As they did in 2022, relentless Republican attacks on reproductive health care will energize voters — especially young voters — to mobilize and vote to defend their freedoms in 2024.
Republicans will pay a price for their extremism! That's not a threat — it's a prediction. -NP pic.twitter.com/oZOnYI7yYB
— Nancy Pelosi (@TeamPelosi) July 5, 2023
One year after the Dobbs decision, I joined @KekePalmer to discuss the maternal and reproductive healthcare crises our nation faces and what can be done. pic.twitter.com/sIFO1ceUyp
— Vice President Kamala Harris (@VP) July 5, 2023
Coretta Scott King said the fight for civil rights must be fought and won with each generation. At this moment in time, we are that generation. The gains we have made will never be permanent unless we are vigilant—let us fight for the future we deserve. pic.twitter.com/Y4QN59BztX
— Kamala Harris (@KamalaHarris) July 6, 2023
"When Vice President Kamala Harris appeared at the Democratic National Committee’s annual LGBTQ gala in New York late last month, she raked in $1.25 million, more money than any headliner in the event’s 24-year history, two sources told The Messenger." https://t.co/AInYf4EkH8
— David Darmofal (@david_darmofal) July 4, 2023
Today, @VP, @SBAIsabel, @RepJudyChu stopped by a small business and met the owners who were helped by SBA’s Community Advantage Program. As VP said, Bidenomics means when we support our nation’s small businesses “we invest in America, invest in our economy and make us strong.” pic.twitter.com/TJnwxdfOip
— Kirsten Allen (@KirstenAllen46) July 5, 2023
Congress is back in session next week.
House Dems are fighting to free America from the scourge of gun violence.
It’s time for Extreme MAGA Republicans to join us.
— Hakeem Jeffries (@RepJeffries) July 5, 2023
Baud
Joy Reid had a panel in the one year anniversary of Dobbs, and Kamala was on it. I think she’s grown into her role.
Nelle
I’m bringing a comment from a previous thread up here:
Nelle
JULY 6, 2023 AT 8:32 AM
What the Iowa guv, Kim Reynolds, lacks in intelligence (a lot), she makes up for in zealotry (a lot). She lost in court on her attempt to get a six week guard rail against abortion recently, so she has called her legislature back into session to do it legislatively. It is her legislature – she campaigned against Republicans who didn’t do exactly as she wished on the school voucher bill (probably with the help of a lot of dark money) in the last election, got them ousted and replaced by ditto-heads. The first thing that her acolytes did last January was pass an even more generous school voucher program that sucks money from taxpayers and public schools and funnel it to private schools (at least 80% goes to Catholic schools. My people left Catholicism in the 1500’s and have always advocated for church/state separation – Anabaptist Menonites.). We also have the highest property taxes here of any place we’ve ever lived (seven states).
Reynolds calls anti-abortion bills the most important human rights issue there is, while she strips rights from trans, etc
https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/politics/2023/07/05/kim-reynolds-calls-legislature-special-session-july-10-new-iowa-abortion-law-restrictions/70378574007/?utm_source=desmoinesregister-dailybriefing-strada&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=dailybriefing-headline-stack&utm_term=hero&utm_content=pdem-desmoines-nletter65
Kay
I disagree with “all but certain”. Ohio’s highest court is far Right and corrupt and the Sec of State is a wholly political actor, but I do think odds are they will prevail (with some bumps in the road) and it will be on the ballot. Collecting almost 2x the signatures needed is standard practice.
Betty Cracker
@Nelle: Ugh. Reynolds sounds as about as awful as DeSantis. It sucks to be governed by fanatics.
OzarkHillbilly
Today in “Elections have consequences:” Wisconsin governor slashes tax cuts and boosts school funding – for centuries
Dorothy A. Winsor
@OzarkHillbilly: Maybe Wisconsin is going to dig itself out of its R-induced misery and join Michigan and Minnesota in creating a livable upper Midwest.
Kay
They’re coming after birth control next. This stuff goes directly from Pool, Shapiro and Bannon to Joe Rogan, Glenn Greenwald, Mat Taibii and RFK Jr.
The Bitter Middle Aged Authoritarian Men of the Right.
I would say “Elon Musk” but Musk is already on board the anti birth control push.
Big Pharma! The Medical Establishment!
It would be amusing to ask RFK Jr about birth control pills. I guarantee he opposes.
OzarkHillbilly
So how not popular is he? Well, he only sold 8,000 tickets total for 3 events in Sydney, Brisbane and Melbourne. Also, he is really bad at planning ahead.
narya
@Kay: The push against woman-controlled contraception began as soon as more methods became available. The articles AGAINST oral contraceptives sounded exactly like this crap–and it was clear, even then (early-mid 60s) that the objection was to women having control over their bodies and reproductive choices, not to the methods per se.
And you’re absolutely right–they’ve been aiming for Griswold since it was handed down.
Betty Cracker
@Kay: Going after birth control seems like a really dumb move politically.
Tony Jay
@OzarkHillbilly:
FTFNYT Headline –
Wisconsin voters face $1.75 billion tax-jump as ‘Far-Left’ Governor rejects bipartisan budget agreement
I mean, they might not go with this line of reporting…
Baud
I guess the microblogging war is officially on. Meta has launched Threads, which is tied to Instagram, and claims 10 million signups, a couple of them voluntary.
SFAW
@Kay:
Although I’m unfamiliar with Ohio’s relevant laws — hell, I’m unfamiliar with MA’s relevant laws, and I’ve lived here for 45 years — I would not be surprised if (assuming the Ohio referendum/ballot initiative passes) the OH lege passed laws negating the pro-choice effort(s). Florida did it with the restore-voting-rights laws [sic] that were passed with a significant majority; my sense is OH is Florida without the coastline.
Ken
So you and Kay might think, but let me mansplain the reasoning behind it…
OzarkHillbilly
@Betty Cracker: Hence Republicans doing it.
Baud
@Betty Cracker:
The worst that can happen is failure. At some point, we have to figure out his to get people to not only reject specific right wing initiatives, but the culture that spawns them. Until then, we’re just going to be playing whack a-mole.
Kay
@Betty Cracker:
It’s the same woo woo and deliberate deception as the anti vaxx Right.
For example. The ordinary way to compare risks of birth control is to compare to the risk of pregnancy. Pregnancy carries more health risks for women than birth control does. Idiots think because it’s “natural” it’s not risky but of course it is- especially in the US where we have horrible maternal health outcomes. But the misinformation on Twitter and Rumble doesn’t compare birth control risk to pregnancy risk- it compares to zero risk.
Ken
@OzarkHillbilly: I notice that Trump Jr. avoided saying that they “cancelled” the tour; instead they just “postponed” it indefinitely. Though cynical me thinks the real reason is that it lets them keep the money already paid for tickets.
eclare
@Baud:
I am not on Instagram, and so far haven’t had any problems with Twitter (I have an account), so I don’t see me jumping to Threads anytime soon.
Ohio Mom
@Kay: Months ago, I was so excited to see a signature collector outside the mall, so happy to sign the petition because I worried it would be hard to find one. (Obviously, I would have gone looking for one if need be.)
But soon I couldn’t count the number of times I was asked to sign that petition — those people were everywhere, at least everywhere I go. They are a large, organized and determined bunch.
And now everywhere I go, I’m asked to Vote No on Issue One. I am cautiously optimistic we will prevail.
rikyrah
Good Morning Everyone 😊😊😊
SFAW
@Tony Jay:
For me, one of the big downsides from Apartheid Clyde’s (Emerald Shitty?) fuckery with tweetering is the obstacles (for me, at least) to reading New York Times Pitchbot. But thanks for your efforts!
[NB: Not looking for jackals to explain to me how to read DougJ’s stuff, etc.]
Baud
@eclare:
I’m just glad folks now have a choice of billionaires to support.
@rikyrah:
Good morning.
Kay
@Ohio Mom:
Oh, I’m glad. I have some ladies who are interested in working on that and I haven’t been able to hook them up with the organizers. I’ll try again when I’m next back in Ohio.
Agree about the reproductive rights effort. Well organized and effective. Good job.
SFAW
@Kay:
But outcomes for Black wimmins are worse than white women — did I read that mortality rates for Black women were 50-percent (or more) higher? — so it’s all OK for the RWMFs
geg6
@Betty Cracker:
Well yes. That’s why they do it. They’re incredibly stupid.
eclare
@Baud:
As long as I get my Paul Bronks fix, I’m good.
SFAW
@Baud:
Are you planning to start your own tweeter-like site, too? Be nice to have a trifecta.
Ohio Mom
@SFAW: You guessed correctly, though not on the details. They are attempting to increase the number of votes needed to amend the state constitution from 50 percent plus one to a full 60% ahead of the November election where an amendment to protect reproductive rights will be on the ballot. That’s a big jump, more votes than many past amendments to the constitution garnered.
To do this, a special election in (traditionally low turn-out) August is being held — the issue will be the only thing on the ballot. I don’t know how much it costs to run a special election, other than a lot, another example of the “fiscally conservative and responsible” right wing.
Cheryl from Maryland
@Kay:
@narya: As well as their continuing ignorance and/or obliteration of real life women’s health issues. I had irregular periods as a teen with public accidents. My choices were – wear a sanitary pad every day just in case, suffer mental health issues from bloody clothes in high school, take the Pill. Hell yes I took the Pill.
Baud
@SFAW:
Yeah, I’m working on a project called Morse Code. I have a feeling the next generation of youths will be all in on things old school.*
* Recently, there was a reddit thread where the kids were fascinated by how physical grooves in vinyl could reproduce sounds.
Kay
@SFAW:
Yup.
The mortality rates for Hispanic women are going straight up, but it’s all moving in the wrong direction.
Partly it’s because we have no paid post-birth maternal leave policy. Women die in the US in the 30 day period after they give birth as often as they die pregnant or in the process of giving birth. A big reason other countries do so much better is they have public policy to protect womens health- we just don’t have any.
Ken
@Ohio Mom: And don’t forget the best part — the Republicans passed a law earlier this year banning August special elections. But they decided they needed this one, and the courts agreed that they could ignore the law, I assume by applying that great legal principle “It’s OK if you’re a Republican”.
Deputinize Eurasia from the Kuriles to St Petersburg
@Baud:
I signed up for it – the thing is great, and missing the mass of white supremacists, crypto bros, douchebros, goldbugs and edgelords that made Twitter increasingly miserable.
Shit, if advertisers take notice, Zuck will make back his losses from Meta (which wasn’t evil, just I’ll-conceived).
bbleh
@Kay: @narya: yup. First Obergefell, then Lawrence, then Griswold. And I wouldn’t be surprised if they went after Loving too.
@Betty Cracker: dumb never seems to have stopped them before. For that, at least, we can be somewhat thankful.
And re “as they did in 2022, relentless Republican attacks on reproductive health care will energize voters — especially young voters — to mobilize and vote to defend their freedoms in 2024,” coming from anybody else I’d write this off as mostly run-of-the-mill boosterism, but coming from Nancy Smash, I believe!
Eunicecycle
@Ohio Mom: also signatures must be from all 88 counties, not just 44. That would be much harder to organize.
Kay
@Baud:
Living with my youngest this summer, it’s cool now NOT to be attached to your phone. They go to great lengths to tell one another their phone was “off” or they “haven’t looked today” etc.
I think it’s good!
Percysowner
@Kay: The Ohio Supreme Court already approved the language for the Reproductive Rights Issue, which is about more than abortion, it also enshrines contraception, fertility treatments, miscarriage care and continuing pregnancy care as rights, so they should uphold it if it passes. Yes, getting twice as many signatures as needed is SOP, but they got them pretty quickly, considering the fact that proponents had to wait to have the language approved by the court.
Issue One in August will be the big test. I live in a reasonably liberal area, so I’m seeing lots of signs and ads opposing it. I’m going to get postcards and do some writing, to see if I can help.
Kay
@Deputinize Eurasia from the Kuriles to St Petersburg:
I might sign up for it just because I have come to loathe Elon Musk. I want him to fail.
Ken
@Baud: I’d think you would prefer the Baudot code.
I like your idea of going old-school, though, and am looking forward to the tours. “And this is our data center. You can see we have three Babbage engines, the largest such concentration of computing power on this continent.”
Geminid
@Baud:I’m working on a platform called Remorse Code. It’s for overly self-critical people.
Baud
@Kay:
Young people don’t want to slack off work anymore.
Dorothy A. Winsor
@Kay: If Threads works like twitter used to, I’d sign up for it. I can’t yet because I keep stuff like that on my desktop rather than my phone. I don’t want social media following me around all day on my phone. Threads isn’t yet available for desktop. I’ll see how and when it works out the kinks.
Baud
@Ken: I prefer it now that’s I’ve learned of it.
@Geminid:
Slogan: Remorse Code: You’ll Regret It!
Soprano2
@Kay: What’s funny is that safe, reliable birth control makes it much easier for women to have sex with men they aren’t married to! I agree that they’re coming after birth control, but that will be a much harder lift because unlike abortion, almost every woman of childbearing age uses some kind of birth control, and most of them won’t want to give it up.
SFAW
@Geminid:
Or Remoras Code, used by RWMFs who leech off of America?
OzarkHillbilly
eta: video at the link
Kay
@Baud:
Guffaw. He’s working at a car wash. I wanted him to work in a mushroom processing facility (overtime!) but he looked at me – horrified – and shook his head.
He’s doing study abroad so he has to save 2000 this summer. Should have taken the mushroom packing job, plus, I want to know if they actually sprinkle extra dirt on the mushroom when they pack them into the little blue crates.
UncleEbeneezer
@Baud: To be honest, every manner of recording of sound will always be like sorcery to me.
Anyway
@Baud:
Back in MY day we were such excellent slackers. We took pride in it.
Redshift
@Deputinize Eurasia from the Kuriles to St Petersburg:
I saw a claim that an algorithm view is the only option, there’s no choice to see only people you follow and or to see posts in chronological order. Is that true?
lowtechcyclist
@Kay:
If that’s happening with my almost-16 year old and his friends, I haven’t seen the least sign of it. The phone might as well be as firmly attached as a prosthesis would be.
SFAW
@Ohio Mom:
In a rational world, I’d wonder how the would retroactively (so to speak) require the women’s healthcare ballot question meet a different standard, especially with only three months between the (possible) rule change and the November election.
But it’s RWMFs, so I figure they’ll always find a way to fuck over democracy.
OzarkHillbilly
@Anyway: Yep, kids these days. “Hey! Go mow somebody else’s lawn!”
Kay
@Soprano2:
I knew the entire burden of the Right wing/Left wing “return to nature” would fall on women. The men are all like… podcasters or influencers sitting on their asses while their “tradwives” have 14 children (so half can die from preventable disease) and tote water from the well.
Steve Bannon isn’t chopping any wood. They all look like they’d drop dead if they picked up a tool heavier than a fork. 100% of the “tradition” will fall on women.
eclare
@Redshift:
I read that last night, those are huge dealbreakers for me.
Redshift
@Kay: And a lot of the right has been in a panic for a while now about (white) Americans not having enough children. (Sometimes saying “white” out loud, sometimes pretending that’s not what they mean.) The traditional authoritarian synergy of controlling women/racial purity/population=power (somehow). Ugh.
Tony Jay
@SFAW:
You are very welcome.
Has anyone done the Apartheid “Right Turn” Clyde joke yet? I feel I would have seen it done if they had. Or perhaps ’80s Clint Eastwood and an orangutan movies just aren’t the memeload I think they are.
RedDirtGirl
Open thread? Dog injury trigger warning.
my dog Nola was attacked on our morning walk this morning. The other dog was off leash and grabbed her by the shoulder and it took several bystanders and about 20 minutes before we got them apart. Nola is currently at the emergency clinic and it’s not yet clear if the injuries are just puncture wounds or if there is a fracture.
I’ve seen the owner before and she has no control over her 2 dogs. Bike riders yell at her because they run in the bike lanes, and other dog walkers who stopped said they have witnessed other attacks. She was contrite, and has offered to pay the vet bill, but clearly her dogs are dangerous.
Police came, but unless a person is injured, it is a civil matter. Any advice from the dogosphere?
Jeffro
3 topics going forward, Dems. 3 topics should be in the headlines, non-stop:
Fear is a powerful motivator, and unlike the Republicans, we don’t even need to make things up to scare people into acting (to include voting).
Repoductive freedom under assault.
A world very nearly on fire.
A former president and his goons threatening violence whenever they don’t win elections and/or get their way.
JCJ
@Tony Jay: Wow – Governor Evers described as “Far Left” is one of the more ridiculous descriptions of him I have ever heard. My daughter describes him (in a good way) as being as exciting as a wet sock. When he won re-election last year we were thrilled because the Republican was an enormous asshole. He is the firewall between us and total GOP control which would likely be even worse than it was a dozen years ago when the execrable Scott Walker was governor. I suppose compared to the neo-fascists that want to ruin the state with their horrible policies he is far left, but on an absolute scale he is somewhat left of center.
As for Wisconsin regaining sanity like Minnesota and Michigan – don’t hold your breath.
Redshift
@eclare:
Yeah. Twitter kept trying to take them away, but finally gave up and has been so much more usable in the years since. I have no use for a Twitter-like platform that replicates FB’s “finding out somebody died six days later or never because FB decided it wasn’t ‘important’,” and constant rearranging of the UI to hide features like user lists.
Tony Jay
@Kay:
That ‘Where All De White Children At/Fear of a Black & Tan Europe’ message is being pushed hard over here by the Far-Right National Conservative (Nat-C for short, bless their hearts) and New Conservative splinter groups slowly working their way out of the collapsing Conservative and Unionist Party.
They’re all preaching from the same (I mean, the exact same) hymn sheet as the American brand of Womb Warriors; about one step away from out and out 14 Words territory but a huge, well-funded lunge in that direction all the same. These are the people who want the UK out of the European Convention on Human Rights (we can sit alongside Belarus and Russia) because it might stop them blocking all immigration and who think Woke gender-predators are brainwashing Der Yoot into only having one gay baby every decade.
So, yeah, it’s going great.
Van Buren
Life with my son with autism:
Ghost of Joe Liebling’s Dog
@Ken: Ignore Wikipedia’s pronunciation key, though. The correct pronunciation is “Baud, O-T”.
Suzanne
@Kay:
Absolutely correct. The tradition they want to restore is patriarchy. Sexual, reproductive, physical, financial control of women by men.
Tony Jay
@JCJ:
Fake News! It was a made-up example of how you could imagine the FTFNYT slanting coverage of the MAGOP getting pantsed in Wisconsin to make it look like a problem for Democrats. That’s why ‘Far-Left’ was in quote-marks, to allow Mr invented headline editor to cover-ass by claiming “Well, that’s what Republicans are saying“.
I swear, one of these days I’m going to change my name to Poe. 8-)
MattF
@Redshift: Apparently. Looks like an Instagram add-on, has some way to go, unless you like reading random stuff from millions of people you don’t know. My initial free advice is to get your Instagram setup working, then install the Threads app. Worked for me.
narya
I don’t usually watch Lawrence O’Donnell, but I happened to have him on last night, and it was a pretty good opening segment; he talked about his “crisis of faith” in the SCOTUS. He also highlighted Kagan’s dissent declaring the student loan decision unconstitutional (and Strict Scrutiny has been detailing the dissents as well, many of which do not have the traditional “respectfully” appended to them). It was worth sitting through, if anyone wants to track it down for their normie friends/relatives.
Soprano2
@Kay: The only part of that “tradition” they want for themselves is giving men the absolute right to control everything. They wax romantic about the old days when men were men and women were women, but they don’t want to do heavy manual labor or have to hunt and fish and farm for their food! All that burden falls on others, because they see themselves as too important for that kind of stuff.
I think most of the obsession with the coming apocalypse on the right is the idea that it would make being big and strong and able to use a firearm really important things again. More and more jobs don’t require physical strength, so it’s getting harder and harder to exclude women. They want that kind of thing to come back, because they believe it would elevate men to the top of the heap again.
Kay
@Tony Jay:
I’m sort of interested in the horseshoe Left’s turn against womens autonomy. Not surprised, but interested. That would be a great political article, right? Something new and interesting. The Angry Men of the Nationalist Left/Right. I’d read that article. Instead we’ll get the 500th Trump explainer.
Ohio Mom
@Percysowner: I already got a postcard, that effort is well underway.
@Ken:
@Eunicecycle: Thanks for the additions. They are important.
So far, in my everyday life, which I fully recognize consists of conditions that are unique to me and my family, I have not felt any personal repercussions from the damage the Republicans in Columbus are doing.
But I don’t expect my luck to hold out. Now on the federal level, yes, Republicans have done lots of things that have hurt me directly.
Tony Jay
@Kay:
Yeah, but if anyone actually did any serious, professional digging around those parts of the (not actually) Left they’d soon turn up funding links and organisational infrastructure support with the Far-Right’s sugar daddies, and that wouldn’t do any good to the narrative (very popular over here since 2017) that Left wingers are just National Socialists who don’t wash their socks.
The Money doesn’t care how any particular progressive, left-wing reforming government is prevented from winning elections, just so long as they do get prevented from winning elections. That’s what they’re paying for. Results. Everything else is just bunting.
H.E.Wolf
Right there with you! I’ve got a small batch from PostcardsToVoters.org. For me, getting 3 pre-written phrases (and a 3-day interval in which to write) are a great system.
My goal is to get this batch in the mail by Saturday, since stamp rates go up 3 cents on July 9. (Previously purchased “Forever” stamps will be unaffected.)
Ohio Mom
@Van Buren: Laughing with you, not at you,
Sign me, Another autism parent
Mike in NC
@OzarkHillbilly: Can’t imagine people anywhere paying good money to listen to the vile Trump Jr hawk his bullshit, unless the price of a ticket included a Louisville Slugger.
Tony Jay
@Van Buren:
I think that cocktail is called a Chancellor’s Caribbean Shipwreck.
satby
@Van Buren: you’re close to a Texas Tea
Cheryl from Maryland
@Van Buren: Aspirin.
Kay
@Tony Jay:
I’ve been convinced for the past two decades that the Ohio Green Party is 100% funded by the Right.
They’re so incrediby bad at being Leftists it has to be role playing.
Salty Sam
First, you get a standard size plastic trash can, along with various types of fruit punch mixes…
Ken
@Van Buren: This is why we have the generic term “booze”.
satby
@RedDirtGirl: Well, a lawsuit would probably end with her paying the vet and court costs, so if she doesn’t pay drag her to small claims court.
I can’t believe your municipality doesn’t have some sort of nuisance or aggressive dog statute. Call animal control in your area, they can tell you the laws, and take a report for the future if they’re called out for the dogs.
Ksmiami
@bbleh: but the other side of it is strong messaging about reducing the Extreme Court’s jurisdiction. It’s not enough to vote for good policies if the SC is just tossing out our legislation Willy nilly, voters will think what is the point. Or destroy the Court at this point. It’s a burden to a better America.
tobie
I’m not sure where I heard this but some pundit was saying the next two years are going to be one continuous Impeach-a-palooza in the Republican-controlled House. House GOPers are planning on impeaching Biden, Garland, Mayorkas, and maybe Cardonna. This of course will go nowhere in the Senate. I hope the effort will be seen by low-information voters as a revenge-quest and nothing else.
Eunicecycle
@Salty Sam: uggg! Even almost 50 years since I drank that, just reading that gives me a hangover.
Ksmiami
@Ohio Mom: Corruption is insidious though and starts to affect everything even if it’s invisible.
CaseyL
@Baud:
@Deputinize Eurasia from the Kuriles to St Petersburg:
Someone on Mastodon said that if you ever want to leave Threads, you can’t delete it without also deleting your Instagram account. I can’t confirm that, but it seems like that could be a big issue.
Kay
It’s 68 degrees in Copenhagen today. Sigh.
I have to move (still further) north. I can’t deal with 90 degrees anymore.
Baud
@CaseyL:
Yes, I’ve heard that too. I don’t have an Instagram account, but I assume it’s different than a Facebook account.
UncleEbeneezer
I’m shocked that the assholes at The Young Turks are Transphobic /sarcasm…
satby
@Baud: it is, but they all can link to each other.
Edit: millennials fled to Insta as FB became geezerville, and the current youngs fled Insta for Snapchat.
SiubhanDuinne
@Van Buren:
He decided it would be good to take the approximately one third full bottles of vodka, rum, and scotch in my cabinet and combine them into 1 bottle to save space.
Not sure what to mix this with…
Make a bunch of small fruitcakes. Wrap the loaves in cheesecloth, and every couple of weeks soak them with the VoRuSco. By December, you’ll have a lovely collection of nice boozy gifts for everyone on your Christmas list.
Follow me for more kitchen tips.
Kay
@UncleEbeneezer:
Doctor Fauci LIED TO THEM so they can’t trust The Medical Establishment.
They’re all going down this rabbit hole now. It’s just so embarrassing for “Leftists”. As if the (authoritarian) Putin worship wasn’t bad enough they’re all Medical Conspiracy Theorists now too.
Baud
@satby:
I thought the youngs were all TikTok now.
SiubhanDuinne
@Salty Sam:
Mmmmmm, “Skip and Go Naked” Punch.
Baud
@UncleEbeneezer:
Sounds like a version of cancel culture theory.
Kay
@UncleEbeneezer:
Why are they suppressing it, pray tell? Profit?
I just love this insane belief that anyone in the US gets TOO MUCH medical care. Have any of these people ever tried to get into a specialist? It’s like unlocking a series of doors. There are more gatekeepers than there are physicians.
cain
@Soprano2:
The men won’t remotely understand the reasons other than letting women be promiscuous. Their whole ‘we would be all in God’s grace if it wasn’t for women tempting us!’
But birth control is a boon for so many women not related to sex at all as some have noted here.
Betty Cracker
@RedDirtGirl: I hope your dog’s injuries are minor and that she recovers quickly! Has the out-of-control dogs’ owner said anything that indicates she knows she has to change her behavior to keep other people / pets safe?
Soprano2
@Van Buren: I would put a lock on that cabinet! LOL
Ksmiami
@Kay: I’m in coastal ca rn, 71 is the high.
cain
@Kay: for extra trolling you should play the song ‘at the car wash ‘
😂
cain
@lowtechcyclist:
Maybe it is a weird form of chicken?
Ken
@SiubhanDuinne: The only flaw with your plan is the phrase “bunch of small fruitcakes”. I’d make one large one. That way only one person will re-gift it back to me next year, and I’ll get regular presents from the rest.
Soprano2
@Ken: If it’s soaked in enough of the right booze, they won’t give it back!
Ken
@Soprano2: What else would you do with a fruitcake?
I’ve seen people suggest using them as doorstops, but I’d think that could attract vermin.
Deputinize Eurasia from the Kuriles to St Petersburg
@Van Buren:
I’m going to say cranberry bitters, Amaro and simple syrup, shaken and served straight up with a toasted orange peel in the fashion of a Manhattan.
The Amaro will convey something of flavor to the clear spirits, and it’ll be kind of in the vicinity of Drambuie.
Kay
@cain:
There’s an automatic kiosk at the car wash- he works in the premium area where they dry your car with towels and do “detailing”, whatever. He gets tips – not bad- like 30 bucks a shift in addition to his hourly.
But “old people” call him over to help them operate the automatic dashboard “even though it has voice prompts” :)
rikyrah
@Kay:
Don’t forget that the Ohio GOP is trying to change the rules in the middle of the game with that August vote, trying to change the rules from 50% +1 to 60%.
And, that signatures must come from ALL counties.
Tony Jay
@Kay:
A lot of them are. It’s just such an obvious play, isn’t it? When you’re a cabal of multi-billionaires funding extremist right-wing lunatics on a mission to destroy democracy in a democracy, there’s going to be push-back, especially from the hardcore Left, who have always been the ones fighting the Right and their street-level thugs for generations.
So, why not spend some of that cash creating your own pet ‘Left’ to performatively lash out at genuine Leftists, always go further in demanding more-more-more for ‘the cause’ and just generally make themselves the extremely online arbiters of ‘cutting-edge Lefty fashion for all nu-wave radicals’?
Then, once they’re nicely established, turn up the dial on the ‘all the other Lefties are letting you down’ misinformation and lead a chunk of their audience off down the rabbit holes of populist bullshit that lead to the catacombs of “I don’t agree with everything they say, but these Nazi fucks are the only ones talking sense on the (fill in the blank) issue”.
They won’t take a – lot – with them, but they’ll take some, and all the time they’ll be capering and spitting and showing their arses and generally providing the Right Wing Media with all the nuts it could ever want to pick.
It’s what I’d do. If I was into that kind of thing.
rikyrah
@Kay:
We told folks that they were coming for birth control.
Suzanne
@Soprano2:
This is absolutely true.
I read a comment by a feminist who was fighting the good fight on a libertarian blog…. something like, “What if we don’t need lots of people to lift heavy things and with a willingness to use violence?”. And it’s true. The modern American economy doesn’t have much use for those attributes any longer.
And women are eating dudes’ lunch, even in early ages in school. Whether that’s a genetic or biological difference, or nurtured/culturally taught is beyond my knowledge. There does seem to be a gender (maybe a sex?) gap in conscientiousness. It would not surprise me that, as jobs in developed economies become more complex, conscientiousness becomes more critical to success.
UncleEbeneezer
RedDirtGirl
@Betty Cracker: 11 punctures. They had to put a drainage tube in one because the pocket was so deep. I have to watch it closely for the next few days to see if an infection develops.
the owner says she usually walks her dogs at 3am!
Soprano2
@Ken: The right kind of fruitcake is good. You don’t put that candied fruit in it, you put nuts and other kinds of dried fruit and soak it in booze.
Subsole
@Kay: Well, that and various populations who will be legally regarded as…fractionally human, let’s say
ETA: I would pay 5 grand to watch Tucker Carlson cut sugar cane.
Or even just unload lumber all day. In 105 degree heat.
Hell, I’d pay to watch Joe Rogan do that shit. Heatstroke’s knocked over bigger and tougher than him.
rikyrah
@Kay:
And, they don’t think that women don’t know how birth control affects their bodies and how they live with it.
But, I’m not surprised that they are coming for it.
Soprano2
This was true in my class for the whole time I was in school, from the late ’60’s thru 1979. The top 10 in my class of 30 were nine girls and one boy. Most of the boys thought making good grades meant you were soft and gay, and they wanted nothing to do with it, even if they were smart. It drove the teachers crazy!
Some of the jobs at my workplace still require physical strength and stamina, but there are more and more tools to help people not get hurt doing them, so it’s becoming more practical for women to do the work. I have a co-worker who is the same age I am; he’s done physical work his whole life, he looks a lot older than he is. It’s really true that it’s not the age, it’s the miles you put on a body that count, and hard physical labor puts a lot of unnecessary miles on one’s body.
Suzanne
@cain:
That’s because a horrifying percentage of men literally have no idea how female bodies work.
EA: Flashing back to the dudes commenting about how HRC shouldn’t be president because she would get her period in office.
***headdesk
Chief Oshkosh
@OzarkHillbilly:
So, we have a solution to ridding ourselves of Republicans?…
We’re gonna need a bigger boat…
Subsole
@Van Buren:
When in doubt, coke.
Kay
@rikyrah:
It just never stops with “we should not use birth control, here in the Right/Left weirdo Authoritarian Men Political Party”. I don’t care, at all, if they use birth control or not. I don’t even want to know.
They always go to “and you should not be allowed to either”. No one was making them get abortions. They came barging into our examining rooms anyway, rooting around in our trash looking for “evidence”, Just fucking unbearable busybodies.
So yes, telling their followers lies to get them to stop uising birth control won’t be enough- they’ll have to ban it. Because that’s what they do.
Soprano2
@Subsole: Stephen Colbert did a thing where he offered as much as $50/hr to pick strawberries. He didn’t get any takers for that!
rikyrah
This this this
Paul in KY
@Ken: You seem to have a window into the Trumpian mindset when it comes to keeping money from the rubes (of any nationality).
rikyrah
@OzarkHillbilly:
On the surface, that’s a warm and fuzzy story.
But, this continues the pattern of the animals are sick of our shyt.
They seem to be displaying intelligence to us more and more.
The robots and the animals are going to unite and get rid of all of us.
raven
@CaseyL:
sab
@SiubhanDuinne: We have my grandmother’s aunt’s recipe for that! 30 pounds of dried fruit and a teaspoon of baking soda for leavening
ETA Then pour booze on it every week until Christmas.
Brachiator
@Betty Cracker:
My niece, who is studying public health, says that many of her professors and instructors see politicians in a number of states making plans to go after birth control.
They may be just that dumb.
rikyrah
@RedDirtGirl:
Prayers for Nola …may she fully recover.
Suzanne
@Soprano2:
This is true. In the course of my job, I spend a lot of time on construction sites. I work on big buildings with national and regional contractors, so I don’t know what it’s like with the small little three-truck types….. but there is such a safety culture amongst the bigs because they don’t want to pay out workers comp claims. So there are many more tools and drywall lifts and fall protection and safety devices and gear, and lots of supervision to make sure that the tradespeople use them. I am also seeing more and more women on job sites, too. I’m sure those things are not unrelated.
Paul in KY
@RedDirtGirl: Can’t believe it took 20 mins. IMO, if you jab your thumbs into the eyes of the dog doing the biting, it will let go. Maybe to then bite you, but it will let go.
Paul in KY
@Van Buren: Maybe it will be drinkable…Cheers!
Betty Cracker
@RedDirtGirl: God, that’s awful. Poor baby.
I’m not sure what my next move would be if I were you, aside from definitely taking her up on her offer to pay for the vet care. That is literally the least she can do! My usual impulse is to see if an issue can be resolved between individuals before appealing to authorities.
But that only works if the other person recognizes the seriousness of the problem and is committed to fixing it. If her dogs have attacked other dogs in the past as bystanders reported, it sounds like she’s in denial or just doesn’t care how her reckless behavior affects others.
If it were me, I’d consider having a conversation with her first, during which I’d point out that others told you her dogs had attacked their pets before and had been a dangerous nuisance to people on bikes, etc. Her dogs were off leash when they attacked yours — were they leashed and then got away from her, or was she walking them off leash despite previous incidents?
If the latter, there’s probably no point in discussing it with her. I wish you had better options. Satby’s advice to inquire with animal control might be the best you can do. I’m sorry you’re dealing with this and hope your dog recovers fully and quickly.
rikyrah
@Kay:
Completely. They only come out for large important races. They aren’t concerned about running Green candidates for City Council, or Library Boards.
Nope.
That would be too much like right.
rikyrah
@UncleEbeneezer:
They have never been our friends. Not surprising in the least.
Redshift
@Ken: Yeah, yeah, we all know the fruitcake jokes. Those are about commercial fruitcake, not about homemade boozy fruitcake. They’re as far apart as home baked bread and Wonder bread.
Brachiator
@raven:
This is why I stay away from all Meta products.
Chief Oshkosh
@Kay:
Very similar to Lincoln’s point about the slave states forcing non-slave states to enforce the slave state laws. To paraphrase: It’s not enough that we leave them alone, rather, they demand that we agree with them and obey their laws in opposition to our own.
Kayla Rudbek
Thirteen fucking years and I’m being told to hand in my resignation tomorrow. I’ve called my union representative and I’m going to dispute this in court.
rikyrah
@Kay:
It’s true. That’s what they do. And, I don’t want to hear a phucking thing from the MSM that WE are being ‘ hysterical’ about them. We see them for what they are.
Baud
@Kayla Rudbek:
Whoa. That sucks. Good luck in your fight.
Baud
@Chief Oshkosh:
Exactly.
Jackie
@Redshift: I saw this earlier and wondered how many of these new babies fit “the right kind” criteria?🤔
“A strict abortion law that took effect in Texas in 2021 may have led to nearly 10,000 more births than expected in the last nine months of 2022, according to research published in the journal JAMA,” CNN reports.”
schrodingers_cat
@Kayla Rudbek: Good luck!
Redshift
@rikyrah:
Yeah, they’ve always been assholes. A friend of mine used to work on shows at the local community access cable station when Cenk had a show there. He’d have guests on to interview and then spend the entire show talking, leaving the “guest” to sit on camera doing nothing. She was dumbfounded that he became successful.
Baud
Via reddit, FL continues to enjoy freedom
Baud
@Jackie:
I was wondering about that.
Chief Oshkosh
@Kayla Rudbek: Sorry to hear this. Good luck.
Dorothy A. Winsor
@Brachiator: My guess is they’re going to argue that birth control is really abortion.
Baud
@Redshift:
There’s always funding and a market for hating Dems.
rikyrah
@Kayla Rudbek:
So sorry for your mistreatment.
Chief Oshkosh
@Baud:
Goddamn those shitbirds and all those NRA fucks and the Republicans that have created this environment. Christ, they’re not even good shots. Fucking infantile tyrants.
Subsole
@Soprano2:
Spot on. These people are perpetually furious at life because they missed out on their chance at being a plantation owner.
The thing is though…like, Ben Shapiro ain’t big or strong, and I kind of doubt his ability to operate a pistol without getting his thumb caught in the hammer.
Most of these guys aren’t big, or tough, or strong. Bannon looks like a bag of bleached jello and chunky buttermilk. Man is Great-Value Evola, thinks he’s Macchiavelli. Andrew Tate looks like a butt-plug grew a beard.
They keep reverting to violence and coercion and cute little chickenshit rhetorical debate-me-bro tricks because they don’t know how to earn respect. So, they try to extort or compel it. That’s the root of their obsession with violence.
“If you didn’t carry a whip, dear Baron, why would anyone listen to you?”
OzarkHillbilly
@Van Buren: Ha! Good on him!
Deputinize Eurasia from the Kuriles to St Petersburg
@raven:
Several months ago, my wife deactivated her Facebook profile after she had reached out to a retired coworker. This lady was in her late 60s and had been speaking with another former coworker about getting married soon to a 4 star general, and that she was shopping for cruises. They thought it seemed odd, so my wife friended and checked the lady’s profile, and she was friended by at least four profiles of the same dapper Air Force 4 star, and some of the profiles were arguing with her on her timeline; this was clearly a well worn scam. Concerned, my wife sent her a message, and also reached out to the woman’s emergency contact (her daughter) from company files. The daughter said that she refuses to protect herself and has lost several 10s of thousands of dollars and that they’ve essentially washed their hands of her (there was also some attempted blackmail over nudes that the lady sent).
Very quickly, a couple of the “friend” generals started making friend requests of my wife. Concerned about cloning, she deactivated and monitored. Happily, she caught it in time, because no clones have shown up.
SiubhanDuinne
@Kay:
I have always maintained that any government that can prevent you from having an abortion can just as easily force you to have an abortion.
Tony Jay
@Baud:
Fucksake.
When Baz Luhrmann remade Romeo & Juliet with pistols in place of swords, and he had the Montagues and the Capulets blazing away at each other in the middle of downtown Verona Beach, I never thought I’d be shaking my head at how unrealistic Shakespeare looks when Paris goes around actually threatening to arrest people for that shit.
Obviously old Will didn’t understand Freedom!
scav
@Baud: Well, there’s a pretty apt demonstration of how their “Concern For The Child-Ren!” so often plays out.
laura
@Kayla Rudbek: I’m being told to hand in my resignation
You have no obligation to do their job and limit your options. Your collective bargaining agreement – the mutually agreed upon work rules generally does not include any statutory rights that may be infringed upon, so don’t overlook that as an additional source of worker power.
Elizabelle
@Kayla Rudbek: Good luck to you, Kayla. I hope the union can fight this, with you.
Redshift
@Subsole: Yeah, in a real post-apocalyptic world, these “alpha males” would be the first to get beaten up and their expensive arsenals taken away. But in their minds they’re the hero of their own personal video game, only less realistic because they think they can do it without extra lives.
Betty Cracker
@Kayla Rudbek: Whoa, that sucks! Hoping for the best outcome for you!
Salty Sam
Thanks for confirming what I always knew- you are definitely my kinda girl…
BeautifulPlumage
What was that phrase? “Ensuring the domestic supply of white children”?
Soprano2
@Kay: You know how they’re going to try this – with the old lie that hormonal forms of birth control cause abortions. It’s a total falsehood, but they’ll use that to justify it – “Since we say abortion is illegal, we also have the right to prohibit all these kinds of birth control that we have a religious belief cause abortions”. The 6 clerics on the Supreme Court might buy that argument, too. They want to leave us with nothing but the less effective barrier methods that are inconvenient to use.
Mousebumples
If we can get fair maps… I have faith in Wikler and WisDems.
OzarkHillbilly
As true now as it ever was. I stopped working at 56. The pain just got to be too much.
Tony Jay
@Redshift:
Damned right. Stage 2 of my post-apocalyptic survival plan has always been to hunt down the local supply of Alpha Bro scaredy-cats and eat them.
Plain white chicken meat and mayo. Delicious.
OzarkHillbilly
@Chief Oshkosh: Heh… thanx for that chuckle.
Jay
@Kayla Rudbek:
Here, one resigns out of ones own free will, ( or to avid being fired for cause).
Otherwise, the options are laid off, ( fired with out cause), in which case the employer owes severance, etc and you qualify for EI,
of fired for cause, ( which you can dispute).
One does not submit a “resignation letter” as that absolves the Employer of their legal responsibilities.
I don’t know what’s going on between you and your employer, but my suggestion, ( based on knowing you online for years) is “fuck them”, make them do it the hard way.
Sadly, so much of what we see as “our value”, “our community” is work. It sucks and eats the soul when our contributions are not valued, and we spend more time with our coworkers, for good or for bad, than our families.
Take good mental care of yourself.
Soprano2
@Suzanne: There are still plumbers who dig tiny, dangerous holes rather than do the correct thing with shoring and everything, but that’s becoming rarer, and of course we don’t do that at all – our construction sites are safe. There are tools to take manhole covers off and all kinds of mechanical equipment to use to dig and handle things. It’s still dangerous – we’ve had a nozzle on a flusher come out of a manhole and hit a worker – but they’re doing everything they can to make the job safer.
sdhays
@Brachiator: Yeah, the innovation with Threads is going to be that it comes already “enshittified”. Zuck should have just called his parent company “Shit” instead of “Meta”.
Soprano2
@Kayla Rudbek: Wow that sucks, what is their justification? Do they have any?
Ohio Mom
@Kayla Rudbek: Do I remember correctly that you just finished cancer treatment? Sometimes I think the health insurance company tells the employer, Hey, you got an expensive employee there, can you do something about that? We’d both save a lot of money.
If I remember incorrectly, please ignore.
At any rate, if I were you I might also consult a labor attorney, in addition to your union rep. If nothing else, maybe you can negotiate a good severance package.
OzarkHillbilly
@RedDirtGirl: @Paul in KY: Pick them up by the hind legs. It works with pit bulls, I’d bet it would work with other dogs too.
Salty Sam
I just got back from the 4thJuly weekend at my in-laws’ Minnesota. Got to spend some time with my 14 yr old niece, who is smart as a whip AND drop-dead beautiful- I don’t think I’ve ever met someone that young with such a clear idea of who they are and as strong a sense of self. The stories she told about her male cohort were horrifying- in some cases, she fears for her safety, as these North Woods wannabe he-men are TERRIFIED of her, and constantly threaten to “take her down a peg”.
I tried to help with the comment “There’s no one stupider than teenage boys…”, and she just replied, “Oh, believe me, I know!”
Soprano2
@Jackie: It would be ironic if their effort to force more white women to have babies actually caused more non-white babies to be born. My husband had a friend who was extremely frank about this – he said he was all for abortion because he wanted all the black and brown women to be able to get them. Don’t ask me why hubby was friends with him, he was the only person I ever knew who was openly racist like that and proud of it. He died in 2003 of a heart attack, but if he hadn’t Obama’s election probably would have killed him!
OzarkHillbilly
@Kayla Rudbek: I hope you don’t live an “At will” state. My wife got let go after 30 years and there was nothing she could do.
kindness
I just read in the WaPo that Governor Newsome has come to an agreement with big rig truck manufacturers to only offer electric trucks after 2036 in California (https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-solutions/2023/07/06/diesel-trucks-california-air-pollution/). This coming after Toyota announced last week it had developed solid state batteries that would run a vehicle 750 miles and recharge in 10 minutes is welcome news to us here in California and Mama Earth.
Subsole
@Soprano2: 50 an HOUR???
They get 25 bucks a box. Like everyone else.
piratedan
@Soprano2: it strikes me as being totally bizzarro…
most of these righteous types are complete horndogs in private, speaking from a self-centered, semi-prgamatic, never outgrew their inner teenager point of view, you would think that they would want as many women as possible to be free to have sex and then NOT get pregnant so as to burden them with childcare responsibilities and jeopardize their happy home and political career.
Paul in KY
@Kayla Rudbek: Best of luck to you.
Miss Bianca
@Salty Sam: I can report that the same dynamic exists here in rural CO as well. The girls report that the boys have no filters AT ALL around them, and that they are universally crude and demeaning. Yuck.
Paul in KY
@Tony Jay: I was going to butcher them and trade the meat for something more edible and non-icky.
Paul in KY
@OzarkHillbilly: Good idea. Thank you, sir!
artem1s
@SFAW:
There is a unique challenge in Ohio. The ballot measure initiative method that is being used to codify abortion rights is the same method the GOP used in 2004 to codify protection of marriage language into the Ohio constitution. There is a special election in August to change the rules on voter initiatives so the a minority has less chance to get a measure on the ballot. If the August measure passes, it will be harder to get a voter initiative measure on the ballot (more signatures from more counties). And it will change the passing threshold to 60% of registered voters in a majority of counties instead of a statewide majority.
If the measure passes that means it’s much harder for the measures we like to get on the ballot and pass. But it also means measure we don’t like have to meet those same thresholds. Whether the August measure does or doesn’t pass, given the recent SCOTUS anti-LGBTQ ruling, I expect the GOP to push to put protection of marriage of back in the Ohio Constitution (and make abortion and contraception illegal). And they will also push to have the current extremist SCOTUS to overturn the Obergfell decision that upheld marriage standards across the country (and overturned the very same Ohio Constitution ballot measure passed in 2004 by voter initiative to restricted marriage benefits access). Needless to say, no matter the outcome in August or November, astroturfing efforts by the right will continue and probably escalate. And they will use either outcome to counter whatever normie voter push back their may have been on Dodd to keep Ohio firmly in the GQP’s grasp. The voter initiative is a double edge sword and is never protection from a fascist legislature and or extremist court.
Paul in KY
@Salty Sam: That sounds frightening for the poor girl. I hope she gets a great scholarship to a hipper place.
Paul in KY
@piratedan: For every one of these ‘horndogs’ (who have a chance at non-rape sex) there’s 5 incels that will never have a chance and they want to hurt women.
Elizabelle
@Miss Bianca: and Salty Sam:
Who is raising these terrible young men? Are they picking that behavior up from social media? From the Joe Rogans and shock jocks of the world?
artem1s
@SFAW:
the November initiative will follow the old rules no matter what happens in August.
Soprano2
@OzarkHillbilly: You should see how this guy walks – it hurts me to watch him. I have no idea why he hasn’t retired yet, I think he’s probably eligible for it.
Jay
@Elizabelle:
Yes, the “manoverse”. They feel free to take their “locker room trash” out into public, believe that “negging” will get them the girl.
Morons.
Subsole
@Kayla Rudbek:
That blows. Good luck and give ’em hell!
Tony Jay
@Paul in KY:
I’d like to look them in the eye while making my packed lunches.
It’s a post-apocalyptic scenario. I expect to have major mental issues.
dnfree
@Soprano2: When I was in high school in the early 60s, the “top students” recognition was the top 10 boys and the top 10 girls. If they had just done top 20 students, there would have been too many girls, obviously.
Paul in KY
@Tony Jay: There are many ways to skin the proverbial cat.
Tony Jay
@Paul in KY:
“Clan Chief! He has come! The great enemy of the Furrie Nation is finally here!”
“Did I not tell you? Rejoice! Our foes are in for a proper gelding now!”
Ksmiami
@RedDirtGirl: a Pitbull attacked my dog on his head and he had deep gashes… 7 laser surgeries later he was fine.
Paul in KY
@Tony Jay: Oh mighty Clan Chief, I used a poor choice of words, but I didest include ‘proverbial’, thusesth I was not alluding to an actual crime against our great furry overlords.
I cry for mercy, mercy, mercy!!!