Lady, even if the bag *was* clearly name-tagged, the Secret Service is never giving it back.
Reporter: Can you just say once and for all whether or not the cocaine belonged to the Biden family?
KJP: They were not here on Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday so to ask that question is incredibly irresponsible.. pic.twitter.com/lZJ4mOfZRY
— Acyn (@Acyn) July 7, 2023
(Yeah, like you didn’t have the same thought. Although Barbie Jacket there doesn’t look like a coke user to me… my first thought was that one of the pressroom Kewl Kidz put her up to it, knowing she no doubt has a lifetime history of being pranked this way.)
The reason this is being reported on so thoroughly is because it actually belongs to a member of the White House press corps and they want it back https://t.co/5et3ExMDaI
— Danny Gold (@DGisSERIOUS) July 5, 2023
Genuinely good news — at least a first step:
Maine's governor this week signed the nation's first law to partially decriminalize sex work — after a call from Gloria Steinem.
From the Post’s new Stern fellow – @alexandraheal https://t.co/zf2bEQy7QS
— Carol Leonnig (@CarolLeonnig) July 1, 2023
Been saying for a while that the ultimate problem at the NYT is that it’s run by the Sulzberger kid, & he’s an apolitical soft headed dolt. https://t.co/OAq9e0tPuu
— Dana Houle (@DanaHoule) July 6, 2023
I keep telling y'all, Republicans are imploding actively and all we have to do is keep trying to do good things.
This is why the ratfucker "don't vote Dem" accounts are out *A WHOLE-ASS YEAR BEFORE THE PRIMARIES*.https://t.co/tf7ggzIWsR
— Michael Paulauski (@mike10010100) July 6, 2023
Major Republican donors to the Arizona and Michigan Republican Parties, who have each donated tens of thousands of dollars to the parties over the last six years, have ceased supplying funding because of Republican leaders’ attempts to overturn 2020 election results, their support of losing candidates who tout Trump’s election conspiracy theories and what they consider extreme views on issues like abortion, six benefactors told Reuters. “I question whether the state party has the necessary expertise to spend the money well,” real estate mogul Ron Weiser, one of the Michigan party’s biggest donors and a former chair of the party, told the outlet.
Despite Republicans’ efforts to ramp up support in order to win back the battleground states that could determine whether they regain political power in the 2024 election, Arizona and Michigan’s parties have been bleeding money in recent years, according to the outlet’s review of financial filings and interviews with the donors and three election campaign experts. Arizona’s Republican Party on March 31 had less than $50,000 in cash reserves in its state and federal bank accounts to spend on overhead expenses, compared to the $770,000 it had at the same point four years ago. And as of March 31, the total in the Michigan party’s federal account amounted to $116,000, down from the nearly $867,000 it had two years ago. “They are effectively broke, and I don’t see the clouds parting and the sun coming out on their fundraising abilities,” Jason Roe, the former head of the Michigan GOP, told the outlet…
This is why Dems should be as liberal on immigration as they want.
The right is always going to shriek about foreign hordes “invading” and how the U.S. border with Mexico is a fiction which needs to be actualized as some cross between the Great Wall of China and a WWI trench. https://t.co/mOW4yO8WJq
— Peter Wolf (@peterawolf) July 7, 2023
An update on my query from yesterday’s Morning Open Thread:
‘Vague’ injunction on social media should be stayed, Justice Dept. says https://t.co/o0NKMwbexL
— Elizabeth Kelly (@Lizbeth27Kelly) July 8, 2023
… The government team asked for a stay to be granted by July 10 until the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 5th Circuit rules on the Justice Department’s planned appeal of the injunction, or else that Doughty stay the order for a week to allow time for a faster emergency appeal.
The six-page motion argues that parts of the order contradict each other, such as a prohibition on some officials speaking publicly about false social media posts conflicting with a provision that nothing should stop officials from exercising their own right to free speech.
It also said that the government would suffer irreparable harm while the injunction remained in effect, while the plaintiffs were citing old conduct and would not.
“The potential breadth of the entities and employees covered by the injunction combined with the injunction’s sweeping substantive scope will chill a wide range of lawful government conduct relating to Defendants’ law enforcement responsibilities, obligations to protect the national security, and prerogative to speak on matters of public concern,” the Justice Department wrote.
On Wednesday, The Washington Post reported that the State Department had canceled a regular meeting with Facebook parent Meta to discuss foreign influence campaigns that both sides track. The State Department confirmed the cancellation Thursday.
Baud
Reposted from below.
Baud
This is dumb advice.
It assumes everyone is the country is a pro-immigration lib or a right wing shrieker.
Layer8Problem
How long has the birdsite been deigning to allow people to see tweets and their quotes? It’s something, although I miss the smart-ass replies. And the birdsite and its little Squire of Gothos cosplayer still stink.
Baud
This is consistent with my limited online experience. People are trying to resurrect the 2016 playbook to some degree.
OzarkHillbilly
The next time a reporter asks such an idiotic question, I want to see KJP have a head/podium moment. Then move on without even answering them.
Baud
@OzarkHillbilly:
She should have said “Our working theory is that it was a member of the White House press corps, so we’ll be instituting mandatory drug testing.”
Nukular Biskits
Mornin, y’all!
WTF is the damned idiot reporter in that first tweet?
Baud
@Nukular Biskits:
They want a “White House doesn’t deny…” headline. That’s all.
Nukular Biskits
@Baud:
Maybe I’m missing something here, but I submit most decent, open-minded folks are “pro-immigration”, in terms of not being xenophobic bigots.
If you meant to illustrate the ridiculous “BOTHSIDES!!11!!” extremes, you probably should have said “open borders lib” instead.
Geminid
@Baud: Immigration is a political stressor in Europe. The Dutch government just fell over irreconcilable differences within its coalition over refugee policy. Now there will be snap election and this issue will likely play a large role.
The issue has strengthened the German right-wing party so that it polls almost even with the Social Democrats.
Immigration was a also big issue in Turkiye’s Presidential runoff. Opposition candidate Kemal Kilicdarogle had campaigned as a benign, liberal advocate for a “New Spring.” He made a hard right turn in the runoff though, going after the large nationalist vote by promising to send the country’s 3.5 million Syrian war refugees home ASAP. Turks complain that the Syrians take jobs and commit crime.
The incumbent Erdogan maintained that his country had a moral duty to protect the Syrians from Bashar Assad’s murderous regime, putting him in the unusual position of being more liberal than his opponent.
Nukular Biskits
@Baud:
Asking about the incident is within bounds.
Asking that goddamned stupid question illustrates exactly your point.
ETA: I don’t know why but that really made my blood boil this morning. That was irresponsible, immature and trolling in the guise of “journalamismz”.
Baud
@Nukular Biskits:
Probably somewhere in between pro-immigration and open borders. Not sure what label to apply. But point taken.
Suzanne
@Baud: At a place I worked, one of the guys got one of the firm principals to prank a group of our senior-level colleagues who had gone to CO right after weed got legalized there. One of them actually posted pictures of all of them smoking a bong together. LMAO, ahhhhh, Boomers. So on Monday, an “official” notice went out about drug testing.
Half of the group that went was freaking out. Half of them were like, “Fuck it, worth it“. One of the better pranks ever.
Baud
@Geminid:
Interesting. Turkey does have a lot more refugees as a percentage of their population than the US does, even counting other types of immigrants.
Baud
@Nukular Biskits:
It’s offensive. They know the investigation is ongoing. So a denial would have to be based on personal attestation of innocence. Which the media would then harp on as being naive and unreliable.
eclare
@Layer8Problem:
I haven’t had any problems, but I have an account. I think that is the issue.
rikyrah
Good Morning Everyone 😊😊😊
OzarkHillbilly
From comes this absurdity inherent to our criminal “justice” system:
I got whiplash reading that.
The Thin Black Duke
OT, but the more I struggle with Mastodon, the more I hate what Muskrat did to Twitter. Anywho, I’m [email protected]. (don’t mind me, I’m a Grumpy Old Man arguing with his VCR…)
Another Scott
@Nukular Biskits: Then it worked.
They’re not going to get clicks by asking about Biden completing final destruction of the US chemical weapons stockpile. They’re going to get clicks by having video of Biden or KJ-P getting angry and turning over the lectern and calling them all stupid gits.
“Does the Biden Administration have the temperament to be cool and calm and collected when dealing with matters of life and death when they can’t even handle a simple question from the press? These retired FBI agents at the Cracker Barrel in Wapokoneta aren’t so sure…”
Cheers,
Scott.
Enhanced Voting Techniques
@Baud: I think the tweet’s point is facts don’t matter; the anti-Immigrant (as in “my grandparents came over in steerage in the 1910s to doge the draft in our home country as REAL Americans should”) will scream about how the damn libertards are letting the country is being invaded no matter what is going on.
Baud
@Suzanne: Now I’m not sure how safe I should feel in buildings.
@rikyrah:
Good morning.
Layer8Problem
@eclare: Yup. The past week’s Musk hijinks were login-related, and I never had one. Boy I’d love to hear what the internal water cooler conversations were over there.
Baud
@Enhanced Voting Techniques:
I understand the tweet’s point. I disagree with it. The fact that facts don’t matter to the right doesn’t mean there aren’t voters out there who care about the facts. Dems need to take that into account in settling on policy, whether it’s immigration or something else.
Geminid
@Baud: A lot of Turkiye’s refugee problems result from Bush’s stupid, destructive Iraq war. It left a power vacuum that helped destabilize Syria. Besides bringing 3.5 million refugees from Syria, that instability derailed the peace process with Turkish Kurds that Erdogan initiated in the early years of the last decade.
Erdogan catches a lot of flak for his independent foreign policy. Americans complain that he just won’t do what the U.S. wants, to which he might reply, Well, George Bush never asked us if we wanted the U.S. to blow our neighborhood up.
OzarkHillbilly
If you’d ever met a carpenter, you’d know how to feel.
Ken
@Layer8Problem: I’m sure Musk has removed all the water coolers. It’s not as big a savings as not paying rent for the offices, but every little bit helps.
Kay
WH cocaine story is dumb.
Billion dollar commercial news apparatus and this is the shit they churn out
Layer8Problem
@The Thin Black Duke: Good to see you, I’m @[email protected].
Enhanced Voting Techniques
@Another Scott: Or alternatively
“Our reporter asked President Biden if the CIA has secret information that the late Queen Elizabeth II was nine foot tall shape shifting lizard person from the a planet circling the star Regulus, that she had lived on a diet of live Polish babies she swallowed whole and Biden laughed at the question. Is Biden’s unwillingness to take such a serious topic a sign that Biden has dementia? Read about our discussion with four RJK Jr supporters in a roadside dinner in Iowa.”
Kay
Which police agency is investigating this and why are they all leaking to reporters?
incredibly unprofessional. Lousy, low quality work. I wonder how many of them have sworn fealty to Donald Trump.
Chief Oshkosh
@Baud: I took it as: “Just create and execute on the best policies you can. Do what you think is right and what the country needs. No matter how good that is, the RW will always badmouth you and your work, so ignore them.”
Chief Oshkosh
@Baud:@OzarkHillbilly:
She should have said “Our working theory is that it was a member of the White House press corps, so we’ll be instituting mandatory drug testing.”
You win the intertoobes for the weekend, Baud!
Use your newfound power wisely…
Kay
Embarassing for ProPublica. They relied on the conclusions of Republican staffers on the “lab leak theory”. Now they have to quietly walk back their own story.
At this point, who in their right mind would rely on the work of Republican staffers for anything, but especially anything related to covid?
Mai Naem mobileI
@OzarkHillbilly: since he’s 17 does that mean they’ll identify him when he turns 18 pre-trial or during the trial? I am assuming they’ll identify him if he’s convicted.
Also, they announced the white supremacist Texas wal mart killer got sentenced yesterday. The shooting happened in 2019. It took till 2023 to get a conviction? I am assuming part of reason is because of COVID but 4 years to get a mass killer convicted?
JWR
Bet they asked the “whose is it, then” question in a veiled attempt to draw one particular name into this latest “scandal”.
narya
@The Thin Black Duke: you just got one more follower. :-)
@Layer8Problem: as did you
Dorothy A. Winsor
@Kay: What’s a “benign” view of safety training? Does it mean it’s a good thing the training happened? Or it was good training? Or what? Who wrote this?
narya
With regard to the Rs lack of money–that’s because TIFG is hoovering up all of it with his ongoing grifts. His ongoing legal issues are going to drain money AND attention, and I am not mad about that.
rikyrah
@Geminid:
Those countries don’t have a history of immigration. We do.
The take on immigration in that tweet is all surface
Going to keep on pointing this out
Yes, undergirding the GOP immigration shrieking is their usual racism.
Every GOP candidate is on record as being willing to USE US TROOPS TO GO INTO MEXICO.
The cover is immigration and the Cartels.
The truth is the $700 BILLION DOLLARS OF LITHIUM DEPOSITS IN MEXICO THAT HAVE BEEN NATIONALIZED
OzarkHillbilly
@Mai Naem mobileI: If he is tried as an adult, I assume the trial will be attended by a reporter or 3.
90 life sentences to be served consecutively. But of course that’s not good enough for Texas, they want to kill him. More absurdities.
Nukular Biskits
@Another Scott:
Oh, I don’t disagree with either you or Baud.
It’s just beyond brain-dead stupid for members of the alleged Fourth Estates to play such sophomoric “GOTCHYA!” games. It’s nothing more than trolling dressed up as journalism.
rikyrah
@narya: ICAM
Every $$ the rubes send Dolt45 is money not going to the GOP
JWR
Trevor McFadden strikes again: (From NBC)
As a reminder, he was the first judge to outright acquit a J6 defendant. (From NPR April 7, 2022)
Kay
@Dorothy A. Winsor:
No one wrote it. It’s “By ProPublica” because it’s an embarrassing walkback and no one would put their name on it.
There was nothing wrong with asking about a lab leak. No one “silenced” the lab leak theorists. The Biden Administration investigated it so the idea these dopes were somehow silenced is ludicrous. It’s that they operate in completely bad faith- the lab leak theorists themselves have discredited the theory because they insist it’s some cloak and dagger cover up.
That a respected news org would RELY on GOP staffers for covid information is embarrassing.
Layer8Problem
@narya: And you do too! :-)
Check my follows list for more B-J people, some more obviously named than others. There are tens of us!
Kay
@JWR:
Nine months is a lot for misdemeanor with no priors though. The US is a nutty outlier on sentencing- our sentences are MUCH LONGER than nearly anywhere else. Plus, probation is horrible. It’s nitpicky hoop-jumping and feels futile to most people. The more experienced criminals won’t take probation deals and ask for “straight time” instead so they can just be done with it and get cut loose.
Mike in NC
Pretty sure Fat Bastard’s worthless spawn had a dedicated room in the West Wing where they hung out and snorted nose candy to their heart’s content because their daddy didn’t love them. Where did they get that feeling, we can wonder?
OzarkHillbilly
Yes it is, constantly looking over your shoulder or worrying about getting caught in the most minor of transgressions sucks donkey D.
Brit in Chicago
@Baud: I liked the answer she gave because it enabled me to formulate exactly why some questions are are irresponsible (or worse)—as opposed to the apparently reasonable position “How could just asking a question be a bad thing?”.
The answer I came up with was: It is a question to which you already know the answer, or at least facts you know clearly imply the answer. By asking the question you are suggesting—insinuating the idea—that those facts do not imply the answer, or that they are not facts at all. And that is irresponsible, because you know those things are false but are trying to get the presumably less well-informed people listening to you to take them as serious possibilities. (I assume that members of the WH Press Corps are well aware of location of POTUS & FLOTUS at any given time, but the dopey woman who asked the question might be an exception.)
Ksmiami
@The Thin Black Duke: Eh I think Threads will be the ultimate winner. Takes a little getting used to, but the framework- uh works.
JWR
BREAKING!!1! (From Politico)
;)
montanareddog
@Ksmiami: Can one view a Threads post without having a Threads logon oneself?
Frankensteinbeck
@OzarkHillbilly:
One of the most morally loathsome acts of the Trump administration was when at the end they rushed to kill everyone on death row so Biden couldn’t put the executions on hold like every other president has. They made damn sure to kill the prisoners whose guilt was being legally questioned. It was sick. Murder. There was no political value to it, no practical or ideological reason. The people at the top of the Trump team just wanted to kill.
Cameron
No, no, twasn’t the Bidens; ’twas MAGA left the Qoke.
rikyrah
@JWR:
Nothing but ratfuckers 😡
OzarkHillbilly
@Frankensteinbeck: Somehow or other I had missed that. It surprises me none at all. Exactly what I would expect from people as morally bankrupt as they.
Cameron
@OzarkHillbilly: Maybe they can compromise – execute him after he’s served his first life sentence or something.
CaseyL
@The Thin Black Duke:
I just followed you there :)
You need to curate your feed on Mastodon more thoroughly than on Twitter. I use the Federated and Explore tools to see what the wider community is talking about, and have found a lot of people to follow that way. My feed is pretty extensive at this point! – But it is a more sedate place, which I have grown to appreciate.
Soprano2
@Geminid: Isn’t it funny how no matter the country, it’s always the immigrants who natives believe are committing most of the crimes. Do Turks really believe deporting all the Syrians will make crime disappear? 🙄
BR
@CaseyL:
I follow about 1000 people and my timeline is great and lively. Easy thing is everyone here should follow @[email protected] who posts prolifically and then follow anyone interesting she boosts.
Soprano2
@Nukular Biskits: When they ask a question like that I always wonder what kind of answer they think they’re going to get? Baud is right, all they want is to be able to say “White House spokesperson doesn’t deny cocaine belonged to the president or someone in his family”. As if they would put it where visitors come in. 🙄 🙄🙄
Soprano2
@Nukular Biskits: When they ask a question like that I always wonder what kind of answer they think they’re going to get. Baud is right, all they want is to be able to say “White House spokesperson doesn’t deny cocaine belonged to the president or someone in his family”. As if they would put it where visitors come if it did belong to one of them. 🙄 🙄🙄
Fair Economist
@Ksmiami: If Threads wins, and follows through on it promise to Federate, that will be a big boost to Mastodon because Mastodon will then allow you to read your Threads in chronological order and without ads. The most desirable situation at that point would be to have an account on Mastodon and use Threads as an alternative Federated feed. The main restriction would be the less convenient Mastodon interface.
Which brings up something else: it would be nice to have discovery feeds on Mastodon. Currently certain high-boost accounts serve that purpose, but algorithms would be nice if they were voluntary.
JWR
This is a good explanation of that truly weird video: (From Politico)
Is Casey DeSantis Ron’s Ginni Thomas? Inquiring minds and all that.
narya
@The Thin Black Duke: I’m not completely loving it, but I want nothing to do w a Zuck product, and it does seem that folks are slowing moving to mastodon. It turns out that I don’t actually want all that much from it–what I liked about the bird site is the livetweeting, especially things like J6 trials; we’ll see what emerges as an alternative.
Ken
“The cocaine was found in a box labeled ‘My Secret Documints 18/73 Property of DJT’, along with some classified documents, faked Time ‘Man of the Year’ covers, golf clothing, and a bottle of spray tan. We don’t like to jump to conclusions, but…”
mvr
@JWR:
I was once in a reading group with Cornell West. He’s a nice enough person in person. But this is positively unproductive and not smart politics or protest.
I think it is interesting that for the most part the forces that drove left wing intellectual politics to favor shism and faction, have largely dissipated. Some of that, I think, was the Nader debacle. But another part of it is that mainstream Democrats have moved left as the average D voter has also moved left a bit. (I think we can partly credit Obamacare for that.) Given where we’re starting from, the politically possible good changes are stuff that all even mildly left wing folks should and largely do favor.
Unfortunately Cornell West has not gotten the message. Not that I expect him to pull off many votes in the states that will determine this election.
LiminalOwl
@Baud: How can you say that, when Lara Trump has assured the populace that there was never any illegal drug use in the Trump White House? (Bird site link, sorry.)
CaseyL
@BR: Thanks, just followed her :)
Also, there is a tool – bird.makeup – that allows you to see (but not respond to) people who post on Twitter. I don’t know if anyone can create a bird.makeup for someone they used to follow there, or if the person in question has to do it, but I’ve added (f’rex) Tom Nichols and David Simon to my feed that way.
CaseyL
@mvr: West isn’t interested in the message. He’s a disruptor at best, and by allying with Stein has decided to be a ratfucker.
Anyway
@rikyrah:
Meh. Color me cynical. Rubes money may not go to the GOP but that’s chump change compared to the $$$$ coming in from billionaire sugar daddies to various PACs, R-aligned think tanks, fed socs etc all working furiously to undermine Dem priorities.
BR
@CaseyL: I think after the recent Twitter drama the birdside mirrors got disabled. But twitter’s days seem numbered at this point.
Bugboy
This incident with the bag of cocaine is of a piece with the typical Republican’t MO. Occam’s Razor requires that a Republican’t operative dropped it in the WH intentionally, hoping to get the sour dough mix going in the press. See also: yellow cake uranium, aluminum tubes, buttery mails, and more recently, Hunter Biden’s laptop. Skewed timelines, parallel events and circumstances that might easily be confused by low information voters, and bald-face lying to the press. Because there’s nothing illegal about lying to the press…
JWR
@mvr:
I can see that. Matter of fact, years ago, I could listen to him and not be completely put off by his “my dear brother/sister” routine, but no more! And too bad about the U.S. Green Party. The EU branch could teach our numbskulls a thing or two.
Geminid
Another Scott posted some great video in the Ukraine thread, at #39.
It shows President Zelenskyy taking a dawn boat ride to Snake Island, on the Black Sea, and laying a wreath there to honor its brave defenders and commemorate the 500th day of this war.
It was a gutsy move.
moonbat
Here’s my take on why this cocaine story is so stupid. First off, if anyone in the WH family WERE snorting coke on the regular, then the SS would likely know that. Ergo no building lock down, test this white powder to make sure it isn’t ricin, anthrax, or whatever. And you would never have heard about it, Barbie.
Does anyone have critical thinking skills anymore?
MomSense
Maine also expanded access to “late term” abortion. It was a good week locally.
Layer8Problem
@LiminalOwl: Drat, tried to follow you and it seems to have vanished into the aether.
The Thin Black Duke
Thanks everybody!
sdhays
@Kay: Isn’t the COVID leak story the one that Sam Bankman-Fried “paid” for?
LiminalOwl
@Frankensteinbeck: Thank you. I had missed that, and truly horrendous.
Steeplejack
@montanareddog:
I believe Threads is app-only at this time, so you’d have to have the app installed and also, I presume, create an account. Plus you have to have an Instagram account to create a Threads account.
Renie
The reporter who asked the question,Caitlin Doornbos of the NY Post (surprised?) double-downed on the issue by posting on Twitter that KJP called her irresponsible. 99% of the replies to her tweet bashed her.
Geminid
@Soprano2: The 3.5 million Syrian refugees impose a strain on resources, but Turkiye’s a big country of 85 million people. They could afford to build temporary housing near the border, and I think the UN provides food and medical services.
About 250,000 thousand Syrians have been naturalized and that led to charges that Erdogan was cultivating their votes. And from what I’ve seen on social media, a lot of Turks look down on Arabs, and consider them backwards and troublesome.
But it’s only some Turks who are really agitated about the refugees. Kilicdoroglu’s strident rhetoric on this question did not seem to move the electoral needle, and he lost the runoff by close to the same margin by which he lost the 1st round. It seems like a lot of Turks said, “It’s a problem alright, but Erdogan has a better chance of solving it the right way than anyone else.”
Baud
@MomSense:
👍
What a difference a new governor makes.
dc
@Fair Economist: You can use the “Live feeds” function to find more accounts. Once there you can choose “this server” or “other servers”, or “all”. I have my preferences set to “slow mode” so I have to click to move the feed forward, this slows fast feeds, like these options, down. Also, the “explore” function allows you to see posts, hastags, people and news that are getting traction on the site. Finally, keep an eye out for hashtags to follow in posts on your feed or just search hashtags. For example I follow #NAFO to get some good Ukraine posts.
narya
Since it’s an open thread: Yesterday I listened to Al Franken’s interview with John Mayer (it’s an old episode but recently re-upped in Franken’s thread). For those who haven’t heard it, it’s pretty entertaining, and it also reaffirmed why I don’t quite “count” as a Deadhead, despite having seen them multiple times (including once w/ Jerry in 1980) and in multiple iterations, and despite having a lot of their music/shows (thank you, Deadhead friend). That is, Franken calls out specific versions of specific songs by date/location–something that Deadhead friends, both back in college (late 70s/early 80s) and now, (used to) do as well. Similarly, before the Soldier Field shows (Fare Thee Well), we ran into other Deadheads in a bar, and my friend and them immediately started wondering which songs would be played, what they’d open with, etc. At this point in my life, it amuses me, but, as noted, it also reminds me that I simply do not listen to the Dead, or any other band, that way.
JWR
One more link (Politico):
dc
According to this post on Mastodon (which includes two quoted tweets), anything Meta (FB, Insta, Threads) will help law enforcement against people seeking or getting abortions in states where it’s illegal now. https://mastodon.social/@[email protected]/110672761064084705
eclare
@dc:
Yep. I think The Thin Black Duke posted that late last night. As long as that is Zuck’s position, I will never be on any of his platforms.
Not on FB or Insta. I guess if Twitter goes under, I’ll have to find something productive to do.
mrmoshpotato
It’s Peter Douchecanoe’s coke! – allegedly!
(Make him deny it.)
Jackie
@JWR: 🤞🏻🤞🏻
mrmoshpotato
When?
Another Scott
@narya: You and my J must be long-lost sisters. :-)
She loved them, loved Jerry, saw them at Cornell in the late ’70s and at RFK just before Jerry died.
But she had no time for the “space” improvisation in the shows, no time for the traveling DeadHeads who took up all the parking spaces in the event lots with their trailers and selling stuff, no time for the rude people who throw “don’t harsh my mellow” at her when she calls them out on it, etc., etc.
She loved the music and the dancing. The rest, well, she’s not a fan.
Cheers,
Scott.
trollhattan
@Bugboy: Someone needs to check the WH visitor log for a James O’Keefe.
Anyway
Angela Merkel’s administration took in a lot of Syrian refugees — she stuck with it though the decision was hugely unpopular at the time.
Pisses me off that the decisions leading to the Iraq war aren’t hung around the heads of the Blob and the GQP more … catastrophe is the only word for it. R misdeeds are conveniently memory-holed by the lamestream media.
Citizen Alan
Off topic, but the movers are finally here 2 days late. And I am growing alarmed at how much packing materials they are using for stuff I would otherwise have just thrown in the back of a truck. For some items. I think the packing material costs more than what they’re taping up.
Baud
@rikyrah:
Damn. Not ratphuckers? I hope Cornell West is far from Chicago today, because he doesn’t want to cross paths with rikyrah.
Another Scott
@dc: Another red flag should be that they’re not applying their disinformation rules to Threads.
Another red flag should be that they’re not opening Threads to the EU because they don’t meet the EU data privacy protection rules.
But, they’ll get lots of users because of ooh shiny and network effects. Such is life.
Cheers,
Scott.
Kirk
@OzarkHillbilly: Add to that short notice calls that require leaving the job site, even though keeping a job is part of the requirements. And the interesting conflicts if you have to go to the emergency room – reports, drug controls, rtc
narya
@Another Scott: Okay, the other thing I do not tolerate (e.g., when we’re listening to a show while on a long road trip) is caterwauling, particularly Pigpen’s caterwauling. Drums/space can vary–I didn’t mind it at Fare Thee Well–but can also get the “skip” treatment. I’ve seen Mickey several times, and I think his stuff can be quite fascinating (even w/o any substance ingestion), so I have more tolerance for that than for caterwauling
ETA: I have some Cornell shows in my collection (from my friend) I think . . .
Citizen Alan
@mrmoshpotato: I dunno, the Harding Administration, maybe?
Cheryl from Maryland
@Layer8Problem: Great ST:TOS reference.
Ken
They had some nice things to say about socialism in the 1930s.
I’m sorry, I’ve been informed that was National socialism….
trollhattan
Hardy har, more Republican “humor.”
Conflicted on whether he’s the worst or second-worst Kennedy.
eclare
@Another Scott:
It has always surprised me that Andy Cohen is a huge fan. It does not compute that the guy who started all of the Real Housewives franchises, who is very high energy, is a Deadhead.
mrmoshpotato
@Baud:
Some of them are ass blasters.
The Ballad of Bert Gummar
Baud
@trollhattan:
Since his record is worse, I’m curious about what he gives his staff.
eclare
@Citizen Alan:
Just picture yourself not in Mississippi.
eclare
@Baud:
Inquiring minds want to know…
Nukular Biskits
@eclare:
I live in MS … and I picture that all the time.
;>)
MomSense
@Baud:
Yes!! By the way I highly recommend the book In Other Words, Leadership by Shannon Mullen. It’s the correspondence between our governor and a woman in Farmington who wrote to her for a year during the pandemic. The governor also opened up her private journals and it’s an amazing book.
ETA autocorrect changed the authors name
Another Scott
@mrmoshpotato: Oh man!
Cheers,
Scott.
eclare
@Nukular Biskits:
I’m in TN, but at least I’m in the blue oasis of Memphis.
Ruckus
@The Thin Black Duke:
I opened accounts at spoutable and mastodon to “replace” my twit account and really I now check all 3 of them about maybe 5 min a week. Total. Sometimes. I used to be on twit a lot. Somehow I’ve managed not to really miss spending time on any of them. Strange isn’t it, that they really don’t mean as much to us as we think.
Nukular Biskits
@eclare:
As you’ve probably seen me mention, I’m here on the MS Gulf Coast.
With a current heat index of 102 bazillion degrees outside.
Bill Arnold
@Kay:
Re “lab leak theory” (which you quoted, so assuming you know the following):
A reminder to all that the alliterative term “lab leak” was not used prior to the politicization of speculation about the origins of SARS-CoV-2.
The term prior to the COVID-19 emergence, easily confirmed with scholar.google.com, was “lab escape”. No alliteration.
The word “theory” is also abused by these propagandists.
Nukular Biskits
@Ruckus:
I’m on Twitter more frequently than I should be, but it’s really the only platform (other than BookFace) that allows immediate feedback to my elected officials (US Rep & Senators, governor, etc.)
Plus, I follow a couple of state media outlets that do pretty damn good journalism:
MS Free Press
MS Today
To get news and analysis that I can’t get from the corporate-owned local mullet wrapper, The Sun Herald.
Geminid
@Anyway: Part of the problem is that Americans are not very aware of what goes on overseas. We think of that war as ending about 2010, but in a real sense it still goes on in that region.
Kathleen
@Nukular Biskits: She wouldn’t have pulled that stunt if Press Sec were white.
Citizen Alan
@eclare: I know, I know. But I just watched a kid box, then duct tape, then shrink wrap, then tape again a piece of furniture I got from a thrift store for 30 bucks. Every time I hear the sound of duct tape being pulled, I hear a cash register ringing in my head.
MomSense
@Bill Arnold:
The misuse of the word theory is a pet peeve of mine.
Nukular Biskits
And, with that brief fly-by, “once more unto the breach” I go (outside).
eclare
@Nukular Biskits:
Only going up to 89 today, not bad. But yes, I am familiar with air you can scoop with your hand.
I thought you were on the coast. I’ve been to Gulfport, once for work and once as a stopover on the way to NOLA.
Nukular Biskits
@Kathleen:
I can’t say as I disagree.
Nukular Biskits
@eclare:
Been a Mississippian nearly all my almost 60 years.
Here on the coast since ’87.
eclare
@Citizen Alan:
Weird. But better than them not being careful.
Bill Arnold
@Mike in NC:
It’s been widely reported for many years that daddy, D.J. Trump (senior), has long abused amphetamines, specifically “equal parts racemic amphetamine and dextroamphetamine“.
CaseyL
@Citizen Alan: Some of the extra-care, extra-wrapping is indeed padding the bill, but I suspect most of it is they don’t want to be sued for damaging the goods in transit.
I also suspect that you’re extra antsy because Today is the Day you Get Out of That Hellhole. (And I’m very much looking forward to hearing you’ve arrived at your new place!)
Ruckus
@Mai Naem mobileI:
It always takes a lot longer than one might imagine. There are most often a lot of pieces to put together to get everything gathered up and tie all the pieces together, and it’s not like all the bits and pieces of government that it takes to do that have nothing to do. It’s not like a jury has to be called up. It’s a process and all the T’s have to be crossed and I’s dotted. And really, you want it to take time, to get it right. And then a fair amount of the time the person will accept a plea at the last moment. I’ve been called for jury duty, showed up for several days waiting and then at the last minute, after jury selection, after all of us spending our time, the court’s time, lawyer’s time, etc, etc the person pleas out to avoid the trial and a possible worse outcome. And it starts all over for the next case. Now possibly it’s because I live in a county with a population of more than 40 of the states but it is not a fast process, nor should it be.
mrmoshpotato
@Ken: Hahaha! Yeah. Fuck ’em!
Citizen Alan
@CaseyL: well, my furniture gets out at least. My flight doesn’t leave until next Friday.
Oh, and it just started raining. After 2 days of sunny weather when the movers were supposed to be here.
Bill Arnold
@CaseyL:
Yes. He should be treated as such. Those who help Republicans get elected are Republicans, or worse.
MomSense
This cocaine thing is a bunch of bullshit. The media love stories like this because it’s accessible and interesting to low information consumers of newsertainment.
it is pathetic how fucking inconsequential the issues the press and some politicians spend their time discussing.
Meanwhile this record heat we are experiencing this summer on planet earth is probably the coolest summer of the rest of our lives.
MinuteMan
@Chief Oshkosh:
… and body cavity searches.
mvr
@CaseyL: Right. He’s not. What is interesting is that people who play this role on the left are now more fringe than they used to be. (I’m not talking about their views – I mean with respect to how seriously actual lefty voters and activists will take them.)
cain
@The Thin Black Duke: followed!
Kathleen
@Kay: E Tu, Pro Publica?
Old Dan and Little Ann
Are there not cameras recording every second in the White House? A few of the mutants I know on the book of faces haven’t had much to troll about recently. This cocaine story got them back together for a nice circle jerk.
Sure Lurkalot
@Nukular Biskits:
This year is my 50th year living in Colorado. Part of me longs to live somewhere else (not really in the US but I’m pretty much stuck here)
What state other than your own would you move to, given the way they are now, in terms of politics, climate and economics? Coasts are too expensive and precarious, upper Midwest is too cold, New Mexico, too warm. Argh.
Kent
Agreed.
What it means is that the Biden Administration should do the RIGHT thing not anything. Since there will be an invented political shitstorm no matter what.
mrmoshpotato
@Another Scott: It’s a masterpiece. :)
cain
@Geminid: Truth. a lot of those refugees around the world is the consequence of bad foreign, short sighted foreign policy from a number of country.
In this way, the Chinese is much more subtle than the stupid ham fisted policies that GOP Presidents have done. The shit going on in the Latin world is directly because of bad foreign policy.
We need about 3-4 Democratic presidential terms to unfuck everything.
Don’t want an influx of refugees – have better foreign policy that has actual long term policy. This whole bullshit started with Reagan/Nixon.
MomSense
@MomSense:
Case in point Cruz and Blackburn are all worked up over the Barbie movie. Something about a line she draws with pink crayon is some kind of Chinese map conspiracy.
cain
@Kay:
It fits well with their “both sides!” story line – the press loves stories that poke holes into a non-existent story about virtuous Democrats doing bad things.
mrmoshpotato
@Citizen Alan: It’s gonna take longer to unpack than to decide where everything goes in your new place. 😁
Juju
@Citizen Alan: Which house did you choose?
Kathleen
@moonbat: Media are not paid for “critical thinking’ or “skills”.
mrmoshpotato
@MomSense:
🍆🖐️💦
trollhattan
@MomSense: I remember when Gerald and Betty Ford’s kids acted like kids and that upset a lot of folks. IIRC they even smoked the Devil Weed in the White House, and lord know what else kids tend to do.
Geminid
@Citizen Alan: Professional packers can be valuable. I worked on a couple of my friend Chris’s moving jobs and the packers were neat to watch.
Sure Lurkalot
@MomSense:
Somewhere along the line we decided to push the purpose of education as a path to jobs and specifically not for its own sake. I think that’s contributed to a general lack of intellectual vigor and that void has been backfilled with propagating incurious rumors and clickbait. Also, we glorified a variety of tech bros to be our overlords and come to find out they really are no friends to democracy.
MomSense
@Sure Lurkalot:
We worship money in our culture. I also think as Reagan’s letthemeatcakeonomics progressed and the average person’s financial situation became more precarious, people wanted to scapegoat and believe that if something catastrophic happened to someone it was because they did something wrong. Poor shaming really went into overdrive. I don’t know if you used to hear this but often in a news article or charity bulletin/fundraiser for a family that needed assistance because of cancer or a fire or something, you would often find the through no fault of their own language. I remember hearing people say about financial fallout from illness that they had done everything right and it still happened to them.
The prosperity gospel may also be a factor. The flip side to god wants you to be rich is that if you are poor you must have pissed off god somehow.
Layer8Problem
@Cheryl from Maryland: Thank yew!
Citizen Alan
@Sure Lurkalot: I am looking forward to Fresno, but I am also sad that I didn’t get the job in Newark that would have let me live in NYC. My time in Queens was the best 9 months of my life
Citizen Alan
@Juju: no house yet. A 2 BR apartment for the first year at least. I am probably taking too much furniture for the space, but I couldn’t bear the thought of letting my sister sell my mother’s Mid-century American furniture at a yard sale.
Another Scott
Meanwhile, a kinda helpful PSA:
(via https://mastodon.social/@delong )
Cheers,
Scott.
NotMax
Decluttering pays off.
Citizen Alan
@Geminid: I wouldn’t really mind except that they are now telling me that packing materials are not included in the total price, and they are using a lot of packing materials. Makes me wonder what the “estimate” was for. The thought of dropping an extra grand for cardboard boxes is triggering my skin flint.
EmbraceYourInnerCrone
@MomSense: What’s funny is that according to some studies, the best predictor of future success is…being born wealthy. Wealth not education is the best predictor of future success which makes sense when you realize that having access to all those networks of wealthy, influential people gives those born into money a leg up in almost any career they decide to pursue. Look at Elizabeth Holmes, before she blew away her chances by being a con-artist. Her dad was a VP at Enron, she mom was a congressional committee staffer. She blew off Stanford at 19, in her sophomore year, and convinced her parents to give her the money they had saved for her college, so she could start her own company.
MomSense
@EmbraceYourInnerCrone:
It’s also a real struggle to be able to afford/attend a four year college or university without adequate financial assistance. If your family does not have enough money to support you through college it is very difficult to finish or to finish in four years.
Cheryl from Maryland
@Citizen Alan: In Cali, you should find some great dealers and/or auction houses for that furniture. Just resign yourself to the fact that you probably get 1/4 of what the piece finally sells for, which is still better than a yard sale. And if it doesn’t work out, there’s donating to Habitat for Humanity’s ReStore stores, which gives me peace of mind that an upstanding charity is handling the furniture. I had to clean out my mother-in-law’s apartment fast — Habitat came, took everything away that I couldn’t deal with and sold/placed it for me.
trollhattan
@Citizen Alan: Renting to begin is prudent, as nobody can know a city until they live there.
I probably mentioned also parsing the flood maps before choosing an area in which to buy. The San Joaquin Valley is quite floodprone, especially along the SJ River. Buying outside the 100-year zone eliminates mandatory flood insurance dictated by the mortgage holder, and also makes that optional flood insurance quite a bit more affordable.
Citizen Alan
@Cheryl from Maryland:
Oh, no fears on that. I have refurbished 2/3of it and will do the rest in Fresno. When I die, I expect to leave behind a house full of 75 yo furniture in tip top shape.
scav
@NotMax: Careful decluttering mind — unless it was a very observant passerby picking up stuff on an unknowing British family’s kerb.
Soprano2
@Mai Naem mobileI: Here there was a murder case from 2016 tried the first week of June. It took 7 years, partly due to Covid but also the defendant has mental problems. TV shows make us think these things happen quickly when they don’t.
JMG
@Kay: The Secret Service is conducting the investigation into the cocaine at the White House. The leak that no culprit is likely to ever be found leads me to believe that one of its own agents is the likeliest suspect.
Sister Golden Bear
6th Circuit Appeals Court reinstates TN’s anti-trans law prohibiting doctors from providing medical care such as puberty-blockers and gender affirming surgery for transgender minors can, citing Dobbs.
More details from Erin in the Morning:
And it won’t be just trans rights on the chopping block.
mvr
@JMG: So a Trumper.
Nukular Biskits
@Sure Lurkalot:
Good question. My business travel has taken me mostly to Southern CA and up/down east coast and HI. I love the South … but a large part of it (or, more correctly, the people) refuse to move beyond the 1850s.
Even though the cost of living is high, I think I would prefer the San Diego area. In an hour, you can go from the beaches, to the mountains, to the deserts.
Geminid
@Citizen Alan: Well, that was tricky. I can see why you’d be chafed.
Origuy
Non-English speakers on Threads having trouble with the name of the app. The TH sound is not in many languages, particularly Romance languages.
MomSense
@Sister Golden Bear:
GD MOTHERFUCKERS! I feel like I keep asking if there is anything we can do when the situation is at crisis and it is definitely too little too late. Still I want to know if there is anything we can do to help the people affected in TN.
There is an organization in TN called Southern Equality. Any TN jackals know if this is a good organization to support?
https://southernequality.org/tnresources/
different-church-lady
@Another Scott: “Least worst.” Win.
Captain C
@Baud:
“…but only for cocaine. If y’all were stoned, or tripping, your reporting would be better.”
patrick II
What caused the search in the first place? Were they looking specifically for cocaine? Was there a tip? Was it anonymous? Did it come from Roger Stone’s phone number?
trollhattan
California seems to be creeping towards Florida status WRT homeowners insurance.
Friends in the Sierra foothills had their fire insurance dropped and the replacement plan is a whopping $7k/yr. In-laws also in the Sierra foothills pay $1200. Per month.
Captain C
@JWR:
Better a big howling brawl at their convention (in full view of a thousand TikTok and YouTube accounts) than at the DNC.
trollhattan
@Captain C: Finally, an answer to, “What if they threw a convention and nobody noticed?”
Greens have as much traction in the States as a car on ice with Teflon tires.
Jay
One of the Jackal’s last night said they had a mouse problem, and the mice were avoiding the traps.
#1. Set the traps along their “runways”, mice stick close to walls when moving around.
#2. Bait the traps, live or kill, peanut butter seems to work best, but don’t set them. Live traps are trickier, as they rely on doors, but the door can be propped open, so it doesn’t close.
#3. once the mice get used to a free meal with no consequences, 4 to 5 days, set the traps.
Hopefully, they see this.
LiminalOwl
@Layer8Problem: That’s odd, I can still see it. User @Acyn linked to it—can you see their feed?
lowtechcyclist
@MomSense:
I hope someone at the DNC is putting together a commercial of all the silly stuff like this that Rethugs get worked up over.
lowtechcyclist
@Sister Golden Bear:
They’re sure making up a lot of new tests and doctrines to help them abolish modernity.
Jay
@lowtechcyclist:
MomSense
@lowtechcyclist:
Seriously. Disney Barbie Bud Light OH MY
(to the tune of lions tigers bears oh my)
Dorothy A. Winsor
@lowtechcyclist: A video in which they show stuff like the Barbie lunacy and Montana banning TikTok to young voters and have them react. Post it everywhere on social media, including TikTok.
scav
@Jay: No wonder the GOP can’t comprehend it. The mere concept of moving from make believe to reality is anathema to them.
zhena gogolia
I’m really feeling the loss of Twitter when bj has the same post up all day long
BruceFromOhio
Emphasis mine, that once again some asshole move by an empowered fascist has a visible chilling effect, stay or no.
Dorothy A. Winsor
@zhena gogolia: Especially if the post is about twitte
ETA: I’m finding TikTok addictive. When I first looked at it, I hated every single thing it suggested. Then I search for booktok. Also Fowlerville Library. Also, Ted Lasso. And TimrBlackett.
zhena gogolia
@Dorothy A. Winsor: right!
scav
@zhena gogolia: Weekends are generally slow. If people had been chatty, we’d already have derailed and TBogged any post available to us.
zhena gogolia
@Dorothy A. Winsor: I don’t want to sign up for anything. I was addicted to those YouTube shorts, but now all I seem to get are shouting Russian men. Or shouting Ukrainian men.
Soprano2
@patrick II: I would assume they look through those cubbies every day to make sure nothing is left there.
Another Scott
@patrick II:
As usual, the first reports were a garbled mess. It’s still early in the investigation, and the reported details may still be wrong.
GovExec.com:
I haven’t found a map indicating exactly where this “West Executive Entrance” is. There is a “West Executive Avenue”, which runs N/S between the West Wing and the Eisenhower Executive Office Building, so presumably it’s on or around there. IOW, it’s inside the White House complex, and it’s a path that government employees, people with non-ceremonial business, etc., take – it’s not where family and tourists are going to be milling around, I don’t think.
Presumably we’ll find out more eventually.
HTH!
Cheers,
Scott.
rikyrah
This entire thread😂😂😂😂
Miss Aja (@brat2381) tweeted at 8:17 AM on Thu, Jul 06, 2023:
💀😭😂This is my favorite part of FAFO. Baaaaaby…Black Women tried to tell these women to stop voting against themselves.🙌🏾
‘This is a death sentence for me’: Florida Republican women say they will switch parties after DeSantis approves alimony law https://t.co/pNmRlhUZLZ
(https://twitter.com/brat2381/status/1676943362207940608?s=02)
different-church-lady
@Another Scott:
“A white powder reported to be cocaine has turned out to be anthrax. We apologize for the error.”
different-church-lady
@zhena gogolia: Once the DTs wear off you’ll feel better for it.
Baud
@different-church-lady:
“Can you just say once and for all whether or not the anthrax belonged to the Biden family?”
Another Scott
Meanwhile, for those worried about a recession… CalculatedRiskBlog.com:
IOW, no sign of a recession yet.
Cheers,
Scott.
mrmoshpotato
@EmbraceYourInnerCrone:
Well don’t these two things stand out! 😁
different-church-lady
@mrmoshpotato: Tree. Fruit. Proximity. All that all that.
piratedan
@The Thin Black Duke: found you, I’m [email protected]
Sister Golden Bear
@lowtechcyclist: They want to go back to the ‘50s — the 1750s.
Kent
@trollhattan: Is it just the high fire hazard areas where CA insurance is hard to get? Or the entire state? If you live in some ordinary city not in a fire zone are you that affected?
Eunicecycle
@patrick II: I read that the areas are searched every day. That would make sense in areas the public is allowed.
MomSense
@rikyrah:
They voted with their racism. Fuckem
Another Scott
@different-church-lady: @Baud:
[ snort! ]
Made me look… UNODC.org (48 page .pdf):
I mean, it kinda doesn’t pass the smell test, does it? Junky government employee is going to one of the most secure places in the world, with cameras and law enforcement everywhere, and they are spilling their cocaine in a cubby where they’re stashing their stuff? And nobody saw it happen?
And cameras can’t identify who it was??
Stranger things have happened, I guess, but still…
We’ll find out eventually, I guess. But beware of narratives constructed from what “everyone knows” when there’s nothing official reported.
My $0.02.
Cheers,
Scott.
Jay
https://thetyee.ca/News/2023/07/07/Harder-Fish-Sea-Breathe/
Jackie
@Another Scott: No fear! The House republicans are on it!
“House Oversight Committee Chairman James Comer, R-Ky., is calling on the head of the U.S. Secret Service to give Congress more information about the bag of cocaine found inside the White House in recent days.”
https://wfin.com/fox-political-news/house-republicans-open-investigation-into-cocaine-found-in-the-white-house-2/
Another Scott
@Jackie: “Bag of Cocaine!”
[ snort! ]
Wait, that doesn’t sound right. I meant:
[ HaHa! ]
It’ll be a dozen kilo bricks wrapped up in banana leaves next.
(groucho-roll-eyes.gif0
Cheers,
Scott.
Jinchi
@Jackie: The Republican investigation will focus exclusively on the idea that it was Hunter’s personal stash.
mrmoshpotato
@Jay: Have you heard about cornmeal (or cornbread mix (same thing?)) and baking soda?
Something popped up in my YouTube feed about it. Supposedly, mice can’t burp or fart, so I guess it causes me internal distress leading to death.
MomSense
@Jay:
It’s fine. FINE! Everything is FINE!
Jackie
@Jinchi: Of course! Although since the SS seem to think their investigation will be completed early next week, there’s speculation it belonged to one of them 🤔
mrmoshpotato
@zhena gogolia: Get some (van) camping videos in your YouTube history. :)
vancamp402
mrmoshpotato
@piratedan: Yarr, you lucky matey! Yarr!
Jackie
Anybody else getting a chuckle out of MTG’s apparent ghosting of the HFC?
“Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA) has not responded to calls by top members of the House Freedom Caucus aimed at notifying her that she has been ousted from the influential conservative group,” Axios reports.
😂🤭😁
mrmoshpotato
@MomSense:
And their fascism.
Fuckem
Subsole
@zhena gogolia:
Yeah.
If nothing else, seeing just how deeply embedded social media has become in my daily routine has been…disturbingly illuminating.
I may never go back, frankly.
mrmoshpotato
@Jackie: “Lalala! My anti-Semitic Nazi trash ass can’t hear you!”
Jay
@mrmoshpotato:
I don’t like poisons, even natural ones for rodents.
A snap trap kills quickly and you have the body. A live trap, ( if you monitor them carefully), allows their release in a natural environment.
None of the poisons, kill quickly, and quite often, the rodent finds a safe place to die, like under the fridge, in your walls, attic.
When I worked in commercial bakeries, they started with poison traps, I got them to switch to live traps and a regular trap patrol, after over 2 dozen rats and mice were found inside food equipment and ingredient storage areas.
Using live traps and have someone check them every shift, was a lot cheaper that having to sterilize a dozen pieces of equipment and go through 50 pallets of flours, grains and other ingredients, looking for penetrations and bodies, and throwing out the contaminated supplies.
With loading doors and access doors having to be open at times, we couldn’t keep them out, but we could relocate them to the cut and various wild parks they come from.
Subsole
@rikyrah:
If we didn’t all have to suffer along with them, it would be grimly amusing watching these people discover that their Hwiteness(tm) is always – ALWAYS – provisional.
I cannot imagine how Ginni and Tommy are gonna react when Loving gets repealed…
Subsole
@Sister Golden Bear:
B.C.
trollhattan
@Kent: IIUC (am unsophisticated when it comes to how the industry functions) it’s driven in part by the megafires, and other weather extremes, in part by the new housing push into rural–fireprone–areas, and the much higher prices for repairing damaged homes.
The Kropenhagen Interpretation
Critical thinking leads to reason which leads to calm which leads to fewer clicks and less money.
Even if a reporter has critical thinking skills, they are generally discouraged from applying them in political reporting.
The Kropenhagen Interpretation
@Subsole: Ginny and Clarence will have no problem because as any faux conservative will happily remind you, whether the point is relevant or not, these issues are being remanded back to the states.
The Thomas marriage will be as safe as their personal relationship dictates.
The Kropenhagen Interpretation
I will expect a full accounting.
Citizen Alan
@Sister Golden Bear:
I said the day Dobbs was handed down that Brown v Board of Ed would be on the chopping block before they were done. I absolutely believe there are 5+ votes to bring back separate but equal. And Thomas will write the opinion.
Ruckus
@Eunicecycle:
It makes sense to do this every day no matter where it is. If you are trying to keep an area safe and it isn’t a locked area with absolute knowledge that it has stayed locked, you have to check every day. IOW it has to locked and alarmed.
Ruckus
@Another Scott:
what “everyone knows”
That is an extremely short list and might not even include “Stop breathing over 2 minutes and you are dead.”
The Kropenhagen Interpretation
Everyone knows that list is actually very long and comprised of anything the speaker wants to assert without proof.
El Muneco
@Bill Arnold: the US Green Party’s only taks is making sure the Democrats don’t win Presidential elections.
They don’t run local candidates. They don’t run downballot candidates. They don’t offer coalition against the fascists.
All they do is steal Presidential votes from leftists who aren’t paying attention. In 2016 it was – along with all the other things that happened – one of the sufficient causes of Clinton losing.
El Muneco
@Citizen Alan: the joke is that Thomas wants to divorce Ginny but his church won’t let him. So he’s going to kill Loving and say to her “Sorry, honey – my hands are tied, it’s the law now”
Layer8Problem
@LiminalOwl: I see Acyn, at least @[email protected] anyway. I thought I had accepted your follow request here. When I look at your profile on vmst.id I see my follow is pending, so you may have to accept my follow request on your side. Either that or vmst.id and mastodon.online have mutual communication issues.