Update: originally posted on July 13 at 13:36. Reposting tonight for the match. The post will still be available in the sidebar.
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Victor Matheson
I am headed to Australia next week, so I will be at the Columbia/S. Korea match. Not expecting much from that one, but Australia/Canada the next week should be fun.
Go USA. I figure they have as good a shot as anyone despite missing a couple of players due to injury. But I wouldn’t bet on the US against the field.
HumboldtBlue
It all starts at midnight PST!
HumboldtBlue
If you need a primer for the upcoming matches ESPN has a good roundup.
MobiusKlein
@HumboldtBlue:
Hooray for West Coast timezones
HumboldtBlue
@MobiusKlein:
Indeed.
WaterGirl
Remember, if you comment in these posts, it will show up in recent comments. So even though they aren’t on the front page anymore, you can still have conversations.
Annie
Really happy for New Zealand! I want the U.S. to win but would love it if one of the underdogs made a good run.
HumboldtBlue
@Annie:
It’s a pretty wide open tournament. Germany, England, France and Japan all have legitimate shots at the cup and considering we’re off to a banger of a start with two entertaining games from the hosts, it should be a helluva ride.
HumboldtBlue
The Canucks v the Super Eagles!
This should be fun.
HumboldtBlue
Canada dominates the first 20 minutes, but it’s the Super Falcons (not Eagles as I typed earlier) who have the first dangerous shot on goal. Good action, great pace.
HumboldtBlue
And all of a sudden, Nigeria responds with 10 good minutes of pressure in the Canada end.
HumboldtBlue
That’s a penalty.
And yes, it appears I am here by myself, that’s ok, I don’t need you guys, I don’t need anyone, I’m just here dancing on my own.
What a huge save!!!!!
And what a weakly taken penalty. That could be huge.
HumboldtBlue
That is not a handball.
HumboldtBlue
Canada threw away three points. Nigeria had their chances as well. That was a good match.
HumboldtBlue
OK, game two, and you other cup watchers better show up or someone is gonna report me as the guy mumbling to himself acting weird.
HumboldtBlue
Philippines robbed with a terrible penalty call.
The Swiss did come into form, they were clearly pressing the Philippines and their No. 9 missed a cross served up on a plate.
HumboldtBlue
Swiss are too big, too strong. Philippines went for the early heavy pressure and rush to snag a goal and almost got one.
But the holey cheeses wore them down.
HumboldtBlue
Spain are too fast, too skilled, too technical and too much for Costa Rica.
It’s 3-0 at half, and it could be worse, the game has been played, not only in Costa Rica’s half, within five yards of their 18-yard box.
Spain are fun to watch but sweet mother of faking it, they dive more than Greg Louganis.
scribbler
@HumboldtBlue: Just want to say good on you for keeping the comments thread running all on your own. You’re a great play by play man. Keep it going!
HumboldtBlue
@scribbler:
Ain’t nobody else doing it, but that’s OK, I’m fine, here, alone… ahem.
Whole gang of late nighters/early risers (Betty Cracker will catch you at the crack of dawn, just sayin’) are out there trying to pretend a World Cup isn’t on the line.
The US plays today, so we’ll soon see some hot takes from this august commentariat.
I will say, Spain looked good.
Baud
Go USA!!!
🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲
HumboldtBlue
OK, US v Vietnam (poor Vietnam, they’re gonna struggle mightily in this game and in this group). Get some goals and a lead, and then close the game out and get out with three points and no injuries.
What the hell is up with those jackets? They look like they were designed by Tesla.
WaterGirl
It just occurred to me that all I have to do is change the published time and the soccer thread can show up on the front page. Maybe that will get you some more company!
Jackie
@HumboldtBlue: You can be our very own Jackals play-by-play sportscaster! And color commentator 😁🥰
I have a hard time posting and watching in real time.
Jackie
@Baud:
USA! USA! USA! 🇺🇸🇺🇸
Baud
C’mon. Where’s the red flag?
Alison Rose
Following via the Google score box and Twitter. LET’S GO LADIES!
David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch
This is the toughest match up for the US, Vietnam is really tricky and undefeated (clip)
Baud
Looks like this is going to be an ugly game.
HumboldtBlue
@WaterGirl:
I was gonna email you and ask for an open soccer thread at like 7 pm eastern time. We take it from there.
@Baud:
Lol, it was definitely a foul, and it went uncalled, but it wasn’t a red card.
@Jackie:
Someone has to do it!
HumboldtBlue
GOOOOOOOAAAAAAALLLLLLLL
Baud
GOOOOOOOAAAAALLLLLLL!!!!
ETA: lol. GMTA
Scout211
@Alison Rose: It’s live and free on the Fox Sports app on iOS. And google play, too, probably.
Jackie
GOOOOOOAAAAAALLL!!
🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Baud
@Scout211:
Or any local Fox station.
HumboldtBlue
@Alison Rose:
I can’t believe I can’t find you a stream.
Try this
That Vietnam midfield is being overrun.
Scout211
@Baud: Yes, that’s how I’m watching but not everyone has local channels if they only stream.
eclare
Yay USA!
After being wo power since 4:30 am on Wed, it came back this afternoon. Happy to be able to watch on a big screen. Watching soccer on a phone is not ideal.
And yeah, A/C is good too.
Alison Rose
@HumboldtBlue: No soccer at that link.
@Baud: I don’t have cable.
Baud
@Alison Rose:
You don’t have a TV with an antenna?
Scout211
@Alison Rose: Can you get the Fox Sports app on your device?
Dorothy A. Winsor
@eclare: That’s a long time to be without power. Glad it’s back.
HumboldtBlue
@Alison Rose:
Here ya go
Alison Rose
@Scout211: I tried that, it was very laggy and annoying.
eclare
@Dorothy A. Winsor:
Got pretty hot in here last night. Thanks.
Baud
They keep missing. Ugh.
SpaceUnit
World Swimming Championships are also taking place now in Japan. Pool racing begins on Sunday.
They’ve held the open water events already. US’s Katie Grimes took the bronze in the 10K ( 6miles! ), finishing just 4.5 seconds behind the 1st place winner. She’s just 17 years old and improving at a shocking rate. I’m expecting her to take the gold next year at the Paris Olympics. She will also be heading up the US team in the 400 IM. That girl is a badass. The 200 IM is a blast once you’ve learned how to swim it but the 400 is like doing penance for all mankind’s sins.
Men’s team is without Caeleb Dressel and Michael Andrew but should still do pretty well. Connor Foster will have his hands full with Frenchman Leon Marchand in both IM’s. Ryan Murphy is in good form.
The women’s events are where the action is at this year. I’m hoping Raygun Smith will set a new world record in the 200 back. Expect to see fireworks in the 200 and 400 freestyle. Canada’s got a firecracker named Summer Macintosh setting world records all over the place. Australia’s Ariarne Titmus will have something to say as well.
It ought to be good. Okay go back to talking about soccer.
Baud
@Alison Rose:
If your local Fox station has an app or a website, you might try that.
Alison Rose
@HumboldtBlue: None of those work, every stream I click on makes me click on a still frame video that takes me to a site I have to log into.
It’s fine, people.
eclare
@SpaceUnit:
I saw something about Katie Ledecki recently, is she still competing?
citizen dave
We need more goals
SpaceUnit
@eclare:
Yes. I believe she’ll be swimming the 200, 400 and 800 and 1500 freestyle, although she might scratch the 200. She got beat out at Nationals in that event by Claire Weinstein. Didn’t look great.
She’ll likely pull some relay duty as well. But that 400 is gonna be a barnburner.
HumboldtBlue
Good pace to the game…
THAT COULD BE A PENALTY
It would be harsh, but that’s a penalty.
Harsh, but that’s the correct call.
Baud
Ok, this is ridiculous.
Baud
Damn.
Vietnam’s goalie is the star so far.
HumboldtBlue
@Baud:
It was the right call.
Great save!
What a weakly taken penalty
I think there’s been a penalty called in every game so far, and that’s at least the second miss.
Nice nutmeg!
OFFSIDE!That was rather anticlimactic, but it’s a goal.
eclare
Wut?????
Baud
Ugh.
Baud
Wow.
Scout211
Oh my.
VAR for the goal.
eclare
Wow
eclare
@HumboldtBlue:
Hella nutmeg
Baud
Honestly, we seemed a little sluggish in the first half.
citizen dave
As a 5 year fan of this team, and no hockey fan at all, the one thing both sports could do to dramatically improve their sport is get rid of the offsides rule. It is so incredibly stupid. Basketball doesn’t have it. Your man leaks out, play defense
Rant over.
MobiusKlein
Feeling the US will not have it so easy on the other opponents
HumboldtBlue
There were five penalties called in the first five games with three misses, and the US makes it six games and four misses.
That’s extraordinary.
@citizen dave:
That’s a really bad take and you should feel bad.
Baud
@HumboldtBlue:
Southern Hemisphere. Balls rotating in weird directions.
MobiusKlein
@Baud:
Coriolis effect ? Nope, flat earth for the win.
eclare
@Baud:
Hahaha….
Yarrow
My neighbors are at the game!
Jackie
@Scout211: Antenna should get local channels, including local Fox.
eclare
@Yarrow:
Wow. Staying for the whole thing?
Jackie
@Alison Rose: It’s on your local Fox non cable station if you have an antenna.
Central Planning
I’m watching the USA-Vietnam game on Peacock. Picked the first one that I saw – it’s all in Spanish and I know maybe 29 words. My wife has been doing duolingo and is catching maybe every 15th word :)
Yarrow
@eclare: I think they’re only there for a week. He’s a huge football fan and they do most of their vacations around football tournaments. She’s texting me pictures from the match! Their daughter plays and is a big fan of the USA Women. She’s old enough now to really appreciate going.
eclare
@Yarrow:
How fun!
Jackie
@Baud: I hate it when in their mind, they’re already focused on the next team. That’s how “favorite to win” lose.
Be humble and focus USA. Your 💩 stinks as badly as anyone else.
HumboldtBlue
@Central Planning:
Sounds like you need to join the John Cole Learning Spanish fun group!
eclare
Tran has serious ups
Alison Rose
Fox app is working better now, thankfully.
Central Planning
@HumboldtBlue: Si! I can’t make that commitment right now though :( and I feel I might end up better than my wife which would not be good
Scout211
@Alison Rose: Yay!
HumboldtBlue
@eclare:
Buddy just texted me that she’s the shortest keep he’s seen at this level, but she’s very tough. Vietnam have been dogged, the US beat Thailand 13-0 in the first match four years ago.
Vietnam keeps this at two goals, that helps immensely in goal differential. Of course, they’re gonna have to find a way to score, so…
@Alison Rose:
Welcome to the party, pal!
Alison Rose
And here comes my soccer wife 😍
Alison Rose
OH GREAT. So the Fox app only lets you watch part of the match if you don’t sign in with a cable provider, and it just cut me off. What the fuck is that bullshit?
eclare
@HumboldtBlue:
I remember that four years ago. Yep, Vietnam will be tough if they get an offense. And with that GK….
HumboldtBlue
In other soccer news, Lionel Messi played his first game for Miami tonight and scored a patented Messi free kick that had David Beckham in tears.
Yarrow
@Alison Rose: Oh, yeah. They only give you a ten minute preview. Sucks. I read that they’ll replay the matches on Tubi right after the match, so I guess that’s an option.
The team seems sort of sluggish or something.
Alison Rose
@HumboldtBlue: Lordy. That was lovely. GOAT.
Alison Rose
Okay, I totally forgot I had a Peacock subscription and my friend told me I could watch there in Spanish, which is fine with me because most sports announcers annoy me, so if I can’t understand them, it’s much more pleasant.
citizen dave
@HumboldtBlue: I’m standing by my No Offsides position. The rule adds absolutely nothing to hockey or football. Let the players go wherever the hell they want to. (I will admit I don’t know the history of the rule, why it exists, etc. Only if I were designing these sports, I would not have it)
Educating myself ”
First introduced in 1883 when the Football Association (FA), for the first time, formalised football rules, the offside was constructed to deter players from always lurking near the opposition goal to look for scoring opportunities.
Without the offside rule, long balls could be kicked directly towards team-mates placed in the opposition goal area and would prove to be too effective, thereby reducing the element of skill and strategy in football games.”
I totally disagree with this. It’s up to the defense to cover the offense. It’s not an issue for basketball.
eclare
@Alison Rose:
Yay!
Alison Rose
Woot woot!
Goal calls in Spanish >>>>>>>>>>>>
HumboldtBlue
@citizen dave:
Which is why we are glad you stick to what you do know, being a good citizen.
Three nil should settle things. Comfortable win, no injuries, well done Vietnam. They put in a lot of work and made the US work for it.
Yarrow
@Alison Rose: Definitely more fun!
Martin
@HumboldtBlue: It’ll be interesting to see just how much Apple giving Messi a cut pays off for US soccer.
HumboldtBlue
@Martin:
Nothing is gonna change until they change the ownership model. I follow and watch the Philly Union, but I can’t take MLS all that seriously until they stop playing on turf and play on grass.
MLS is fun to watch, but the quality is still far below Europe.
Alison Rose
Dang crossbar!
Alison Rose
9 minutes, jeezy creezy
billcinsd
@citizen dave: If you want a game of Iowa girls basketball played by big stiff guys, your rules would be fine. Not even basketball wants Iowa girls basketball.
One reason basketball doesn’t have a problem is that the court is 93 feet long. The soccer field is more like 330 feet long. Thus it takes 7 or 8 more seconds for a player to get from one end of the field to the other making playing offense and defense mush easier in basketball than in soccer.
HumboldtBlue
@Alison Rose:
FIFA changed how they measure extra time at the men’s world cup and it more closely reflects how much time should be added.
Nine, 10 even 12 minutes occur regularly now.
Alison Rose
@HumboldtBlue: I know, it just annoys me every time.
Alison Rose
Well, they didn’t look their absolute best, but 3 points and a clean sheet!
HumboldtBlue
@Alison Rose:
I don’t mind it at all. It was changed to offset the most egregious time wasters and it more accurately reflects what happened on the pitch, People wanna see the ball in play and this helps accomplish that.
billcinsd
@HumboldtBlue: Well, they only did this at the Men’s World Cup. More normal stoppage time occurred in the Pro Leagues I watched, and at the U-20 World Cup, IIRC
Jackie
Good win for 🇺🇸!!!
Hopefully they focus on the game of the moment and don’t look ahead from this point on.
HumboldtBlue
@eclare:
Hell, I missed you went dark, great timing to watch the US women!
Trollhattan
Tonight the Portland Thorns* score 7 in two hemispheres.
*Lindsey Horan will never not be a Thorn.
You’re welcome, America.
HumboldtBlue
Zambia v Japan.
We’re gonna see if the Japanese have found their mojo and the Copper Queens are making their debut.
Zambia’s captain is Barbra Banda who has been in the headlines because of gender issues.
eclare
So is Japan vs Zambia going to be a blowout?
HumboldtBlue
Zambia was Northern Rhodesia when I was growing up.
@eclare
Japan are certainly heavy favorites and should win this match. By how much is the question.
Kate Scott is the play by play voice, the same role she plays for the 76ers. She’s a Fresno native and built her career in the Bay Area. She’s an up and comer.
Japan forces a great save and the hits the post!
eclare
@HumboldtBlue:
Got a few years on me.
eclare
@HumboldtBlue:
Thanks! Now that I have power and my big TV back, I’ll watch more.
HumboldtBlue
@eclare:
Actually, it was Northern Rhodesia until 1964, and I wasn’t here yet, so I didn’t grow up with that.
HumboldtBlue
Wow, Japan winger broke the defender’s ankles.
eclare
Zambian GK looks nervous. I would be too.
HumboldtBlue
The Copper Queens are holding out.
Lovely ball from Japan, who have the possession and the dangerous chances, but who look vulnerable to the counter and that Zambia speed.
Japan is gonna get a goal.
GREAT SAVE!
eclare
@HumboldtBlue:
Japan just not capitalizing.
Oh no!
Hope she’s 100
Damn
HumboldtBlue
That was absolutely clinical execution by Japan.
Beautiful goal. It took four touches before the ball is in the back of the net.
eclare
@HumboldtBlue:
True. Just rooting for Zambia.
HumboldtBlue
@eclare:
Zambia are one of the debutantes who are up against it. If they stay close and maybe get a quick long ball counter, they could make it interesting.
That’ll do it. And I will say Kate Scott’s call was pretty terrible. She is not in voice.
Ohhhh nooooo
That’s gonna be offside.
Goooooaaaalllll, that was lovely! What a through ball!
Japan’s technical ability has shown up. Quick feet and passing.
eclare
@HumboldtBlue:
Just got harder.
Wait, wut?
Wow.
eclare
@HumboldtBlue:
No D
eclare
Ouch!
HumboldtBlue
Yeah, that’s done and dusted.
eclare
Perfect goal
HumboldtBlue
Great save,
Another beautiful pass for the through ball.
Japan showing out.
eclare
Whoa. But deserved.
Wow!
HumboldtBlue
England v Haiti.
A tough ask for Haiti.
eclare
Another save!
Another retake…
HumboldtBlue
WOW, penalty re-take for England.
And a goal.
PAM Dirac
Not exactly the most scintillating half for Denmark-China. Neither side had enough vision or precision to be very threatening. I was a bit surprised to hear that Denmark hasn’t made it to the finals since 2007, but they played like no one has any finals experience. China looked a bit better overall, but Denmark showed a bit of life near the end of the half. Who knows what will happen in the second half.
cmorenc
@citizen dave:
I’ll bet you are one of those folks who think soccer would be much more exciting if goals were much easier to score and games had scores like 20-18 than 2-1. You want games like that, the NBA is for you, not the EPL or MLS.
The offside rule actually results in a far more, not less interesting game – a well-timed attacking run to beat defenders offside line, coupled with an accurate, well-timed through ball, is one of the most exciting, appealing aspects of the game to true soccer fans.
PAM Dirac
Denmark gets a goal at the death. Very nice delivery on a corner kick. Denmark were putting much better pressure in the last 10 minutes or so. They always looked more likely to score. China still has 5 or 6 minutes, but seems unlikely to get the equalizer.
HumboldtBlue
@PAM Dirac:
Wow, Denmark beat China. China has fallen well off the pace in the past 15 years or so.
@cmorenc:
Yeah, what cmorenc said!
HumboldtBlue
OK, Colombia v South Korea in the final match of the opening round and so far it’s a wide-open free-flowing game and South Korea has had two good chances.
Wow, Colombia player just kicked a Korean player in the head. Unintentional, of course, but that is surely a red not just a yellow?
HumboldtBlue
Colombia on the attack and they force a hand ball against Korea. Yet another penalty kick.
and Colombia scores! 1-0
HumboldtBlue
More Colombian pressure leads to the second goal and the goalie has got to be better than that.
HumboldtBlue
South Korea is in trouble, trailing 2-0 at half, and they have shown no ability to work around Colombia’s pressure.
HumboldtBlue
Colombia have talent, whether it’s enough to trouble France, US, Germany etc. remains to be seen.