A golden oldie…
it used to be only nation-states could cause accidental explosions like this. god bless this country for giving every family an unsecured explosive stockpile https://t.co/y0i4P7kS6p
— Robert Evans (The Only Robert Evans) (@IwriteOK) June 29, 2023
Nation-states (in this case, apparently, Russia) still have some advantages:
this is a proton-m booster, and this flight in 2013 made it the world's largest accidental guided missile (it was carrying a satellite; iirc no one was hurt) https://t.co/XdbDP0yySG
— Gerry Doyle (@mgerrydoyle) July 3, 2023
We also want those videos ?? pic.twitter.com/noVqeiaemP
— U.S Army WTF! Moments (@TheWTFNation) June 27, 2023
Uplifting news to start the (holiday-inflected, ‘vacation’ for many) week…
Thousands of revelers gathered Saturday for the South Korean capital’s Pride celebration, waving rainbow banners and parading through the streets, energized by the city’s decision to deny the event a permit for the use of a prominent plaza. https://t.co/rhoAmkOFJ5
— The Washington Post (@washingtonpost) July 2, 2023
From the Washington Post, “South Korea’s biggest Pride parade was blocked. It came back stronger” [gift link]:
SEOUL — Thousands of revelers gathered Saturday for the South Korean capital’s Pride celebration, waving rainbow banners and parading through the streets despite the sultry monsoon heat, energized by the city’s decision to deny the event a permit for the use of a prominent plaza.
The lively mood was in stark contrast to the relatively muted presence of conservative protesters, who in years past have surrounded the plaza near City Hall, casting a shadow over the Pride celebrations with homophobic slogans blaring through loudspeakers. This year, parade-goers cheekily chanted their slogans back at them while drag queens and DJs partied atop floats.
Holic Sunwoo Yang, chair of the Seoul Queer Culture Festival’s organizing committee, anticipated deliberations over this year’s permit. But she didn’t think it would go as far as a rejection, with the venue instead handed over to a conservative Christian group looking to host a youth concert.
“The initial reaction was shock,” Yang said. “But our baseline mind-set was that we will host the parade anywhere we can, regardless of blockages.”
And so they did, getting permission to move the event into the Euljiro neighborhood of downtown Seoul, where drag queen Manura strutted past booths handing out Pride-themed fans. “Bloom, Queer Nation!” they shouted, the theme of this year’s event, which the organizers said was attended by 150,000 people…
In socially conservative South Korea, homosexuality remains taboo, and same-sex unions are not legally recognized. In a recent Pew Research Center survey, 59 percent of South Koreans said they opposed same-sex marriage — the second-highest rate of opposition among Group of 20 countries surveyed, behind Indonesia. A bill seeking anti-discrimination protections for LGBTQ+ people has failed to gain traction here…
Na-Young Lee, who teaches sociology at Chung-Ang University and specializes in women’s rights, said while the visibility that comes with LGBTQ+ people occupying a public space has led to repression from authorities, “the pushback is not entirely a negative thing in that it validates their existence.”
“The media begin to pay closer attention, and it provides activists an opportunity to reassess the direction of their messaging,” she said. “We see that this dynamic created by suppression and resistance has, in a way, played a role in continuing to further advance LGBT rights.”
Here are some voices from Pride in Seoul: some deeply involved in the celebrations, some whose contributions took other forms, each one a part of the city’s multifaceted LGBTQ+ community…
Hear me now, thank me later: Read the whole thing!
sab
My favorite high school boyfriend was gay. I knew it but he wasn’t out and didn’t know I knew. He had an actual boyfriend that I really liked as a person. Weird fun times. My gay high school boyfriend was my escort at my debutante ball thing, where we raised money for Childrens Hospital by demeaning ourselves as young women.
ETA He loved the whole debutante ball. I would have been appalled except he had so much fun.
Baud
I’ve read that South Korea has a population decline problem, which might hinder them from accepting LGBT rights. I’ve heard similar excuses in the U.S., which is still growing thanks to immigration.
Lacuna Synecdoche
Can’t watch videos. Instead of playing in place, they redirect to Twitter, wherer Twitter says:
oatler
“Something went wrong. Try reloading.”
Twitter since Friday. I’ve been trying all weekend until I’m completely loaded but seems that avenue of pleasure is closed off to me…
Baud
@Lacuna Synecdoche:
@oatler:
Twitter requires you to sign in now.
Nelle
I look at it as gaining a lot more time. I sure ain’t signing up for Twitter, though no stain on those who do. Just not for me.
band gap
@Lacuna Synecdoche: Yeah, those twitter videos haven’t worked for months for me.
AL: why use them anymore?
OzarkHillbilly
Granddaughter’s day, so no Blech for you.
Lacuna Synecdoche
@Baud:
So I’ve heard. I don’t have an account, or at least I don’t think I do – but apparently a lot of people who had accounts at Wells Fargo didn’t think they did either, so who knows?
My main point, though, is that I can’t, won’t, and have no desire, to log into the Elon empire’s Elon tracking network, which is a reasonable thing to not desire.
And AL & other front-page bloggers aren’t going to know how many people are in the same can’t-see-the-video boat – and that the front-pagers may want to look for other video-sharing options – unless we say something.
At least with cropped images, we can right click & select view image to see the whole thing. That’s not an option with video.
sab
Cleveland Plain Dealer just published a list of Ohio cities that don’t allow fireworks. Sadly, my city isn’t one of them so I have to drug my pitbull to get her through this week.
Oddly RWNJ Wadsworth Ohio is among them. Only redeeming feature of that town.
sab
@Lacuna Synecdoche: Hilarious but sad that you could use account status at Wells Fargo to dis the tweeting bird.
🐾BillinGlendaleCA
@OzarkHillbilly: Blech.
Baud
@Lacuna Synecdoche:
Completely reasonable not to log in to Twitter, but that’s not the takeaway I got from your original comment.
As far as other options go, I leave to AL and other front pagers to decide how much extra free work they want to do for us.
Baud
@🐾BillinGlendaleCA:
Thanks for filling the void.
Amir Khalid
@Lacuna Synecdoche:
Same here. Elon strikes again: the Twitter machine has been grinding and chewing up its parts as it works its slow and painful way to a permanent halt.
Betty Cracker
It’s too bad Twitter is borked because that first video is one of the greatest fireworks gone bad vids of all time.
Scout211
Uh oh. Today we can’t watch the videos in embedded tweets. Yesterday all the videos played in the embedded tweets.
At least we can still click through to the news articles attached to the tweet. But for how long?
mrmoshpotato
I really wanna see that first video, but Musk is a pile of birdshit.
Freemark
Some embeds play on this page fine. These embeds all redirect to Twitter. Anyone know, is it the way they are embedded? Or is it the settings of the people posting the videos on Twitter?
This has been an issue for years but only now with Twitter FUBAR have I really cared.
satby
@Lacuna Synecdoche: most of them are on youtube as well. But I distinctly remember a while back that those of us wishing for more political and less fluffy threads were told
to pound sandjust scroll on by. I get a lot of people don’t like twitter, but the fact is that nothing else at the moment is an adequate replacement for the expansive content is a problem that eventually will work itself out. I got onto Bluesky this morning, that’s looking promising. edit: above video heremrmoshpotato
Hooray for South Korea! 🥳🏳️🌈
Scout211
@Betty Cracker: I looked for it just now on you tube and I think I found it but all the “fireworks gone wrong” you tube videos require a sign-in too, because the content is unsuitable for kids.
mrmoshpotato
Blechooray!
satby
@Scout211: see my comment edit at #20
Baud
@satby:
Has Twitter ever hosted videos natively? I’ve always assumed video embeds in tweets linked to YouTube or tiktok or some other site.
MisterDancer
@Baud: To expand — Twitter has a host of situations, now:
So yeah, as Admiral Akbar said in Star Wars, “It’s a TRAP!” I dropped my decade+ old Twitter account as soon as the deal was finalized, and my primary browser blocks Twitter embeds, so I can’t see anything, either.
Even one of my tools for reading Twitter “on the side” has utterly broken with these, and I need to check to see if the other still operates.
What a mess.
satby
@Baud: Most of the ones I’ve seen are TikTok or YouTube
Scout211
@satby:
Requires a sign-in to prove you are over 18. Not accessible to those of us without accounts.
Baud
@Scout211:
Or those of us who are children.
twbrandt
Here’s a YouTube version of the fireworks gone wrong
ETA: This one does not require a YouTube login to prove you are over 18.
MisterDancer
Yep, since 2015.
mrmoshpotato
@Freemark:
Are you trying from a computer or phone?
satby
@Scout211: sorry about that, I have an account and a device that logs me in so automagically I lose track of what requires log ins.
Baud
@twbrandt:
I got the sign in page.
hueyplong
Easy to say when you’re merely an indirect beneficiary (through reading things here) of twitter, but I want it to crash and burn because I’m sick of assholes like Musk getting away with literally every bad thing they do because the justification for no consequences to him is that innocent/marginalized/at-risk people will thereby be hurt. Kind of reads like hostage-taking. “Nice information system/economy you have there; be a shame if something happened to it.”
He needs the oxidized farm implement treatment, as does Trump, and the doing of that will be a positive good for society, as a warning to power-hungry assholes and their enablers if nothing else. We existed before twitter and we’ll exist after it, especially with the known experience of twitter as a guide/template to follow/avoid.
The sooner the apartheid narcissist gets what’s coming to him, the better.
Scout211
It does for me.
Baud
@hueyplong:
Twitter could go belly up today and Musk will be fine. Tesla is where most of his wealth is.
ETA: If you want to blame someone for Musk, blame the traditional automakers for focusing on Republicans who want to own pickup trucks as status symbols rather than taking the lead on EVs early on.
zhena gogolia
@Lacuna Synecdoche: Yep.
hueyplong
@Baud: True, but it’s entirely possible Tesla will be shown the door by the real auto manufacturers, late to the game but probably doing it in a more sustainable manner. We need Musk to go 0-for-2 on this, after which the environment might be right for the US govt to see fit to think there is a national security issue with SpaceX.
Nothing can dent a guy like Musk until suddenly everything does.
satby
ok, now I’m impressed with all the people who don’t have an account on YouTube either. I only created one to be able to be notified when someone I follow posts new content, but it’s the least annoying online account I have.
mrmoshpotato
@satby: Woah! Oops!
sab
@twbrandt: Did not work for me. Youtube arrow just sat there.
Lacuna Synecdoche
@twbrandt:
Danke schön!
kalakal
Here’s the Proton-M launch fail courtesy of youtube. It’s quite the Boom
Proton fail
Baud
@satby:
Isn’t the YouTube account the same as a Google account?
ETA: It’s is for me.
mrmoshpotato
@Baud: Silly Baud. How’re your Trix this morning?
satby
@Baud: might be. Google owns it.
Scout211
Actor Michael Imperioli’s reaction to the SCOTUS ruling Friday:
I hope more celebrities and others with large followings on social media start posting things like this. Too many people are unaware of this ruling and it’s consequences.
lowtechcyclist
@OzarkHillbilly:
And they say this is a full-service blog!
I demand my morning Blech! Like coffee, my morning isn’t complete without it.
ETA: Enjoy your time with the grandkid!
Nukular Biskits
Good mornin’, y’all!
With respect to fireworks, it’s a wonder me and my brother survived our youth.
In MS, you can purchase small WMDs a few weeks leading up to both New Year’s Day and the 4th of July. Each year, we’d save our money and buy a veritable truckload of bottlerockets, firecrackers and “jumpin’ jacks” and toss in a few Roman candles. At home, we’d “disassemble” our munitions and build new ones. Buying the cheaper stuff in bulk more than made up for not having the money to buy the more expensive and sophisticated fireworks.
Over the course of one year, my brother managed to build what in hindsight would have qualified as a IED. He started with a piece of notebook paper laying on a flat surface, emptying the gunpowder from several “munitions” into the center and then carefully spreading it around then tightly folding/wrapping/twisting the paper into a somewhat cylindrical shape. He repeated this process, wrapping the subsequent sheets/gunpowder assemblies around the previous ones. At the final stage (and I have no idea what caused him to decided he’d reached a state of perfection), the super-mega-cracker was about 2 inches in diameter and about 8 inches long.
For reasons known only to two 10-12 year old boys, we decided to placed the IED into the hollow of a catalpa (for us Southerners, pronounced “Kuh Taw Bah”) which had been cut back to about 5 feet tall. We lit the fuse and retreated back to what we considered a safe distance.
The resulting explosion was akin to a small nuclear devise, splitting the poor catalpa tree into a bazillion pieces and sending chunks of wood all over the yard. That we weren’t injured or killed is only by the grace of FSM (“Ramen!”).
Well, we didn’t escape completely without harm. When our mother came running out of the house asking “WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT?!?!?!?!”, we were caught dead to rights.
Not sure what folks in other parts of this great nation call it, but my and my brother both got an “ass-whuppin'” for destroying the tree, being stupid enough to build a bomb and just because we probably deserved it for something else my mother hadn’t found out about.
prostratedragon
@kalakal: Thanks. Hooboy. Here’s the fireworks, without a signin.
catclub
@Betty Cracker: and here it is free on youtube.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHBBmZ3Svkg
who knew?
mrmoshpotato
@kalakal: Hot diggity BOOM!
“Jamie wants big boom.” -Jamie Hyneman (Mythbusters)
satby
@Scout211: That case seems to be blowing up now that the person cited as requesting a wedding website for his same sex marriage has been revealed as a man married to a woman for several years and who never contacted the plaintiff requesting a wedding website. Also because her business didn’t even offer wedding websites, but details, shmetails.
Lacuna Synecdoche
@Baud:
I completely agree, but since all that free work is done to get out a message and share it, I assume the front-pagers want to know if that message isn’t getting out to all of the commenters who do the free work of commenting and participating in the community we’re building together here.
I mean, we’re all free-working together here, aren’t we?
satby
Awesome, now we have 5 links to the same video I linked to @#20.
Scout211
@catclub: Thank you! That one (for some reason) does not require me to sign in.
ETA: @prostrated dragon. That one works, too! Thanks.
twbrandt
@twbrandt: well crap, that video does require a YouTube login. Apologies to all.
lowtechcyclist
@satby:
Let’s see – if my religion says evangelicals are of the Devil and worship the Antichrist, can my business discriminate against them? Sound like it!
Ken
@lowtechcyclist: If you start with Catholics and mixed-race couples, you might get the Supreme Court’s attention faster.
Baud
@Lacuna Synecdoche:
I get a stipend from Soros to be here.
Dorothy A. Winsor
@sab: The vet once prescribed valium for our dog, Roxie, for fireworks and thunderstorms. At the drugstore, the druggist felt he had to read me all the warnings about what Roxie Winsor wasn’t allowed to do while on valium: drive, operate heavy machinery, etc. I kept saying she’s a dog, Roxie is a dog. People waiting in line were laughing.
Ken
@satby: At least it’s not work, so you don’t have to silently fume as your supervisor steals credit.
Lacuna Synecdoche
@Freemark:
I’ve always had this problem on Android/Mobile, because Twitter wants you to use their app, but this is the first time I’ve run into it on PC/Windows/Linux.
zhena gogolia
@satby: Thanks. Stupid idiots. I love that all the comments on YouTube are supportive of these freaks.
Scout211
From exploding family fireworks to politics again. The K-file team at CNN have a fun quote from TIFG in 2016:
But we know, if TIFG is asked about it, he will just say it
waslocker room talk,wasbraggadocioonly applies to Hillary.different-church-lady
@satby:
You remember correctly.
mrmoshpotato
@satby: And the problem is? 😁🧨
Anyway
@twbrandt:
Thank you. Link worked but I had to press something to “Proceed at your own risk”. Didn’t need to log in.
It was a fun video.
mrmoshpotato
@Dorothy A. Winsor: LMAO!
Added – after being read all of the warnings, did you have any questions?
Ken
@satby: It seems somewhat incompetent that that information wasn’t discovered during the original case. Though had it come out and the original case been dismissed, the group would have just taken extra care engineering a replacement lawsuit.
Also, if I put on my tinfoil hat, I can imagine it was deliberate, as a way of getting some media attention for these astroturfed lawsuits.
Uncle Cosmo
For which I must SIGN IN TO CONFIRM MY AGE.
Fuck the UToob bastards too!
(ETA: H/t to Scout 211 at #22 supra.)
Anyway
@satby:
LMAO. Coffee’s still brewing here and i misread your link as Bluesky-related.
Soprano2
@sab: Does that matter? Fireworks aren’t allowed in my city either, but the neighbor across the street was setting them off for about 30 minutes last night around 10:00. No need to call the police, they’re getting lots of calls just like that and they’re always done by the time they show up anyway.
sab
@Dorothy A. Winsor: Lol. Ponyo my dog doesn’t drive or operate heavy machinery or mow the lawn. She does get in trouble when she steps on the tv remote and inadvertantly changes the channel.
AnonPhenom
Attention New York Democrats:
New York Democratic Party Machine Fuckery is afoot!
Dorothy A. Winsor
I’m embedding this Stacy Abrams/John Scalzi tweet. If this ruins your day, I’m sorry.
Jerzy Russian
There was a fireworks show in San Diego where all of the fireworks were accidentally set off at once. I think it was about 10 years ago or so. It was the answer to the age-old question “what would happen if you lit all of the fuses at once?”.
Baud
@Ken:
Colorado did a shit job litigating this case before it got to the Supreme Court. And not just on this one issue.
Soprano2
@Betty Cracker: Here’s a You Tube link to it explaining the story behind it. LOL https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHBBmZ3Svkg
Geminid
I was disappointed that Pew did not survey Turkiye for this poll. I expect acceptance of gay marriage would been fairly low.
After Erdogan turned the opposition’s supposed “LGBTQ-friendly” nature into a campaign issue, there is a lot of fear in Turkiye’s LGBTQ community. The NYT had a good article about this a month ago. This year’s Istanbul Pride March reportedly numbered in the hundreds, with 50 arrests. That’s in a city of over 12 million people.
Ken
@Dorothy A. Winsor: Kaiju Preservation Society is laugh-out-loud funny in places, but very serious in others. It’s also one of the few recent novels I’ve read that is set during the pandemic, which plays a small role in the plot.
sab
@Soprano2: I was so glad when our neighbors’ kid ( a RWNJ) grew up and moved to the tax free suburbs. We were always afraid that he would accidentally ignite our garage roof with his fireworks. Apologizing for accidentally burning your house down really doesn’t help.
Soprano2
@mrmoshpotato: I laugh every time I get the text to “Nitro the dog” saying his medicine is ready for pickup.
Ken
@Soprano2: That someone went to the trouble of an explainer reminds me of the XKCD “Incident Report“.
rikyrah
Good Morning, Everyone😊😊😊
sab
@Jerzy Russian: My RWNJ brother was mayor of a town in Marin County CA when the fireworks accidentally ignited the local wildlife preserve. He just slunk on home so he wouldn’t be seen having enjoyed the fireworks.
All the environmentalists warned them that this might happen.
Baud
@rikyrah:
Good morning.
mrmoshpotato
@Soprano2: Nice! Also, naming your dog after an American Gladiator. 😁
satby
@Baud: I thought Colorado dimissed it and it got to the Extremes on appeal?
bbleh
@satby: @lowtechcyclist: @Ken: there was some commentary on this yesterday, but the upshot is, the Supremos DID know that there was no request for a gay marriage website AND that she didn’t at the time even MAKE wedding websites, but it didn’t matter to Gorsuch et al. As I understand it, they said essentially that, because the state had enforced the law previously against OTHER businesses, she had a reasonable fear that it MIGHT be enforced against her, and that was enough to bring suit.
Sounds pretty specious to me, but I am not a Federalist Society lawyer.
PaulB
My guess is that the Twitter video issue is because of the double embedding. Both of the videos above are in tweets that are embedded in someone else’s tweet. Other tweets in posts below that are the primary tweet for the video don’t have this problem and play just fine on my Windows PC.
It might be interesting to embed the original tweet to see if the video works in that scenario.
catclub
any of the millions of us with a gmail account will be automatically logged into youtube.
Lacuna Synecdoche
@Baud: Touché!
Baud
@satby:
I believe the business sued Colorado. But I think the lawyers who handled the suit didn’t do a good job.
Matt McIrvin
@bbleh: That expansive notion of standing seems very dangerous in itself–this is one of the guardrails keeping the Supreme Court from simply ruling directly as a council of kings.
catclub
@Scout211:
That is the point of the GOP.
sab
@Dorothy A. Winsor: @Ken:
I cancelled twitter account awhile back so can’t read the tweet, but I trust your judgment so just bought the book.
Dorothy A. Winsor
@sab: I haven’t read it, so it’s Stacy Abrams’ judgement you’re trusting. I trusted her and bought the book too.
It’s hard to read what I posted because I was trying to avoid just embedding and letting people follow the link, since folks are having trouble.
Scout211
@Baud: Can Colorado ask for a re-hearing?
Soprano2
@mrmoshpotato: He came already named – we adopted him when one of our cooks died suddenly of a heart attack. But we did have a husky named Nitro a long time ago who was named after the American Gladiator.
Matt McIrvin
@Dorothy A. Winsor: The Kaiju Preservation Society was a fun read–lightweight even for Scalzi, whose style is typically breezy, but entertaining popcorn reading.
Jerzy Russian
@sab: The infamous San Diego show was over San Diego Bay, so the risk of wildfire was minimal.
We had record rainfall this winter, and with it lots of growth. Eventually it will dry out, thereby raising the risk of wildfires. There are always yahoos setting off illegal fireworks, but it seems like this year there are fewer of them? Hopefully that keeps up tonight and tomorrow.
Soprano2
@Ken: I think it’s funny that someone thinks you could stage something like that.
bbleh
@Matt McIrvin: Well, they have the “major questions” doctrine for that.
EmbraceYourInnerCrone
@Nukular Biskits: Some high schoolers in my town managed the burn down the community center with fireworks a few years ago. Was over a year before it was rebuilt and repaired. Meanwhile all the before and after school care, Adult education classes, kids after-school pottery, dance and other classes had to be relocated or cancelled. That and the fact that my dog was a rescued stray( he passed this spring) and absolutely terrified of fireworks and thunderstorms make me kind of hate “personal fireworks”
sab
@Dorothy A. Winsor: When I took the bar review course before my brief inglorious law career ( I did pass the bar exam!) one of the things they warned us was that if you spell “judgement” with an e after the g then you will fail the bar exam. It makes no phonetic sense in America but we just don’t do that here because something something Daniel Webster.
Kind of like current Extreme Court reasoning.
ETA I know the e is there to make the g be pronounced like a j, but this is America and we are exceptional and don’t need to do that.
Matt McIrvin
@sab: The dictionaries I’ve seen generally list “judgment” and “judgement” as valid alternate spellings in American English. But the bar can set whatever usage standards they want.
(Have never liked the “judgment” spelling myself but I use it sometimes. Some online sources seem to insist that “judgement” is only valid in British English but screw them.)
Lacuna Synecdoche
@Jerzy Russian:
So … what did happen?
Is there video? (He said eagerly.)
Dorothy A. Winsor
@sab: It’s the preferred UK spelling. My editor is English and I sometimes lose track.
One of Mr DAW’s co-workers spent a year at John Deere’s facility in France and his kids went to a French school. They had to take English which they were sure would be a gimme. But if they used US spellings, those were marked as errors. They were very indignant about it.
Nukular Biskits
@EmbraceYourInnerCrone:
When my kids were young, I had several acres out in a rural area and we would set off fireworks there.
But, after a few years, they both lost interest and I became more concerned about the overall safety, not to mention all the resulting litter (sticks, paper, etc) all over the place. And that’s not to mention that it totally freaked out the animals.
So I stopped buying them.
CliosFanBoy
@sab: What’s your city?? (I apologize, I have forgotten.) I grew up in Dayton. There was a small fireworks factory somewhere south of the city, but if you bought them there, you had to sign a form saying you would not set them off in Ohio or some such. (wink wink).
sab
@Dorothy A. Winsor: I majored in history with an English focus, and it really damaged my spelling. Taking French didn’t help either.
I had a friend in high school with a Norwegian mother. Her older brother emigrated to Norway to dodge the draft, and discovered that they didn’t think he spoke English. He spoke American English (a weird dialect.)
sab
@CliosFanBoy: Akron!
Dorothy A. Winsor
@sab: Spelling is mostly a visual skill. You acquire it from reading and recognize a misspelled word because it looks funny. Reading student papers completely wrecked my spelling because I saw so many misspelled words.
Laertes
I love the guy who, at 0:15, realizes that he’s standing next to a car full of fireworks that are about to explode, and he…turns around and puts his fingers in his ears.
Jerzy Russian
@Lacuna Synecdoche: I am on the phone, but here is an attempt at linking:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ndVhgq1yHdA
I don’t think signing in is necessary (famous last words).
CliosFanBoy
@sab: OK. You know, I have never been to that corner of the state, except once to change planes in Cleveland. It’s like I-70 was a boundary you rarely if ever, crossed. I’ve been to Cincinnati more times than I can remember (go Reds!). Been to Columbus many times. Dated a girl in Zanesville for quite a while. And I went to grad school in Athens (Bobcats!).
I had a colleague a while ago that was born and raised in Youngstown. She had a great story about seeing a mob hit once (the target turned on their car’s ignition and BOOM!).
CliosFanBoy
@Dorothy A. Winsor:
I think that MAY have to do with how you learned to read. If you learned with the “whole word” method, which most of us here did if you’re a Boomer or Early-Gen X, then the word “looks wrong.” If you learned to read phonically, I think you see misspelled words differently. Maybe.
sab
@Dorothy A. Winsor: My nine year old granddaughter was here this weekend making cookies. She kept babbling about sturdiness (from karate class?) and then got into rhymes and sturdy v dirty which got me onto sturdy v dirty v stir which I thought was weird and interesting. She just thought “Whatever. ..” Grandma rambling again.
CliosFanBoy
@sab:
A buddy of mine did the whole “let’s wander around western Europe” thing in the 70s. He and his buddy tried to hit on some cute girls from Quebec. The girls turned up their noses at their American high school French. Then they met some real French girls, who laughed and told them “We don’t know what they speak in Quebec, but it isn’t French!!’ (My wife’s father’s family was French-Canadian from northern New England, so I know the Canadian version of French is quite different.)
sab
@CliosFanBoy: I have been to Cincinnati twice in my life and to Dayton once. Bought a lovely guitar in Dayton on my one trip there.
ETA I just realized this year that Ohio is bigger than Scotland in area, and has twice the population. We could be a whole country by ourselves. No wonder I haven’t seen it all.
Lacuna Synecdoche
@Jerzy Russian:
Wow, that was actually kind of … beautiful.
Much less destruction and terror than I expected.
I particularly liked the random bystander comment at the end: “Best fireworks show ever!”
mountain granny
@satby: maybe try this (with commentary, but visual intact)
sorry I didn’t do it right.
CliosFanBoy
@Dorothy A. Winsor:
I told my students because I’m such a poor speller myself that it was entirely fair to mark them down for misspellings. If they spelled a word so wrong that I (!) noticed it, it was fair game.
Jackie
@Scout211: It just asked me to sign in through my Google account then I could watch it.
sab
@CliosFanBoy: LMAO, but unfair.
Citizen Alan
@Lacuna Synecdoche: I have the exact opposite problem. I can’t delete my account because i was suspended permanently years ago for hurting some MAGAts feelings over a Covid mask issue.
sab
Years ago I had a friend who almost flunked first grade because she wouldn’t accept that “been” is prounounced “bin” because that wasn’t how they pronounced it at home. Her mother was Canadian and her father was Dutch.
Kathleen
@satby: The first actual article I saw about this was the New Republic article, which was linked in a Josh Mankiewicz tweet:
https://newrepublic.com/article/173987/mysterious-case-fake-gay-marriage-website-real-straight-man-supreme-court
The story seems to be picking up steam on Twitter.
rikyrah
@OzarkHillbilly: 🤗🤗🤗
Matt McIrvin
@CliosFanBoy: When I was in grad school a bunch of us used to go up to the Montreal Jazz Festival every summer. I remember, at one point, seeing one of the acts playing at the free outdoor stages and wondering why I could actually understand everything they were saying so much better than I could most of the people around me. It turned out they were from Paris. They were speaking the dialect I learned in school (and, since they were making announcements from a stage, probably not using heavy argot).
A more fluent friend of mine mentioned he’d overheard people in the crowd making fun of their weird prissy accents.
dnfree
Deleted, already said by others.
Matt McIrvin
…but my daughter who is learning Spanish has mentioned that she speaks it with a distinctly Dominican accent because a bunch of her school friends are Dominican. Very different from what she heard in Madrid.
dnfree
@sab: I had a sadistic elementary teacher from somewhere in the south who insisted that Mrs. was pronounced “mizrees”, as in “Mizrees Smith”. In northern Illinois we pronounced it “Missus”, more or less.
It was on our spelling test and I spelled it “miseries” because I was stubborn, and I got in trouble. My mystified parents were called in.
Another Scott
@Matt McIrvin: My J took years and years of French in school and is quite proud of her standard accent. She was quite pissed off at a waiter in Montreal telling her that her pronunciation was ok but not quite right…
😜
Cheers,
Scott.
Bruce K in ATH-GR
@Matt McIrvin: Scalzi tells a story in the afterword to Kaiju Preservation Society about how he’d been trying to write a novel all through 2020, caught something that felt for all the world like COVID even though all the tests came up negative, and then right when he was starting to roll again, January 6, 2021 happened (“Insurrections really are focus pullers. I didn’t know that before! I didn’t have to know that before.”) and then a computer glitch ate two days of work when he was finally rolling again, so he finally had to send an abject note to his editor confessing that the novel with its impending contractual deadline was not about to happen.
And then, right after he got an understanding and sympathetic reply from his editor, his subconscious dumped a complete, completely different novel into his consciousness, or so he relates the experience.
He’s quite up-front that Kaiju Preservation Society is light fare even for him – he compares it to a light pop song – but it was the sort of writing he needed to write at that time.
It doesn’t hurt that it has a tech-bro vulture-capitalist nepo-baby without a shred of decency as an antagonist. Plus blatant references to Uday and Qusay Trump (I can never keep straight which one is which).
TriassicSands
@mrmoshpotato:
The only way I’d sign in to see a fireworks display gone wrong would be if I knew Musk was a victim.
TriassicSands
@Dorothy A. Winsor:
Student papers can sometimes almost look like a foreign language.
twbrandt
@Matt McIrvin: a French Canadian friend of mine honeymooned in France, where he was told his accent was “folkloric”.
Steeplejack
@Lacuna Synecdoche:
The front-pagers do know, along with most of the commenters, and the situation has been discussed ad infinitum since Friday—including the issues you bring up. So you’re not delivering a hot scoop. But, hey, style points for patting yourself on the back for the free work of commenting.
Manyakitty
@sab: really? We’re going to a party to see the fireworks in Wadsworth tonight. Now I has confuse.
Steeplejack
@PaulB:
Excellent explanation!
Manyakitty
@Citizen Alan: I got suspended for asking Andy Clyde if his religion demanded witch burning. 🤷♀️
leeleeFL
@sab: This makes me smile so much! All my Proms were meh! Even the ones when I loved my dates! Imagine how much fun your Gay Boyfriend could have had if he and his “Love” could’ve attended together!So many lost moments!
And now, those bastards want them back! Fuck to the NO!
satby
@Manyakitty: Oh, but WELL DONE YOU for that!
Dan B
@sab: When we moved from Wadsworth to Arkansas we did fireworks. I was glad when we moved back to Ohio for that one reason, and the reduced racism.
Ruckus
@Lacuna Synecdoche:
I’ve had a twit account for far longer than elon has been fucking it up. I wouldn’t open an account now if I didn’t have one. I also only go on twit when someone points out a particular post that is worth seeing. Which means at best I’m on twit for maybe a minute total a week now. At most. Used to be a slight bit more…..
Ruckus
@mrmoshpotato:
There aren’t enough birds in the world to build a pile as big as muskie.
Ruckus
@hueyplong:
I really, really hate to say this but tesla has sold well over a million cars. I believe tesla has sold more EVs than all the other manufactures combined. They are sold on at least 3 continents with factories on each. They are the second most sold brand, after Toyota, in CA. Tesla is not going away soon.
Timill
@Ruckus: The good/bad news: Tesla’s 2023 Q2 production was over 460k units worldwide, so they’ll presumably do more that 2M units this year.
Tesla 2023 Q2 press release