought a gun and went to Kavanaugh’s house with the potential aim of killing him, but turned himself into police.

      The gun was not loaded.

      Reply
    67. 67.

      KayInMD (formerly Kay (not the front-pager))

      January 19, 2023 at 7:56 pm

      @Frankensteinbeck: Someone Came to a street block away from Kavanaugh’s house with a gun, changed his mind, and called the police on himself. It was, if anything, a pretty inept “assassination attempt.”

      Reply
    68. 68.

      Manyakitty

      January 19, 2023 at 8:41 pm

      @NotMax: totally. She was the one I thought of.

      Reply

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