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FIFA Women’s World Cup – Group 2 of 3

by WaterGirl|  July 26, 20238:30 pm| 70 Comments

This post is in: FIFA Women's World Cup 2023, Open Threads, Sports

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Originally published Jul 13, 2023 at 13:35

Update:  Big game tonight!

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  1. 1.

    HumboldtBlue

    July 24, 2023 at 4:42 am

    Morocco is in trouble… there is the goal for the Germans

  2. 2.

    David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch

    July 24, 2023 at 5:16 am

    Popp! Popp! Popp!

  3. 3.

    HumboldtBlue

    July 25, 2023 at 1:26 am

    New Zealand v Panama. If the Ferns win, they’ll make more history and advance to the second round. Panama just needs to show they belong.

    The New Zealand national anthem has a lot of echoes of Men of Harlech.

  4. 4.

    HumboldtBlue

    July 25, 2023 at 2:08 am

    Philippines did what they tried in the first game — come out fast and snag a goal — except this time it worked.

    1-0

  5. 5.

    HumboldtBlue

    July 25, 2023 at 2:17 am

    Philippines with another good chance on goal.

  6. 6.

    HumboldtBlue

    July 25, 2023 at 3:58 am

    The Holey Cheeses v Norway.

    If it looks anything like their first games, Norway is in trouble.

    Wet, cold, and windy.

  7. 7.

    HumboldtBlue

    July 26, 2023 at 1:31 am

    Japan ends this match quickly.

  8. 8.

    Ha Nguyen

    July 26, 2023 at 7:31 pm

    I don’t get the offsides rule for this World Cup.  I could have sworn I saw a Spanish player go offsides before she passed the ball to the goal scorer.  At first, the offsides penalty negated the goal and then there was a review and the referee reversed the goal negation so that Spain got the point.  Don’t offsides count any more?

  9. 9.

    MobiusKlein

    July 26, 2023 at 8:38 pm

    Are the times wrong on the sheet? I think it does not account for Daylight Savings. I got confused on a few events where the game didn’t show up when I looked

  10. 10.

    Baud

    July 26, 2023 at 8:48 pm

    Go USA 🇺🇲⚽🇺🇲⚽🇺🇲⚽

  11. 11.

    HumboldtBlue

    July 26, 2023 at 8:55 pm

    @Ha Nguyen: ​

    Offside still counts, and I am unsure of the goal you are referring to. It may have been that both Spain players were behind the defense when the final pass was made, therefore there is no offside.

    @MobiusKlein:

    I’ve noticed that too, it appears the times listed are an hour off, not sure why.

    OK, let’s go, ladies! Send the Fainting Tulips back to their windmills and awesome bicycle infrastructure with tears in their eyes.

  12. 12.

    WaterGirl

    July 26, 2023 at 8:59 pm

    @MobiusKlein: I googled what time the match was in Eastern time and it said 9 pm.  But who knows?

  13. 13.

    Baud

    July 26, 2023 at 9:01 pm

    @WaterGirl:

    9 pm Eastern is correct. Just started.

    ETA: I see the chart says 8 pm.

  14. 14.

    HumboldtBlue

    July 26, 2023 at 9:02 pm

    @WaterGirl:

    You didn’t get my email?

  15. 15.

    HumboldtBlue

    July 26, 2023 at 9:08 pm

    That Netherlands defense is gonna be under pressure all match.

  16. 16.

    WaterGirl

    July 26, 2023 at 9:09 pm

    @HumboldtBlue: I just looked after seeing your comment. :-)

    I’m away on a trip, but I had to work today because of a client deadline – so I worked 10 hours today!  I didn’t even check my email.

  17. 17.

    Baud

    July 26, 2023 at 9:17 pm

    Dammit.

  18. 18.

    steppy

    July 26, 2023 at 9:17 pm

    @HumboldtBlue: But then comes the counter attack. OUCH!!

  19. 19.

    HumboldtBlue

    July 26, 2023 at 9:17 pm

    Uh-oh, Dutch baby! Against the run of play and the Dutch counter quickly

    That’s terrible defending by the US. Terrible.

  20. 20.

    steppy

    July 26, 2023 at 9:18 pm

    @HumboldtBlue: The USA were scrambly the entire way back, never set their line.

  21. 21.

    HumboldtBlue

    July 26, 2023 at 9:19 pm

    @WaterGirl:

    No sweat, you’re on top of it anyway, as always.

  22. 22.

    HumboldtBlue

    July 26, 2023 at 9:19 pm

    @steppy:

    Maartens may be the best player on the pitch. She bosses that midfield.

  23. 23.

    MobiusKlein

    July 26, 2023 at 9:22 pm

    Seems a physical game – puling on ponytail seems a bit below the belt.

  24. 24.

    Ishiyama

    July 26, 2023 at 9:22 pm

    @HumboldtBlue: Naturally, I am pulling for Nadeshiko Japan to win all the marbles.

  25. 25.

    HumboldtBlue

    July 26, 2023 at 9:24 pm

    @MobiusKlein:

    The whole tournament has been very physical. Dark arts are in effect all across the pitch.

    @Ishiyama:

    The Japanese have looked fantastic. They were so clinical yesterday, had that match buttoned up within 30 minutes.

  26. 26.

    steppy

    July 26, 2023 at 9:26 pm

    Brugts (22 on the left wing) has been going in for the rough stuff. I think she should have had a yellow by now.

  27. 27.

    HumboldtBlue

    July 26, 2023 at 9:29 pm

    That was almost 2-0. The Dutch are playing their game, controlling the ball, countering,

  28. 28.

    WaterGirl

    July 26, 2023 at 9:31 pm

    Seems like the US started weak in their game last week, too.  Let’s hope they can get it together tonight before it’s too late!

  29. 29.

    MobiusKlein

    July 26, 2023 at 9:33 pm

    Time to tie it up, yall.

  30. 30.

    Baud

    July 26, 2023 at 9:34 pm

    Our players are getting beat up.

  31. 31.

    MobiusKlein

    July 26, 2023 at 9:35 pm

    @Baud: I keep expecting a ref to pull a yellow card, but nothing.

  32. 32.

    HumboldtBlue

    July 26, 2023 at 9:38 pm

    If, and that’s a BIG IF, the Dutch win this game, it will be the first USA loss in the WC since losing the final to Japan in 2011.

    @Baud: @MobiusKlein:

    They are, the ref has swallowed her whistle and the Dutch are taking full advantage. There were at least two yellow-card worthy fouls this half.

  33. 33.

    steppy

    July 26, 2023 at 9:42 pm

    @HumboldtBlue: Yes. I can readily see USA equalizing. They have had better chances than NED, just got sloppy on that counter earlier. Referee better do something about this “close marking.”

  34. 34.

    MobiusKlein

    July 26, 2023 at 9:47 pm

    @HumboldtBlue:
    It is just odd how the ref is allowing so much. If I wanted WWF, I’d watch men’s soccer.

  35. 35.

    lee

    July 26, 2023 at 9:47 pm

    As the commentators pointed out. The Netherlands has 11 WC level players. If they have to substitute they are in trouble.

  36. 36.

    HumboldtBlue

    July 26, 2023 at 10:05 pm

    Rose Lavelle’s coming on should help what was a rather moribund US team in the first half. Need her pace and passing.

  37. 37.

    HumboldtBlue

    July 26, 2023 at 10:17 pm

    Dutch are defending well.

  38. 38.

    HumboldtBlue

    July 26, 2023 at 10:23 pm

    Credit where credit is due, color commentator called the goal.

  39. 39.

    eclare

    July 26, 2023 at 10:23 pm

    @HumboldtBlue:

    Yep!

  40. 40.

    eversor

    July 26, 2023 at 10:27 pm

    Born in the US but a good portion of my family is in the NL and a lot of my family here was born there and moved to the US so these games are always good fun for family bickering.

    As for the Dutch being violent on the field (or in general), they always are, the women’s teams are no different.  They are also famously rude and foul mouthed.  Dutch people calling reporters stupid and hurling insults is such a thing that “The Rude Dutch” is a meme now as is playing soccer like ice hockey.  You can’t not know they are going to rough you up.

    They are a fun team though.

    Let’s go Orange!

  41. 41.

    HumboldtBlue

    July 26, 2023 at 10:27 pm

    Well offside.

    That’s terrible by Morgan, she has got to do better there and stay onside. Poorly done.

    US has found some steam, putting much more effective pressure on the Dutch and playing better in the midfield.

    Van Den Donk is a bit of a Van Den Dick.

    Dangerous chance from the Dutch!

    All US now.

    Geeeeeeeeeeeezzzzzzz… Great ball.

  42. 42.

    eclare

    July 26, 2023 at 10:46 pm

    @HumboldtBlue:

    Relentless.

  43. 43.

    Yarrow

    July 26, 2023 at 10:49 pm

    This US team seems good but not great. It seems like they’re missing that special something that previous teams had.

  44. 44.

    HumboldtBlue

    July 26, 2023 at 10:51 pm

    Great read by the goalie.

    @Yarrow:

    It seems like they’re missing that special something

    It does, they’re missing something, the final ball for one. Buildup is effective, finishing not so much.

  45. 45.

    eversor

    July 26, 2023 at 10:53 pm

    @Yarrow:

    It’s not the same US team and the Dutch are notoriously good and rough.  It’s a highlight match.

  46. 46.

    HumboldtBlue

    July 26, 2023 at 10:59 pm

    Terrible first half for the US, much better in the second, but that slow start has to be corrected.

  47. 47.

    Yarrow

    July 26, 2023 at 11:04 pm

    @HumboldtBlue:  LOL. Yeah

    @eversor:  I know it’s not the same team. It’s never the same team. But previous US teams seem to have that special sauce that makes them work really well together. This team seems more scattered and less team-like. At least that’s how they look to me.

    I know the Dutch are good. I felt the same way watching them against Vietnam. They just don’t have the same magic.

  48. 48.

    Alison Rose

    July 26, 2023 at 11:06 pm

    We better find a way to kick the shit out of Portugal.

  49. 49.

    eversor

    July 26, 2023 at 11:18 pm

    @Yarrow:

    Vietnam should have been total US domination (and I’m aware that sounds odd given our history with them!) but the Dutch were always going to be brutal.  They are along a youngish team.

    As the saying goes iron sharpens iron.  These are both teams that are really physical and can go on offense in a flash.  It’s arguably the best honing match so far.

    Still going with the orange NED.  But it’s a good game.  Even with the Dutch love of begging for yellow cards.

  50. 50.

    HumboldtBlue

    July 26, 2023 at 11:25 pm

    Here’s a thread on how much the US players will earn through each stage of the tournament (and it’s FAR more than their opponents from other nations).

  51. 51.

    pacem appellant

    July 26, 2023 at 11:59 pm

    Second half was so much better! I thought we were lost in the first half. Whew!

  52. 52.

    Mike E

    July 27, 2023 at 12:10 am

    @HumboldtBlue: Miss E and I were watching and immediately thought Alex was offsides…had she been level the entry pass would have been a bit far in advance and probably cleared by the goalie. Really good effort in the 2nd half

  53. 53.

    trollhattan

    July 27, 2023 at 1:53 am

    All US goals through two matches from Portland Thorns players. Hey rest of the league, giddyup! There’s a lot of soccering left.

  54. 54.

    Amir Khalid

    July 27, 2023 at 3:07 am

    I’ve seen YouTube videos by American sportsfan bros condemning the USA women’s team for arrogance, for kneeling for the national anthem instead of standing, etc. etc., for a generally unpatriotic attitude. Is this a widespread sentiment among American fans, or is YouTube’s homepage algorithm just messing with me?

  55. 55.

    HumboldtBlue

    July 27, 2023 at 3:14 am

    @Amir Khalid:

    for a generally unpatriotic attitude. Is this a widespread sentiment among American fans

    No. Quality of play is another matter.

  56. 56.

    Pete Downunder

    July 27, 2023 at 3:17 am

    Big excitement in Brisbane tonight. Australia’s Matildas play Nigeria in sold out stadium. They are missing three key players including superstar Sam Kerr – all three out with injuries sustained in training. I know absolutely zip about soccer, but WTF training so hard just before big match that players are injured? The most recent two with concussions. How do you get a concussion in soccer? Australia is rapt for the moment, but will lose interest entirely once the Maltidas are eliminated.

  57. 57.

    HumboldtBlue

    July 27, 2023 at 3:39 am

    Portugal quick out the box.

  58. 58.

    David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch

    July 27, 2023 at 3:45 am

    The Dutch are such lovely people and the country is wonderful (sans rain).

    That said, the women futbolers are assassins. Jackie Groenen has a gold medal in judo. When playing for Manchester United she would literally cut down opponents with judo chops to their backs. She constantly works the refs and flops when she’s touched.

  59. 59.

    HumboldtBlue

    July 27, 2023 at 3:49 am

    That’s a solid hip-check.

    Portugal running rampant early on.

    That is some lovely footwork.

    Oh my goodness, Portugal with another lovely turn of play. We’re not a half hour in and Portugal came to dance.

    This is impressive, Portugal is in control.

  60. 60.

    David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch

    July 27, 2023 at 3:51 am

    @Amir Khalid:  They’re popular.  They do a lot of commercials (selling cars, smart phones, fast food, insurance).  but there’s always going to be a segment that is sexist and jingoistic, which was heightened when Rapinoe said she wouldn’t go to the White House if Dump was there.​

  61. 61.

    HumboldtBlue

    July 27, 2023 at 4:10 am

    Portugal is showing off in the best way… they’re ready to pass and run.

  62. 62.

    Shalimar

    July 27, 2023 at 5:58 am

    @Amir Khalid: It’s a widespread view among the type of rightwing assholes who comment on YouTube.  You know the type.  Not numerous, but they tend to swarm at their targets.

    It is not that common among most Americans, who either don’t care about soccer or are proud of the American team.  They have been our most dominant professional sports team over the last 3 decades.

  63. 63.

    steppy

    July 27, 2023 at 7:14 am

    Just tuned into AUS-NGA. Anybody watching? Any thoughts about the teams or play so far?

  64. 64.

    JML

    July 27, 2023 at 8:14 am

    Nigeria beating Australia is the first big upset of the tournament. Tough with the injuries; there’s still only a few teams that have the depth to really over come multiple significant injuries without needing a big break. Nigeria is a good team, though.

    The US game was a tough one: the expectation for the US is always to win at all times, so a draw is a disappointment. But the Dutch are a quality team and didn’t come out of nowhere. They played a very cynical game out there: every time the US would start to make a rush on the counter, you’d see them pull the US player down from behind if they could to stop the attack. Was an absolute shocker that the Dutch didn’t pull a yellow, but this is something this US team needs to know is out there now: they might get into a rock fight where clutch and grab is going to be ignored and they have to find a way to deal with it.

    The real concern for the USWNT is whether or not they have the midfield to control a game in this Cup. It’s not the attackers up front that are the issue, and it’s not the back line either (although I am concerned with Crystal Dunn, who has looked wobbly cutting inside too often and leaving the flanks exposed). Lavelle made a huge difference when she came in; is she fit enough to start?

  65. 65.

    Mike E

    July 27, 2023 at 10:02 am

    @JML: Good takes…re: Dunn, she seemed in conflict with her in-between role which I believe messed with her timing in the attacking third but she made some choice deliveries despite it all. The tactic of going down center into the teeth of the Dutch defense was baffling, and the 2nd half play opened up for them when they went wide. The pitch was raggedy and caused a concerning number of non contact falls.

  66. 66.

    MobiusKlein

    July 27, 2023 at 10:20 am

    @Pete Downunder:

    How do you get a concussion in soccer?

    Headers. Jumping for the ball. Falling badly. Bonking the goal with your head. Getting kicked while corralling the ball.

    My daughter had two from soccer, as a goalie.

  67. 67.

    Alison Rose

    July 27, 2023 at 10:54 am

    @MobiusKlein: I’ll never forget the moment when a USMNT player (I’m 98% certain it was Jimmy Conrad) went up for a header and clocked his skull against the other guy’s shoulder or something and went down like a ton of bricks. When they tried to help him sit up, his head was lolling around and his eyes were unfocused. It was scary as shit to see. Had a concussion from it but thankfully was otherwise okay later.

  68. 68.

    jame

    July 27, 2023 at 9:18 pm

    @JML, agreed. US team wasn’t cohesive, and that left side was wide open way too many times in the first half, Dutch players unmarked, long passes to no one, and way too many missed passes. They snapped to a bit in the second half after Horan’s goal, but overall seemed not to be playing at World Cup level. There’s a lot of talent on the field, but not working together seamlessly.

  69. 69.

    Mike E

    July 29, 2023 at 6:19 am

    Anybody up? Wow what a beautiful goal!

  70. 70.

    Mike E

    July 29, 2023 at 7:40 am

    Best match of the tourney so far, an elimination game in intensity

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