go ahead, you fucking maniacs, boycott CFA. i promise, no one will stop you.
— GOLIKEHELLMACHINE (@golikehellmachi) May 30, 2023
When the performer is affiliated with Turning Point-USA, you know it’s about denouncing for dollars…
“You are no longer the Lord’s chicken. You’re actually the woke chicken.” https://t.co/4EUCwdzPV6
— Ben Collins (@oneunderscore__) June 2, 2023
This woman’s Target freakout was on Fox News a couple of days ago. It didn’t really take so now she’s going after Woke Fil A. There is no bottom to this garbage. There is an economy propping it up and, trust me, I’ve been covering it for about a decade now, it is unstoppable.
— Ben Collins (@oneunderscore__) June 2, 2023
The funny part is they've had the DEI policies for at least five or six years now, if not more.
— Emil Caillaux (@emilcDC) June 2, 2023
While on the topic of ‘pious for the payoffs’ hypocrites…
There is still no major public backlash, there are sociopaths brain poisoned by social media who want to harass target employees for clout https://t.co/bNtcgSi0eT
— Centrist ??Madness (@CentristMadness) June 3, 2023
Sir this was literally you https://t.co/GfQwpO2Joy pic.twitter.com/bAnPaHfYnu
— Katelyn Burns (@transscribe) June 3, 2023
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Far happier news:
the deal you get when only one side really cares about governing:
"the Biden team was willing to give Republicans victories on political talking points, which McCarthy needed to sell the bill.
"But in the text details, Biden wanted to win on substance."
https://t.co/I77lLOcN77— John Harwood (@JohnJHarwood) June 3, 2023
Shalanda Young couldn’t sleep.
A small team of Biden administration officials had spent the past two days in intense negotiations with House Republicans in an attempt to avert a catastrophic government default. Ms. Young, the White House budget director, had been trading proposals on federal spending caps with negotiators deputized by Speaker Kevin McCarthy, whose Republican caucus was refusing to raise the nation’s $31.4 trillion borrowing limit without deep cuts.
Now, as she scrolled Netflix in search of “bad television” to distract her racing mind, Ms. Young had a sinking feeling. What if she cut a deal to reduce spending and raise the debt limit, only to see Republicans attempt to force through much deeper cuts when it came time to pass annual appropriations bills this fall?
At work the next morning, Ms. Young asked her staff how to stop that from happening. They settled on a plan, which in essence would penalize Republicans’ most cherished spending programs if they failed to follow the contours of the agreement. Then they forced Republicans to include that plan in the legislative text codifying the deal.
That approach reflected a broader strategy President Biden’s team followed in the debt limit negotiations, according to interviews with current and former administration officials, some Republicans and other people familiar with the talks.
On Saturday, that strategy reached its conclusion as Mr. Biden signed the Fiscal Responsibility Act of 2023 into law, just days before a potential default and following weeks of talks and a revolt from right-wing lawmakers in the House that put an agreement at risk of collapse.
In pursuit of an agreement, the Biden team was willing to give Republicans victory after victory on political talking points, which they realized Mr. McCarthy needed to sell the bill to his conference. They let Mr. McCarthy’s team claim in the end that the deal included deep spending cuts, huge clawbacks of unspent federal coronavirus relief money and stringent work requirements for recipients of federal aid.
But in the details of the text and the many side deals that accompanied it, the Biden team wanted to win on substance. With one large exception — a $20 billion cut in enforcement funding for the Internal Revenue Service — they believe they did…
In other words Biden won: In truth, the legislation marked a radical departure from the roughly $3.5 trillion in cuts Republicans aimed for over the next decade. https://t.co/pnjlrAuciC
— Jennifer Rubin (@JRubinBlogger) June 3, 2023
None these tix-rocks really explain whether McCarthy was hoodwinked or knew he was getting nothing but didn’t care. It is a lot of posturing.. the poof Biden got what he wanted
— Jennifer Rubin (@JRubinBlogger) June 3, 2023
Baud
🌈🐔
Baud
Ken
Darn, I thought we were going to do more pointing and laughing at Mike Pence and Casey DeSantis getting geared up as “Leather Couple of the Year” to win the coveted biker demographic.
I guess pointing and laughing at stellar negotiator Kevin McCarthy will have to do.
Matt McIrvin
It always amazes me when they lie about recent history that anyone can remember. Stuff they said ten years ago is in the memory hole.
Baud
@Matt McIrvin:
They just don’t care. It’s about today’s talking point. Here, the talking point is about passing the buck to LGBT for forcing the right to act the way they do.
Michael Bersin
The Warrensburg, Missouri Pride Festival on Saturday went off without a hitch – with the help of a lot of volunteers, four armed private security professionals at the entrance/exits and inside the venue, and Warrensburg Police officers and vehicles stationed in the parking lot.
Warrensburg, Missouri Pride Festival – hand wringing, pearl clutching, and sign waving in the noonday sun – June 3, 2023
And:
Warrensburg, Missouri Pride Festival – June 3, 2023
We spent eight hours at the Pride Festival. Had a couple of [right wingnut banned] beers from the bar, some pizza by the slice, and acquired some free swag along with some purchases from vendors (rainbow flag!).
Anne Laurie
Oh, it doesn’t take them nearly that long! Remember poor Ron Ziegler, Nixon’s press secretary, explaining that ‘Those previous statements… are now inoperative’?
Almost Retired
Ben Shapiro is grousing about DEI being contrary to Christian values and what is taught in the Bible. How exactly is that? Please do explain, Rev. Shapiro. Sure, there may be some indiscriminate smiting in the books attributed to some of the grumpier prophets, but the Gospels would seem to support DEI aligning nicely with DEI measures
Baud
@Michael Bersin: 👍
Dorothy A. Winsor
There’s a lot of competition, so the Chik-fil-A dust up may not be the stupidest one I’ve seen, but it has to be close.
different-church-lady
More like choking the Lord’s chicken.
Dorothy A. Winsor
Also, aren’t we the ones who are supposed to be boycotting Chik-fil-A because they were anti-gay or something? Didn’t that happen?
Dorothy A. Winsor
Also, aren’t we the ones who are supposed to be boycotting Chik-fil-A because they were anti-gay or something? Didn’t that happen?
ETA: Yes, here’s a 2012 article about how they promise to stop donating to anti-gay organizations. Our boycott must have been before that. I wonder if this is when they hired the DEI officer.
Dorothy A. Winsor
Huh. That was supposed to be an edit to comment #12
Ken
@Dorothy A. Winsor: I’ve been boycotting Chik-Fil-A but only by default — the one time I tried them, the food was so-so, and I didn’t see any reason to go back.
EDIT: Looks like the boycott-on-principles is lifted? Maybe I’ll try them again.
lowtechcyclist
@different-church-lady:
Good thing I wasn’t sipping my coffee just now!
The Thin Black Duke
Back in the day, Republicans spoke in code to camouflage their bigotry. The GOP’s problem nowadays is that the junkyard rats in the party don’t want to go back to using euphemisms anymore. They’ve been emboldened to proudly wear their swastikas and white hoods in public and they love it. They’re thisclose to being able to fill in the blanks in the N-word at yell it in the faces of POC whenever they feel like it and get away with it. The tails of the junkyard rats waving the carcass of the Republican party can’t dial it back because they got a taste of the good shit. They want their bigotry pure and uncut.
They’re hooked and they ain’t going cold turkey.
p.a.
With some luck they’ll boycott themselves to death on a diet of Miracle Whip & saltines.
kalakal
@Dorothy A. Winsor:
That’s what I thought, must be a bit weird to work there, what with having to be woke homophobes and all.
The ‘Lord’s Chicken’ bit is a hoot. The grift goes ever on
lowtechcyclist
@Ken:
My go-to is the spicy chicken deluxe.
And I’d rather eat their waffle fries than any fries from McD’s or BK, but take that with a grain of salt if you like MickeyD’s fries – I’ve always been mystified about why people think they’re great.
Hilbertsubspace
It is difficult to find word to describe the reactionaries, but I studied Vogon poetry in college. Ahem….
The pustulent effluvium of America’s scabrous backside.
Festering gobs sloughing and burning on asphalt.
And they also smelled a great deal.
rikyrah
Good Morning, Everyone😊😊😊
Barbara
The thing is, the Republicans or at least the current crop are so bad at this because they mostly despise the kind of people who live and breathe policy and fiscal debates and they don’t hire them. I am sure there are still bona fide conservative policy wonks out there somewhere, but they seem to be fewer and fewer and working mostly in think tanks that seem further and further removed from Republican political machinery.
Anytime someone complains to me about DEI, my standard answer is, they do it because they would like to have customers and competent employees not just today but 10 years from now. I guess that’s why Tucker Carlson moved on to the Great Replacement Theory as a response to what seems like pretty obviously rational business behavior. The only question is at what point does he start espousing genocidal rage as a solution. It’s scary out there.
rikyrah
@The Thin Black Duke:
The elites of the GOP and their enablers in the MSM miss the Frank Luntz approved dogwhistle language that gave them plausible deniability😠
lowtechcyclist
@The Thin Black Duke:
100%. The notion that some remnant of ‘sane Republicans’ will somehow save the party from itself is entirely absurd. They’ll be the way they are – or worse, if they can find a way, and I expect they can – until their party is too small to matter. (I can’t say I expect to live to see that, but one can always hope.)
The Thin Black Duke
@rikyrah: On point.
rikyrah
@lowtechcyclist:
McDonald “s fries used to be fabulous. Now it depends on the right McDonald” s and getting them straight out the fryer.
Love the waffle fries. They are consistently good
satby
@Dorothy A. Winsor: @Ken: They were contributing to anti-gay causes back in the day, but one of their core principles was to hire the formerly incarcerated, who often have trouble getting jobs. Seems like the CEO has been evolving.
Baud
Democrats are the real
racistshomophobes!different-church-lady
MUST HAZ ROTATING TAG LINE!!!
Barbara
@The Thin Black Duke: You cross a line when your political message is making people believe that they no longer need to worry about even aspiring to be something better.
AWOL
@Almost Retired: What gives a non-Christian the right to police Christianity?
Baud
@satby:
I don’t know they guy, but I suppose there are some Christians who sincerely want to do good the way Jesus said but have internalized the historical (bigoted) standard for what is good and what is evil, which is something that can be unlearned, unlike hatred and fear, which requires a more fundamental transformation of the soul.
Baud
Via Reddit
https://i.imgur.com/JuBnSNI.jpg
Dorothy A. Winsor
@Baud: John Fetterman totally rocks! Love the rainbow look on him.
Another Scott
Those video-in-the-car things always strike me as being little more than, and just as fake as, “reality TV”. They’re not real (her makeup is perfect, her clothes are perfect, the framing is perfect, the cutting is perfect).
Neither is their fake outrage.
Here’s a better, real, video from 2022 – Reddit – Wisconsin Gov. Tony Evers calls Dobbs ruling “bullshit”.
Eyes on the prizes.
Cheers,
Scott.
Layer8Problem
@Baud: I’ll say it: that man is statuesque.
Ben Cisco 🇺🇸🎖️🖥️♦️
@Barbara: Co-worker brought this up to me a while back. He couldn’t define it either. I helped him out (my cousin is a Director of DEI at a decidedly non-liberal university in this state).
Also told him that the overfed frozen food heir that did all the yelling about “woke” that got him wound up only used that word because he couldn’t use the one he WANTED to use. Teachable moment!!
narya
I normally wear my beer-themed running shoes to the beer runs (duh . . .), but I think I’m gonna do a few with the new pride-themed running shoes. Three runs coming up–today, Wednesday, and next Sunday–so plenty of opportunities. No, I am NOT going to wear one of each. Probably not, anyway.
Dorothy A. Winsor
@narya: I hope it’s cooler today for the run than it has been.
The Thin Black Duke
@Barbara: Know Your Place. Oh, we’ll tell you where, don’t worry. Actually, we don’t give a fuck how you feel.
CliosFanBoy
@different-church-lady: Seconded!!!!!
narya
@Dorothy A. Winsor: It’s been pretty cool around here–by the lake–so I’m not worried about that. And today’s brewery is Ravinia–the one that has a lovely beer garden out back. The run is at 10:30, so it looks like there will be Beer Before Noon . . .
Scout211
Governor Newsom has put Temecula School district on notice.
Omnes Omnibus
@narya: It’s always “cooler by the lake.”
Layer8Problem
Oh, and in this nation’s capital the humidity remains entirely too high. Steeplejack, is there a manager I could be speaking to about this?
narya
@Omnes Omnibus: It still (after all these years) amazes me a little. I’m a half a block from the lake, and my run/walk route is along the lake, and the breeze can be quite cool. Less than a half mile inland from the lake, and the temps can shoot up significantly.
WaterGirl
@Baud: Classic abuser. Look what you made me do.
The Thin Black Duke
He’s pouring the concrete for the Narrative.
WaterGirl
@different-church-lady: Choking their own chicken, in the name of the lord.
sdhays
@Anne Laurie: Hell, “Not intended to be a factual statement” happened within hours.
WaterGirl
@Dorothy A. Winsor: I have long wondered if that’s how duplicate comments happen.
I wonder if you clicked edit, made your additions, and then instead of hitting Update comment, you actually pressed Post Comment instead?
Dorothy A. Winsor
@WaterGirl: That’s certainly possible.
WaterGirl
@Baud: Thanks for that. I have come to love John Fetterman.
Kay
@Another Scott:
I’m so, so sick of it. The eyes wide with phony outrage, the same hand gestures replicated over and over in thousands of these videos, the whole “look at ME!, listen to ME!” niche celebrity aspect- I don’t even respect their grifters. None of it is original or interesting.
sdhays
@Almost Retired: For people like Ben Shapiro, the salient parts of the Bible are the same parts that made the Utah school district remove it from elementary and junior high school libraries.
Kay
@satby:
If it was a core principle maybe they were early to it but all low wage employers now hire the formerly incarcerated. The tight labor market took care of that for them. It was a business decision – they wanted the stores open. They don’t drug test anymore either unless it’s required for insurance.
JPL
@Baud: The NYTimes will be next to face the threat of boycott. They might not read it or do the puzzle, but that won’t matter. Spoiler Alert The crossword puzzle is about the pride flag.
OverTwistWillie
@Baud:
More of a Succession thang. The ancient founder croaked and the kids took over.
Spanky
@Layer8Problem: Sorry, but the manager who was in charge of this died of malaria about two hundred years ago. The place is built on a swamp. The British foreign service classified the place as tropical back before air conditioning.
In other words, tough luck, Charlie.
Maxim
@rikyrah: Good morning. ☀️
Delk
Morgonn needs pronouns.
Omnes Omnibus
Shouldn’t Church’s Chicken be the Lord’s chicken?
Layer8Problem
@Spanky: Phooey. Well, I shall try to jog all the same, thank you very much!
oldgold
Chuck Todd retiring from MTP.
Soprano2
@The Thin Black Duke: For some of them this is definitely true. I’ve heard people say, after saying something racist and untrue about black people (like the lower IQ claim) “It’s not racist if it’s true.” Not all conservatives are openly racist like that, though.
Kay
Before this his claim to fame was being a rock-ribbed conservative who did an in-school suspension of a 12 year old boy for weeks because the boy had long hair.
Conservative authoritarians have a pedophile problem. They should address it. The vast, vast majority of child abusers seem to come from the Right, ESPECIALLY the religious Right. That they have THE NERVE to accuse anyone else is laughable. There is not a fundamentalist religious org in this country that has NOT had a child abuse scandal. It’s 100% of them on a system, if not individual, basis. Each and every org.
oldgold
Kristen Welker will begin hosting Meet the Press this Fall.
Shalimar
@Ken: I have tried CFA’s chicken sandwich before and it is above average. I don’t boycott them. I just never go there because Popeyes’ chicken sandwiches are better.
Baud
@Kay: Correct.
Baud
@oldgold:
@oldgold:
Hmm.
NotMax
Didn’t want to skew the spirit of the garden thread, so placing it here.
Did someone say Iris? Helluva 20 episode ride, available once again on Netflix.
What Have The Romans Ever Done for Us?
@Layer8Problem: If you’re referring to Washington DC, this has been the dryest spring in years, maybe decades. By our standards the humidity is pretty damn low this year. So if you can’t hack this I suggest you get out before normal, much less damper than normal, returns.
Cameron
Keep it up, TPUSA. Fuk Mor Chikens.
trnc
Cameron
@Delk: I’ve been doing it wrong. Changing my name to Cameronn.
Juju
@oldgold: I’m sure the power’s that be are hastily looking for their replacement mediocre white male already.
Layer8Problem
@What Have The Romans Ever Done for Us?: I saw 68% on the phone weather and decided it was an ill portent. And I’m sensitive, delicate, and brittle.
Frankensteinbeck
@The Thin Black Duke:
Polite racism led to a black man becoming president. No, they won’t go back to euphemisms after learning that lesson.
OverTwistWillie
@Juju:
Now they can blame the woman when they cancel it.
Soprano2
@Kay: That’s good, I always thought it was a waste of money. Whole businesses sprang up to profit off the false idea that drug testing could weed out the “bad” hires. I knew of at least one time early on in that practice where a needed employee was hired in spite of failing the test. I think it was mostly used to find pot users, and now that it’s legal in so many states it would be impossible to find employees if you screened out everyone who tested positive for THC! I don’t have a problem with drug screening for cause, but otherwise it’s a stupid waste of money. It doesn’t find alcohol abuse, either.
Juju
@oldgold: I’m surprised. And Kristen Welker actually finished college and got her degree, unlike her predecessor.
different-church-lady
@Cameron: OMG, “Fucking the Lord’s Chicken” was right there and I never saw it!
JPL
@oldgold: She is talented and I hope when she’s on vacation they’ll consider Jen Psaki as a fill in.
Kay
@Soprano2:
They still do it for dangerous jobs – higher wage jobs, really, and in my experience it doesn’t matter if pot is legal- a positive still means they go home- either for a period or permanently. It would be the equivalent of showing up drunk. My son is currently working on the Factory Zero EV plant in Detroit and when he arrived on site he was immediately drug tested – they send them for testing on arrival and if they fail they go home. I don’t think they can get insurance unless they test and enforce.
But I think it’s gone for low wage, high turnover work, like fast food. I had a (funny) juvenile the other day tell me he cannot get fired from Wendys- he disappears for like a week and they just put him back on the schedule when he turns back up. It’s make your own schedule over there.
Jeffro
YEOWCH!!! also LOL
mali muso
Taking my six year old daughter to see the new Little Mermaid movie. On our way, she confirmed that “this is the mermaid with the brown skin like me.” Representation matters! ❤️
oldgold
@Juju:
My first impression is that Kristen Welker is an improvement over the Toddler.
Of course, as to what is really going on here, who knows? My bologna meter began to quiver and shake when Todd claimed he was doing this to spend more time with the family.
Juju
@OverTwistWillie: I think it would more likely to be we have to fire this woman because she she’s to blame for whatever and we have to find our mediocre white man. I don’t think NBC is going to cancel a flagship program.
Jeffro
Side note: wouldn’t CFA’s DEI officer be kind of like the Maytag repairman? That’s how I picture the poor guy/gal.
On a positive note, though, the same person could easily be the DEI officer for Hobby Lobby and Cracker Barrel, and cash three paychecks each month. =)
taumaturgo
Chickens are elated at the currents of a boycott.
Kay
@mali muso:
Oh, that’s nice. Have fun.
Mark
That Christian woman sure is filled with a lot of hate.
Praise the Lord & pass the ammo.
OverTwistWillie
@oldgold:
Whatever it was, that show is now a monument to Senate venality. Comcast should be required to book the production costs as lobbying.
Juju
@oldgold: One of my dogs would be an improvement over Chuck Toddler.
JPL
Apt description of Ron and Don fascism
Like spoiled toddlers, they cannot mentally model the possibility of experiencing any consequences, no matter how small, so they blow through all those rules and conventions and traditions like a maniacal Stay-Puft Kool Aid Man and stomp in the faces of anyone or any law standing in th ofeir way.
oatler
CHUCK TODD IS GONE! GO NATS
happiness from both sides of the aisle
Matt McIrvin
@Soprano2: I always wonder if they think there are some other racists who don’t believe any of their racism is true.
Citizen Alan
@oldgold: Really? Perhaps we should start a betting pool to see who the network could find that will be even worse than the Toddler, seeing as how MTP has gotten worse with every new host for as long as i’ve been aware of its existence. I hear Tuckums is still looking for work.
Ksmiami
@oldgold: and nothing of value was lost…
Mike in NC
Ate once at a Chick-Fil-A in Virginia Beach about 15-20 years ago and thought it was awful. On the other hand, they’re opening new Five Guys locations all around here.
Wyatt Salamanca
Kudos to Kristen Welker who did a great job moderating the final presidential debate between Biden and Trump.
Soprano2
@Kay: Everyone I work with who has a CDL, which is most of them, is subject to random drug tests because their job is to operate big machinery, like backhoes and front loaders. So yeah, that’s right. I think you’re right that it’s going away for low wage jobs and also for office jobs. I guess that Wendy’s has enough employees to tolerate that; we couldn’t, we don’t have enough people to keep someone who just didn’t show up for a week. What does that kid do for money?
Spanky
@Jeffro:
My mind immediately put that on the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
I have no real recollections of MTP pre-Tim Russert, I know during the Great Clenis Hunt he was one of the moral scolds, IIRC it was Atrios who named him Monsignor Punkinhead, and the show was in the tank for John McCain in 2000 and then Bush. David Gregory had the gravitas of a sack of dryer lint, and Chuck Todd wasn’t much better
Spanky
@oldgold:
That means there’s video.
M31
ONLY THE TRUE MESSIAH DENIES THE LORD’S CHICKEN
Brachiator
@oldgold:
It’s still an idiot pundit show. There are norms to be followed. If the format becomes less stupid, I might take a peek.
moonbat
@rikyrah: This.
RaflW
@Almost Retired: Republican Jesus would be charging a 10% skim on the temple money changers, not throwing them out. Which begs the question, what about Republican Jesus is even remotely aligned with the Bible or his own teachings?
Not that Republicans ever need to answer that question. They just smugly ‘believe’.
M31
wait till the woke warriors find out that two of the 5 guys are gay
oatler
David Gregory might return with his all-new Judeo-Christian impartiality..
Enhanced Voting Techniques
What a pathetic lie. It was obvious to me the whole point of Pride was to get in the face of the haters so everyone could see how screwed up the haters are.
satby
@Kay: Yes, they were early to it. They’ve been actively hiring formerly incarcerated people since at least 2008, when I became aware of it; roughly the same time as their anti-homosexuality became public. It was an odd mix of the owners “Christian” beliefs, but it wasn’t because the unemployment rate was low.
Kay
@Soprano2:
I think he makes “enough” in a couple of weeks at Wendys and then coasts for a while. I worry about them a little because when the economy slows they will have to adjust expectations. Wal Mart went from a suspension for one no-show/no call to a suspension for THREE no show/no calls. They were complaining about three so I asked them- how many no show/no calls should you get? Thirty seven? You have to show up for work.
I once got suspended from working at the Dairy Queen in high school for sassing the assistant manager, who was like 6 months older than I was. Back in MY DAY :)
Mike in NC
@oldgold: New spokesperson for DeSantis?
UncleEbeneezer
@The Thin Black Duke: Wonder if he’ll have the same energy for noted pedophile Thomas Jefferson…
NotMax
@Mike in NC
Tried a Five Guys location several years back while on a NY visit. Two nibbles enough to prompt throwing the rest into the nearest trash barrel. Absolute swill.
In sore need of bringing in a sixth guy, one who knows the rudiments of cookery.
RaflW
@Ken: The only time in recent memory I even considered a Fil-A sandwich was at the Minneapolis airport. Terminal food choices often kinda suck, and the back end is all run by one octopus contractor (though of course Fil-A corp gets some percentage cut).
I ended up having mediocre Asian from one of the last standing outlets of a local chain that was the hot thing 25 years ago. But maybe I’ll relax about the Fil-A anti-gay boycott if need be.
My last chicken sandwich from them was, IIRC, in the 1980s. It was in fact a chicken sandwich. Crispy, I’m sure. Mayonnaisey, if memory serves. Entirely average, so of course popular in America!
Jim, Foolish Literalist
I wonder how many of those comedians who spoof right wingers on social media had to throw out their script when this woman said, apparently in utter sincerity, that Chick-Fil-A was no long the Lord’s chicken
I’ve never had it, in part because I consider waffle fries to be an unholy abomination
OverTwistWillie
According to wiki, CFA pulled their money from Salvation Army and FCA. Maybe someone had a road to Damascus moment, maybe they just needed some cash for a place on St. John.
Let she/he without sin, or with a declining donor base, cast the first stone.
Urza
For those talking about going back to Chik-Fil-A cause they stopped donating to anti-gay causes, the CEO still donates a significant amount. And its a private company so you don’t know how much he’s being paid. Just because they got a DEI exec doesn’t mean he ever stopped his bigotry.
Another Scott
@NotMax: Years and years and years ago, we heard about this place called 5 Guys and decided to stop there after seeing a movie.
There were about 5 couples in front of us, so we figured there would be a bit of a wait, but it would be Ok.
It took something like 35 minutes to order and get our food.
:-/
It was very good, but 35 minutes for a burger and fries??!
We didn’t go back. But we’ve been to a couple of stores after they went franchise and got big. Much faster service and still very good.
Dunno why you had a bad experience with them (BIL in Austin loves them), but people are different.
Cheers,
Scott.
Miss Bianca
I’m still trying to wrap my head around the whole “Woke Chicken” thing. I mean…”Woke Chicken”? WTF? Do these people ever actually listen to the shit that dribbles out of their pie-holes?
smith
@Miss Bianca: Not a whole lot different from woke M&Ms or woke Mr/Ms Potato Head
ETA: It may be that the willingness to swallow absurdities is the test of a true believer.
Miss Bianca
@lowtechcyclist: My understanding is that Mickey D’s fries *were* considered great back in the day when they were still using animal fats to fry them. When they switched to vegetable oils, not so much.
satby
@Miss Bianca: I always assumed it was because of all the salt. But my mom would get them and add more salt, so I thought they were revolting.
Kay
They’re ninnies. Shrieking about woke monsters under their beds. And that includes all the “respected” anti woke ninnies, like Andrew Sullivan and the NYTimes editorial board and Bill Mahr.
Ninnies. No capacity to address real problems so they create panics about stupid shit and then “address” that. They’re low quality thinkers. They should all do car videos. That’s the level of thought involved.
sdhays
@NotMax: Agreed. I tried Five Guys years ago when I moved back to the US, and was seriously unimpressed. I tried it again a few years later just to see if my previous impression remained. It did.
I really don’t understand why they’re successful. Even their fries are terrible.
Another Scott
@Miss Bianca:
“Power is in tearing human minds to pieces and putting them together again in new shapes of your own choosing.”
― George Orwell, 1984
It’s intentionally nonsensical. It’s all about bending people in their cult to their will for power.
Cheers,
Scott.
Miss Bianca
@Soprano2: I’ve stopped having disturbing flashbacks to mandatory “peeing in the cup” every time I go to the bathroom even at home, but it took a while. I was mostly incensed over being forced to do it as an e-commerce office drudge in my local Big Hardware franchise – even if it was for “insurance purposes”, I wasn’t operating any machinery bigger, heavier, or more dangerous than my fucking computer.
Even baked out of my gourd I could have managed to fill Amazon orders, ffs.
sdhays
@smith: I still can’t quite believe that they were freaking out on how one of the M&M’s was less fuckable. I mean…not to kink-shame, but if you’re thinking of fucking an M&M to the point of getting upset about a change in Mars’ advertising strategy, you probably should bring that up with your therapist rather than social media/shitty Fox show.
geg6
@oldgold:
Oh lord. Of course they’d pick Chuck Todd in a dress. I despise Welker. She’s awful.
Anoniminous
@UncleEbeneezer:
Since it is highly likely-to-a-certainty Sally Hemings was his half-sister you can add incest along with the pedophile and rape charges.
NotMax
@Jim, Foolish Literalist
Ah, you’re a pancake fries man. :)
Have never set foot in a C-F-A. Fast food joints never held much appeal for me regardless of the sign above the door. All sorts of chain joints have recently discovered Maui. In addition to Chik, Raising Cane’s and Sonic opened or about to. Fatburger came and subsequently shuttered in practically the blink of an eye. Quizno’s went bye-bye years ago, ditto for DQ. Only a single KFC outlet left, that one serving what could best be described as Kentucky Fried Chickadee; teeny-tiniest pieces of bird ever.
For the record, personal boycott of McD’s (since early in the 1970s) still active after one in then suburban Virginia served me a sewage patty (meat was far beyond spoiled) and refused to either replace it or provide a refund.
Remain mildly curious about a new place coming soon, though, solely because of the name: Ramen Bones.
sdhays
@Miss Bianca: Employer mandated drug testing is banned in Europe and somehow they manage, so it’s clearly all bullshit. I’m not sure if they have exceptions for jobs operating heavy machinery, but definitely not for office work.
smith
@Anoniminous: Pretty sure Sally Hemings was his wife’s half-sister.
Baud
@Another Scott:
Agreed.
Nukular Biskits
Late to the game again …
Mornin’, ya’ll!
geg6
@Another Scott:
Agreed. Never had a bad meal at a Five Guys. Same with Jersey Mike’s. Two of my favorite chains ever.
Bill Arnold
@Baud:
There’s a related line in Sophocles/Antigone, that has been translated as “evil at one time or another seems good, to him whose mind a god leads to ruin.”
The theologies motivating Christian Supremacists are riddled with this sort of confusion. (‘s/a god/the adversary/’ (or Satan)).
Another Scott
Meanwhile, …
Impressive! And a good message!!
I wonder how he slows down and stops… :-/
(via Oryx)
Cheers,
Scott.
Juju
@Anoniminous: Sally Hemings was not Jefferson’s half sister. She was very likely the half sister of Jefferson’s wife. Jefferson’s wife was the daughter of a slave owning planter.
laura
@Soprano2: Just a few years ago, the feds implemented a national database for CDL holders that tracks any violations of the stringent drug and alcohol prohibitions and limitations. It prevents a driver who pops positive from leaving a job and getting hired anywhere else in the US. Employers are also held to enforce the regs by stringent hiring procedures. It takes about 45 minutes and 2 separate electronic devices- computer and smartphone to register with the database. This should really increase road safety overall, but it does nothing to address the use of legit pain-related opioid usage by injured drivers- and work-related injuries and chronic pain are surprisingly common in the trucking industry be it long haul or municipal/state refuse and road maintenance jobs. Lowering the retirement age and ensuring affordable retiree healthcare would actually address this aspect.
Miss Bianca
@Kay: God, Kay. Are you living in my head? Or have I just absorbed the way you look at things from seeing you lay them out like this? I’ve been formulating a letter to my local Board of Education in the wake of their decision to shit-can the social-emotional learning curriculum at the school on the grounds that it “teaches Critical Race Theory.” This in a school where 20-25 percent of the kids are on IEPs, mostly for social-emotional issues!
And what I’ve been saying to myself as I write it is, “I understand why the BOE wants to focus on BS problems instead of the actual, real problems this district is facing – BS problems can have BS solutions, unlike real problems that need real solutions. But BS solutions to BS problems can actually create more REAL problems.”
Geminid
@smith: Historian Annette Gordon-Read’s The Hemingses of Monticello (2008) examines these and other questions in detail, 800 pages worth. She won a Pulitzer Prize for her work.
NotMax
@Miss Bianca
Yup. fried in beef tallow.
@Anoniminous
Sally Hemings was the half-sister of Jefferson’s wife (herself his third cousin, she died in 1782), not half-sister to him.
James E Powell
It’s Sunday! So that means Chuck Todd & Andrea Mitchell are both trending on twitter. And everybody hates both of them.
This is what puzzles me about the media. Why are such people treated as major figures who just cannot be replaced? Who would miss them if they disappeared tomorrow? They add nothing of value to the discourse.
rikyrah
@Kay:
Preach it, Kay
Another Scott
@smith: +1
https://www.monticello.org/sallyhemings/
It looks like Jefferson had 6 children with Martha and 7 children with Sally (not all survived).
The women probably would have been members of Planned Parenthood if they had the chance. :-/
Cheers,
Scott.
rikyrah
@mali muso: 🤗🤗🤗😍😍😍
RaflW
@Enhanced Voting Techniques: As I said on that other site, I hope the ghost of Harvey Milk is haunting EWE this weekend.
Kay
@Miss Bianca:
It’s all so dumb. Social emotional learning is teaching kids how to function in groups, a “group” like a… society. It’s impulse control and treating other people decently. When I was on a school council and we did anti bullying the ony way we could explain it to Right wing parents was to portray is as behavorial controls- “behaving yourself” means not attacking the kid who is different, etc. We had to portray it as “maintaining order” – otherwise they would be pro-bullying.
Tell them “social emotional learning” will make productive employees because they’ll be able to work with others. Maybe they’ll value that.
Baud
@James E Powell:
There are many people not on the right who live to hate people. So a good thing –Chuck Todd gone — becomea a bad thing.
Baud
@Kay:
You gotta play to your audience.
smith
@Kay: At a deep level, getting along with people who are not powerful conflicts with their core value of “cruelty is the point,” and will have to be dressed up in a huge amount of camouflage before they can accept it.
RaflW
@Miss Bianca: “‘Woke Chicken’? WTF?”
My hope with all the DeSantis gibberish about woke mind virus and how it’s cultural marxism is the turnoff to median voters that it should be.
It’s completely unrelated to anything actually happening in the lives of anyone not extremely online in right win spaces +/or consuming endless Newsmax/OAN. IT certainly doesn’t speak to solving problems for people with unaffordable home insurance or unmanageable hospital bills.
DeSepsis’ spokesmodel said some nonsense about “as bizarre as [Nikki Haley] aligning with woke Disney.” Disney drew 58,000,000 visits in FL last year. That’s 12.6X the number of votes Rhonda gleaned in FL in ’22.
Brachiator
@lowtechcyclist:
They used to be very good. I remember Julia Child once raving about them.
ETA. I also remember listening to a public radio piece about a secret fast food laboratory that came up with organic additives that helps takeout french fries stay warm for the extra minutes it takes people to drive home. I wonder if this affects the flavor a bit.
dnfree
@rikyrah: Depending on how far back you’re remembering McDonald’s fries, they used to fry them in beef tallow without telling anyone. There was a big lawsuit when vegetarians and Hindus found out.
https://www.emmymade.com/mcdonalds-original-french-fry-recipe/
There go two miscreants
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Credo_quia_absurdum
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@RaflW: somebody on twitter said that things got very tense with Ron and Casey at an event when she told somebody their daughter watches Frozen, which I gather is a Disney picture, several times a day, as little kids will.
And of course, they got married at Disney World
she was a local news anchor at the time
Jackie
@kalakal: We don’t have them in our neck of the woods, so I boycott them in principle LOL
dnfree
@Omnes Omnibus: in winter it’s warmer by the lake, and also sometimes snowier.
Delk
Meanwhile in Iowa : Casey DeSantis wore a black leather jacket in 86-degree weather with the words “Where Woke Goes to Die” and an outline of Florida on the back.
That’s cape weather, not black leather weather.
Baud
@RaflW:
They’re trying to recreate the mindless frenzied passion they created in 2016. It’s not supposed to make sense.
Kelly
Just drive the CAR dammit. Eyes on the ROAD dammit.
Nukular Biskits
@Shalimar:
I have to agree: Popeye’s chicken sammich is definitely better. I just wish they wouldn’t slather so much mayo on it.
satby
In the spirit of Pride month, here’s an interview Chasten Buttigeig did with one of the Bulwark writers on his YA version of his best selling book, and why he wrote it.
mrmoshpotato
Now there’s a phrase for ya!
different-church-lady
@Kay:
That’s how bullies think: “You’re telling me if I do X I’m hurting someone?” “Yes.” “Then I am absolutely gonna do X!”
Alison Rose
Hey y’all – Little Hill Sanctuary in Watsonville CA is having an online auction to raise money to either make repairs and improvements to their current property (they were hit hard by the rains and flooding earlier this year) or to hopefully move to another property that would be less susceptible to floods and such. There are a lot of great items here! This farm is owned by the friend of one of my dearest friends, so if anyone is inclined to place some bids, that would be wonderful :)
different-church-lady
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Ferdinand and Imelda of Tallahassee.
Chief Oshkosh
@Baud: I don’t know the guy, either, but the one person I know who works for CfA corporate is one of those rare evangelicals who really tries to follow all of the teachings of Jesus — donates a lot of his time and money to church and to nondenominational charities and causes. His big thing is alleviating food and water insecurity in underserved communities. I have no idea of his views on the current rightwing attacks on the LGBTQIA+ communities.
oatler
@Brachiator:
“Secret fast food laboratory” should be the tell.
Kay
@Delk:
lol
CaseyL
@oatler: I think all the fast food outlets and junk food companies have “secret” labs.
There was a big story a year or so ago (?) about how the corn snack companies do a LOT of research on flavor and texture, how to make their food-like products really “pop” your tastebuds so you can’t resist eating them. IIRC, they actually talked about triggering dopamine reactions.
Another good reason to avoid junk food: it’s trying to get you hooked. Literally addicted.
Miss Bianca
@Kay:
Ha! You mean, tell that to the very same set of folks who complain that “no one wants to work these days”? LOL – they’d probably tie *that* to SEL as well!
Omnes Omnibus
@NotMax: Is it possible you just don’t like burger chains? FWIW I think Five Guys is fine. It’s no Culver’s though.
Cameron
@sdhays: Y’all think yer all that with that hard sugar coat, but this dude can’t wait to get at that sweet stuff inside…..wait! Wait! Where are you folks taking me?
Steeplejack
@Layer8Problem:
Are you perhaps having a medical crisis?! In D.C. the temp now is 68°, the humidity is only 54%, and the all-important dew point is a low 50°. It’s a beautiful day!
Soprano2
@dnfree: How good French fries are is all about the oil. McDonald’s fries were the best when they were fried in beef tallow.
Baud
Via Reddit, the drag queens just won’t stop not doing it.
Sister Golden Bear
Live mad (and hungry), bigots.
Baud
@oatler:
I would totally eat Frankenfries.
Soprano2
@CaseyL: There’s a book called “Salt, Fat, Sugar” or something similar that talks about this. It’s also addressed in “Fast Food Nation”. It’s not really a secret.
Steeplejack
@oldgold:
Won’t be an upgrade, IMO.
Omnes Omnibus
@Baud: Consider Arby’s curly fries. As Franken as fries can get.
mrmoshpotato
@different-church-lady:
@WaterGirl:
You two are terrible! Keep up the good work!
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Baud: I made my first confession to a priest who at the age of eight gave me some creepy vibes, the new thing then was face-to-face confession. Years later it came out that he was one of those priests. He ran the youth programs in our church.
My mom shocked me decades later when she said she never trusted him because he was a convert who became a priest. She was born in 1935, attended only parochial schools, attended Mass most of her life, but that was a red flag to her
Steeplejack
@NotMax:
Looks good.
Steeplejack
@What Have The Romans Ever Done for Us?:
What you said.
Brachiator
@oatler:
It’s not a big deal, and not that nefarious. During the pandemic, takeout became more popular and some people were driving further on average. People didn’t want to get home only to find that their fries were cold and limp.
japa21
@Omnes Omnibus:
Nothing compares to Culvers, although a few franchise locations could stand some improvement.
Baud
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
Yikes!
smith
@japa21: Culver’s is the only fast food franchise I frequent, and not that frequently. A few weeks back I stopped there for the first time in 3 years, and was disappointed to find their chicken sandwich to be less than expected. Not at all what I remembered — I may just give up fast food altogether.
Another Scott
NPR.org (from 2016):
I’m pretty sure that 5 Guys doesn’t do that double-frying thing (it would probably take an hour to get an order if they did ;-), and their fries are very greasy if they get cold (they’re much better if they’re microwaved if they get cold)…
(I’ve read elsewhere that one should not refrigerate or freeze potatoes because the starches change to sugars or something, but of course Ore-Ida is very happy to sell frozen potatoes of various forms, so there’s probably lots of other things going on. Dunno. Cooking is organic chemistry and can get very complicated.)
Cheers,
Scott.
JWR
I caught some of the CBS and NBC Sunday shows, (shitty lineup all), and one of McCarthy’s lead negotiators was on, practically bouncing in his chair, gloating about how this brilliant guy, McCarthy, rolled Biden like an old newspaper, and the GOP got way more than they asked for and on and on. It was weird. But I had to laugh like Hell, considering the opposite was what had occurred.
Then both those programs had crafty old Joe Manchin on for the Dem response, though it seemed that maybe Biden’s team was happy to put Manchin out there because he would say stuff that would make Biden look weak and McCarthy strong. It was political Ju-Jitsu in action!
Jay
Alton Brown covered fries.
The secrets are:
#1 the potato
#2 prefry
#3 freeze
#4 refry
the oil doesn’t really matter as long as it can hit the heat point with out smoking.
When we lived in the hills, there was a 5 Guys on the route home. For fast fud, it was better than the rest, the fries were good, but the burger was too big. They closed after less than a year, probably location, location, location. They were off the traffic route. Ate at a Fatburger recently. Staff was great, (local franchise, family run), food was okay.
RaflW
@James E Powell:
Old people not on Twitter are the major Sunday show demographic. That and other media people, who look to the shows for their instructions on how to both sides & Dem bash for the week ahead.
Jay
@Another Scott:
Alton Brown holds that the freezing adds to removing extra surface moisture, and that it doesn’t turn starches into sugars.
He made ribs glorious for me, so,………..
Baud
@JWR:
That’s hilarious.
mrmoshpotato
@Another Scott:
We don’t like being cold.
mrmoshpotato
This post makes me hungry.
raven
@Another Scott: I just vacuum froze my fish and I dry them, put them on a rack in the freezer until they glaze and then vacuum pack them.
lowtechcyclist
@Mike in NC:
Five Guys makes a good burger, and their fries are fucking awesome.
raven
@JWR: That guy was a stone dork.
Deputinize Eurasia from the Kuriles to St Petersburg
@Shalimar:
I dislike fried chicken sandwiches because they dilute the pure joy that IS fried chicken. If I could have nothing but the crust, I would be super happy….
mrmoshpotato
@lowtechcyclist: Bummer that the one around me closed.
Brachiator
@Jay:
In the hierarchy of Los Angeles area fast food, Fatburger was a big deal through the early 80s and along with Tommy’s was a step up from McDonald’s, Burger King and Jack in the Box. Taco Bell and Del Taco was in there somewhere for some people.
I suppose that In and Out and King Taco now rule for flavor and consistency.
There is also the wild food truck scene.
And street food. There is nothing quite like a bacon wrapped hot dog with onions or jalapenos sold by a vendor in the garment district on a Saturday afternoon.
And then, of course Ramen and a whole world of Asian fast food.
And tamales. Beef, pork, chicken, and pineapple. Sweet Jesus.
lowtechcyclist
@Layer8Problem:
Out here in beautiful Calvert County, I had a very pleasant bike ride this morning, and there was not much humidity at all that I could tell.
Ruckus
Just sitting down to the computer and saw the thing about ChickFilA. I’ve eaten at CFA 2 or 3 times but stopped a number of years ago because it seemed they were owned/run by a complete right wing nut job.
And now I see this from the CEO. I may have to start eating chicken again.
The Pale Scot
I think that is done, or maybe started initially to prevent geo-locators from finding them.
lowtechcyclist
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
Whaddaya mean, they’ve got plenty of holes!
And you consider yourself a literalist! ;-)
NotMax
@Omnes Omnibus
To answer your question, no.
Not places I frequent, though (maybe once or twice a year). Find over the decades the burgers have grown noticeably saltier and the buns more the consistency of a damp sponge.
Going way back, when on the road used to seek out Roy Rogers joints, whose burgers were a cut above, IMHO.
lowtechcyclist
@Miss Bianca:
I’ve heard that line, but AFAIAC their fries have been boring since the 1970s at least.
Hildebrand
@Ken: There is no reason to go anywhere else other than Popeyes if you want a good fast food chicken sandwich.
NotMax
@NotMax
Oh, and although haven’t been there in 20 years or so (too far out of the way of my usual routes), remember the burgers from Carls Jr’s being tasty.
Ksmiami
@lowtechcyclist: ironically beef tallow is healthier than veggie oils at this point.
WereBear
It’s the story of everyone on My 600 Pound Life. So many of them had trauma as children which was ignored at the time. Or flat out bad food habits. Then medicate with food…
Timill
@Soprano2:
Salt, Fat, Acid, Heat: Mastering the Elements of Good Cooking by Samin Nosrat
frosty
@lowtechcyclist:
It is also a gorgeous day here on the Mason-Dixon line!
The Pale Scot
I remember that, I was in a Cath school, when they rolled it out. At first it was voluntary, then 2 weeks later, after NOBODY in the school had done, they made it mandatory. I fought back by superglueing every lock in the school.
WereBear
@The Pale Scot: The video is the car thing (park first for heaven’s sake!) is because cars are sound-proofed and you have a quiet background for voices.
Dr. Jakyll and Miss Deride
Spoiler alert: If you type those words and follow immediately with the spoiler, no one will be able to look away fast enough to miss the spoiler. Please consider making it a separate paragraph or a footnote.
Gretchen
@Kay: the new Amazon Prime special on the Duggars make this clear. They drill unquestioning obedience to authority into kids, and give them no sex education. Then when the man whose authority comes straight from God starts doing things to them, they don’t have language to understand it or anyone to complain to. Add in that all males are over all females, sexual abuse is inevitable. Shiny Happy People is the name.
different-church-lady
@The Pale Scot:
I did confession once. I made something up because there was no way I was gonna tell this guy what I had really done wrong. Even at ten years old I felt like my sins were a matter between just me and God. After that I pretty much knew the church wasn’t for me.
Another Scott
@The Pale Scot: Interesting.
I figured it was a cheap way to have control over background noises and camera setup (e.g., cheaper than a dedicated studio at home), and a way to hide from the family/SO while posting stuff on the web, but then it became a trope. (Of course, I can’t find anything on the web about said trope.)
Cheers,
Scott.
different-church-lady
@Gretchen:
We keep taking people who need help, and instead of giving them help we put them on TV.
Another Scott
@Dr. Jakyll and Miss Deride: Secret Message! ==> One can also do the white text thing.
Cheers,
Scott.
Cameron
@Timill: Salt, Acid, Fat, Heat, TV: The Bestest Cooking With The Bigliest Master Chef Donald Trump
Ruckus
@lowtechcyclist:
The world is moving forward and they know it. They keep trying to jam it into reverse and they keep getting shut down hard. Most people want to move forward because that’s what the world and time do – move forward. We have a large country on this planet whose leader is trying to move history backwards – russia or whatever they call themselves now – because it’s really, really dark where he stuffed his head decades ago. How well is that going for him?
Time and history move only one direction – forward, like it or not. I’ve lived on this planet for a few decades and in that time the world has moved forward, yes in fits and starts but forward. We know far, far more than we did. We have gotten a little bit better, have figured out that wars really just murder people for often nothing good whatsoever. We are finally seeing, and even more amazing, accepting, that there has to be a better way for several billion people to live than constant wars for some asshole’s pride and/or greed. vlad will not be the last person to figure this out, for 2 reasons. One, he’ll never accept this. Two, he likely will have one or more of his citizens either teach him this or stop his breathing. (I’m betting on #2) The world is getting smaller because the distance between humans is getting smaller, what with more of us per however you want to measure area.
We have to see change and accept change (and it’s change for the betterment, not one man’s bank account) because that’s the way the world works. Not seeing it or accepting it has never worked in the history of humanity because that causes wars and death.
different-church-lady
@Cameron:
Salt, Hatred, Lard, Heat, Ketchup.
different-church-lady
@Ruckus: Time moves forward. Humanity wobbles back and forth.
Miss Bianca
@Brachiator:
You have wild food trucks out in LA?
lowtechcyclist
@smith:
They opened a Culver’s up in Plant City, FL, where my in-laws are, a year or two ago. Driven by it several times. I had no idea it was fast food, it looks like a generic family restaurant from the outside. If there’s a drive-thru window, I hadn’t noticed it.
eclare
@different-church-lady:
Hamberders!
different-church-lady
@Miss Bianca:
It’s easier to catch the food with a truck than on foot.
Frankensteinbeck
@Brachiator:
LA is such a food city. It’s wonderful.
I am a big Fatburger fan. It’s been a few years because I moved away, but the ingredients were all pretty high quality, and I liked how meaty the patty is.
Fatburger’s biggest sales point is that all burger places show you pictures of these big burgers stacked high with everything, and you know that’s just a publicity picture bearing no resemblance to the product. A Fatburger really does look like that.
different-church-lady
There are too many burger chains. Discuss.
Miss Bianca
@different-church-lady: LOL!
MisterForkbeard
@Scout211: I have a co-worker who JUST moved to Temecula like two months ago. I told him to watch out for:
1. Water issues
2. Redneck idiots, since it’s a lot more “rural” than he’s used to
Brachiator
@Frankensteinbeck:
Very true. The pandemic hurt a lot of eateries, but most bounced back and new places are also coming on strong.
The variety and creativity is fun and can be rewarding, especially with relatively out of the way places.
ETA I recently ran across a YouTube video where a guy traveled from Westwood to Temple City via public transit to visit a great Indonesian restaurant. It was a crazy long trip, but apparently the food was great.
Ruckus
@smith:
It may be that the willingness to swallow absurdities is the test of a true believer.
By George I think you’ve got it!!!!
Ruckus
@Kay:
They’re low quality
thinkersNON thinkers – they are followers. And they aren’t good at that because they pick idiot assholes to follow.evodevo
@Another Scott: Yeah…our son took us to one in CA before they had so many franchises all over…it was all of half an hour, standing around waiting…and my cheeseburger was…average. I’ve had better ones at Wendy’s lol
evodevo
@dnfree: Yep…and back in the Sixties, when they were GOOD, the outlet in Lexington peeled them in front of you – in other words, they were fresh potatoes, not frozen. So between that and the beef tallow, they were the bomb…I still remember the flavor, 60 yrs later lol
brantl
@oldgold: Hala-freaking-luja!
brantl
@Another Scott: Jesus, if that ever goes down, he’s going to roll like a wagon wheel.
brantl
@Deputinize Eurasia from the Kuriles to St Petersburg: I had PopEyes the other day, and there was as much crust as there was chicken, I’m not eating there again, probably ever.
Chris T.
Since we’re apparently doing this: I’m not a big fan of Five Guys myself. It’s OK in a pinch. For these kinds of chains, I’d prefer In-n-Out or—mostly available where In-n-Out is—Habit Burger.
Popeyes chicken seems to be heavily location-dependent. I was first introduced to it on the East Coast in the 1980s, where they had steroidally-large chicken portions but were pretty tasty. Then I moved to the west coast (SFBayArea) and there were none, and then I moved to Utah and there were still none until they opened some in the early 2010s I think, and it was absurdly good there.
I ended up moving back to the Bay Area for a while and the Popeyes-es there were awful. Now I’m retired (at least nominally) in the Pacific NorthWet and the Popeyes chicken is not very close, but pretty good—if they’re not out of chicken, which has happened more than once!
There’s a Chik-Fil-A coming to Bellingham at some point soon. I didn’t like them in the SFBayArea, but I might give them a try up here.
Ruckus
@different-church-lady:
Humanity wobbles on it’s best day.
I’ve seen it a few times having achieved bad, never had to see worst.
RaflW
@Omnes Omnibus: Back when I still ate beef, I’d occasionally get a Butter Burger, and to be frank, i didn’t get what was very special about it. And I don’t care much for crinkle cut fries.
The custard, yes. We sometimes look at their online flavor of the day map and plan our road trip stops for one if they have dark chocolate decadence. If that isn’t on our route, a scoop of vanilla with hot fudge doesn’t disappoint.
I also like Culver’s fried cod (sandwich or dinner) but the BF can’t eat wheat, so… custard it is!
Josie (also)
@Anoniminous: I believe Sally Hemings was the half sister of his wife. Both Sally Hemings and his wife shared the same father.
Paul in KY
Who the fuck would name their kid ‘Morgonn’. I guess they thought it looked ‘fancy’.
Paul in KY
@Michael Bersin: Had me a couple of Bud Lights at Railbird fest in Lexington. Not bad & it sure hit the spot on a brutally hot day.
Paul in KY
@Soprano2: They can ‘dial’ the tests. Set it to only hit on a certain amount of THC in urine/bloodstream. The hair test can tell if you’ve ever smoked/ingested it once.
Paul in KY
@Omnes Omnibus: Culvers is about the best I’ve tried. Their shakes…yum.