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You are here: Home / Politics / GOP Death Cult / Dank Grey Dawn Open Thread: Monsters From the Id

Dank Grey Dawn Open Thread: Monsters From the Id

by Anne Laurie|  July 27, 20234:01 am| 50 Comments

This post is in: GOP Death Cult, Open Threads, Popular Culture

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Former US intelligence official David Grush alleges that the government is in possession of non-human bodies, UFOs: pic.twitter.com/zucNcCrnV3

— philip lewis (@Phil_Lewis_) July 26, 2023

*I* want to believe, among other things, that Nancy Mace — who is neither stupid nor a true believer — is ruefully considering the life choices that led to her publicly quizzing a McCarthy-style ‘whistleblower’ about ‘biologics’.

He won't.

— ??THEE Powerful Mel Ankoly ???? #ForThePeople (@Mel_Ankoly) July 26, 2023

yeah…we know… https://t.co/wqvE68gxgy pic.twitter.com/LVlyv4b2TR

— Senate Majority PAC (@MajorityPAC) July 26, 2023

Speaking of little grey horrors…

The whole prestige media loves Milkshake Nazi, the young up and coming conservative wunderkind ah we regret to inform you Milkshake Nazi is a Nazi.

— Now on Threads! (@agraybee) July 26, 2023



Nate Hochman — Milkshake Duck. Ron DeSaster’s *former* social-media director:

where did he find it, then https://t.co/ZqQAynBgnr

— post malone ergo propter malone (@PropterMalone) July 26, 2023

what she means by “Nate Hochman is obviously not a Nazi” is “Nate Hochman is a Jew so he can’t be in the club but he has been useful to us in spite of his heritage” https://t.co/KrktkB9gTX

— post malone ergo propter malone (@PropterMalone) July 26, 2023

It's not a "cautionary tale." They're Nazis. They want us to know they're Nazis.

It doesn't matter if they lose a gig here or there. They expect down the road to take over regardless of voter intent, and then reap all the rewards. https://t.co/g9gZoO9WnE

— Roy Edroso (@edroso) July 26, 2023

On the other hand, National Review has to flip the “Days since one of ours got caught being a Nazi or White Nationalist” sign back to zero.

— Clean Observer (@Hammbear2024) July 26, 2023

young Republicans are all on Nazi group chats with each other and they're screenshotting everything to use as revenge material in case they ever feud

these stories will be endless https://t.co/DnXvNJKbkT

— Michael Caley (@MC_of_A) July 26, 2023

https://t.co/KTOzcQC8BA pic.twitter.com/hfrPprGEJj

— your himbo boyfriend (@swolecialism) July 26, 2023

I wonder what @nytimes now thinks about publishing Nate Hochman's long op-ed about the "pervasive" agreement with right-wing culture warriors forced into it by the left (screenshots 1&2) and making him a main source for a news feature (3&4).
Still proud that they did, I'd guess. pic.twitter.com/3B0O9mJwY8

— Nicholas Grossman (@NGrossman81) July 26, 2023

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  1. 1.

    sdhays

    July 27, 2023 at 4:16 am

    That Xeet with Senator Batboy gave me a chuckle. But, seriously, we have entire industries dealing with “non-human bodies”. They didn’t come from other planets.

    With nuts like these it’s amazing our “intelligence” agencies manage to get anything right.

  2. 2.

    Amir Khalid

    July 27, 2023 at 4:22 am

    Where have you gone, Fox Mulder? A nation turns its lonely eyes to you, woo woo woo …

    I can’t say I’m all that surprised at the young Republicans embracing Nazism. Can anyone say that, really?

  3. 3.

    p.a.

    July 27, 2023 at 4:36 am

    We have to stop calling Nazis members of the far right.  Lose the ‘far’.

  4. 4.

    Pete Downunder

    July 27, 2023 at 4:44 am

    If you don’t believe in space aliens, how do you account for George Santos?

  5. 5.

    NotMax

    July 27, 2023 at 4:50 am

    Obligatory?
    //

  6. 6.

    The Thin Black Duke

    July 27, 2023 at 4:58 am

    Nazis gonna Nazi. There are the Nazis who do evil shit and there are the Nazis who pretend not to see the evil shit that their fellow Nazis are doing, proving conclusively that there is no such thing as ‘good’ Germans, only criminals who enable each other and somehow always get away with the evil that they do.

  7. 7.

    Brachiator

    July 27, 2023 at 4:58 am

    @sdhays:

    With nuts like these it’s amazing our “intelligence” agencies manage to get anything right.

    I remember when these dopes were “investigating” the use of psychic powers, ESP and telekinesis.

  8. 8.

    David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch

    July 27, 2023 at 5:03 am

     government is in possession of non-human bodies

    President Obama admitted this via coded language (clips)

  9. 9.

    Baud

    July 27, 2023 at 5:03 am

    Wake me up when nazis have 1/100th of the power of a woke gaggle of undergrads in America

    Did anyone wake him up?

  10. 10.

    Baud

    July 27, 2023 at 5:04 am

    There’s a non-human body that sleeps with me in my bed every night.

  11. 11.

    NotMax

    July 27, 2023 at 5:05 am

    @Brachiator

    Ah, so you’re one of those immune to the long range memory wipe.

    Your file has been so updated.

  12. 12.

    Betty Cracker

    July 27, 2023 at 5:05 am

    If the House committee wants to produce riveting content, they should invite random citizens to testify about their alien encounters. Maybe Kate McKinnon would show up.

  13. 13.

    topclimber

    July 27, 2023 at 5:07 am

    @Baud: Looks like Inez Stepman needs to be woked to the likes of Stephen Miller.

  14. 14.

    NotMax

    July 27, 2023 at 5:13 am

    Too good to not go there once more.
    :)

  15. 15.

    Lacuna Synecdoche

    July 27, 2023 at 5:31 am

    Nicholas Grossman via Anne Laurie @ Top:

    I wonder what @nytimes now thinks about publishing Nate Hochman’s long op-ed about the “pervasive” agreement with right-wing culture warriors forced into it by the left (screenshots 1&2) and making him a main source for a news feature (3&4). Still proud that they did, I’d guess.

    I really hope someone at NYT is asking Dean Bacquet, “How did we not know this guy is a NAZI?”

  16. 16.

    Baud

    July 27, 2023 at 5:41 am

    @Lacuna Synecdoche:

    “All of our best investigative reporters are covering Biden’s age.”

  17. 17.

    NotMax

    July 27, 2023 at 5:51 am

    @Baud

    Yet not a peep at the time about Bernie’s.

  18. 18.

    Princess

    July 27, 2023 at 6:24 am

    Hochman is absolutely typical (well-heeled, well-educated ordinary Republican completely comfortable and embedded in fascist racist anti-Semitic circles) of what I see at the uni where I used to teach. They have allies (just a few but untouchable) among the faculty.

  19. 19.

    prostratedragon

    July 27, 2023 at 6:25 am

    “The Devil’s Beauties”

  20. 20.

    Anyway

    July 27, 2023 at 6:31 am

    @p.a.:

    We have to stop calling Nazis members of the far right.  Lose the ‘far’.

    Yep. And lose the “MAGA”. They’re Rethugs, plain and simple. I hate Pres Biden and Jeffries using “MagaRepublicans” – why?!

  21. 21.

    Kay

    July 27, 2023 at 6:32 am

    @InezFeltscher
    Nate Hochman is obviously not a Nazi, let’s get that out of the way. But Nate aside, I’m not going to participate in any of these stupid pearl-clutching 2 mins hate moments on the right. Wake me up when nazis have 1/100th of the power of a woke gaggle of undergrads in America.

    That’s basically the editorial position of the NYTimes. They missed the fascist threat because they were battling the Oberlin student council.
    Ninnies.

  22. 22.

    Baud

    July 27, 2023 at 6:35 am

    @NotMax:

    Today, the NYT only cares about undermining support for Biden. But every online discussion of how old Congress is always ignores the usual suspects.

  23. 23.

    mrmoshpotato

    July 27, 2023 at 6:38 am

    young Republicans are all on Nazi group chats with each other and they’re screenshotting everything to use as revenge material in case they ever feud

    Haha! Let them all fuck up each other!

  24. 24.

    mrmoshpotato

    July 27, 2023 at 6:44 am

    @Anyway:

    And lose the “MAGA”. They’re Rethugs, plain and simple. I hate Pres Biden and Jeffries using “MagaRepublicans” – why?! 

    Yup.  Hey Joe.  The entire god-damned Rethuglican party is Nazi trash.

  25. 25.

    Chief Oshkosh

    July 27, 2023 at 6:44 am

    @Baud: Inez apparently is one of those people too stupid to understand that, based solely on their name, they will be killed by these people.

  26. 26.

    Anne Laurie

    July 27, 2023 at 6:49 am

    @Anyway: I hate Pres Biden and Jeffries using “MagaRepublicans” – why?!

    Because they’re elected politicians who have to be nice in front of the normies and the ‘independents’ who are secretly rethinking their consistent support of the Republican party.

    We don’t hate everyone who ever voted GOP!  Just the unhinged fascists and crazy people among them! Vote Dem, this November, as the ‘smart’ alternative!

  27. 27.

    Baud

    July 27, 2023 at 6:55 am

    @Anne Laurie:

    Correct.  Our people want to believe that the Republicans in their social circles are still decent people, and it’s those other Republicans who are nuts.

  28. 28.

    Soprano2

    July 27, 2023 at 7:00 am

    @Kay: I did a double take when I saw that. Conservatives have an outsized idea of how much power college students have, I think because they believe it should be “none”. I guess I shouldn’t be surprised that they totally missed how many Republicans are openly fascist now. And of course, a Jewish person can have fascist beliefs. Using Nazi as shorthand for fascist isn’t great. There were fascists in Italy and Spain who were in power, too. I think of Stephen Miller as the Gaius Balthasar (sp?) of the Republican Party – he thinks he’s one of them because he’s a Jew who helps them, so he’ll be spared. He’s not the only one.

  29. 29.

    Kathleen

    July 27, 2023 at 7:07 am

    @Baud: OT and dead thread but I just saw the Fascist Enabling Quislings at the Today Show lead story was Hunter Biden. There are not enough words that can adequately express my hatred and loathing of the mainstream media. Henceforth as far as I’m concerned they’re all FEQ’s.

  30. 30.

    Soprano2

    July 27, 2023 at 7:08 am

    @Anyway: Because he’s trying to appeal to conservatives who aren’t fascists.

  31. 31.

    Kay

    July 27, 2023 at 7:15 am

    @Soprano2:

    Nate Hochman himself writes the same thing, in the screenshotted excerpt from his NYTimes tenure.

    I can always tell a conservative who grew up in and resides in a blue state/city and has little or no contact with actual rank and file Republicans by how they believe every public school in the United States is a hotbed of Marxist thought. Who do they think works in schools and serves on school boards in the vast swathes of the country that are Right wing? Right wingers. That’s why the schools lean Right.

    But if you grew up in DC or NY or LA and never left I guess you wouldn’t know that.

    His was probably the 500th editorial scolding young liberals the NYTimes has run in the past 5 years. They LOVE that subject. It is their very favorite thing.

  32. 32.

    Frank Wilhoit

    July 27, 2023 at 7:41 am

    @sdhays: ​
     Who says they do?

  33. 33.

    lowtechcyclist

    July 27, 2023 at 7:52 am

    @Anne Laurie:

    Because they’re elected politician who have to be nice in front of the normies and the ‘independents’ who are secretly rethinking their consistent support of the Republican party.

    Not to mention the media, which would go all-in against Biden if he made it sound like all Rethuglicans were evil.  (Yeah, I know how they are now, but they at least have to have some reserve about how they try to undermine him now.)

    You remember how they jumped on Hillary’s ‘deplorables’ comment, even though she had said that it didn’t apply to the majority of Republicans.  Biden made sure the distinction was right up front there in the label.

  34. 34.

    Matt McIrvin

    July 27, 2023 at 7:56 am

    @Soprano2: If you’re tossing around the Sonnenrad symbol you are literally a Nazi, not just a fascist. Or you’re trying to attract overt Nazis, and to my mind that’s being a Nazi–caution in labeling is working against us here.

    These people are being way too cute, trying to have it both ways–using overt neo-Nazi appeals and then claiming people are imagining things or that it was somehow ironic.

  35. 35.

    Geminid

    July 27, 2023 at 8:05 am

    @Anne Laurie: I think people are missing a point here: “MAGA” is being used to stigmatize, not distinguish. Biden and Jeffries are painting their political opposition with the broad “MAGA” brush, not being lenient towards some Republicans.

  36. 36.

    marklar

    July 27, 2023 at 8:19 am

    Never really heard of the guy….Just googled his being lauded in the media.

    Saw a link for a Washington Post article titled “A fine essay by Nate Hochman in the New York Times makes a compelling argument and should not be missed.”

    The kicker? Written by Spew Spewitt….surprise surprise.

  37. 37.

    Meyerman

    July 27, 2023 at 8:25 am

    My two sons, 19 and 20, watched the sonnenrad video. Their immediate take was that it was produced as satire and could not have been produced by someone who actually supported DeSantis because the Nazi imagery was too obvious. Of course, they have grown up in Massachusetts, so they don’t come across that many young right wingers.

  38. 38.

    Soprano2

    July 27, 2023 at 8:28 am

    @Matt McIrvin: It can be both, that there are people who are actual Nazis and those who are fascist sympathizers. You don’t have to be a Nazi to be a fascist.

  39. 39.

    AnonPhenom

    July 27, 2023 at 8:47 am

    @Anyway:

    “Why?”

    …it’s the off ramp. The vain hope that there still exist in these people the concept of *shame* and that at some point they’ll stop supporting fascists.

    “I’m not a far-right fascist, I’m just that Burkean conservative David Brooks is always writing about”

  40. 40.

    Lacuna Synecdoche

    July 27, 2023 at 9:00 am

    Kathleen @ 29:

    OT and dead thread but I just saw the Fascist Enabling Quislings at the Today Show lead story was Hunter Biden. … Henceforth as far as I’m concerned they’re all FEQ’s.

    Or, maybe: FEQers?

  41. 41.

    trnc

    July 27, 2023 at 9:09 am

    @Anne Laurie:

    @Anyway: I hate Pres Biden and Jeffries using “MagaRepublicans” – why?!

     

    Because they’re elected politician who have to be nice in front of the normies and the ‘independents’ who are secretly rethinking their consistent support of the Republican party.

    We don’t hate everyone who ever voted GOP!  Just the unhinged fascists and crazy people among them! Vote Dem, this November, as the ‘smart’ alternative!

    It’s also for the benefit of independents who sometimes vote for republicans. We need their votes enough that we still have to pretend they’re very serious people rather than feckless weathervanes.

  42. 42.

    Omnes Omnibus

    July 27, 2023 at 9:17 am

    @trnc: To riff off Adlai Stevenson, “we need a majority.”

  43. 43.

    Geminid

    July 27, 2023 at 9:20 am

     

     

    @AnonPhenom: Biden and Jeffries are telling non-MAGA elected Republican officials that when they stand in the way of progress that they will be called “MAGA Republicans” whether they like it or not.

    Mitch McConnell is one of many Republican Senators who despise Trump. Reps. Dan Newhouse (WA) and David Valadeo (CA) voted to impeach the guy. But as long as they block Biden’s agenda, or vote for radical House bills, they will be painted with the same “MAGA Republican” brush as their colleagues.

    I think people are overthinking this messaging question. There is a kind of hyper-tribalism here that I also see applied to the “bipartisanship” messaging question.

  44. 44.

    Yutsano

    July 27, 2023 at 9:48 am

    @Geminid: ​Dan Newhouse is a quisling who will follow party leadership wherever it goes. I still have no idea where the impeachment vote came from other than he knew it wouldn’t cost him in the next election. And he was right. Don’t expect any independence from him. He just hides his MAGA side for the cameras.

  45. 45.

    Barry

    July 27, 2023 at 9:59 am

    @Lacuna Synecdoche: “I really hope someone at NYT is asking Dean Bacquet, “How did we not know this guy is a NAZI?””

     

    Remember, the NYT has been caught several times deliberately interviewing  known GOP party activists and presenting them as ordinary people.

    This is just the next step.

  46. 46.

    Roger Moore

    July 27, 2023 at 10:27 am

    Why Do All These Homosexuals Nazis Keep Sucking Joining My Cock Political Party?

  47. 47.

    rk

    July 27, 2023 at 10:34 am

    Does anyone have a link from a knowledgeable trustworthy source about what this UFO business all about and if any of this is true? I’m too busy and exhausted from work to listen to the hearings or even read through and sort out all the stuff being written about it.  I’d like to have a clear picture of what is going on. Thanks in advance.

  48. 48.

    Geminid

    July 27, 2023 at 1:55 pm

    @Yutsano: I don’t expect any independence from Newhouse. All the more reason to tar him with the “MAGA Republican” brush, even though he voted to impeach. Same with Valdeo. Calling out MAGA Republicans does not validate the others, it implicates them.

  49. 49.

    Geminid

    July 27, 2023 at 2:05 pm

    @Yutsano: I think Newhouse might have run some risk with his impeachment vote. There was no telling how fierce the backlash would be. It knocked out Jaime Herera Butler to the west of him.

    But the difference there might be that Newhouse was a man and Butler a woman.

  50. 50.

    Sloegin

    July 27, 2023 at 3:23 pm

    @Kay: To be fair, they missed the threat the first time around also.

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