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You are here: Home / Past Elections / 2020 Elections / Open Thread: Ruby Freeman & Shaye Moss Are Officially Exonerated

Open Thread: Ruby Freeman & Shaye Moss Are Officially Exonerated

by Anne Laurie|  June 22, 20235:29 pm| 61 Comments

This post is in: 2020 Elections, Republican Venality, Trumpery

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“Years after their lives were turned upside down by conspiracy theorists, Ruby Freeman and her daughter, Wandrea ArShaye ‘Shaye’ Moss, were officially cleared by Georgia authorities on Tuesday.” https://t.co/x2qyuwVFfT

— Ryan J. Reilly (@ryanjreilly) June 21, 2023

Things people who rubbed a couple of brain cells together knew in November 2020: https://t.co/x2qyuwVFfT pic.twitter.com/JK2z6JSqHy

— Ryan J. Reilly (@ryanjreilly) June 21, 2023

Rolling Stone:

… On Tuesday, Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger announced the closure of an investigation into claims of fraud made by former Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani, after the DA’s office found no evidence that would substantiate the claims. “Over the course of the investigation, it was confirmed that numerous allegations made against the Fulton County Department of Registration and Elections, and specifically, two election workers, were false and unsubstantiated,” Raffensberg’s office wrote in a press release.

Giuliani had accused two Georgia election workers, Rudy Freeman and Wandrea “Shaye” Moss of having committed various acts of fraud in the course of counting ballots in Fulton County. Conspiracies leveled against Freeman and Moss included claims they had lied about flooding in election headquarters in order to have poll watchers removed, counted ballots multiple times, and snuck extra ballots into the count to inflate President Joe Biden’s margins. Freeman and Moss have since filed a defamation suit against Giuliani.

The allegations against Freeman and Moss became drivers of larger efforts by Trump and his allies to interfere with Georgia’s election outcomes. The pair were subjected to extreme harassment and threats by the former president’s devotees, and became key witnesses to the manner in which conspiracies about the election were formed and weaponized. During her testimony before the Jan. 6 committee, Moss was asked about the attorney’s claims that she and Freeman had exchanged a “USB drive” full of votes. Moss revealed that the drive was actually a piece of candy.

Over the course of the investigation, which was conducted with assistance from the Georgia Bureau of Investigations and FBI, Raffensperger’s office found that “there was no evidence of any type of fraud as alleged.” Additionally, investigators found that social media posts purporting to show an admission of voter fraud from an election worker were created by an individual who “admitted he created a fake account and confirmed the content that was posted on the account was fake.”

“We remain diligent and dedicated to looking into real claims of voter fraud,” Raffensperger said. “We are glad the state election board finally put this issue to rest. False claims and knowingly false allegations made against these election workers have done tremendous harm. Election workers deserve our praise for being on the front lines.” …

Not to be vindictive (ha!), but I agree with Charlie Pierce, at Esquire — “Give Ruby Freeman and Shaye Moss All the Money”:

Now it’s time for these brave women to get paid.

Take it all. Houses. Cars. Skivvies. Everything. Every stick of gilded furniture. Every stitch of tailored clothes. Every last dime. Leave ’em all wearing a barrel…

These two women represented thousands of other of our fellow citizens who volunteer every election cycle to do the scut work of self-government. They’re the ones who check the registration rolls. They’re the ones who grind away counting votes through the night, a tedious, thankless task on its best days, but one that now has been rendered physically dangerous through the efforts of soulless political vampires, the legions of the political undead…

I’m proud to be Ruby Freeman’s fellow citizen. And I hope, a couple of years down the road, she’s living in a monumentally tacky seaside mansion in Florida and wondering what in hell you do with a gold-plated commode.

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  1. 1.

    Baud

    June 22, 2023 at 5:32 pm

    Tragedy averted.

    Additionally, investigators found that social media posts purporting to show an admission of voter fraud from an election worker were created by an individual who “admitted he created a fake account and confirmed the content that was posted on the account was fake.”

    Burn him.

  2. 2.

    Jay

    June 22, 2023 at 5:33 pm

    And I hope, a couple of years down the road, she’s living in a monumentally tacky seaside mansion in Florida and wondering what in hell you do with a gold-plated commode.

    Seconded,

    and frist

    eta, curse you Baud,……

  3. 3.

    JPL

    June 22, 2023 at 5:34 pm

    It’s possible that Rudy is on the phone with Alex Jones asking how to hide money.    just sayin

  4. 4.

    bbleh

    June 22, 2023 at 5:34 pm

    Good for them!

    So what happens to the people who made the false allegations, who harassed them, who actively interfered with election workers?  Is the GA SoS going to pursue criminal charges?  (I’d bet not.)

    I hope there’s a line of lawyers outside their doors asking to represent them on contingency.

  5. 5.

    Jay

    June 22, 2023 at 5:35 pm

    @JPL:

    Rudy has no money.

  6. 6.

    JPL

    June 22, 2023 at 5:39 pm

    @bbleh: The SOS will do nothing, but the Fulton County DA should announce charges the first week in August.

  7. 7.

    laura

    June 22, 2023 at 5:40 pm

    Ruby Freeman and Shaye Moss are the best of is- the absolute epitome of citizen guardians of the franchise. They deserve all the monies from every shite-bag that destroyed their lives- stares bitchly at so many republicans.

  8. 8.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    June 22, 2023 at 5:41 pm

    @Jay:

    Whenever I see gold, especially gold watches, I usually associate it with tackiness.

  9. 9.

    Cameron

    June 22, 2023 at 5:43 pm

    @Jay: Four Seasons might spot him a loan.

  10. 10.

    JPL

    June 22, 2023 at 5:43 pm

    @Jay:  ha  Alex, help me.  I need to hide my money.

    Rudy you have no money to hide.

  11. 11.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    June 22, 2023 at 5:47 pm

    @JPL:

    @Cameron:

    Should’ve gotten paid up front from Trump

  12. 12.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    June 22, 2023 at 5:47 pm

    @JPL:

    It’s possible that Rudy is on the phone with Alex Jones asking how to hide money.    just sayin

    I was just thinking about his claim to a judge recently that he was broke and wondering if he said that with an eye on this case. He’s got at least two ex-wives who could probably offer some advice on how he hides it, assuming a good lawyer could find a way around the NDAs that I’m sure are there

  13. 13.

    Omnes Omnibus

    June 22, 2023 at 5:48 pm

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):  There is old gold and new gold.

  14. 14.

    Baud

    June 22, 2023 at 5:50 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    Old gold is a jackal.

  15. 15.

    Maxim

    June 22, 2023 at 5:52 pm

    Good. It’s about damn time.

  16. 16.

    Jay

    June 22, 2023 at 5:54 pm

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):

    I had a Rolex once, and a top of the line Seiko,

    the Seiko had that bracelet clip, that opened up 3/4s of the way up The Chief. Did not survive the fall. The Rolex just died, stopped working.

    Early 80’s.

    Since then, cheap Timex’s. On my 2nd now,……

  17. 17.

    Brachiator

    June 22, 2023 at 5:54 pm

    Why did it take so long to clear these people from obvious fake bullshit?

    Additionally, investigators found that social media posts purporting to show an admission of voter fraud from an election worker were created by an individual who “admitted he created a fake account and confirmed the content that was posted on the account was fake.”

    Is this a case of people loving Trump so much that they will falsify shit in order to help make Trump’s nonsense appear more credible?

    Ugh. This crap is so irritating.

  18. 18.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    June 22, 2023 at 5:56 pm

    I can’t believe these women have been under this cloud for this long. It’s beyond outrageous. It’s evil.

  19. 19.

    Jay

    June 22, 2023 at 5:57 pm

    @Cameron:

    nope, that PA bridge collapse due to the burning tanker truck, well, that was “their” off ramp,

    so business has down the past couple of weeks, and seasonal is a cash flow business.

    Maybe TFIG can float him a loan,………….

    LMAO,…..

  20. 20.

    mrmoshpotato

    June 22, 2023 at 6:00 pm

    Leave ’em all wearing a barrel…

    Oh Brother Charlie… LOL!  Yes!

    And I hope, a couple of years down the road, she’s living in a monumentally tacky seaside mansion in Florida and wondering what in hell you do with a gold-plated commode.

    Y-E-S!

  21. 21.

    Spanky

    June 22, 2023 at 6:00 pm

     

    Why did it take so long to clear these people from obvious fake bullshit?

    Is this a case of people loving Trump so much that they will falsify shit in order to help make Trump’s nonsense appear more credible?

    Occam’s Razor, baby!

    And Rudy’s ex-wives have all his money. Shame, that. But I still hope they sue the living shit out of him

  22. 22.

    UncleEbeneezer

    June 22, 2023 at 6:00 pm

    Since everyone is obsessed with small submarines, have you all watched The Investigation on HBO?   It’s one of the best true crime series’ we have ever watched about a truly bizarre, high profile murder in Denmark that involved a submarine.  It also stars Pilou Asbaek, who you may remember from Borgen and Game of Thrones (Euron Greyjoy). And it’s all a true story.  Really, really great series that we couldn’t stop watching.  And it never glorifies the killer.  Quite the opposite.  Anyways, highly recommend it!

  23. 23.

    Leto

    June 22, 2023 at 6:00 pm

    @Jay: then as Charlie says, they need to take every other fucking thing he has. I literally want to see him on a street corner with nothing but a barrel and a pair of suspenders. If he can pass as a hobo or bum, he’s still too rich. If he can afford that shitty hair dye, too fucking rich. They made these two women’s lives a living hell. Fuck’em, forever.

  24. 24.

    Baud

    June 22, 2023 at 6:01 pm

    @UncleEbeneezer:

    It also stars Pilou Asbaek, who you may remember from Borgen and Game of Thrones (Euron Greyjoy).

     

    You sure that wasn’t Troy McClure?

  25. 25.

    mrmoshpotato

    June 22, 2023 at 6:02 pm

    @Baud:

    Burn him.

    Can he be slapped within inches of his Dump-humping, miserable life first?

  26. 26.

    Leto

    June 22, 2023 at 6:02 pm

    @UncleEbeneezer: we have not but that sounds interesting so I’ll add it to the queue. Did you say you were watching Silo? I don’t know how many more episodes it has but it’s been good as well.

  27. 27.

    Steve in the ATL

    June 22, 2023 at 6:04 pm

    @JPL: back when everyone was all gaga over Brad Raffensperger for not being a full on Trumper, we warned them that he was not a good guy!  Hopefully that’s clear now.

  28. 28.

    Steve in the ATL

    June 22, 2023 at 6:07 pm

    @UncleEbeneezer:Pilou Asbaek

    Gesundheit!

  29. 29.

    UncleEbeneezer

    June 22, 2023 at 6:08 pm

    @Leto: Not yet, but Silo is def on our list.  The Investigation and The Staircase (about the Michael Peterson scandal, trial and documentary) are possibly the two best true crime dramas I can remember.  We watch a lot of true crime dramas and documentaries and most are pretty mediocre.  Those two are superb, in part because the stories are just so incredible.

  30. 30.

    Frankensteinbeck

    June 22, 2023 at 6:09 pm

    The US badly needs better anti-harassment laws.

    @Brachiator:

    Is this a case of people loving Trump so much that they will falsify shit in order to help make Trump’s nonsense appear more credible?

    Claiming to be a liberal and then lying about what liberals believe is a longstanding conservative schtick.  They really love how easy the internet makes it.  There have been a few conservative public figures caught lately pretending to be black on Twitter to push their talking points, but it goes so much deeper and is more grassroots than that.

  31. 31.

    Jay

    June 22, 2023 at 6:12 pm

    @Dorothy A. Winsor:

    It’s the web,………

    for those with a clue, they were never “under a cloud”,

    they just had all of wingnuttia rain down on them,….

  32. 32.

    mrmoshpotato

    June 22, 2023 at 6:12 pm

    @UncleEbeneezer:

    a truly bizarre, high profile murder in Denmark that involved a submarine

    Need more information.  Was the submarine dropped on the victim?  Was the victim thrown out of an 8th story window onto the submarine?

    ETA – shot out of a torpedo tube?

  33. 33.

    Annie

    June 22, 2023 at 6:14 pm

    @Frankensteinbeck:

    Oh a thousand times this.  My late uncle used to ask me “why do liberals believe [whatever stupid thing]?” and I’d ask him where he heard it and he’d reply it was on Limbaugh’s show, or late, Fox News.  It was never anything any liberal or Democrat actually believed or had said.

  34. 34.

    Jay

    June 22, 2023 at 6:16 pm

    @mrmoshpotato:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Kim_Wall

  35. 35.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    June 22, 2023 at 6:16 pm

    @Jay:

    Were they both mechanicals? Did you ever have the Rolex or the Seiko serviced?

    I own two automatics, an (old gen with the 7s26 movement) Seiko 5 dress watch and an Orient Kamasu diver. I also own two Casios, one analog and the other digital

  36. 36.

    Leto

    June 22, 2023 at 6:17 pm

    @UncleEbeneezer: what did you think about I’ll be Gone in the Dark? We basically don’t watch any true crime stuff, but we really enjoyed that one.

  37. 37.

    WaterGirl

    June 22, 2023 at 6:18 pm

    @Steve in the ATL: He has thrown thousands and thousands and thousands of “the wrong people” off the voter rolls.  Possibly hundreds of thousands.  NOT OUR FRIEND.

  38. 38.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    June 22, 2023 at 6:18 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    Huh, TIL

  39. 39.

    Burnspbesq

    June 22, 2023 at 6:21 pm

    Judgment proof? Sue anyway, and when the defendants turn the suit into a new way to fleece the rubes, attach the proceeds of the fleecing.

  40. 40.

    mrmoshpotato

    June 22, 2023 at 6:22 pm

    @Jay: Woah.

  41. 41.

    Jay

    June 22, 2023 at 6:24 pm

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):

    Both were mechanicals.

    I only found about 50% of the Seiko. A 2000ft fall onto white granite voids the warranty.

    I “sold” the Rolex to a jewelry shop for credit

    Since then, cheap Timex’s, 2 in almost 50 years.

    Being a hands on guy for the last 30, means they have taken a beating, like me.

  42. 42.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    June 22, 2023 at 6:32 pm

    @Jay:

    I only found about 50% of the Seiko. A 2000ft fall onto white granite voids the warranty.

    Yeah, that’ll definitely do it 👀

    Timex is a pretty good brand. I used to own a few Expedition models when I was a kid in middle school, but I kept losing them 😅

  43. 43.

    UncleEbeneezer

    June 22, 2023 at 6:36 pm

    @mrmoshpotato: I don’t want to give too much away.  The genius of the show, imo, is in the way it withholds information from the viewer.

  44. 44.

    Jay

    June 22, 2023 at 6:37 pm

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):

    on Expeditions?

    Current one I have is an Expedition. Got 4 years out of the battery.

    The bright side is that the 15 minutes on the hour alarm that I couldn’t figure out how to reset, ( it’s now a code you enter with 4 push buttons in sequence), died when the battery died.

    All I want a watch to do is tell time, and maybe tick.

    T bugs me about my phone. I use it as an alarm clock, a web surfing tool, a phone, email and text messages. Her’s has apps.

    WTF are apps?

  45. 45.

    Jackie

    June 22, 2023 at 6:42 pm

    Wasn’t Kanye West also involved with terrorizing Ruby and Shaye?

  46. 46.

    Jay

    June 22, 2023 at 6:47 pm

    @Jackie:

    probably,……..

    here we have a case of somebody using the pile on of the web to terrorize a guy and his lab, with accusations of mistreatment and animal cruelty. The RCMP are now involved, (no animal cruelty, Sam is fat, happy and sassy),

    it’s become in some regards, a version of SWATting.

  47. 47.

    UncleEbeneezer

    June 22, 2023 at 6:48 pm

    @Leto: I’ll Be Gone In The Dark was very well-done and a fascinating story, but not one of my faves overall.  Too much focus on her and Patton and too much glamorizing of online sleuths.  Shortly after watching that one we watched the Night Stalker documentary and honestly thought that one was better.  But that could be because much of the Night Stalker story took place in/around San Gabriel Valley, where we live, so it was very interesting to us.

  48. 48.

    Roger Moore

    June 22, 2023 at 7:03 pm

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):

    The key with all this stuff is that traditional spring watches are all about show rather than timekeeping.  They’re the horological equivalent of competing over who can build the fanciest horse-drawn carriage.  They’re beautiful and amazing, and I can understand why people continue to be fascinated by them, but if you want to tell time well you’re better off getting a quartz watch.

  49. 49.

    Geminid

    June 22, 2023 at 7:11 pm

    @Steve in the ATL: I once gave Raffensperger credit for something where it was due, and I remember you jumping in to to explain to me that he was not a good guy. But I knew that already.

    I was not surprised, though. I run into this a lot. Many people here are obsessed by the fear that someone else might be thinking better of a Republican politician then merited. If someone doesn’t cuss a Republican out they are considered “gaga” about the politician. That seems kind of insecure to me.

  50. 50.

    Geminid

    June 22, 2023 at 7:25 pm

    @Jackie: I think K. West sent one of his minions to harass the two poll workers.

  51. 51.

    Ruckus

    June 22, 2023 at 7:35 pm

    @JPL:

    That would require actual thought and effort.

    From Rudy?

    See, that goes nowhere.

  52. 52.

    Ruckus

    June 22, 2023 at 7:39 pm

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):

    Should’ve gotten paid up front from Trump

    Young man, have you learned NOTHING?

  53. 53.

    Jackie

    June 22, 2023 at 7:43 pm

    @Geminid: So did anything come of that? Just wondering with all the Rudy and his henchmen BS, if West was a part of that operation.

    Thanks for jogging my memory!

  54. 54.

    geg6

    June 22, 2023 at 7:45 pm

    @UncleEbeneezer:

    I’ll Be Gone in the Dark is also excellent.  Michelle McNamara was a great writer.

  55. 55.

    Geminid

    June 22, 2023 at 8:16 pm

    @Jackie: I don’t know, but the finding by Georgia officials may help a civil action against West, or at least his representative. This may have been the incident where the two poll workers met the accuser at a police station, I think with their own safety in mind.

  56. 56.

    kalakal

    June 22, 2023 at 8:17 pm

     

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):

    I plead guilty to being a watch freak.

    And have quite a few, both mechanical and quartz.

    I like NATO straps as they’re

    • very comfortable
    • Cheap
    • Very failure proof – you can lose one of the lug bars and the watch still won’t fall off, no links, no clasp, and they’re very tough
    • Easy to swap out so if you feel like a change, change the strap and voila! looks like a whole new watch

    Quartz are obviously more accurate, but I love mechanicals. If you want to save on battery changes the Seiko solars are good as are the Citizen Eco-drives ( there’s others, those are the ones I have experience of).

    My favourite beater is a Marathon DSS ( The nearest current model is the M50) It’s tough as boots, has a 10 year battery, excellent lume, the hyper rubber band is great. Mine’s well into its second battery and still working fine.

    Like you I think gold on watches looks tacky

  57. 57.

    Chris T.

    June 22, 2023 at 8:30 pm

    Moss was asked about the attorney’s claims that she and Freeman had exchanged a “USB drive” full of votes. Moss revealed that the drive was actually a piece of candy.

    Yes, but – was it full of votes?

  58. 58.

    UncleEbeneezer

    June 22, 2023 at 9:12 pm

    @geg6: We enjoyed it.  But nowhere near as much as some of our friends who think it is the gold standard of true crime, documentary series’.  It’s def good and totally worth watching.  But there are others that I think are better.  To each their own…

  59. 59.

    anastasio beaverhausen

    June 22, 2023 at 10:15 pm

    They should sue Giuliani for defamation, not that he has any assets left to get.

  60. 60.

    AM in NC

    June 23, 2023 at 7:09 am

    @UncleEbeneezer: That was a great series, and the contrast with American “true crime” shows was stark.  Very non-sensational tone, ZERO mention of the killer’s name, and he was not represented at all on screen, and no replay of the act to pornographize the murder.

    Compelling story, writing and acting too.

  61. 61.

    Pajaro

    June 23, 2023 at 7:13 am

    @anastasio beaverhausen:

    They are suing him.  He has already been deposed.

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